smoking as religion

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !

Uncle Vic wrote:
> One fine day in alt.atheism, anon3c67@nyx.nyx,net (Bruce Watson)
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>> "But this is completely different, " they will wail ... but in the
>>> end, they will face the exact same fate as the smoker.
>>
>> Lung cancer and emphysema?
>>
>
> No. Persecution by those of you who lead different lives and
> proclaim they are right and we are wrong.

Harming others is wrong, always has been, always will be,
you lowlife tobacco-sucking maggot.

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !

Prof. Jonez wrote:
> Uncle Vic wrote:
>> One fine day in alt.atheism, anon3c67@nyx.nyx,net (Bruce Watson)
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> "But this is completely different, " they will wail ... but in the
>>>> end, they will face the exact same fate as the smoker.
>>> Lung cancer and emphysema?
>>>
>> No. Persecution by those of you who lead different lives and
>> proclaim they are right and we are wrong.
>
> Harming others is wrong, always has been, always will be,
> you lowlife tobacco-sucking maggot.

I take it you do not have nor do you ever use an internal combustion
engine in any way shape or form?

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> _ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
>> Uncle Vic wrote:
>>> One fine day in alt.atheism, anon3c67@nyx.nyx,net (Bruce Watson)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> "But this is completely different, " they will wail ... but in the
>>>>> end, they will face the exact same fate as the smoker.
>>>> Lung cancer and emphysema?
>>>>
>>> No. Persecution by those of you who lead different lives and
>>> proclaim they are right and we are wrong.
>>
>> Harming others is wrong, always has been, always will be,
>> you lowlife tobacco-sucking maggot.
>
> I take it ...

You'll take it anyway we civilized non-smokers decide to give
it to you, addict.

And you'll like it!

Now bend over and have another.

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !

"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:6ei1cfF75dddU1@mid.individual,net ...
>
Cosmic karma in action. It's
> enough to make me feel quite smug.
>
>


karma, one of the many names for God.

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:49:22 +0100, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>"L. Raymond" <badaddress@...,com > wrote in message
>news:3wjju2xpa10g$.yhbmgn8zjai9$.dlg@40tude,net ...
>
>
>> The big problem with these people is that they turn smoking into a moral
>> issue, and that is how they justify their rude and childish behavior.
>> It's amazing how everyone is suddenly an expert on etiquette when the
>> issue is one that makes them feel smug.
>
>As a cigar smoker and a practising atheist, I do believe ... in human
>behaviour. Having successfully set up and refined a whole raft of moral and
>other arguments (notably "public health") it is simply inevitable that the
>very same techniques will now be extended to a range of other activities and
>pleasures, many of which are currently enjoyed by the anti-smoking crowd.
>It is already beginning with food (fat, salt, sugar, additives!), and I can
>see a very good case for alcohol and even sports. It fills me with no
>little glee to anticipate how these self-righteous twits will scream and
>howl as their own pastimes and pleasures come under scrutiny and censure.
>"But this is completely different, " they will wail ... but in the end, they
>will face the exact same fate as the smoker. Cosmic karma in action. It's
>enough to make me feel quite smug.

http :// tinyurl,com /5sowls

Gonna get worse.
Shouldn't be long before they are telling us what sort of clothing to
wear.
All gray.

atheist@home#1554

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !

atheist@home,com wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:49:22 +0100, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> "L. Raymond" <badaddress@...,com > wrote in message
>> news:3wjju2xpa10g$.yhbmgn8zjai9$.dlg@40tude,net ...
>>
>>
>>> The big problem with these people is that they turn smoking into a moral
>>> issue, and that is how they justify their rude and childish behavior.
>>> It's amazing how everyone is suddenly an expert on etiquette when the
>>> issue is one that makes them feel smug.
>> As a cigar smoker and a practising atheist, I do believe ... in human
>> behaviour. Having successfully set up and refined a whole raft of moral and
>> other arguments (notably "public health") it is simply inevitable that the
>> very same techniques will now be extended to a range of other activities and
>> pleasures, many of which are currently enjoyed by the anti-smoking crowd.
>> It is already beginning with food (fat, salt, sugar, additives!), and I can
>> see a very good case for alcohol and even sports. It fills me with no
>> little glee to anticipate how these self-righteous twits will scream and
>> howl as their own pastimes and pleasures come under scrutiny and censure.
>> "But this is completely different, " they will wail ... but in the end, they
>> will face the exact same fate as the smoker. Cosmic karma in action. It's
>> enough to make me feel quite smug.
>
> http :// tinyurl,com /5sowls
>
> Gonna get worse.
> Shouldn't be long before they are telling us what sort of clothing to
> wear.
> All gray.

Nah, bright yellow.

(Shows up better in satellite pix)

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !


"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:mnuol5-f61.ln1@75-104-203-60.cust.wildblue,net ...
> atheist@home,com wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:49:22 +0100, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "L. Raymond" <badaddress@...,com > wrote in message
>>> news:3wjju2xpa10g$.yhbmgn8zjai9$.dlg@40tude,net ...
>>>
>>>
>>>> The big problem with these people is that they turn smoking into a
>>>> moral
>>>> issue, and that is how they justify their rude and childish behavior.
>>>> It's amazing how everyone is suddenly an expert on etiquette when the
>>>> issue is one that makes them feel smug.
>>> As a cigar smoker and a practising atheist, I do believe ... in human
>>> behaviour. Having successfully set up and refined a whole raft of moral
>>> and other arguments (notably "public health") it is simply inevitable
>>> that the very same techniques will now be extended to a range of other
>>> activities and pleasures, many of which are currently enjoyed by the
>>> anti-smoking crowd. It is already beginning with food (fat, salt, sugar,
>>> additives!), and I can see a very good case for alcohol and even sports.
>>> It fills me with no little glee to anticipate how these self-righteous
>>> twits will scream and howl as their own pastimes and pleasures come
>>> under scrutiny and censure. "But this is completely different, " they
>>> will wail ... but in the end, they will face the exact same fate as the
>>> smoker. Cosmic karma in action. It's enough to make me feel quite
>>> smug.
>>
>> http :// tinyurl,com /5sowls
>>
>> Gonna get worse.
>> Shouldn't be long before they are telling us what sort of clothing to
>> wear.
>> All gray.
>
> Nah, bright yellow.
>
> (Shows up better in satellite pix)

Prison-style jumpsuits won't be necessary, as they do not affect the
performance of our implanted GPS and ID chips.

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:49:26 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

>atheist@home,com wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:49:22 +0100, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "L. Raymond" <badaddress@...,com > wrote in message
>>> news:3wjju2xpa10g$.yhbmgn8zjai9$.dlg@40tude,net ...
>>>
>>>
>>>> The big problem with these people is that they turn smoking into a moral
>>>> issue, and that is how they justify their rude and childish behavior.
>>>> It's amazing how everyone is suddenly an expert on etiquette when the
>>>> issue is one that makes them feel smug.
>>> As a cigar smoker and a practising atheist, I do believe ... in human
>>> behaviour. Having successfully set up and refined a whole raft of moral and
>>> other arguments (notably "public health") it is simply inevitable that the
>>> very same techniques will now be extended to a range of other activities and
>>> pleasures, many of which are currently enjoyed by the anti-smoking crowd.
>>> It is already beginning with food (fat, salt, sugar, additives!), and I can
>>> see a very good case for alcohol and even sports. It fills me with no
>>> little glee to anticipate how these self-righteous twits will scream and
>>> howl as their own pastimes and pleasures come under scrutiny and censure.
>>> "But this is completely different, " they will wail ... but in the end, they
>>> will face the exact same fate as the smoker. Cosmic karma in action. It's
>>> enough to make me feel quite smug.
>>
>> http :// tinyurl,com /5sowls
>>
>> Gonna get worse.
>> Shouldn't be long before they are telling us what sort of clothing to
>> wear.
>> All gray.
>
>Nah, bright yellow.
>
>(Shows up better in satellite pix)

Good point.
Of course the FLIR Systems on the smoking police helicopters can
pinpoint us every time we light up.
Wonder when they are going to start shooting us?

atheist@home#1554

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !

Bruce Watson wrote:
> In article <rc8c94sn5giz$.2runpe00fo50.dlg@40tude,net >,
> L. Raymond <badaddress@...,com > wrote:
>
>>Bruce Watson wrote:
>>
>>>Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>>
>>>>On the other hand, I also occasionally see some jerkwad who goes out of
>>>>their way to walk close by and do the "critiquing cough" thing or some
>>>>equivalent. To those I say look, you can simply stop breathing while I
>>>>smoke and it won't bother me one bit.
>>
>>>Obviously, you're not doing enough to "smoke away from
>>>areas where others congregate." Try harder. Go farther
>>>away. Far enough so that no one can go "out of their way
>>>to walk close by."
>>
>>That's not remotely obvious from what he says. There are rude jerks
>>who'll walk halfway across a city park to parade their smug
>>self-perceived superiority over those they disdain.
>
>
> Then the smoker should be farther away than "halfway across
> a city park." The smoker should not be in the park at all. The smoker
> should be in a private place like his own home alone. Smoking
> is no longer acceptable in public. Any public place.



So do you walk up to cars and suck on their exhaust pipes and complain
that they invaded your space too?

Get fucking real, addict - yes, you are an addict - of the worst kind.
Smokers can quit, but you are mentally deranged and there is very little
that can be done for that.

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !

[snips]

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:58:53 +0000, Bruce Watson wrote:

> In article <rc8c94sn5giz$.2runpe00fo50.dlg@40tude,net >, L. Raymond
> <badaddress@...,com > wrote:
>>Bruce Watson wrote:
>>> Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>>
>>>>On the other hand, I also occasionally see some jerkwad who goes out
>>>>of their way to walk close by and do the "critiquing cough" thing or
>>>>some equivalent. To those I say look, you can simply stop breathing
>>>>while I smoke and it won't bother me one bit.
>>
>>> Obviously, you're not doing enough to "smoke away from areas where
>>> others congregate." Try harder. Go farther away. Far enough so that no
>>> one can go "out of their way to walk close by."
>>
>>That's not remotely obvious from what he says. There are rude jerks
>>who'll walk halfway across a city park to parade their smug
>>self-perceived superiority over those they disdain.
>
> Then the smoker should be farther away than "halfway across a city
> park."

