Plexi in a pedal?

Plexi in a pedal?

Hi All,

Looking for a pedal that gives a good driven plexi sound through a
cleanish/tweed amp.

Radial Toneone Plexidrive, Blackstar Dual HT or a Fulltone OCD V4 or
somesuch... These are on my list so far. Any
thoughts/opinions/expreiences anyone??

Thanks

MG
UK

Re: Plexi in a pedal?

MG wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Looking for a pedal that gives a good driven plexi sound through a
> cleanish/tweed amp.
>
> Radial Toneone Plexidrive, Blackstar Dual HT or a Fulltone OCD V4 or
> somesuch... These are on my list so far. Any
> thoughts/opinions/expreiences anyone??
>
> Thanks
>
> MG
> UK

Fulltone GT-500, Fulldrive II and Radial Tonebone. The even-ordered
harmonic distortion each produces is very musical. Fulltone's use
MOSFET technology and the GT-500, an inductor as is used in wah's. The
Tonebones use a 12ax7 pre-amp tube. All are excellent. Currently, I'm
using the GT-500, recording, straight into the mixing board and on to
a digital recorder.

When live, I play through a tweed '59 Fender Bassman R.I. and a MusicMan
HD-210 One*Fifty.

Here, I play w/ backing tracks and I'm just a hobby player, but samples;

http :// tinyurl,com /32j32m.The Rory Gallagher tune is probably the best
one for you to try (Shadow Play).

Let us know which box you sample and what you actually choose, why! mvm

Re: Plexi in a pedal?

On May 3, 7:46 am, Truth~Seeker <"fixing-44182"@.REMOVAL~mypacks,net >
wrote:
> MG wrote:
> > Hi All,
>
> > Looking for a pedal that gives a good driven plexi sound through a
> > cleanish/tweed amp.
>
> > Radial Toneone Plexidrive, Blackstar Dual HT or a Fulltone OCD V4 or
> > somesuch... These are on my list so far. Any
> > thoughts/opinions/expreiences anyone??
>
> > Thanks
>
> > MG
> > UK
>
> Fulltone GT-500, Fulldrive II and Radial Tonebone. The even-ordered
> harmonic distortion each produces is very musical. Fulltone's use
> MOSFET technology and the GT-500, an inductor as is used in wah's. The
> Tonebones use a 12ax7 pre-amp tube. All are excellent. Currently, I'm
> using the GT-500, recording, straight into the mixing board and on to
> a digital recorder.
>
> When live, I play through a tweed '59 Fender Bassman R.I. and a MusicMan
> HD-210 One*Fifty.
>
> Here, I play w/ backing tracks and I'm just a hobby player, but samples;
>
> http :// tinyurl,com /32j32m.TheRory Gallagher tune is probably the best
> one for you to try (Shadow Play).
>
> Let us know which box you sample and what you actually choose, why! mvm

I've always liked the sound of the Radial Tonebone (the red one).

-d

Re: Plexi in a pedal?

dvaoa wrote:
> On May 3, 7:46 am, Truth~Seeker <"fixing-44182"@.REMOVAL~mypacks,net >
> wrote:
>> MG wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>> Looking for a pedal that gives a good driven plexi sound through a
>>> cleanish/tweed amp.
>>> Radial Toneone Plexidrive, Blackstar Dual HT or a Fulltone OCD V4 or
>>> somesuch... These are on my list so far. Any
>>> thoughts/opinions/expreiences anyone??
>>> Thanks
>>> MG
>>> UK
>> Fulltone GT-500, Fulldrive II and Radial Tonebone. The even-ordered
>> harmonic distortion each produces is very musical. Fulltone's use
>> MOSFET technology and the GT-500, an inductor as is used in wah's. The
>> Tonebones use a 12ax7 pre-amp tube. All are excellent. Currently, I'm
>> using the GT-500, recording, straight into the mixing board and on to
>> a digital recorder.
>>
>> When live, I play through a tweed '59 Fender Bassman R.I. and a MusicMan
>> HD-210 One*Fifty.
>>
>> Here, I play w/ backing tracks and I'm just a hobby player, but samples;
>>
>> http :// tinyurl,com /32j32m.TheRory Gallagher tune is probably the best
>> one for you to try (Shadow Play).
>>
>> Let us know which box you sample and what you actually choose, why! mvm
>
> I've always liked the sound of the Radial Tonebone (the red one).
>
> -d

I think that's the "Hot Brit" not the "Classic". I've never heard it,
but I think its virtue is high gain. I have the blue 'Classic' model. mvm

Re: Plexi in a pedal?

