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__ Smokers should pay a deposit on their butts, a B.C. group says <= or have to EAT them! __
B.C. group wants smokers to pay deposit on their butts
By Ethan Baron, The Province
Published: Wednesday, May 21, 2008
Smokers should pay a deposit on their butts, a B.C. group says.
Three men have launched a campaign to impose a 10-cent butt-return fee on
each cigarette.
"It's about the litter and the fire hazard, primarily," said log-home
builder Chris Jorgensen, 38, of
Langley.
Businesses that sell cigarettes should be responsible for collecting the
butts and returning the deposits, Jorgensen said.
He and his co-campaigners were spurred to action by watching drivers throw
butts out of car windows, and by picking them out of playground sandboxes.
The group plans to bring their plan to MLAs.
"Is it possible?" said Jorgensen. "Why not?"
Homeless people could make money while helping keep sidewalks, playgrounds,
roadsides and parks butt-free, he said.
But Recycling Council of B.C. spokeswoman Mairi Welman said the proposal has
flaws.
"It sounds like a real nice silver-bullet solution, but silver bullets
rarely work when it comes to the environment," Welman said.
Collecting and storing the chemical-laden butts could raise toxic-waste
issues, she said.
It might make more sense to impose an eco-fee on butts, similar to those on
tires and paint, putting responsibility for collection and return on users
and manufacturers, Welman said.
In 2001, Maine became the first state to attempt imposing a deposit on
cigarette butts. But legislators shot down the bill 107 to 29 out of fear
the five-cent deposit would drive buyers to neighbouring states.
B.C. group wants smokers to pay deposit on their butts
By Ethan Baron, The Province
Published: Wednesday, May 21, 2008
Smokers should pay a deposit on their butts, a B.C. group says.
Three men have launched a campaign to impose a 10-cent butt-return fee on
each cigarette.
"It's about the litter and the fire hazard, primarily," said log-home
builder Chris Jorgensen, 38, of
Langley.
Businesses that sell cigarettes should be responsible for collecting the
butts and returning the deposits, Jorgensen said.
He and his co-campaigners were spurred to action by watching drivers throw
butts out of car windows, and by picking them out of playground sandboxes.
The group plans to bring their plan to MLAs.
"Is it possible?" said Jorgensen. "Why not?"
Homeless people could make money while helping keep sidewalks, playgrounds,
roadsides and parks butt-free, he said.
But Recycling Council of B.C. spokeswoman Mairi Welman said the proposal has
flaws.
"It sounds like a real nice silver-bullet solution, but silver bullets
rarely work when it comes to the environment," Welman said.
Collecting and storing the chemical-laden butts could raise toxic-waste
issues, she said.
It might make more sense to impose an eco-fee on butts, similar to those on
tires and paint, putting responsibility for collection and return on users
and manufacturers, Welman said.
In 2001, Maine became the first state to attempt imposing a deposit on
cigarette butts. But legislators shot down the bill 107 to 29 out of fear
the five-cent deposit would drive buyers to neighbouring states.
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Date: 28 May 2008, 12:39
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Re: __ Smokers should pay a deposit on their butts, a B.C. group says <= or have to EAT them! __
On May 28, 5:04 am, "Reality Check©" <Real...@Check,it > wrote:
> Three men have launched a campaign to impose a 10-cent butt-return fee on
> each cigarette.
Just 3 assholes is all they could find,,,
what happened you sign up too late?
>
> It might make more sense to impose an eco-fee on butts, similar to those on
> tires and paint, putting responsibility for collection and return on users
> and manufacturers, Welman said.
>
> In 2001, Maine became the first state to attempt imposing a deposit on
> cigarette butts. But legislators shot down the bill 107 to 29 out of fear
> the five-cent deposit would drive buyers to neighbouring states.
Odds don't look to good...
But you can start picking butts any time you want to.
Better than your doing now--Huh...
On May 28, 5:04 am, "Reality Check©" <Real...@Check,it > wrote:
> Three men have launched a campaign to impose a 10-cent butt-return fee on
> each cigarette.
Just 3 assholes is all they could find,,,
what happened you sign up too late?
>
> It might make more sense to impose an eco-fee on butts, similar to those on
> tires and paint, putting responsibility for collection and return on users
> and manufacturers, Welman said.
