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=> Public Smoking Now ILLEGAL in Germany! <= tax, restrict, humiliate!
Public smoking becomes illegal throughout Germany
1 day ago
BERLIN (AFP) - Lighting up in bars and restaurants become illegal across
Germany's 16 states on Tuesday, spelling the end of the country's status as
one of Europe's last smokers' havens.
North-Rhine Westphalia and Thuringia became the last two regions to
implement public smoking bans on July 1, all other states having done so
piecemeal since late 2007.
In Berlin, where a ban took effect on January 1, smokers were granted a
six-month period of grace that expired on Tuesday and those who breach the
ban now face fines of 1,000 euros (1,575 dollars).
In the eastern state of Saxony, fines can run up to 5,000 euros but in the
northern port of Hamburg and Thuringia, in eastern Germany, the highest fine
authorities can issue is 500 euros.
The wealthy southern state of Bavaria is considered to have the country's
toughest public smoking ban because it prohibits restaurants from opening
separate smoking sections -- a practice allowed in other states.
The new anti-tobacco laws have met with strong popular resistance and are
being challenged in courts around the country, where nearly one in three
adults smoke.
In Saxony, Schleswig-Holstein and Rhineland-Palatinate, judges have lifted
the ban in single-room bars, provided the owners serve the drinks
themselves.
The German Constitutional Court last month began hearing three legal
challenges to the new laws, including one from barkeepers and nightclub
owners who contend that it interferes with their right to practise their
profession.
The German cancer association, which claims 3,300 people die from passive
smoking in Germany annually, said Tuesday that the extension of the ban to
all states meant "people can breathe a sigh of relief."
But the country's biggest anti-tobacco lobby, Pro Rauchfrei, has said
efforts to stamp out public smoking are doomed because the absence of a
single federal ban and the number of exemptions allowed by the courts have
created too much confusion.
Public smoking becomes illegal throughout Germany
1 day ago
BERLIN (AFP) - Lighting up in bars and restaurants become illegal across
Germany's 16 states on Tuesday, spelling the end of the country's status as
one of Europe's last smokers' havens.
North-Rhine Westphalia and Thuringia became the last two regions to
implement public smoking bans on July 1, all other states having done so
piecemeal since late 2007.
In Berlin, where a ban took effect on January 1, smokers were granted a
six-month period of grace that expired on Tuesday and those who breach the
ban now face fines of 1,000 euros (1,575 dollars).
In the eastern state of Saxony, fines can run up to 5,000 euros but in the
northern port of Hamburg and Thuringia, in eastern Germany, the highest fine
authorities can issue is 500 euros.
The wealthy southern state of Bavaria is considered to have the country's
toughest public smoking ban because it prohibits restaurants from opening
separate smoking sections -- a practice allowed in other states.
The new anti-tobacco laws have met with strong popular resistance and are
being challenged in courts around the country, where nearly one in three
adults smoke.
In Saxony, Schleswig-Holstein and Rhineland-Palatinate, judges have lifted
the ban in single-room bars, provided the owners serve the drinks
themselves.
The German Constitutional Court last month began hearing three legal
challenges to the new laws, including one from barkeepers and nightclub
owners who contend that it interferes with their right to practise their
profession.
The German cancer association, which claims 3,300 people die from passive
smoking in Germany annually, said Tuesday that the extension of the ban to
all states meant "people can breathe a sigh of relief."
But the country's biggest anti-tobacco lobby, Pro Rauchfrei, has said
efforts to stamp out public smoking are doomed because the absence of a
single federal ban and the number of exemptions allowed by the courts have
created too much confusion.
Re: => Public Smoking Now ILLEGAL in Germany! <= tax, restrict, humiliate!
Reality CheckŠ wrote:
> Public smoking becomes illegal throughout Germany
> 1 day ago
>
Adolph would be so happy.
Reality CheckŠ wrote:
> Public smoking becomes illegal throughout Germany
> 1 day ago
>
Adolph would be so happy.
Re: => Public Smoking Now ILLEGAL in Germany! <= tax, restrict, humiliate!
In article <g4gplr$kle$1@aioe.org>, Ken Dixon <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote:
>> Public smoking becomes illegal throughout Germany
>> 1 day ago
>Adolph would be so happy.
He would be sad. German restaurants are no longer gas chambers.
In article <g4gplr$kle$1@aioe.org>, Ken Dixon <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote:
>> Public smoking becomes illegal throughout Germany
>> 1 day ago
>Adolph would be so happy.
He would be sad. German restaurants are no longer gas chambers.
