smoking as religion

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !

atheist@home,com wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:48:06 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
> <theprof@jonez,net > wrote:
>
>> atheist@home,com wrote:
>>> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:20:17 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
>>> <theprof@jonez,net > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Richard Evans wrote:
>>>>> "Reality_Check©" <Reality@Check,it > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no right to smoke in public, never was, never will be.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no right to eat hard boiled eggs in public, yet I can do
>>>>> it with impunity.
>>>>
>>>> Too bad you can't smoke in public with impunity, eh loser?
>>>
>>> I do.
>>
>> Not for long, addict.
>
> For as long as I like.

Addict's delusion.

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !



" Prof. Jonez " <theprof@jonez,net > wrote in message
news:6emhefF7tb2gU1@mid.individual,net ...
> atheist@home,com wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:20:17 -0600, " Prof. Jonez "
>> <theprof@jonez,net > wrote:
>>
>>> Richard Evans wrote:
>>>> "Reality Check©" <Reality@Check,it > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no right to smoke in public, never was, never will be.
>>>>
>>>> There is no right to eat hard boiled eggs in public, yet I can do it
>>>> with impunity.
>>>
>>> Too bad you can't smoke in public with impunity, eh loser?
>>
>> I do.
>
> Not for long, addict.
>
>

For laws to be passed needs consensus. Your views are extreme and you are in
a minority, cretin.

So one or two places in the world have banned public smoking outside. It's
hardly the norm, and nor will it become the norm.

The unfortunate truth is: most people are far more reasonable than you.

I think this is because you are a bitchy, whiny, sad little fuck.

--

----------------------------------------------------------
Pink Freud, Dark Side Of The Couch
----------------------------------------------------------
"When I die, I want to pass away peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle
Derek, and not crying and screaming, like the passengers in his car."

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !

In article <rtrhk.31365$E41.14478@text.news.virginmedia,com >,
Pink Freud <somewhere@here,com > wrote:
>
>So one or two places in the world have banned public smoking outside. It's

That's what was said in 1998.

>hardly the norm, and nor will it become the norm.

How can you be so sure?

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !



"Bruce Watson" <anon3c67@nyx.nyx,net > wrote in message
news:1216763657.93127@irys.nyx,net ...
> In article <rtrhk.31365$E41.14478@text.news.virginmedia,com >,
> Pink Freud <somewhere@here,com > wrote:
>>
>>So one or two places in the world have banned public smoking outside. It's
>
> That's what was said in 1998.
>

'98 was indoor.

Completely different kettle of fish. A fact that seems to escape
ProfJones/RealityCheck whatever sock he's using now.

>>hardly the norm, and nor will it become the norm.
>
> How can you be so sure?


--

----------------------------------------------------------
Pink Freud, Dark Side Of The Couch
----------------------------------------------------------
"When I die, I want to pass away peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle
Derek, and not crying and screaming, like the passengers in his car."

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !

In article <lRshk.31434$E41.18187@text.news.virginmedia,com >,
Pink Freud <somewhere@here,com > wrote:
>
>"Bruce Watson" <anon3c67@nyx.nyx,net > wrote in message
>news:1216763657.93127@irys.nyx,net ...
>> In article <rtrhk.31365$E41.14478@text.news.virginmedia,com >,
>> Pink Freud <somewhere@here,com > wrote:
>>>
>>>So one or two places in the world have banned public smoking outside. It's
>>
>> That's what was said in 1998.
>
>'98 was indoor.

That's right. And people said it was unconstitutional, that
it would be soon repealed, that they would bring it to a
referendum and it would be voted out.

Didn't happen.

>Completely different kettle of fish. A fact that seems to escape
>ProfJones/RealityCheck whatever sock he's using now.

Before restaurant and bar bans, there was another different
kettle of fish. There were smoking bans in the workplace
and on airliners.

And before that smoking was banned in elevators, movie
theaters, and gas stations.

>>>hardly the norm, and nor will it become the norm.
>>
>> How can you be so sure?

I remember a time you could smoke on a flight when the
no smoking sign was extinguished. Those signs are no longer
part of the aircraft. Now it's the norm.

Would you have claimed smokefree restaurants would not become
the norm 10 years ago?

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !

On Jul 22, 6:41 pm, anon3...@nyx.nyx,net (Bruce Watson) wrote:
> In article <lRshk.31434$E41.18...@text.news.virginmedia,com >,
>
> Pink Freud <somewh...@here,com > wrote:
>
> >"Bruce Watson" <anon3...@nyx.nyx,net > wrote in message
> >news:1216763657.93127@irys.nyx,net ...
> >> In article <rtrhk.31365$E41.14...@text.news.virginmedia,com >,
> >> Pink Freud <somewh...@here,com > wrote:
>
> >>>So one or two places in the world have banned public smoking outside. It's
>
> >> That's what was said in 1998.
>
> >'98 was indoor.
>
> That's right. And people said it was unconstitutional, that
> it would be soon repealed, that they would bring it to a
> referendum and it would be voted out.
>
> Didn't happen.
>
> >Completely different kettle of fish. A fact that seems to escape
> >ProfJones/RealityCheck whatever sock he's using now.
>
> Before restaurant and bar bans, there was another different
> kettle of fish. There were smoking bans in the workplace
> and on airliners.
>
> And before that smoking was banned in elevators, movie
> theaters, and gas stations.
>
> >>>hardly the norm, and nor will it become the norm.
>
> >> How can you be so sure?
>
> I remember a time you could smoke on a flight when the
> no smoking sign was extinguished. Those signs are no longer
> part of the aircraft. Now it's the norm.
>
> Would you have claimed smokefree restaurants would not become
> the norm 10 years ago?

The beautiful thing about it is, many are going smoke free in areas
that do not have a government-imposed smoking ban. It wouldn't
surprise me to see 90% to 99% of businesses utilizing a smoking ban on
their own, without the government telling them to do so.

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !

jwilcox154@gmail,com wrote:
> On Jul 22, 6:41 pm, anon3...@nyx.nyx,net (Bruce Watson) wrote:
>> In article <lRshk.31434$E41.18...@text.news.virginmedia,com >,
>>
>> Pink Freud <somewh...@here,com > wrote:
>>
>>> "Bruce Watson" <anon3...@nyx.nyx,net > wrote in message
>>> news:1216763657.93127@irys.nyx,net ...
>>>> In article <rtrhk.31365$E41.14...@text.news.virginmedia,com >,
>>>> Pink Freud <somewh...@here,com > wrote:
>>>>> So one or two places in the world have banned public smoking outside. It's
>>>> That's what was said in 1998.
>>> '98 was indoor.
>> That's right. And people said it was unconstitutional, that
>> it would be soon repealed, that they would bring it to a
>> referendum and it would be voted out.
>>
>> Didn't happen.
>>
>>> Completely different kettle of fish. A fact that seems to escape
>>> ProfJones/RealityCheck whatever sock he's using now.
>> Before restaurant and bar bans, there was another different
>> kettle of fish. There were smoking bans in the workplace
>> and on airliners.
>>
>> And before that smoking was banned in elevators, movie
>> theaters, and gas stations.
>>
>>>>> hardly the norm, and nor will it become the norm.
>>>> How can you be so sure?
>> I remember a time you could smoke on a flight when the
>> no smoking sign was extinguished. Those signs are no longer
>> part of the aircraft. Now it's the norm.
>>
>> Would you have claimed smokefree restaurants would not become
>> the norm 10 years ago?
>
> The beautiful thing about it is, many are going smoke free in areas
> that do not have a government-imposed smoking ban. It wouldn't
> surprise me to see 90% to 99% of businesses utilizing a smoking ban on
> their own, without the government telling them to do so.

You know what's funny, though? The last time I was on a plane (about a
month ago), it had a no-smoking light. And every plane I've ever been
on has had a no-smoking light.

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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*--------------------------------------------------*
* Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He *
* can't eat it? *
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Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !

In article <S9GdnRDM-8JtYQvVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@speakeasy,net >,
DanielSan <danielsan@speakeasy,net > wrote:
>jwilcox154@gmail,com wrote:
>> On Jul 22, 6:41 pm, anon3...@nyx.nyx,net (Bruce Watson) wrote:
>>> In article <lRshk.31434$E41.18...@text.news.virginmedia,com >,
>>>
>>> Pink Freud <somewh...@here,com > wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Bruce Watson" <anon3...@nyx.nyx,net > wrote in message
>>>> news:1216763657.93127@irys.nyx,net ...
>>>>> In article <rtrhk.31365$E41.14...@text.news.virginmedia,com >,
>>>>> Pink Freud <somewh...@here,com > wrote:
>>>>>> So one or two places in the world have banned public smoking outside. It's
>>>>> That's what was said in 1998.
>>>> '98 was indoor.
>>> That's right. And people said it was unconstitutional, that
>>> it would be soon repealed, that they would bring it to a
>>> referendum and it would be voted out.
>>>
>>> Didn't happen.
>>>
>>>> Completely different kettle of fish. A fact that seems to escape
>>>> ProfJones/RealityCheck whatever sock he's using now.
>>> Before restaurant and bar bans, there was another different
>>> kettle of fish. There were smoking bans in the workplace
>>> and on airliners.
>>>
>>> And before that smoking was banned in elevators, movie
>>> theaters, and gas stations.
>>>
>>>>>> hardly the norm, and nor will it become the norm.
>>>>> How can you be so sure?
>>> I remember a time you could smoke on a flight when the
>>> no smoking sign was extinguished. Those signs are no longer
>>> part of the aircraft. Now it's the norm.
>>>
>>> Would you have claimed smokefree restaurants would not become
>>> the norm 10 years ago?
>>
>> The beautiful thing about it is, many are going smoke free in areas
>> that do not have a government-imposed smoking ban. It wouldn't
>> surprise me to see 90% to 99% of businesses utilizing a smoking ban on
>> their own, without the government telling them to do so.
>
>You know what's funny, though? The last time I was on a plane (about a
>month ago), it had a no-smoking light. And every plane I've ever been
>on has had a no-smoking light.

You've been flying on some pretty old aircraft.

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !

Bruce Watson wrote:
> In article <S9GdnRDM-8JtYQvVnZ2dnUVZ iydnZ2d@speakeasy,net >,
> DanielSan <danielsan@speakeasy,net > wrote:
>> jwilcox154@gmail,com wrote:
>>> On Jul 22, 6:41 pm, anon3...@nyx.nyx,net (Bruce Watson) wrote:
>>>> In article <lRshk.31434$E41.18...@text.news.virginmedia,com >,
>>>>
>>>> Pink Freud <somewh...@here,com > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Bruce Watson" <anon3...@nyx.nyx,net > wrote in message
>>>>> news:1216763657.93127@irys.nyx,net ...
>>>>>> In article <rtrhk.31365$E41.14...@text.news.virginmedia,com >,
>>>>>> Pink Freud <somewh...@here,com > wrote:
>>>>>>> So one or two places in the world have banned public smoking outside. It's
>>>>>> That's what was said in 1998.
>>>>> '98 was indoor.
>>>> That's right. And people said it was unconstitutional, that
>>>> it would be soon repealed, that they would bring it to a
>>>> referendum and it would be voted out.
>>>>
>>>> Didn't happen.
>>>>
>>>>> Completely different kettle of fish. A fact that seems to escape
>>>>> ProfJones/RealityCheck whatever sock he's using now.
>>>> Before restaurant and bar bans, there was another different
>>>> kettle of fish. There were smoking bans in the workplace
>>>> and on airliners.
>>>>
>>>> And before that smoking was banned in elevators, movie
>>>> theaters, and gas stations.
>>>>
>>>>>>> hardly the norm, and nor will it become the norm.
>>>>>> How can you be so sure?
>>>> I remember a time you could smoke on a flight when the
>>>> no smoking sign was extinguished. Those signs are no longer
>>>> part of the aircraft. Now it's the norm.
>>>>
>>>> Would you have claimed smokefree restaurants would not become
>>>> the norm 10 years ago?
>>> The beautiful thing about it is, many are going smoke free in areas
>>> that do not have a government-imposed smoking ban. It wouldn't
>>> surprise me to see 90% to 99% of businesses utilizing a smoking ban on
>>> their own, without the government telling them to do so.
>> You know what's funny, though? The last time I was on a plane (about a
>> month ago), it had a no-smoking light. And every plane I've ever been
>> on has had a no-smoking light.
>
> You've been flying on some pretty old aircraft.

On my last trip (a month ago), I rode in an MD-80 going up and a 737-800
coming back.

Pretty old aircraft?