>
> In 2001, Maine became the first state to attempt imposing a deposit on
> cigarette butts. But legislators shot down the bill 107 to 29 out of fear
> the five-cent deposit would drive buyers to neighbouring states.
Odds don't look to good...
But you can start picking butts any time you want to.
Better than your doing now--Huh...
Re: __ Smokers should pay a deposit on their butts, a B.C. group says <= or have to EAT them! __
On May 28, 2:04 am, "Reality Check©" <Real...@Check,it > wrote:
>
> Collecting and storing the chemical-laden butts could raise toxic-waste
> issues, she said.
>
Yep.
On May 28, 2:04 am, "Reality Check©" <Real...@Check,it > wrote:
>
> Collecting and storing the chemical-laden butts could raise toxic-waste
> issues, she said.
>
Yep.
Re: __ Smokers should pay a deposit on their butts, a B.C. group says <= or have to EAT them! __
"Reality_Check©" <Reality@Check,it > wrote in message
> "It's about the litter and the fire hazard, primarily," said log-home
> builder Chris Jorgensen, 38, of
>
> Langley.
>
> Businesses that sell cigarettes should be responsible for collecting the
> butts and returning the deposits, Jorgensen said.
>
> He and his co-campaigners were spurred to action by watching drivers throw
> butts out of car windows, and by picking them out of playground sandboxes.
>
> The group plans to bring their plan to MLAs.
>
> "Is it possible?" said Jorgensen. "Why not?"
>
> Homeless people could make money while helping keep sidewalks,
> playgrounds, roadsides and parks butt-free, he said.
>
> But Recycling Council of B.C. spokeswoman Mairi Welman said the proposal
> has flaws.
>
> "It sounds like a real nice silver-bullet solution, but silver bullets
> rarely work when it comes to the environment," Welman said.
>
> Collecting and storing the chemical-laden butts could raise toxic-waste
> issues, she said.
Like theres no toxic waste issue with leaving them where inconsiderate
smokers toss them?
>
> It might make more sense to impose an eco-fee on butts, similar to those
> on tires and paint, putting responsibility for collection and return on
> users and manufacturers, Welman said.
That won't get them picked up. The deposit is the way to go.
Only problem I foresee is counting all the butts. Maybe make the refund by
weight?
>
> In 2001, Maine became the first state to attempt imposing a deposit on
> cigarette butts. But legislators shot down the bill 107 to 29 out of fear
> the five-cent deposit would drive buyers to neighbouring states.
Same answer as bans, make it universal. Problem solved.
>
>
"Reality_Check©" <Reality@Check,it > wrote in message
> "It's about the litter and the fire hazard, primarily," said log-home
> builder Chris Jorgensen, 38, of
>
> Langley.
>
> Businesses that sell cigarettes should be responsible for collecting the
> butts and returning the deposits, Jorgensen said.
>
> He and his co-campaigners were spurred to action by watching drivers throw
> butts out of car windows, and by picking them out of playground sandboxes.
>
> The group plans to bring their plan to MLAs.
>
> "Is it possible?" said Jorgensen. "Why not?"
>
> Homeless people could make money while helping keep sidewalks,
> playgrounds, roadsides and parks butt-free, he said.
>
> But Recycling Council of B.C. spokeswoman Mairi Welman said the proposal
> has flaws.
>
> "It sounds like a real nice silver-bullet solution, but silver bullets
> rarely work when it comes to the environment," Welman said.
>
> Collecting and storing the chemical-laden butts could raise toxic-waste
> issues, she said.
Like theres no toxic waste issue with leaving them where inconsiderate
smokers toss them?
>
> It might make more sense to impose an eco-fee on butts, similar to those
> on tires and paint, putting responsibility for collection and return on
> users and manufacturers, Welman said.
That won't get them picked up. The deposit is the way to go.
Only problem I foresee is counting all the butts. Maybe make the refund by
weight?
>
> In 2001, Maine became the first state to attempt imposing a deposit on
> cigarette butts. But legislators shot down the bill 107 to 29 out of fear
> the five-cent deposit would drive buyers to neighbouring states.
Same answer as bans, make it universal. Problem solved.
>
>
Re: __ Smokers should pay a deposit on their butts, a B.C. group says <= or have to EAT them! __
On May 28, 1:26 pm, "NumbNorm" <Normgrunt...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> Same answer as bans, make it universal. Problem solved.