On May 3, 9:48 am, Truth~Seeker <"fixing-44182"@.REMOVAL~mypacks,net >
wrote:
> dvaoa wrote:
> > On May 3, 7:46 am, Truth~Seeker <"fixing-44182"@.REMOVAL~mypacks,net >
> > wrote:
> >> MG wrote:
> >>> Hi All,
> >>> Looking for a pedal that gives a good driven plexi sound through a
> >>> cleanish/tweed amp.
> >>> Radial Toneone Plexidrive, Blackstar Dual HT or a Fulltone OCD V4 or
> >>> somesuch... These are on my list so far. Any
> >>> thoughts/opinions/expreiences anyone??
> >>> Thanks
> >>> MG
> >>> UK
> >> Fulltone GT-500, Fulldrive II and Radial Tonebone. The even-ordered
> >> harmonic distortion each produces is very musical. Fulltone's use
> >> MOSFET technology and the GT-500, an inductor as is used in wah's. The
> >> Tonebones use a 12ax7 pre-amp tube. All are excellent. Currently, I'm
> >> using the GT-500, recording, straight into the mixing board and on to
> >> a digital recorder.
>
> >> When live, I play through a tweed '59 Fender Bassman R.I. and a MusicMan
> >> HD-210 One*Fifty.
>
> >> Here, I play w/ backing tracks and I'm just a hobby player, but samples;
>
> >> http :// tinyurl,com /32j32m.TheRoryGallagher tune is probably the best
> >> one for you to try (Shadow Play).
>
> >> Let us know which box you sample and what you actually choose, why! mvm
>
> > I've always liked the sound of the Radial Tonebone (the red one).
>
> > -d
>
> I think that's the "Hot Brit" not the "Classic". I've never heard it,
> but I think its virtue is high gain. I have the blue 'Classic' model. mvm

Yeah, that's the one...but it's not an obnoxious high-gainiac. It
really sounds like a driven Marshall.

-d

Re: Plexi in a pedal?


"dvaoa" <dvaoa@altavista,com > wrote in message
news:a9b71c19-2713-402d-9ae9-166468ec47a0@l64g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
> On May 3, 9:48 am, Truth~Seeker <"fixing-44182"@.REMOVAL~mypacks,net >
> wrote:
>> dvaoa wrote:
>> > On May 3, 7:46 am, Truth~Seeker <"fixing-44182"@.REMOVAL~mypacks,net >
>> > wrote:
>> >> MG wrote:
>> >>> Hi All,
>> >>> Looking for a pedal that gives a good driven plexi sound through a
>> >>> cleanish/tweed amp.
>> >>> Radial Toneone Plexidrive, Blackstar Dual HT or a Fulltone OCD V4 or
>> >>> somesuch... These are on my list so far. Any
>> >>> thoughts/opinions/expreiences anyone??
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>> MG
>> >>> UK
>> >> Fulltone GT-500, Fulldrive II and Radial Tonebone. The even-ordered
>> >> harmonic distortion each produces is very musical. Fulltone's use
>> >> MOSFET technology and the GT-500, an inductor as is used in wah's. The
>> >> Tonebones use a 12ax7 pre-amp tube. All are excellent. Currently, I'm
>> >> using the GT-500, recording, straight into the mixing board and on to
>> >> a digital recorder.
>>
>> >> When live, I play through a tweed '59 Fender Bassman R.I. and a
>> >> MusicMan
>> >> HD-210 One*Fifty.
>>
>> >> Here, I play w/ backing tracks and I'm just a hobby player, but
>> >> samples;
>>
>> >> http :// tinyurl,com /32j32m.TheRoryGallagher tune is probably the best
>> >> one for you to try (Shadow Play).
>>
>> >> Let us know which box you sample and what you actually choose, why!
>> >> mvm
>>
>> > I've always liked the sound of the Radial Tonebone (the red one).
>>
>> > -d
>>
>> I think that's the "Hot Brit" not the "Classic". I've never heard it,
>> but I think its virtue is high gain. I have the blue 'Classic' model. mvm
>
> Yeah, that's the one...but it's not an obnoxious high-gainiac. It
> really sounds like a driven Marshall.