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*--------------------------------------------------*
* Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He *
* can't eat it? *
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Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !

In article <5d44add9-9f0e-49d5-a4a2-75fbca9f10be@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups,com >,
<jwilcox154@gmail,com > wrote:
>On Jul 22, 6:41 pm, anon3...@nyx.nyx,net (Bruce Watson) wrote:
>> In article <lRshk.31434$E41.18...@text.news.virginmedia,com >,
>>
>> Pink Freud <somewh...@here,com > wrote:
>>
>> >"Bruce Watson" <anon3...@nyx.nyx,net > wrote in message
>> >news:1216763657.93127@irys.nyx,net ...
>> >> In article <rtrhk.31365$E41.14...@text.news.virginmedia,com >,
>> >> Pink Freud <somewh...@here,com > wrote:
>>
>> >>>So one or two places in the world have banned public smoking outside. It's
>>
>> >> That's what was said in 1998.
>>
>> >'98 was indoor.
>>
>> That's right. And people said it was unconstitutional, that
>> it would be soon repealed, that they would bring it to a
>> referendum and it would be voted out.
>>
>> Didn't happen.
>>
>> >Completely different kettle of fish. A fact that seems to escape
>> >ProfJones/RealityCheck whatever sock he's using now.
>>
>> Before restaurant and bar bans, there was another different
>> kettle of fish. There were smoking bans in the workplace
>> and on airliners.
>>
>> And before that smoking was banned in elevators, movie
>> theaters, and gas stations.
>>
>> >>>hardly the norm, and nor will it become the norm.
>>
>> >> How can you be so sure?
>>
>> I remember a time you could smoke on a flight when the
>> no smoking sign was extinguished. Those signs are no longer
>> part of the aircraft. Now it's the norm.
>>
>> Would you have claimed smokefree restaurants would not become
>> the norm 10 years ago?
>
>The beautiful thing about it is, many are going smoke free in areas
>that do not have a government-imposed smoking ban. It wouldn't
>surprise me to see 90% to 99% of businesses utilizing a smoking ban on
>their own, without the government telling them to do so.

That's what happens. Restaurants and office buildings go smokefree
and then, much later, the city council makes it official. In a few
cases the law is totally unnecessary, there were no longer any
smoking businesses.

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !

In article <rtrhk.31365$E41.14478@text.news.virginmedia,com >,
"Pink Freud" <somewhere@here,com > wrote:
>
> For laws to be passed needs consensus. Your views are extreme and you are in
> a minority, cretin.
>
> So one or two places in the world have banned public smoking outside. It's
> hardly the norm, and nor will it become the norm.

Consensus favors indoor public smoking bans in far more then just "one
or two places." In the United States, approximately half the population
lives in an area where indoor public smoking has been banned. Outside
the United States, far more then "one or two" countries have banned
smoking. In none of the jurisdictions where indoor public smoking has
been banned has there been an uprising against the ban.

> The unfortunate truth is: most people are far more reasonable than you.

Most people feel that what's reasonable is for nicotine addicts to
spread their noxious tobacco spew in the private and to stop harming
others with it.

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !



"Shawn Hirn" <srhi@comcast,net > wrote in message
news:srhi-C70D76.18170922072008@newsgroups,com cast,net ...
> In article <rtrhk.31365$E41.14478@text.news.virginmedia,com >,
> "Pink Freud" <somewhere@here,com > wrote:
>>
>> For laws to be passed needs consensus. Your views are extreme and you are
>> in
>> a minority, cretin.
>>
>> So one or two places in the world have banned public smoking outside.
>> It's
>> hardly the norm, and nor will it become the norm.
>
> Consensus favors indoor public smoking bans in far more then just "one
> or two places." In the United States, approximately half the population
> lives in an area where indoor public smoking has been banned. Outside
> the United States, far more then "one or two" countries have banned
> smoking. In none of the jurisdictions where indoor public smoking has
> been banned has there been an uprising against the ban.
>
>> The unfortunate truth is: most people are far more reasonable than you.
>
> Most people feel that what's reasonable is for nicotine addicts to
> spread their noxious tobacco spew in the private and to stop harming
> others with it.

Note, I'm referring to smoking OUTDOORS in public, and being considerate
about it.

I agree with a ban on indoor smoking in public.