>
>
Would that also solve the problem of trolls or would you nut-cases
merely find another slope where you might purge your inner
frustrations neuroses? Silly asses.
The BIG N
On May 28, 1:26 pm, "NumbNorm" <Normgrunt...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> Same answer as bans, make it universal. Problem solved.
>
>
Would that also solve the problem of trolls or would you nut-cases
merely find another slope where you might purge your inner
frustrations neuroses? Silly asses.
The BIG N
Re: __ Smokers should pay a deposit on their butts, a B.C. group says <= or have to EAT them! __
On May 28, 4:03=EF=BF=BDpm, The BIG N <ni...@verizon,net > wrote:
> On May 28, 1:26=EF=BF=BDpm, "NumbNorm" <Normgrunt...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Same answer as bans, make it universal. Problem solved.
>
> Would that also solve the problem of trolls or would you nut-cases
> merely find another slope where you might purge your inner
> frustrations neuroses? Silly asses.
>
> The BIG N
When I went to the university, smokers would throw their butts on the
ground next to the butt can. This meant that custodians had to clean
up their mess. If the butt mess was left there for any length of
time, you would be 6 - 12 inched deep in butts. At this time, it
would be a considered hazzardous waste cause of all the poisons in the
butts. Just another part of the filthy habit.
On May 28, 4:03=EF=BF=BDpm, The BIG N <ni...@verizon,net > wrote:
> On May 28, 1:26=EF=BF=BDpm, "NumbNorm" <Normgrunt...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Same answer as bans, make it universal. Problem solved.
>
> Would that also solve the problem of trolls or would you nut-cases
> merely find another slope where you might purge your inner
> frustrations neuroses? Silly asses.
>
> The BIG N
When I went to the university, smokers would throw their butts on the
ground next to the butt can. This meant that custodians had to clean
up their mess. If the butt mess was left there for any length of
time, you would be 6 - 12 inched deep in butts. At this time, it
would be a considered hazzardous waste cause of all the poisons in the
butts. Just another part of the filthy habit.
Re: __ Smokers should pay a deposit on their butts, a B.C. group says <= or have to EAT them! __
a.enisz@gmail,com wrote in news:f8aa9498-149e-490a-858a-
996623804b2e@z24g2000prf.googlegroups,com :
> When I went to the university, smokers would throw their butts on the
> ground next to the butt can. This meant that custodians had to clean
> up their mess.
Newsflash: "Went to university" means that you enrolled and
attended classes, not that you were a custodian there.
B.
--
Cheerfully resisting change since 1959.
a.enisz@gmail,com wrote in news:f8aa9498-149e-490a-858a-
996623804b2e@z24g2000prf.googlegroups,com :
> When I went to the university, smokers would throw their butts on the
> ground next to the butt can. This meant that custodians had to clean
> up their mess.
Newsflash: "Went to university" means that you enrolled and
attended classes, not that you were a custodian there.
B.
--
Cheerfully resisting change since 1959.
Re: __ Smokers should pay a deposit on their butts, a B.C. group says <= or have to EAT them! __
On May 29, 8:32=EF=BF=BDam, Bart Goddard <goddar...@netscape,net > wrote:
> a.en...@gmail,com wrote in news:f8aa9498-149e-490a-858a-
> 996623804...@z24g2000prf.googlegroups,com :
>
> > When I went to the university, smokers would throw their butts on the
> > ground next to the butt can. =EF=BF=BDThis meant that custodians had to =
clean
> > up their mess. =EF=BF=BD
>
> Newsflash: =EF=BF=BD"Went to university" means that you enrolled and
> attended classes, not that you were a custodian there.
>
> B.
>
> --
> Cheerfully resisting change since 1959.
Geeee! That implies that the wind blew them away. Or they were
tracked away buy people stepping on them and sticking to the bottom of
their feet. Or maybe they were just ground into dust by people
walking on them. Or MAYBE a custodian who is paid with our tax money
has to go out with a dust pan and clean up the mess! No miracle.
somehow the butts get cleaned up.