Right, cuz the "classic" Plexi sound is anything but high gain.

Most of those sounds were made with cranked 50 or 100 watters and
inefficient 25 watt greenbacks in 4x12 cabs.

--
Jeff
http :// tinyurl,com /2wtovd
www .myspace,com /thejackcolumbus

Re: Plexi in a pedal?

MG . If you mean a Fender Tweed Amp then theres no such thing as clean
unless its been modified? L. Fender was just starting out with his amp
building and took the schematics for the Tweeds straight out of a Western
Electric tube manual. Some of the Brown Panel Amps were clean sounding but
he really didnt get clean perfected until he got to the Blackface Amps. The
Silverface Amps produced a nice,clean sound but they were CBS designed
circuits. The only amps of Fenders that they didnt meddle with were the
Siverface Champs and Princeton/Princeton Reverbs. They were considered
student amps so I guess they figured that they werent worth the effort?


"MG" <100550.3170@compuserve,com > wrote in message
news:48212a00.163475244@news,fr eeuk,net ...
> Hi All,
>
> Looking for a pedal that gives a good driven plexi sound through a
> cleanish/tweed amp.
>
> Radial Toneone Plexidrive, Blackstar Dual HT or a Fulltone OCD V4 or
> somesuch... These are on my list so far. Any
> thoughts/opinions/expreiences anyone??
>
> Thanks
>
> MG
> UK

Re: Plexi in a pedal?

On Sat, 3 May 2008 04:49:43 -0700, "Keith Adams"
<keithadams@socal.rr,com > wrote:

>MG . If you mean a Fender Tweed Amp then theres no such thing as clean
>unless its been modified? L. Fender was just starting out with his amp
>building and took the schematics for the Tweeds straight out of a Western
>Electric tube manual. Some of the Brown Panel Amps were clean sounding but
>he really didnt get clean perfected until he got to the Blackface Amps. The
>Silverface Amps produced a nice,clean sound but they were CBS designed
>circuits. The only amps of Fenders that they didnt meddle with were the
>Siverface Champs and Princeton/Princeton Reverbs. They were considered
>student amps so I guess they figured that they werent worth the effort?
>
>
>"MG" <100550.3170@compuserve,com > wrote in message
>news:48212a00.163475244@news,fr eeuk,net ...
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Looking for a pedal that gives a good driven plexi sound through a
>> cleanish/tweed amp.
>>
>> Radial Toneone Plexidrive, Blackstar Dual HT or a Fulltone OCD V4 or
>> somesuch... These are on my list so far. Any
>> thoughts/opinions/expreiences anyone??
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> MG
>> UK
>

To follow up on this point:

I have a 59 Bassman LTD which at the vols I have to keep it to, is
very clean, sadly - that is one of the reasons for a good Plexi
sound!

But my thinking is this: The early Marshalls were actually straight
copies of Bassman circuits anyway, and as I want that 60's Marshall
sound, I should be able to get close with a good Plexi sounding pedal.
I will certainly have the volume and headroom for it!

I have found a fabulous array of demos on Youtube from a retailer -

proguitarshop,com

Just put that in the search panel and sit back and waste hours and
hours! Superb demos. In amongst all the goodies are the OCD V4 and the
Plexitube and to, a Marshall 18W Plexi combo and a comparable 2061x
head. To my ears the Tonbone Plexitube sounds mighty close, although
the sound demos on the actual Tonebone website are nowhere near
this..?

