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Improved lifestyle and mortality: Cochrane report
Improved lifestyle and mortality: Cochrane report
http :// www .mrw.interscience.wiley,com /cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD001561/frame.html
"The continued enthusiasm for health promotion practices given the
failure of these community intervention trials is curious, especially
given the huge resources which have been put into them."
ray@iinet,com .au
www .iinet,com .au/~ray
http :// www .mrw.interscience.wiley,com /cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD001561/frame.html
"The continued enthusiasm for health promotion practices given the
failure of these community intervention trials is curious, especially
given the huge resources which have been put into them."
ray@iinet,com .au
www .iinet,com .au/~ray
Re: Improved lifestyle and mortality: Cochrane report
In article <09np445t2jtjbec0c9idomt8j0nk5ojhmi@4ax,com >,
Ray Johnstone <ray@iinet,com .au> wrote:
> http :// www .mrw.interscience.wiley,com /cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD001561/fram
> e.html
What's your point behind posting the reference to
http :// www .mrw.interscience.wiley,com /cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD001561
/frame.html
In article <09np445t2jtjbec0c9idomt8j0nk5ojhmi@4ax,com >,
Ray Johnstone <ray@iinet,com .au> wrote:
> http :// www .mrw.interscience.wiley,com /cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD001561/fram
> e.html
What's your point behind posting the reference to
http :// www .mrw.interscience.wiley,com /cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD001561
/frame.html
Re: Improved lifestyle and mortality: Cochrane report
Troll Shane<s...@DOOFUS,net > wrote:
>
> What's your point behind posting the reference to . . .
Will wonders never cease?? Perhaps one of the most pointless trolls on
on the internet (certainly on this group) with the audacity to ask
such a question. What can be going through that mindless addicted net-
junkie's head?
TBN
Troll Shane<s...@DOOFUS,net > wrote:
>
> What's your point behind posting the reference to . . .
Will wonders never cease?? Perhaps one of the most pointless trolls on
on the internet (certainly on this group) with the audacity to ask
such a question. What can be going through that mindless addicted net-
junkie's head?
TBN
Re: Improved lifestyle and mortality: Cochrane report
On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 05:56:43 -0400, Shawn Hirn <srhi@comcast,net >
wrote:
>In article <09np445t2jtjbec0c9idomt8j0nk5ojhmi@4ax,com >,
> Ray Johnstone <ray@iinet,com .au> wrote:
>
>> http :// www .mrw.interscience.wiley,com /cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD001561/fram
>> e.html
>
>What's your point behind posting the reference to
> http :// www .mrw.interscience.wiley,com /cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD001561
>/frame.html
Very simple. The Cochrane report says, as I have said, quitting,
better diet and more exercise have no effect on life expectancy.
ray@iinet,com .au
www .iinet,com .au/~ray
On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 05:56:43 -0400, Shawn Hirn <srhi@comcast,net >
wrote:
>In article <09np445t2jtjbec0c9idomt8j0nk5ojhmi@4ax,com >,
> Ray Johnstone <ray@iinet,com .au> wrote:
>
>> http :// www .mrw.interscience.wiley,com /cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD001561/fram
>> e.html
>
>What's your point behind posting the reference to
> http :// www .mrw.interscience.wiley,com /cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD001561
>/frame.html
Very simple. The Cochrane report says, as I have said, quitting,
better diet and more exercise have no effect on life expectancy.
ray@iinet,com .au
www .iinet,com .au/~ray
Re: Improved lifestyle and mortality: Cochrane report
"Ray Johnstone" <ray@iinet,com .au> wrote in message
>>What's your point behind posting the reference to
>> http :// www .mrw.interscience.wiley,com /cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD001561
>>/frame.html
> Very simple. The Cochrane report says, as I have said, quitting,
> better diet and more exercise have no effect on life expectancy.
"Possible explanations for this are that the small risk factor changes are
not maintained long-term or are not real but caused by some of the studies
being poorly conducted. "
So the authors themselves admit their data is questionable.
Not only that but one of the conditions generally accepted for a study's
conclusions to be taken seriously is that they should have some plausible
explanation. It clearly defies all common sense that NONE of these changes
had any effect, and it defies all other commonly accepted health knowledge,
so it has to be considered suspect from the word go.
Its obviously just one shoddy study which you have cherry picked to prove
your lost cause. At least this time you aren't quoting yourself, so you may
have moved up one small notch on the scale of credibility. Still some
distance to go Ray.