On May 29, 8:32=EF=BF=BDam, Bart Goddard <goddar...@netscape,net > wrote:
> a.en...@gmail,com wrote in news:f8aa9498-149e-490a-858a-
> 996623804...@z24g2000prf.googlegroups,com :
>
> > When I went to the university, smokers would throw their butts on the
> > ground next to the butt can. =EF=BF=BDThis meant that custodians had to =
clean
> > up their mess. =EF=BF=BD
>
> Newsflash: =EF=BF=BD"Went to university" means that you enrolled and
> attended classes, not that you were a custodian there.
>
> B.
>
> --
> Cheerfully resisting change since 1959.
Geeee! That implies that the wind blew them away. Or they were
tracked away buy people stepping on them and sticking to the bottom of
their feet. Or maybe they were just ground into dust by people
walking on them. Or MAYBE a custodian who is paid with our tax money
has to go out with a dust pan and clean up the mess! No miracle.
somehow the butts get cleaned up.
Re: __ Smokers should pay a deposit on their butts, a B.C. group says <= or have to EAT them! __
a.enisz@gmail,com wrote in news:55ca4998-0502-497f-a5db-ca3e5dc4c844
@p39g2000prm.googlegroups,com :
>> Newsflash: �"Went to university" means that you enrolled and
>> attended classes, not that you were a custodian there.
>>
>> B.
>>
>> --
>> Cheerfully resisting change since 1959.
>
> Geeee! That implies that the wind blew them away. Or they were
> tracked away buy people stepping on them and sticking to the bottom of
> their feet. Or maybe they were just ground into dust by people
> walking on them. Or MAYBE a custodian who is paid with our tax money
> has to go out with a dust pan and clean up the mess! No miracle.
> somehow the butts get cleaned up.
Gee, this is the worst logic yet. Which part of what I says
"implies" anything about what happened to cigarette butts?
(Answer: Nothing.)
B.
--
Cheerfully resisting change since 1959.
a.enisz@gmail,com wrote in news:55ca4998-0502-497f-a5db-ca3e5dc4c844
@p39g2000prm.googlegroups,com :
>> Newsflash: �"Went to university" means that you enrolled and
>> attended classes, not that you were a custodian there.
>>
>> B.
>>
>> --
>> Cheerfully resisting change since 1959.
>
> Geeee! That implies that the wind blew them away. Or they were
> tracked away buy people stepping on them and sticking to the bottom of
> their feet. Or maybe they were just ground into dust by people
> walking on them. Or MAYBE a custodian who is paid with our tax money
> has to go out with a dust pan and clean up the mess! No miracle.
> somehow the butts get cleaned up.
Gee, this is the worst logic yet. Which part of what I says
"implies" anything about what happened to cigarette butts?
(Answer: Nothing.)
B.
--
Cheerfully resisting change since 1959.
Re: __ Smokers should pay a deposit on their butts, a B.C. group says <= or have to EAT them! __
On 30 May 2008 00:33:23 GMT, Bart Goddard <goddardbe@netscape,net >
wrote:
>a.enisz@gmail,com wrote in news:55ca4998-0502-497f-a5db-ca3e5dc4c844
>@p39g2000prm.googlegroups,com :
>
>
>>> Newsflash: �"Went to university" means that you enrolled and
>>> attended classes, not that you were a custodian there.
>>>
>>> B.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheerfully resisting change since 1959.
>>
>> Geeee! That implies that the wind blew them away. Or they were
>> tracked away buy people stepping on them and sticking to the bottom of
>> their feet. Or maybe they were just ground into dust by people
>> walking on them. Or MAYBE a custodian who is paid with our tax money
>> has to go out with a dust pan and clean up the mess! No miracle.
>> somehow the butts get cleaned up.
>
>Gee, this is the worst logic yet. Which part of what I says
>"implies" anything about what happened to cigarette butts?
>(Answer: Nothing.)
>
>B.
Bart,
Do you honestly expect any logic from anti's?
On 30 May 2008 00:33:23 GMT, Bart Goddard <goddardbe@netscape,net >
wrote:
>a.enisz@gmail,com wrote in news:55ca4998-0502-497f-a5db-ca3e5dc4c844
>@p39g2000prm.googlegroups,com :
>
>
>>> Newsflash: �"Went to university" means that you enrolled and
>>> attended classes, not that you were a custodian there.
>>>
>>> B.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheerfully resisting change since 1959.
