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I gots cracklin'!

Reply from: VampX
Date: 06 May 2008, 01:15
I gots cracklin'!

Can crackling/popping sounds eminate from the guitar itself? For ages
I've been convinced it was the amp and that all amp techs have been out
to rip me off.

This really annoying sound starts when I start hitting the strings so
Im thinking a dry solder in the workings of the Strat?

Looks like I'm going to have to apologise to all those guys I've abused.
*eep*


--


VampX
---------------------------------------
Dutifully attacking the underworld!


Reply from: RichL
Date: 06 May 2008, 01:40
Re: I gots cracklin'!

VampX <vampx@thescartissue,com > wrote:
> Can crackling/popping sounds eminate from the guitar itself? For ages
> I've been convinced it was the amp and that all amp techs have been
> out to rip me off.
>
> This really annoying sound starts when I start hitting the strings so
> Im thinking a dry solder in the workings of the Strat?
>
> Looks like I'm going to have to apologise to all those guys I've
> abused. *eep*

Have you tried it on more than one amp?

Try putting a bit of stress on you volume or tone controls (by pushing
down on the knobs) and see if you can *make* it happen.

Could be bad pot, or (as you say) bad solder joints. A bad tone
capacitor is unlikely, but possible.

And no, just because the problem manifests itself when you first hit the
strings doesn't necessarily mean it's in the guitar. You're sending AC
through the amp, where there wasn't any before you hit the strings. The
problem could be anywhere, really.

You'd best start trying different guitars with different amps to narrow
it down.



Reply from: VampX
Date: 06 May 2008, 08:17
Re: I gots cracklin'!

On May 6, 9:40 am, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> VampX <va...@thescartissue,com > wrote:
> > Can crackling/popping sounds eminate from the guitar itself? For ages
> > I've been convinced it was the amp and that all amp techs have been
> > out to rip me off.
>
> > This really annoying sound starts when I start hitting the strings so
> > Im thinking a dry solder in the workings of the Strat?
>
> > Looks like I'm going to have to apologise to all those guys I've
> > abused. *eep*
>
> Have you tried it on more than one amp?
>
> Try putting a bit of stress on you volume or tone controls (by pushing
> down on the knobs) and see if you can *make* it happen.
>
> Could be bad pot, or (as you say) bad solder joints.  A bad tone
> capacitor is unlikely, but possible.
>
> And no, just because the problem manifests itself when you first hit the
> strings doesn't necessarily mean it's in the guitar.  You're sending AC
> through the amp, where there wasn't any before you hit the strings.  The
> problem could be anywhere, really.
>
> You'd best start trying different guitars with different amps to narrow
> it down.

Yeah it was only last night I could be bothered trying to troubleshoot
and found switching to another guitar it magically went away. Talked
to guitar tech today and hes advising me to check the battery for the
mid-range booster (clapton strat). Sounds like a plan and failing that
Ill take it into him. He threw a set of .11's and setup the EJ strat
for $30. I think he likes the Vamp.
:)

Reply from: RichL
Date: 06 May 2008, 21:45
Re: I gots cracklin'!

VampX <vampx66@gmail,com > wrote:
> On May 6, 9:40 am, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>> VampX <va...@thescartissue,com > wrote:
>>> Can crackling/popping sounds eminate from the guitar itself? For
>>> ages I've been convinced it was the amp and that all amp techs have
>>> been out to rip me off.
>>
>>> This really annoying sound starts when I start hitting the strings
>>> so Im thinking a dry solder in the workings of the Strat?
>>
>>> Looks like I'm going to have to apologise to all those guys I've
>>> abused. *eep*
>>
>> Have you tried it on more than one amp?
>>
>> Try putting a bit of stress on you volume or tone controls (by
>> pushing down on the knobs) and see if you can *make* it happen.
>>
>> Could be bad pot, or (as you say) bad solder joints. A bad tone
>> capacitor is unlikely, but possible.
>>
>> And no, just because the problem manifests itself when you first hit
>> the strings doesn't necessarily mean it's in the guitar. You're
>> sending AC through the amp, where there wasn't any before you hit
>> the strings. The problem could be anywhere, really.
>>
>> You'd best start trying different guitars with different amps to
>> narrow it down.
>
> Yeah it was only last night I could be bothered trying to troubleshoot
> and found switching to another guitar it magically went away. Talked
> to guitar tech today and hes advising me to check the battery for the
> mid-range booster (clapton strat). Sounds like a plan and failing that
> Ill take it into him. He threw a set of .11's and setup the EJ strat
> for $30. I think he likes the Vamp.
> :)

So what's not to like? ;-)

Hey, you didn't mention anything active in the guitar! Yeah, the
battery's a likely suspect. Barring that, it's kind of a bitch to track
down.