"Ray Johnstone" <ray@iinet,com .au> wrote in message
>>What's your point behind posting the reference to
>> http :// www .mrw.interscience.wiley,com /cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD001561
>>/frame.html
> Very simple. The Cochrane report says, as I have said, quitting,
> better diet and more exercise have no effect on life expectancy.
"Possible explanations for this are that the small risk factor changes are
not maintained long-term or are not real but caused by some of the studies
being poorly conducted. "
So the authors themselves admit their data is questionable.
Not only that but one of the conditions generally accepted for a study's
conclusions to be taken seriously is that they should have some plausible
explanation. It clearly defies all common sense that NONE of these changes
had any effect, and it defies all other commonly accepted health knowledge,
so it has to be considered suspect from the word go.
Its obviously just one shoddy study which you have cherry picked to prove
your lost cause. At least this time you aren't quoting yourself, so you may
have moved up one small notch on the scale of credibility. Still some
distance to go Ray.
Re: Improved lifestyle and mortality: Cochrane report
On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:38:07 GMT, "Norm" <Normgrant999@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>"Ray Johnstone" <ray@iinet,com .au> wrote in message
>
>>>What's your point behind posting the reference to
>>> http :// www .mrw.interscience.wiley,com /cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD001561
>>>/frame.html
>> Very simple. The Cochrane report says, as I have said, quitting,
>> better diet and more exercise have no effect on life expectancy.
>
>"Possible explanations for this are that the small risk factor changes are
>not maintained long-term or are not real but caused by some of the studies
>being poorly conducted. "
>
>So the authors themselves admit their data is questionable.
>
>Not only that but one of the conditions generally accepted for a study's
>conclusions to be taken seriously is that they should have some plausible
>explanation. It clearly defies all common sense that NONE of these changes
>had any effect, and it defies all other commonly accepted health knowledge,
>so it has to be considered suspect from the word go.
>
>Its obviously just one shoddy study which you have cherry picked to prove
>your lost cause.
If Ray cherry picked one study from a plethora finding the opposite, it should be easy for
you to cite just ONE of them.
On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:38:07 GMT, "Norm" <Normgrant999@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>"Ray Johnstone" <ray@iinet,com .au> wrote in message
>
>>>What's your point behind posting the reference to
>>> http :// www .mrw.interscience.wiley,com /cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD001561
>>>/frame.html
>> Very simple. The Cochrane report says, as I have said, quitting,
>> better diet and more exercise have no effect on life expectancy.
>
>"Possible explanations for this are that the small risk factor changes are
>not maintained long-term or are not real but caused by some of the studies
>being poorly conducted. "
>
>So the authors themselves admit their data is questionable.
>
>Not only that but one of the conditions generally accepted for a study's
>conclusions to be taken seriously is that they should have some plausible
>explanation. It clearly defies all common sense that NONE of these changes
>had any effect, and it defies all other commonly accepted health knowledge,
>so it has to be considered suspect from the word go.
>
>Its obviously just one shoddy study which you have cherry picked to prove
>your lost cause.
If Ray cherry picked one study from a plethora finding the opposite, it should be easy for
you to cite just ONE of them.
Re: Improved lifestyle and mortality: Cochrane report
"Robert" <no@e.mail> wrote in message
news:taqq44hahip4o8dumg3d2cn2fqgesg5kp8@4ax,com ...
> On Mon,
>>>> http :// www .mrw.interscience.wiley,com /cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD001561
>>>>/frame.html
>>> Very simple. The Cochrane report says, as I have said, quitting,
>>> better diet and more exercise have no effect on life expectancy.
>>
>>"Possible explanations for this are that the small risk factor changes are
>>not maintained long-term or are not real but caused by some of the studies
>>being poorly conducted. "
>>
>>So the authors themselves admit their data is questionable.
>>
>>Not only that but one of the conditions generally accepted for a study's
>>conclusions to be taken seriously is that they should have some plausible
>>explanation. It clearly defies all common sense that NONE of these changes
>>had any effect, and it defies all other commonly accepted health
>>knowledge,
>>so it has to be considered suspect from the word go.
>>
>>Its obviously just one shoddy study which you have cherry picked to prove
>>your lost cause.
>
> If Ray cherry picked one study from a plethora finding the opposite, it
> should be easy for
> you to cite just ONE of them.