--

----------------------------------------------------------
Pink Freud, Dark Side Of The Couch
----------------------------------------------------------
"When I die, I want to pass away peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle
Derek, and not crying and screaming, like the passengers in his car."

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !

On Jul 22, 4:32 pm, "Pink Freud" <somewh...@here,com > wrote:
> " Prof. Jonez " <thep...@jonez,net > wrote in messagenews:6emhefF7tb2gU1@mid.individual,net ...
>
>
>
> > athe...@home,com wrote:
> >> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:20:17 -0600, " Prof. Jonez "
> >> <thep...@jonez,net > wrote:
>
> >>> Richard Evans wrote:
> >>>> "Reality Check©" <Real...@Check,it > wrote:
>
> >>>>> There is no right to smoke in public, never was, never will be.
>
> >>>> There is no right to eat hard boiled eggs in public, yet I can do it
> >>>> with impunity.
>
> >>> Too bad you can't smoke in public with impunity, eh loser?
>
> >> I do.
>
> > Not for long, addict.
>
> For laws to be passed needs consensus. Your views are extreme and you are in
> a minority, cretin.
>
> So one or two places in the world have banned public smoking outside. It's
> hardly the norm, and nor will it become the norm.
>
> The unfortunate truth is: most people are far more reasonable than you.
>
> I think this is because you are a bitchy, whiny, sad little fuck.
>
> --
>

Somehow, I think this " Prof. Jonez " was once a smoker. IIRC, it
has been proven ex-smokers are worse than those who have never smoked
a day in their lives. The reason for this is simple, they are still
craving a cigarette. Maybe this " Prof. Jonez " and the trolls like
him in this thread are still craving a cigarette whenever they are
around tobacco smoke. ;-)

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !

jwilcox154@gmail,com wrote:
> On Jul 22, 4:32 pm, "Pink Freud" <somewh...@here,com > wrote:
>> "_ Prof. Jonez _" <thep...@jonez,net > wrote in
>> messagenews:6emhefF7tb2gU1@mid.individual,net ...
>>
>>
>>
>>> athe...@home,com wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:20:17 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
>>>> <thep...@jonez,net > wrote:
>>
>>>>> Richard Evans wrote:
>>>>>> "Reality_Check©" <Real...@Check,it > wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> There is no right to smoke in public, never was, never will be.
>>
>>>>>> There is no right to eat hard boiled eggs in public, yet I can
>>>>>> do it with impunity.
>>
>>>>> Too bad you can't smoke in public with impunity, eh loser?
>>
>>>> I do.
>>
>>> Not for long, addict.
>>
>> For laws to be passed needs consensus. Your views are extreme and
>> you are in
>> a minority, cretin.
>>
>> So one or two places in the world have banned public smoking
>> outside. It's
>> hardly the norm, and nor will it become the norm.
>>
>> The unfortunate truth is: most people are far more reasonable than
>> you.
>>
>> I think this is because you are a bitchy, whiny, sad little fuck.
>>
>> --
>>
>
> Somehow, I think this "_ Prof. Jonez _" was once a smoker.

Once again your "thinking" is wrong.

> IIRC, it has been proven ex-smokers are worse than those who have never
> smoked
> a day in their lives.

Once again your "recollection" is wrong, no surprise.

> The reason for this is simple, they are still
> craving a cigarette. Maybe this "_ Prof. Jonez _" and the trolls like
> him in this thread are still craving a cigarette whenever they are
> around tobacco smoke. ;-)

Or maybe you're just wrong once again, eh numbnuts?

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !

atheist@home,com wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:20:17 -0600, " Prof. Jonez "
> <theprof@jonez,net > wrote:
>
>> Richard Evans wrote:
>>> "Reality Check©" <Reality@Check,it > wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is no right to smoke in public, never was, never will be.
>>> There is no right to eat hard boiled eggs in public, yet I can do it
>>> with impunity.
>> Too bad you can't smoke in public with impunity, eh loser?
>
> I do.

SHREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!

(Doppler effect)

You know, I'm ever so glad that stopping everybody from smoking is going
to solve all our problems, wars will end, disease will vanish, the
homeless will live in gold leaf cardboard boxes...

We should devote billions, nay trillions, of public monies to the effort
as Paradise is right around the corner!

(Down there, past those evil smokers)