Re: => Public Smoking Now ILLEGAL in Germany! <= tax, restrict, humiliate!
Bruce Watson wrote:
> In article <g4gplr$kle$1@aioe.org>, Ken Dixon <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote:
>
>>> Public smoking becomes illegal throughout Germany
>>> 1 day ago
>
>> Adolph would be so happy.
>
> He would be sad. German restaurants are no longer gas chambers.
They never were putz, but he was a militant anti smoker. Just like you.
Bruce Watson wrote:
> In article <g4gplr$kle$1@aioe.org>, Ken Dixon <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote:
>
>>> Public smoking becomes illegal throughout Germany
>>> 1 day ago
>
>> Adolph would be so happy.
>
> He would be sad. German restaurants are no longer gas chambers.
They never were putz, but he was a militant anti smoker. Just like you.
Re: => Public Smoking Now ILLEGAL in Germany! <= tax, restrict, humiliate!
In article <g4hi2p$mc9$1@aioe.org>, Ken Dixon <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote:
>Bruce Watson wrote:
>> In article <g4gplr$kle$1@aioe.org>, Ken Dixon <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote:
>>
>>>> Public smoking becomes illegal throughout Germany
>>>> 1 day ago
>>
>>> Adolph would be so happy.
>>
>> He would be sad. German restaurants are no longer gas chambers.
>
>They never were putz, but he was a militant anti smoker. Just like you.
They were gas chambers, addict. Tobacco smoke contains carbon monoxide
and hydrogen cyanide (the main ingredient of Zyklon B)
You smoke. You live in your own portable gas chamber.
You don't want to be a victim. It's time to end the tobacco holocaust.
In article <g4hi2p$mc9$1@aioe.org>, Ken Dixon <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote:
>Bruce Watson wrote:
>> In article <g4gplr$kle$1@aioe.org>, Ken Dixon <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote:
>>
>>>> Public smoking becomes illegal throughout Germany
>>>> 1 day ago
>>
>>> Adolph would be so happy.
>>
>> He would be sad. German restaurants are no longer gas chambers.
>
>They never were putz, but he was a militant anti smoker. Just like you.
They were gas chambers, addict. Tobacco smoke contains carbon monoxide
and hydrogen cyanide (the main ingredient of Zyklon B)
You smoke. You live in your own portable gas chamber.
You don't want to be a victim. It's time to end the tobacco holocaust.
Re: => Public Smoking Now ILLEGAL in Germany! <= tax, restrict, humiliate!
Bruce Watson wrote:
> In article <g4hi2p$mc9$1@aioe.org>, Ken Dixon <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote:
>> Bruce Watson wrote:
>>> In article <g4gplr$kle$1@aioe.org>, Ken Dixon <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Public smoking becomes illegal throughout Germany
>>>>> 1 day ago
>>>> Adolph would be so happy.
>>> He would be sad. German restaurants are no longer gas chambers.
>> They never were putz, but he was a militant anti smoker. Just like you.
>
> They were gas chambers, addict. Tobacco smoke contains carbon monoxide
> and hydrogen cyanide (the main ingredient of Zyklon B)
>
> You smoke. You live in your own portable gas chamber.
>
> You don't want to be a victim. It's time to end the tobacco holocaust.
Do you ever listen to yourself?
Bruce Watson wrote:
> In article <g4hi2p$mc9$1@aioe.org>, Ken Dixon <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote:
>> Bruce Watson wrote:
>>> In article <g4gplr$kle$1@aioe.org>, Ken Dixon <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Public smoking becomes illegal throughout Germany
>>>>> 1 day ago
>>>> Adolph would be so happy.
>>> He would be sad. German restaurants are no longer gas chambers.
>> They never were putz, but he was a militant anti smoker. Just like you.
>
> They were gas chambers, addict. Tobacco smoke contains carbon monoxide
> and hydrogen cyanide (the main ingredient of Zyklon B)
>
> You smoke. You live in your own portable gas chamber.
>
> You don't want to be a victim. It's time to end the tobacco holocaust.
Do you ever listen to yourself?
Re: => Public Smoking Now ILLEGAL in Germany! <= tax, restrict, humiliate!
"Ken Dixon" <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote in message
news:g4ikrm$fu7$1@aioe.org...
> Bruce Watson wrote:
>> In article <g4hi2p$mc9$1@aioe.org>, Ken Dixon <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net >
>> wrote:
>>> Bruce Watson wrote:
>>>> In article <g4gplr$kle$1@aioe.org>, Ken Dixon <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Public smoking becomes illegal throughout Germany
>>>>>> 1 day ago
>>>>> Adolph would be so happy.