The only thing I've got with batteries is an Ibanez bass, and that one's
been good for 2 years. I'm not playing it every day though.



Reply from: Monster Zero
Date: 06 May 2008, 01:57
Re: I gots cracklin'!


"VampX" <vampx@thescartissue,com > wrote in message
news:2008050609155611272-vampx@thescartissuecom...
> Can crackling/popping sounds eminate from the guitar itself? For ages I've
> been convinced it was the amp and that all amp techs have been out to rip
> me off.
>
> This really annoying sound starts when I start hitting the strings so Im
> thinking a dry solder in the workings of the Strat?
>
> Looks like I'm going to have to apologise to all those guys I've abused.
> *eep*
>
>
> --
>
>
> VampX
> ---------------------------------------
> Dutifully attacking the underworld!
>

I have the same problem with my strat. I haven't tried to ferret it out yet
but it's exactly as you describe and it bugs the hell out of me sometimes.
Does it on any amp I use.



Reply from: SikStrings@gmail,com
Date: 06 May 2008, 02:06
Re: I gots cracklin'!

On May 5, 7:15 pm, VampX <va...@thescartissue,com > wrote:
> Can crackling/popping sounds eminate from the guitar itself? For ages
> I've been convinced it was the amp and that all amp techs have been out
> to rip me off.
>
> This really annoying sound starts when I start hitting the strings so
> Im thinking a dry solder in the workings of the Strat?
>
> Looks like I'm going to have to apologise to all those guys I've abused.
> *eep*
>
> --
>
> VampX
> ---------------------------------------
> Dutifully attacking the underworld!

If you think it's the guitar, try to clean things up first before you
start screwing with hard wiring, just my opinion. Get some deoxidizer
like Detox E5 (guitar center) and spray it into the pots (the knobs),
you may have to lift the pots out. Pull off the knobs and spray a bit
between the shaft and housing, if there are tiny openings on the back
of the pots, spray a little in there too. Have some rags ready when
you spray the detox, it should not hurt anything on most guitars, like
paint, plastic, etc, but of course you may want to do a test first. It
takes a while to evaporate out and I moved the pots around a little
with the guitar unpluged a couple of times till everything was dry
before I put the pots and jacks back into the body.

Check the jack too. Make sure everything contacts properly in there,
if the cable moves a little, you should have no cracking. I have one
old guitar a friend was using, I had to open it up and rebend the
contact so the plug fit in more securly, it had mis-shaped over the
years, no biggie. If it happens again, the metal is weak with age, and
I will replace it for 6 bucks and a solder gun.. but it's been a
couple of months and he has not complained yet.

After you put it all back together if all of most of the sound is
gone, you are golden, if 90 % is gone, I would try cleaning the pots
one more time..

I am a noob guitarist, and a professional tinkerer (which means I
never use pliers to do the job of a 6 point;) So take this all for
what it is worth.

Reply from: Tony Done
Date: 06 May 2008, 06:04
Re: I gots cracklin'!


<SikStrings@gmail,com > wrote in message
news:2e3b32c9-06c7-427c-8396-169696271c55@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
On May 5, 7:15 pm, VampX <va...@thescartissue,com > wrote:
> Can crackling/popping sounds eminate from the guitar itself? For ages
> I've been convinced it was the amp and that all amp techs have been out
> to rip me off.
>
> This really annoying sound starts when I start hitting the strings so
> Im thinking a dry solder in the workings of the Strat?
>
> Looks like I'm going to have to apologise to all those guys I've abused.
> *eep*
>
> --
>
> VampX
> ---------------------------------------
> Dutifully attacking the underworld!