This sort of thing strikes me as very similar to another sort of
occurrence - the people who go out of their way to go somewhere - a
fetish club, for example - knowing _exactly_ what they're going to find
when they get there, then getting all upset at the "public displays of
lewdness" or some such rot.

Sorry, cheesedick, but if *you* go out of your way to get yourself all
offended, don't cry to me about it - you did it to yourself. Or, in
simpler terms, grow up.

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !


"L. Raymond" <badaddress@...,com > wrote in message
news:rc8c94sn5giz$.2runpe00fo50.dlg@40tude,net ...
> Bruce Watson wrote:
>> Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>
>>>On the other hand, I also occasionally see some jerkwad who goes out of
>>>their way to walk close by and do the "critiquing cough" thing or some
>>>equivalent. To those I say look, you can simply stop breathing while I
>>>smoke and it won't bother me one bit.
>
>> Obviously, you're not doing enough to "smoke away from
>> areas where others congregate." Try harder. Go farther
>> away. Far enough so that no one can go "out of their way
>> to walk close by."
>
> That's not remotely obvious from what he says. There are rude jerks
> who'll walk halfway across a city park to parade their smug
> self-perceived superiority over those they disdain.

Sucks to be you then, don't it addict?

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !

Reality Check© wrote:
> "L. Raymond" wrote:
>> Bruce Watson wrote:

>>> Obviously, you're not doing enough to "smoke away from
>>> areas where others congregate." Try harder. Go farther
>>> away. Far enough so that no one can go "out of their way
>>> to walk close by."

>> That's not remotely obvious from what he says. There are rude jerks
>> who'll walk halfway across a city park to parade their smug
>> self-perceived superiority over those they disdain.

> Sucks to be you then, don't it addict?

You need to give details. To what am I addicted? In what way does it
suck to be me?

One off lines repeated endlessly may be the height of wit among your
friends, but among grown ups you have to be able to support your
opinions.


--
L. Raymond

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:56:04 -0500, L. Raymond wrote:

> Reality_Check© wrote:
>> "L. Raymond" wrote:
>>> Bruce Watson wrote:
>
>>>> Obviously, you're not doing enough to "smoke away from areas where
>>>> others congregate." Try harder. Go farther away. Far enough so that
>>>> no one can go "out of their way to walk close by."
>
>>> That's not remotely obvious from what he says. There are rude jerks
>>> who'll walk halfway across a city park to parade their smug
>>> self-perceived superiority over those they disdain.
>
>> Sucks to be you then, don't it addict?
>
> You need to give details. To what am I addicted? In what way does it
> suck to be me?
>
> One off lines repeated endlessly may be the height of wit among your
> friends, but among grown ups you have to be able to support your
> opinions.

Ah, so you're addicted to coherent thinking. :)

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:13:22 -0600, Reality_Check© wrote:

> "L. Raymond" <badaddress@...,com > wrote in message
> news:rc8c94sn5giz$.2runpe00fo50.dlg@40tude,net ...
>> Bruce Watson wrote:
>>> Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>>
>>>>On the other hand, I also occasionally see some jerkwad who goes out
>>>>of their way to walk close by and do the "critiquing cough" thing or
>>>>some equivalent. To those I say look, you can simply stop breathing
>>>>while I smoke and it won't bother me one bit.
>>
>>> Obviously, you're not doing enough to "smoke away from areas where
>>> others congregate." Try harder. Go farther away. Far enough so that no
>>> one can go "out of their way to walk close by."
>>
>> That's not remotely obvious from what he says. There are rude jerks
>> who'll walk halfway across a city park to parade their smug
>> self-perceived superiority over those they disdain.
>
> Sucks to be you then, don't it addict?

Not really, as it's not him or I - being the ignorant prick and having
to live with the results of that.

Or, to paraphrase an old exchange, "Kelsey, you're a smoker!" "Reality
Check, you're an asshole - and I can quit."

Re: smoking as a pathetic drug addiction !

In article <g62g3m$4ju$2@news.albasani,net >,
Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail,com > wrote:
>
>Or, to paraphrase an old exchange, "Kelsey, you're a smoker!" "Reality
>Check, you're an asshole - and I can quit."

Many made a first serious attempt to quit after 2 1/2 month of
sporadic smoking - and most failed. Cravings and withdrawal symptoms
grew along with discouragement.

"And by the time they've have smoked for 21 months they have lost
confidence in their ability to quit," O'Loughlin said. "As soon as
they experience craving, the story is over. They're on the trajectory
to becoming an adult smoker."

Despite early and increasing difficulty in quitting, it took about
three years for the smokers to realize that they could not quit
smoking of their own free will.

"They confidently say, 'I've quit and I'm never going to smoke
again,'" said O'Loughlin. "They continue with a bravado attitude and
it takes them quite a while to realize, 'Hey, I can't stop this,' or
'I'm smoking because I can't quit."

http :// www .nationalpost,com /life/story.html?id=661918