>>>> He would be sad. German restaurants are no longer gas chambers.
>>> They never were putz, but he was a militant anti smoker. Just like you.
>>
>> They were gas chambers, addict. Tobacco smoke contains carbon monoxide
>> and hydrogen cyanide (the main ingredient of Zyklon B)
>>
>> You smoke. You live in your own portable gas chamber.
>>
>> You don't want to be a victim. It's time to end the tobacco holocaust.
>
> Do you ever listen to yourself?
Do you ever smell yourself you putrid addict?
"Ken Dixon" <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote in message
news:g4ikrm$fu7$1@aioe.org...
> Bruce Watson wrote:
>> In article <g4hi2p$mc9$1@aioe.org>, Ken Dixon <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net >
>> wrote:
>>> Bruce Watson wrote:
>>>> In article <g4gplr$kle$1@aioe.org>, Ken Dixon <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Public smoking becomes illegal throughout Germany
>>>>>> 1 day ago
>>>>> Adolph would be so happy.
>>>> He would be sad. German restaurants are no longer gas chambers.
>>> They never were putz, but he was a militant anti smoker. Just like you.
>>
>> They were gas chambers, addict. Tobacco smoke contains carbon monoxide
>> and hydrogen cyanide (the main ingredient of Zyklon B)
>>
>> You smoke. You live in your own portable gas chamber.
>>
>> You don't want to be a victim. It's time to end the tobacco holocaust.
>
> Do you ever listen to yourself?
Do you ever smell yourself you putrid addict?
Re: => Public Smoking Now ILLEGAL in Germany! <= tax, restrict, humiliate!
> The German Constitutional Court last month began hearing three legal
> challenges to the new laws, including one from barkeepers and nightclub
> owners who contend that it interferes with their right to practise their
> profession.
Background is: Too many bars and pubs only consist of ONE room which has now
to be a non-smoking area. Guests have to go outside when they like to enjoy a
cigarette with their drinks. Not a problem when weather is OK, but we all
know this summer can't last all year long. :)
In consequence, people choose to have their drinks where they are still
allowed to smoke- in a Biergarten, or at home. For bars where some 50-70% of
the guests use to combine a cigarette with their drink, this means an
incisive loss (next door to my flat there is a beer pub of that kind, I know
what I'm talking about).
I welcome this new law for restaurants, where now everybody can enjoy a meal
without it being spoiled by the cigarette smoke coming from the tables
around. But I still want to have a choice whether I may smoke whilst sipping
a beer in my pub and talk with the other guests. Because, since smoking is
prohibited, most of them don't come anymore.
Regards,
Michael
> The German Constitutional Court last month began hearing three legal
> challenges to the new laws, including one from barkeepers and nightclub
> owners who contend that it interferes with their right to practise their
> profession.
Background is: Too many bars and pubs only consist of ONE room which has now
to be a non-smoking area. Guests have to go outside when they like to enjoy a
cigarette with their drinks. Not a problem when weather is OK, but we all
know this summer can't last all year long. :)
In consequence, people choose to have their drinks where they are still
allowed to smoke- in a Biergarten, or at home. For bars where some 50-70% of
the guests use to combine a cigarette with their drink, this means an
incisive loss (next door to my flat there is a beer pub of that kind, I know
what I'm talking about).
I welcome this new law for restaurants, where now everybody can enjoy a meal
without it being spoiled by the cigarette smoke coming from the tables
around. But I still want to have a choice whether I may smoke whilst sipping
a beer in my pub and talk with the other guests. Because, since smoking is
prohibited, most of them don't come anymore.
Regards,
Michael
Re: => Public Smoking Now ILLEGAL in Germany! <= tax, restrict, humiliate!
"Michael Muetterlein" <opatios@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:6d4id8Fqv7qU1@mid.individual,net ...
>> The German Constitutional Court last month began hearing three legal
>> challenges to the new laws, including one from barkeepers and nightclub
>> owners who contend that it interferes with their right to practise their
>> profession.
>
> Background is: Too many bars and pubs only consist of ONE room which has
> now
> to be a non-smoking area. Guests have to go outside when they like to
> enjoy a
> cigarette with their drinks. Not a problem when weather is OK, but we all
> know this summer can't last all year long. :)
Tough shit, lowlife tobacco-sucking addicts can -- and will -- suffer
any humiliation to feed their pathetic repugnant addiction.
"Michael Muetterlein" <opatios@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:6d4id8Fqv7qU1@mid.individual,net ...