>
Ogfergawdsake, how many have been cited here? You reject any which have any
association with any group that has any connection with health care (like -
who are health researchers going to work for?) as being tainted.
"Robert" <no@e.mail> wrote in message
news:taqq44hahip4o8dumg3d2cn2fqgesg5kp8@4ax,com ...
> On Mon,
>>>> http :// www .mrw.interscience.wiley,com /cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD001561
>>>>/frame.html
>>> Very simple. The Cochrane report says, as I have said, quitting,
>>> better diet and more exercise have no effect on life expectancy.
>>
>>"Possible explanations for this are that the small risk factor changes are
>>not maintained long-term or are not real but caused by some of the studies
>>being poorly conducted. "
>>
>>So the authors themselves admit their data is questionable.
>>
>>Not only that but one of the conditions generally accepted for a study's
>>conclusions to be taken seriously is that they should have some plausible
>>explanation. It clearly defies all common sense that NONE of these changes
>>had any effect, and it defies all other commonly accepted health
>>knowledge,
>>so it has to be considered suspect from the word go.
>>
>>Its obviously just one shoddy study which you have cherry picked to prove
>>your lost cause.
>
> If Ray cherry picked one study from a plethora finding the opposite, it
> should be easy for
> you to cite just ONE of them.
>
Ogfergawdsake, how many have been cited here? You reject any which have any
association with any group that has any connection with health care (like -
who are health researchers going to work for?) as being tainted.
Re: Improved lifestyle and mortality: Cochrane report
On Jun 9, 2:39 pm, "NumbNorm" <NormGRUNT...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> Ogfergawdsake . . .
Very Numb
On Jun 9, 2:39 pm, "NumbNorm" <NormGRUNT...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> Ogfergawdsake . . .
Very Numb
Re: Improved lifestyle and mortality: Cochrane report
On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:38:07 GMT, "Norm" <Normgrant999@yahoo.ca>
wrote:
>
>"Ray Johnstone" <ray@iinet,com .au> wrote in message
>
>>>What's your point behind posting the reference to
>>> http :// www .mrw.interscience.wiley,com /cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD001561
>>>/frame.html
>> Very simple. The Cochrane report says, as I have said, quitting,
>> better diet and more exercise have no effect on life expectancy.
>
>"Possible explanations for this are that the small risk factor changes are
>not maintained long-term or are not real but caused by some of the studies
>being poorly conducted. "
>
>So the authors themselves admit their data is questionable.
>
>Not only that but one of the conditions generally accepted for a study's
>conclusions to be taken seriously is that they should have some plausible
>explanation. It clearly defies all common sense that NONE of these changes
>had any effect, and it defies all other commonly accepted health knowledge,
>so it has to be considered suspect from the word go.
>
>Its obviously just one shoddy study which you have cherry picked to prove
>your lost cause. At least this time you aren't quoting yourself, so you may
>have moved up one small notch on the scale of credibility. Still some
>distance to go Ray.
>
>
You misunderstand. This is an analysis of every intervention trial
which has ever been conducted.
ray@iinet,com .au
www .iinet,com .au/~ray
On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:38:07 GMT, "Norm" <Normgrant999@yahoo.ca>
wrote:
>
>"Ray Johnstone" <ray@iinet,com .au> wrote in message
>
>>>What's your point behind posting the reference to
>>> http :// www .mrw.interscience.wiley,com /cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD001561
>>>/frame.html
>> Very simple. The Cochrane report says, as I have said, quitting,
>> better diet and more exercise have no effect on life expectancy.
>
>"Possible explanations for this are that the small risk factor changes are
>not maintained long-term or are not real but caused by some of the studies
>being poorly conducted. "
>
>So the authors themselves admit their data is questionable.
>
>Not only that but one of the conditions generally accepted for a study's
>conclusions to be taken seriously is that they should have some plausible
>explanation. It clearly defies all common sense that NONE of these changes
>had any effect, and it defies all other commonly accepted health knowledge,
>so it has to be considered suspect from the word go.
>
>Its obviously just one shoddy study which you have cherry picked to prove
>your lost cause. At least this time you aren't quoting yourself, so you may
>have moved up one small notch on the scale of credibility. Still some
>distance to go Ray.
>
>
You misunderstand. This is an analysis of every intervention trial
which has ever been conducted.
ray@iinet,com .au
www .iinet,com .au/~ray
