Re: If everyone really is out to get you, you aren't paranoid.In article <ct2874pgtud6thul5tjgc43djius0n2ne4@4ax,com >,
Robert <no@e.mail> wrote:
>On 08 Jul 2008 16:36:37 GMT, anon3c67@nyx.nyx,net (Bruce Watson) wrote:
>
>>In article <dfo6745o270lpebm57e4tpqkeavvmnv574@4ax,com >,
>>Robert <no@e.mail> wrote:
>>>On 08 Jul 2008 05:14:03 GMT, anon3c67@nyx.nyx,net (Bruce Watson) wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <h9n574ppaup59tksi4lr45158ppo918685@4ax,com >,
>>>>Robert <no@e.mail> wrote:
>>>>>On 07 Jul 2008 15:41:02 GMT, anon3c67@nyx.nyx,net (Bruce Watson) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>One liquor store owner said there are two questions you always
>>>>>>get: What's a good wine under $10
>>>>>
>>>>>Charles Shaw, aka Two Buck Chuck.
>>>>
>>>>I have a bottle. Bought it in California. Haven't opened it yet.
>>>
>>>Their chardonnay won first place at the 2007 California State Fair. I'll
>>>bet the judges
>>>were chagrined to learn they picked Franzia in a bottle.
>>
>>All of their varietals are supposed to be good in spite of
>>the price. BTW, wine in California is very cheap. Liquor is
>>expensive. $1.99 Chuck is costlier in TJs outside the Golden State.
>
>Wine is cheap; bottles are expensive. In wines retailing for under $10,
>the bottle cost
>more than the wine -- .60 for the bottle plus .30 for the cork vs. .40
>for the wine.
>That's why Franzia comes in a bladder and Gallo makes their own bottles.
All alcohol is cheap. Taxes, packaging, marketing, advertising, profit,
shipping all make up far more of the final cost
>Screw caps (and bladders) seal better than corks. You can't convince
>wine buyers of that.
>There's a lot of snobbery in wine.
You can convince me. I'd buy it in cans--which is how some of it
is packaged in Europe.
But if you want true aging, you need a cork, and not a plastic one.
>Transportation and wholesaler inefficiencies are also expensive, about a
>dollar a bottle.
>
>Chuck sells for three bucks in the Midwest and four bucks on the East
>Coast. The reason is
>transportation.
And difference in taxation. California protects its industry.
>>But the point is: Drinkers have more freedom. Smokers have less.
>>
>>Some "Nanny State." You get to drink outside on patios, buy alcohol
>>on Sunday, carry a concealed gun.
>>
>>What "Nanny State"? It just looks like another smoker hallucination.
>
>Government has no reason to care whether people injure themselves. It
>goes into nanny mode
>at the request of some industry, most often insurance or pharma, who
>think they can make
>money off safety. That's how we got seat belts, 55 mph speed limit, 21
>year old drinking,
>motorcycle helmets and antismoking.
Medicare and Medicaid care. That's government.
>There's no profit in controlling guns. With alcohol, various factions
>squabble over who
>controls the market and gets the money.
Ever priced a gun? They're not cheap. Restriction makes them pricier.
One wonders why Pharma isn't going after alcohol as they are
(did?) tobacco. On the contrary, after the crackdown by MADD,
liquor laws are loosening.
Tougher nut crack, perhaps. Nearly half the population
takes a drink now and then. When smokers commanded those
numbers, smoking was permitted nearly everywhere there was
no chance of explosion.
Then, too, it doesn't kill in elderhood as surely as tobacco.
(Maybe you're beginning to convince me.) It kills the young
by both accidents and poisoning. But both those have been cracked down
upon. And that happens in smaller numbers than cancer, heart
disease, and emphysema.
The best way to prevent old people from croaking prematurely from
smoking is to prevent them from starting as kids. The quit rate is
dismal.
There has to be a more effective way to accomplish that
than bans and taxes which is responsible for only a few percent.
One wonders why Pharma hasn't hit on an easy button that would make
that happen far more dramatically.