>> The German Constitutional Court last month began hearing three legal
>> challenges to the new laws, including one from barkeepers and nightclub
>> owners who contend that it interferes with their right to practise their
>> profession.
>
> Background is: Too many bars and pubs only consist of ONE room which has
> now
> to be a non-smoking area. Guests have to go outside when they like to
> enjoy a
> cigarette with their drinks. Not a problem when weather is OK, but we all
> know this summer can't last all year long. :)
Tough shit, lowlife tobacco-sucking addicts can -- and will -- suffer
any humiliation to feed their pathetic repugnant addiction.
Re: => Public Smoking Now ILLEGAL in Germany! <= tax, restrict, humiliate!
Reality CheckŠ wrote:
> "Michael Muetterlein" <opatios@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:6d4id8Fqv7qU1@mid.individual,net ...
>>> The German Constitutional Court last month began hearing three legal
>>> challenges to the new laws, including one from barkeepers and nightclub
>>> owners who contend that it interferes with their right to practise their
>>> profession.
>> Background is: Too many bars and pubs only consist of ONE room which has
>> now
>> to be a non-smoking area. Guests have to go outside when they like to
>> enjoy a
>> cigarette with their drinks. Not a problem when weather is OK, but we all
>> know this summer can't last all year long. :)
>
> Tough shit, lowlife tobacco-sucking addicts can -- and will -- suffer
> any humiliation to feed their pathetic repugnant addiction.
Bigot
n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or
politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
Reality CheckŠ wrote:
> "Michael Muetterlein" <opatios@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:6d4id8Fqv7qU1@mid.individual,net ...
>>> The German Constitutional Court last month began hearing three legal
>>> challenges to the new laws, including one from barkeepers and nightclub
>>> owners who contend that it interferes with their right to practise their
>>> profession.
>> Background is: Too many bars and pubs only consist of ONE room which has
>> now
>> to be a non-smoking area. Guests have to go outside when they like to
>> enjoy a
>> cigarette with their drinks. Not a problem when weather is OK, but we all
>> know this summer can't last all year long. :)
>
> Tough shit, lowlife tobacco-sucking addicts can -- and will -- suffer
> any humiliation to feed their pathetic repugnant addiction.
Bigot
n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or
politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
Re: => Public Smoking Now ILLEGAL in Germany! <= tax, restrict, humiliate!
"Ken Dixon" <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote in message
news:g4j7fd$7l9$2@aioe.org...
> Reality_CheckŠ wrote:
>> "Michael Muetterlein" <opatios@gmx.de> wrote in message
>> news:6d4id8Fqv7qU1@mid.individual,net ...
>>>> The German Constitutional Court last month began hearing three legal
>>>> challenges to the new laws, including one from barkeepers and nightclub
>>>> owners who contend that it interferes with their right to practise
>>>> their
>>>> profession.
>>> Background is: Too many bars and pubs only consist of ONE room which has
>>> now
>>> to be a non-smoking area. Guests have to go outside when they like to
>>> enjoy a
>>> cigarette with their drinks. Not a problem when weather is OK, but we
>>> all
>>> know this summer can't last all year long. :)
>>
>> Tough shit, lowlife tobacco-sucking addicts can -- and will -- suffer
>> any humiliation to feed their pathetic repugnant addiction.
>
> Bigot
> n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or
> politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
Addict
-noun 1. a person who is addicted to an activity, habit, or substance: a
drug addict.
- verb
2. to cause to become physiologically or psychologically dependent on an
addictive substance, as alcohol or a narcotic.
"Ken Dixon" <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote in message
news:g4j7fd$7l9$2@aioe.org...
> Reality_CheckŠ wrote:
>> "Michael Muetterlein" <opatios@gmx.de> wrote in message
>> news:6d4id8Fqv7qU1@mid.individual,net ...
>>>> The German Constitutional Court last month began hearing three legal
>>>> challenges to the new laws, including one from barkeepers and nightclub
>>>> owners who contend that it interferes with their right to practise
>>>> their
>>>> profession.
>>> Background is: Too many bars and pubs only consist of ONE room which has
>>> now
>>> to be a non-smoking area. Guests have to go outside when they like to
>>> enjoy a
>>> cigarette with their drinks. Not a problem when weather is OK, but we
>>> all
>>> know this summer can't last all year long. :)
>>
>> Tough shit, lowlife tobacco-sucking addicts can -- and will -- suffer
>> any humiliation to feed their pathetic repugnant addiction.