Hence asking about for real life experiences.

Thanks for all the interest

MG
UK

Re: Plexi in a pedal?

MG wrote:

> On Sat, 3 May 2008 04:49:43 -0700, "Keith Adams"
> <keithadams@socal.rr,com > wrote:
>
>
>>MG . If you mean a Fender Tweed Amp then theres no such thing as clean
>>unless its been modified? L. Fender was just starting out with his amp
>>building and took the schematics for the Tweeds straight out of a Western
>>Electric tube manual. Some of the Brown Panel Amps were clean sounding but
>>he really didnt get clean perfected until he got to the Blackface Amps. The
>>Silverface Amps produced a nice,clean sound but they were CBS designed
>>circuits. The only amps of Fenders that they didnt meddle with were the
>>Siverface Champs and Princeton/Princeton Reverbs. They were considered
>>student amps so I guess they figured that they werent worth the effort?
>>
>>
>>"MG" <100550.3170@compuserve,com > wrote in message
>>news:48212a00.163475244@news,fr eeuk,net ...
>>
>>>Hi All,
>>>
>>>Looking for a pedal that gives a good driven plexi sound through a
>>>cleanish/tweed amp.
>>>
>>>Radial Toneone Plexidrive, Blackstar Dual HT or a Fulltone OCD V4 or
>>>somesuch... These are on my list so far. Any
>>>thoughts/opinions/expreiences anyone??
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>MG
>>>UK
>>
>
> To follow up on this point:
>
> I have a 59 Bassman LTD which at the vols I have to keep it to, is
> very clean, sadly - that is one of the reasons for a good Plexi
> sound!
>
> But my thinking is this: The early Marshalls were actually straight
> copies of Bassman circuits anyway, and as I want that 60's Marshall
> sound, I should be able to get close with a good Plexi sounding pedal.
> I will certainly have the volume and headroom for it!

Early circuits can be similar, but differences in the output transformer, EL34
tubes, and Celestion speakers result in MAJOR tone differences. That being
said, it you can't crank that Bassman, a real Plexi will do you no good at all.

Carl Martin Plexi Tone comes to mind, but I can't say I've spent real time with
it.


>
> I have found a fabulous array of demos on Youtube from a retailer -
>
> proguitarshop,com
>
> Just put that in the search panel and sit back and waste hours and
> hours! Superb demos. In amongst all the goodies are the OCD V4 and the
> Plexitube and to, a Marshall 18W Plexi combo and a comparable 2061x
> head. To my ears the Tonbone Plexitube sounds mighty close, although
> the sound demos on the actual Tonebone website are nowhere near
> this..?
>
> Hence asking about for real life experiences.
>
> Thanks for all the interest
>
> MG
> UK
>
>

Re: Plexi in a pedal?

Les wrote:

>Is that the same signal chain as for the "red GSR" demo -
>lee jackson mr springy, kinglsey head, 2X12 w/ Red White Blue?

Not sure, but if you email Jack, I am sure he would tell you. The Red
GSR is the one that caught my ear.

I got a good deal on a Firefly, so I am going to give that one a
whirl, but may wind up getting one of the Jetters before it is all
over.

Re: Plexi in a pedal?