>>
>> Geeee! That implies that the wind blew them away. Or they were
>> tracked away buy people stepping on them and sticking to the bottom of
>> their feet. Or maybe they were just ground into dust by people
>> walking on them. Or MAYBE a custodian who is paid with our tax money
>> has to go out with a dust pan and clean up the mess! No miracle.
>> somehow the butts get cleaned up.
>
>Gee, this is the worst logic yet. Which part of what I says
>"implies" anything about what happened to cigarette butts?
>(Answer: Nothing.)
>
>B.
Bart,
Do you honestly expect any logic from anti's?
Re: __ Smokers should pay a deposit on their butts, a B.C. group says <= or have to EAT them! __
Ray wrote:
> On 30 May 2008 00:33:23 GMT, Bart Goddard <goddardbe@netscape,net >
> wrote:
>
>> a.enisz@gmail,com wrote in news:55ca4998-0502-497f-a5db-ca3e5dc4c844
>> @p39g2000prm.googlegroups,com :
>>
>>
>>>> Newsflash: �"Went to university" means that you enrolled and
>>>> attended classes, not that you were a custodian there.
>>>>
>>>> B.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cheerfully resisting change since 1959.
>>>
>>> Geeee! That implies that the wind blew them away. Or they were
>>> tracked away buy people stepping on them and sticking to the bottom
>>> of their feet. Or maybe they were just ground into dust by people
>>> walking on them. Or MAYBE a custodian who is paid with our tax
>>> money has to go out with a dust pan and clean up the mess! No
>>> miracle. somehow the butts get cleaned up.
>>
>> Gee, this is the worst logic yet. Which part of what I says
>> "implies" anything about what happened to cigarette butts?
>> (Answer: Nothing.)
>>
>> B.
>
> Bart,
>
> Do you honestly expect any logic from anti's?
Queries the tobacco-sucking addict.
Ray wrote:
> On 30 May 2008 00:33:23 GMT, Bart Goddard <goddardbe@netscape,net >
> wrote:
>
>> a.enisz@gmail,com wrote in news:55ca4998-0502-497f-a5db-ca3e5dc4c844
>> @p39g2000prm.googlegroups,com :
>>
>>
>>>> Newsflash: �"Went to university" means that you enrolled and
>>>> attended classes, not that you were a custodian there.
>>>>
>>>> B.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cheerfully resisting change since 1959.
>>>
>>> Geeee! That implies that the wind blew them away. Or they were
>>> tracked away buy people stepping on them and sticking to the bottom
>>> of their feet. Or maybe they were just ground into dust by people
>>> walking on them. Or MAYBE a custodian who is paid with our tax
>>> money has to go out with a dust pan and clean up the mess! No
>>> miracle. somehow the butts get cleaned up.
>>
>> Gee, this is the worst logic yet. Which part of what I says
>> "implies" anything about what happened to cigarette butts?
>> (Answer: Nothing.)
>>
>> B.
>
> Bart,
>
> Do you honestly expect any logic from anti's?
Queries the tobacco-sucking addict.
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Re: __ Smokers should pay a deposit on their butts, a B.C. group says <= or have to EAT them! __
On May 30, 8:49 pm, "*VoxieBytes IT **" <TrollAddict.me> wrote:
> lil' n, up at 4:30 in the AM to feed his tobacco jonez ...
>
> Good one, addict.
>
> ROTFLMAO!
>
> ** Posted from http :// www .teranews,com **
The BIG N never sleeps. To busy fire'n 'em up! Glad you got yourself a
laugh. But then, small minds are easily amused. Nice bite troll-fish,
Whadda schlepp.
TBN - fire'n up a 1:40 P.M. illegal Havana for the KKKolorado KKKook.
On May 30, 8:49 pm, "*VoxieBytes IT **" <TrollAddict.me> wrote:
> lil' n, up at 4:30 in the AM to feed his tobacco jonez ...
>
> Good one, addict.
>
> ROTFLMAO!
>
> ** Posted from http :// www .teranews,com **
The BIG N never sleeps. To busy fire'n 'em up! Glad you got yourself a
laugh. But then, small minds are easily amused. Nice bite troll-fish,
Whadda schlepp.
TBN - fire'n up a 1:40 P.M. illegal Havana for the KKKolorado KKKook.
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