If you think it's the guitar, try to clean things up first before you
start screwing with hard wiring, just my opinion. Get some deoxidizer
like Detox E5 (guitar center) and spray it into the pots (the knobs),
you may have to lift the pots out. Pull off the knobs and spray a bit
between the shaft and housing, if there are tiny openings on the back
of the pots, spray a little in there too. Have some rags ready when
you spray the detox, it should not hurt anything on most guitars, like
paint, plastic, etc, but of course you may want to do a test first. It
takes a while to evaporate out and I moved the pots around a little
with the guitar unpluged a couple of times till everything was dry
before I put the pots and jacks back into the body.

Check the jack too. Make sure everything contacts properly in there,
if the cable moves a little, you should have no cracking. I have one
old guitar a friend was using, I had to open it up and rebend the
contact so the plug fit in more securly, it had mis-shaped over the
years, no biggie. If it happens again, the metal is weak with age, and
I will replace it for 6 bucks and a solder gun.. but it's been a
couple of months and he has not complained yet.

After you put it all back together if all of most of the sound is
gone, you are golden, if 90 % is gone, I would try cleaning the pots
one more time..

I am a noob guitarist, and a professional tinkerer (which means I
never use pliers to do the job of a 6 point;) So take this all for
what it is worth.

I'm also a (unprofessional )tinkerer, but not-so-new guitarist, and I would
have suggested just about the same as you. I have one guitar that pops and
crackles, and I know it is the socket. I'll get round to fixing it one day.

Vamp, how does it behave with different cords? - A bad plug is another
possibility.

Tony D



Reply from: The Repair Guy
Date: 06 May 2008, 03:26
Re: I gots cracklin'!

VampX <vampx@thescartissue,com > wrote:

>Can crackling/popping sounds eminate from the guitar
>itself?

Doubtful, unless it's active circuitry.

>This really annoying sound starts when I start hitting
>the strings so Im thinking a dry solder in the workings
>of the Strat?

Sounds like A) static electricity or B) a grounding
problem. For B), doublecheck ground connections.
For A) don't drag your feet on carpet :-)

The Repair Guy
repairguy1993 dot netfirms dot com

Reply from: Keith Adams
Date: 06 May 2008, 05:14
Re: I gots cracklin'!

It could be a loose fit between the cord and tip contact on the jack. It
could be dirty pots. It could be any loose wire inside,it could also be the
cord its self.
I'd check the jack first.

"The Repair Guy" <repairguy1993@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:apcv14dgabfc2lh8op87esouoovsngs8oa@4ax,com ...
> VampX <vampx@thescartissue,com > wrote:
>
>>Can crackling/popping sounds eminate from the guitar
>>itself?
>
> Doubtful, unless it's active circuitry.
>
>>This really annoying sound starts when I start hitting
>>the strings so Im thinking a dry solder in the workings
>>of the Strat?
>
> Sounds like A) static electricity or B) a grounding
> problem. For B), doublecheck ground connections.
> For A) don't drag your feet on carpet :-)
>
> The Repair Guy
> repairguy1993 dot netfirms dot com



Reply from: VampX
Date: 06 May 2008, 08:20
Re: I gots cracklin'!

On May 6, 11:26 am, The Repair Guy <repairguy1...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> VampX <va...@thescartissue,com > wrote:
> >Can crackling/popping sounds eminate from the guitar
> >itself?
>
> Doubtful, unless it's active circuitry.

Its that alright. Its got the mid-range booster in it. Runs off a 9
volt battery but I have that turned off most of the time. Still, I
guess it only needs to be plugged in to be sucking juice from the
battery.

>
> >This really annoying sound starts when I start hitting
> >the strings so Im thinking a dry solder in the workings
> >of the Strat?
>
> Sounds like A) static electricity or B) a grounding
> problem. For B), doublecheck ground connections.
> For A) don't drag your feet on carpet  :-)
>
> The Repair Guy
> repairguy1993 dot netfirms dot com


Reply from: Brian Hill
Date: 06 May 2008, 15:01
Re: I gots cracklin'!


"VampX" <vampx66@gmail,com > wrote in message
news:9a0d036a-7f1c-44dc-ae5d-e21075160e70@q1g2000prf.googlegroups,com ...
On May 6, 11:26 am, The Repair Guy <repairguy1...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> VampX <va...@thescartissue,com > wrote:
> >Can crackling/popping sounds eminate from the guitar
> >itself?
>
> Doubtful, unless it's active circuitry.