MG wrote:
> On Sat, 3 May 2008 04:49:43 -0700, "Keith Adams"
> <keithadams@socal.rr,com > wrote:
>
>> MG . If you mean a Fender Tweed Amp then theres no such thing as clean
>> unless its been modified? L. Fender was just starting out with his amp
>> building and took the schematics for the Tweeds straight out of a Western
>> Electric tube manual. Some of the Brown Panel Amps were clean sounding but
>> he really didnt get clean perfected until he got to the Blackface Amps. The
>> Silverface Amps produced a nice,clean sound but they were CBS designed
>> circuits. The only amps of Fenders that they didnt meddle with were the
>> Siverface Champs and Princeton/Princeton Reverbs. They were considered
>> student amps so I guess they figured that they werent worth the effort?
>>
>>
>> "MG" <100550.3170@compuserve,com > wrote in message
>> news:48212a00.163475244@news,fr eeuk,net ...
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Looking for a pedal that gives a good driven plexi sound through a
>>> cleanish/tweed amp.
>>>
>>> Radial Toneone Plexidrive, Blackstar Dual HT or a Fulltone OCD V4 or
>>> somesuch... These are on my list so far. Any
>>> thoughts/opinions/expreiences anyone??
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> MG
>>> UK
>
> To follow up on this point:
>
> I have a 59 Bassman LTD which at the vols I have to keep it to, is
> very clean, sadly - that is one of the reasons for a good Plexi
> sound!
>
> But my thinking is this: The early Marshalls were actually straight
> copies of Bassman circuits anyway, and as I want that 60's Marshall
> sound, I should be able to get close with a good Plexi sounding pedal.
> I will certainly have the volume and headroom for it!
>
> I have found a fabulous array of demos on Youtube from a retailer -
>
> proguitarshop,com
>
> Just put that in the search panel and sit back and waste hours and
> hours! Superb demos. In amongst all the goodies are the OCD V4 and the
> Plexitube and to, a Marshall 18W Plexi combo and a comparable 2061x
> head. To my ears the Tonbone Plexitube sounds mighty close, although
> the sound demos on the actual Tonebone website are nowhere near
> this..?
>
> Hence asking about for real life experiences.
>
> Thanks for all the interest
>
> MG
> UK
>
>
As to distortion and the pedals I own, I've have recently (last 2 years)
bounced between;

1. Original Chandler Tube Driver B.K. Butler (no wall wart version)

Chandler Tube Driver: Harmony Central User ReviewsMy Tube Driver pedal
is an original B.K. Butler that I purchased in 1987. .... white,
non-wall wart, made in San Francisco Chandler Tube Driver pedal. ...
reviews.harmony-central,com /reviews/Effects/product/Chandler/Tube+Driver/10/1


*2*. Fulltone Full Drive II (not the MOSFET model, this one has tiny
toggle switch center -F.M., Comp Cut)

3. Radial Engineering's ToneBone Classic

4. Fulltone GT-500

It's a true horse race between #2 and #3, but for killer tone w/balls, I
have to go w/ #2, hands down. :-) mvm

Re: Plexi in a pedal?

Prof. <plonk>, CEO wrote:
> As to distortion and the pedals I own, I've have recently (last 2 years)
> bounced between;
>
> 1. Original Chandler Tube Driver B.K. Butler (no wall wart version)
>
> Chandler Tube Driver: Harmony Central User ReviewsMy Tube Driver pedal
> is an original B.K. Butler that I purchased in 1987. .... white,
> non-wall wart, made in San Francisco Chandler Tube Driver pedal. ...
> reviews.harmony-central,com /reviews/Effects/product/Chandler/Tube+Driver/10­/1
>
> *2*. Fulltone Full Drive II (not the MOSFET model, this one has tiny
> toggle switch center -F.M., Comp Cut)
>
> 3. Radial Engineering's ToneBone Classic
>
> 4. Fulltone GT-500
>
> It's a true horse race between #2 and #3, but for killer tone w/balls, I
> have to go w/ #2, hands down. :-) mvm

You need to get out more professor. You are only naming the middle of
the road factory jobs.

There is a world of small batch, boutique pedals guarranteed to make
you smile.

Check out discussions about such on The Gear Page.

Re: Plexi in a pedal?