>
> Bigot
> n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or
> politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
Addict
-noun 1. a person who is addicted to an activity, habit, or substance: a
drug addict.
- verb
2. to cause to become physiologically or psychologically dependent on an
addictive substance, as alcohol or a narcotic.
Re: => Public Smoking Now ILLEGAL in Germany! <= tax, restrict, humiliate!
On Jul 3, 1:53 pm, "Reality CheckŠ" <Real...@Check,it > wrote:
> "Michael Muetterlein" <opat...@gmx.de> wrote in message
>
> news:6d4id8Fqv7qU1@mid.individual,net ...
>
> >> The German Constitutional Court last month began hearing three legal
> >> challenges to the new laws, including one from barkeepers and nightclub
> >> owners who contend that it interferes with their right to practise their
> >> profession.
>
> > Background is: Too many bars and pubs only consist of ONE room which has
> > now
> > to be a non-smoking area. Guests have to go outside when they like to
> > enjoy a
> > cigarette with their drinks. Not a problem when weather is OK, but we all
> > know this summer can't last all year long. :)
>
> Tough shit, lowlife tobacco-sucking addicts can -- and will -- suffer
> any humiliation to feed their pathetic repugnant addiction.
... Do you realize its called an addiction for a reason, they cant
stop... the need a ciggarette other wise thier body starts getting
into REAL Physical pain
On Jul 3, 1:53 pm, "Reality CheckŠ" <Real...@Check,it > wrote:
> "Michael Muetterlein" <opat...@gmx.de> wrote in message
>
> news:6d4id8Fqv7qU1@mid.individual,net ...
>
> >> The German Constitutional Court last month began hearing three legal
> >> challenges to the new laws, including one from barkeepers and nightclub
> >> owners who contend that it interferes with their right to practise their
> >> profession.
>
> > Background is: Too many bars and pubs only consist of ONE room which has
> > now
> > to be a non-smoking area. Guests have to go outside when they like to
> > enjoy a
> > cigarette with their drinks. Not a problem when weather is OK, but we all
> > know this summer can't last all year long. :)
>
> Tough shit, lowlife tobacco-sucking addicts can -- and will -- suffer
> any humiliation to feed their pathetic repugnant addiction.
... Do you realize its called an addiction for a reason, they cant
stop... the need a ciggarette other wise thier body starts getting
into REAL Physical pain
Re: => Public Smoking Now ILLEGAL in Germany! <= tax, restrict, humiliate!
Van wrote:
> On Jul 3, 1:53 pm, "Reality_CheckŠ" <Real...@Check,it > wrote:
>> "Michael Muetterlein" <opat...@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>
>> news:6d4id8Fqv7qU1@mid.individual,net ...
>>
>>>> The German Constitutional Court last month began hearing three
>>>> legal challenges to the new laws, including one from barkeepers
>>>> and nightclub owners who contend that it interferes with their
>>>> right to practise their profession.
>>
>>> Background is: Too many bars and pubs only consist of ONE room
>>> which has now
>>> to be a non-smoking area. Guests have to go outside when they like
>>> to enjoy a
>>> cigarette with their drinks. Not a problem when weather is OK, but
>>> we all know this summer can't last all year long. :)
>>
>> Tough shit, lowlife tobacco-sucking addicts can -- and will -- suffer
>> any humiliation to feed their pathetic repugnant addiction.
>
> ... Do you realize its called an addiction for a reason, they cant
> stop... the need a ciggarette other wise thier body starts getting
> into REAL Physical pain
Good.
Van wrote:
> On Jul 3, 1:53 pm, "Reality_CheckŠ" <Real...@Check,it > wrote:
>> "Michael Muetterlein" <opat...@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>
>> news:6d4id8Fqv7qU1@mid.individual,net ...
>>
>>>> The German Constitutional Court last month began hearing three
>>>> legal challenges to the new laws, including one from barkeepers
>>>> and nightclub owners who contend that it interferes with their
>>>> right to practise their profession.
>>
>>> Background is: Too many bars and pubs only consist of ONE room
>>> which has now
>>> to be a non-smoking area. Guests have to go outside when they like
>>> to enjoy a
>>> cigarette with their drinks. Not a problem when weather is OK, but
>>> we all know this summer can't last all year long. :)
>>
>> Tough shit, lowlife tobacco-sucking addicts can -- and will -- suffer
>> any humiliation to feed their pathetic repugnant addiction.
>
> ... Do you realize its called an addiction for a reason, they cant
> stop... the need a ciggarette other wise thier body starts getting
> into REAL Physical pain
Good.
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