Derek wrote:
> Prof. <plonk>, CEO wrote:
>> As to distortion and the pedals I own, I've have recently (last 2 years)
>> bounced between;
>>
>> 1. Original Chandler Tube Driver B.K. Butler (no wall wart version)
>>
>> Chandler Tube Driver: Harmony Central User ReviewsMy Tube Driver pedal
>> is an original B.K. Butler that I purchased in 1987. .... white,
>> non-wall wart, made in San Francisco Chandler Tube Driver pedal. ...
>> reviews.harmony-central,com /reviews/Effects/product/Chandler/Tube+Driver/10­/1
>>
>> *2*. Fulltone Full Drive II (not the MOSFET model, this one has tiny
>> toggle switch center -F.M., Comp Cut)
>>
>> 3. Radial Engineering's ToneBone Classic
>>
>> 4. Fulltone GT-500
>>
>> It's a true horse race between #2 and #3, but for killer tone w/balls, I
>> have to go w/ #2, hands down. :-) mvm
>
> You need to get out more professor. You are only naming the middle of
> the road factory jobs.
>
> There is a world of small batch, boutique pedals guarranteed to make
> you smile.
>
> Check out discussions about such on The Gear Page.

I know, and I'm a big supporter of the concept of value vs. guys who
look at price only (cheapos who think they're such smart consumers).

How would you describe the leap to your realm of choice, price-wise?

Which of your world of pedals floors you?

Thanks. :-) mvm

Re: Plexi in a pedal?

Prof. <plonk>, CEO wrote:

> I know, and I'm a big supporter of the concept of value vs. guys who
> look at price only (cheapos who think they're such smart consumers).
>
> How would you describe the leap to your realm of choice, price-wise?
>
> Which of your world of pedals floors you?
>
> Thanks. :-) mvm

Good question. I am in my mid 40's have a good day job, and take
music seriously. I play out regularly in a couple different settings,
so for me, $ is not as big an issue.

Case in point. Looking at delay pedals. Eventide ($400), T-Rex
($400), and TC Electronics ($250). I liked the TC as well as the T-
Rex, and the Eventide is the cream of the crop.

However, I know myself well enough that I know i won't use half of the
depth the Eventide offeres. So for me, the TC was the deal.

I am paying a higher price for the Fulltone Wah due to wanting true
bypass. Wahs traditionally suck tone and really color your sound, so
the extra $ is on target for me.

Looking at compressors, and boost/distortion pedals, I have a sound in
my head I am going for, and it ain't another TS or Rat. I hear those
sounds everywhere.

I don't mind paying double or more to get the tone I want. Each to
his own, and MXR, Boss, EH, etc all make fine products, I am just
after something different and don't mind paying, within reason, for
it.

Re: Plexi in a pedal?

Derek wrote:
> Prof. <plonk>, CEO wrote:
>
>> I know, and I'm a big supporter of the concept of value vs. guys who
>> look at price only (cheapos who think they're such smart consumers).
>>
>> How would you describe the leap to your realm of choice, price-wise?
>>
>> Which of your world of pedals floors you?
>>
>> Thanks. :-) mvm
>
> Good question. I am in my mid 40's have a good day job, and take
> music seriously. I play out regularly in a couple different settings,
> so for me, $ is not as big an issue.
>
> Case in point. Looking at delay pedals. Eventide ($400), T-Rex
> ($400), and TC Electronics ($250). I liked the TC as well as the T-
> Rex, and the Eventide is the cream of the crop.
>
> However, I know myself well enough that I know i won't use half of the
> depth the Eventide offeres. So for me, the TC was the deal.
>
> I am paying a higher price for the Fulltone Wah due to wanting true
> bypass. Wahs traditionally suck tone and really color your sound, so
> the extra $ is on target for me.
>
> Looking at compressors, and boost/distortion pedals, I have a sound in
> my head I am going for, and it ain't another TS or Rat. I hear those
> sounds everywhere.
>
> I don't mind paying double or more to get the tone I want. Each to
> his own, and MXR, Boss, EH, etc all make fine products, I am just
> after something different and don't mind paying, within reason, for
> it.
>
I agree with you. The compressor I've really enjoyed and put on my floor
board is the PreSonus BlueMax. For boost I like the xoticeffects RC.
The guys who put others down in these forums are zeros. They'd like to
'key'a Ferrari then beat it -in a blue-smokin' Nissan beater w/ bald
tires and low on oil, high on the scent drifting up from a three day old
wet muffler burn --coming from the fat, toothless, giggling hag in the
passenger seat. Lesson-- Never park near ha-wott tarash tray-lor parx.