Its that alright. Its got the mid-range booster in it. Runs off a 9
volt battery but I have that turned off most of the time. Still, I
guess it only needs to be plugged in to be sucking juice from the
battery.

>
> >This really annoying sound starts when I start hitting
> >the strings so Im thinking a dry solder in the workings
> >of the Strat?
>
> Sounds like A) static electricity or B) a grounding
> problem. For B), doublecheck ground connections.
> For A) don't drag your feet on carpet :-)
>
> The Repair Guy
> repairguy1993 dot netfirms dot com

I tend to agree with Repair Guy X.

BH



Reply from: Squier
Date: 06 May 2008, 05:17
Re: I gots cracklin'!

> VampX <vampx@thescartissue,com > wrote:

> Can crackling/popping sounds eminate from the guitar itself? For ages
> I've been convinced it was the amp and that all amp techs have been out
> to rip me off.
>
> This really annoying sound starts when I start hitting the strings so
> Im thinking a dry solder in the workings of the Strat?
>
> Looks like I'm going to have to apologise to all those guys I've abused.
> *eep*


I had a crackler - it was coming from a volume pot.
I installed a new one and soldered it all up nicely
and it took care of it. It was hard to track down
until I started to grab the volume knob and found out
when I exerted pressure on it or tried to wiggle it
back and forth that's where that cracking
was coming from. I think the shaft got loose in there
somehow and the replacement pot works great now.

But there are certainly a number of other ways that
the electronics in a guitar can cause intermittent
crackles and pops. Bad grounds, ground wires touching
other things that they shouldn't be touching such as
pickup wires going to hot connections.. etc.
Sometimes in a Strat people just kinda cram in the
wires and close up the pickguard and eventually a wire
or two works loose or touches something else it shouldn't
or the ground wire (or hot wire) coming from the jack works itself loose
on the jack itself or it makes a bad connection going to the
top of the volume pot (ground) or the little volume pot lug (hot).

Yep - it could definitely be the guitar creating the problems.
There are certainly enough reasons for it to be so.
Grab a pencil soldering iron and get going.

Start by unsrewing the power jack and seeing if the
wires are connected to the jack securely. Then turn
the strat over and undo the trem spring cavity and make
sure the ground wire is securely soldered onto the claw in there.

Then it's off with the pickguard and start snooping around in there.
And definitely take the time to harness up or tape down the
wires nicely if the person before you just crammed all the
wires in there just so that the pickguard could be screwed down.
Bad solder jobs/wiring rather sloppy ir hurried work can lurk
under the nicest looking pickguards.

damn. I write way too much.

So the wiseguy quick answer to your post
should have been (in one word):
> Can crackling/popping sounds eminate from the guitar itself?
Answer --> Yes.

If everything else in your rig checks out then it's gotta be the guitar.

Reply from: Sammy B
Date: 06 May 2008, 06:52
Re: I gots cracklin'!


> Can crackling/popping sounds eminate from the guitar itself? For ages
> I've been convinced it was the amp and that all amp techs have been out to
> rip me off.
> This really annoying sound starts when I start hitting the strings so Im
> thinking a dry solder in the workings of the Strat?
> Looks like I'm going to have to apologise to all those guys I've abused.
> VampX

I have a Gibson LP Special I had been refinishing. Got the finish just
right, restrung, ready to go. All that hand rubbed lacquer and first time I
pick it up it was crackle city. Thought what kind of static monster have I
created here? Opened it up, and the ground soldered to the back of a volume
pot had NOT been tinned, merely soldered to the pot. A couple strands of the
unshielded ground had broken and the frays were making just enough contact
to crackle constantly. I don't know if me rubbing my hand across the guitar
finish caused enough static, but it sounded off like a generator.
Unsoldered the connection, cut above the small fray, tinned the wire,
resoldered...Back to no noise as it always was. Go figure something that
small...

Sammy B




Reply from: Meat Plow
Date: 06 May 2008, 16:07
Re: I gots cracklin'!

On Tue, 06 May 2008 09:15:56 +1000, VampX wrote:

> Can crackling/popping sounds eminate from the guitar itself? For ages
> I've been convinced it was the amp and that all amp techs have been out
> to rip me off.
>
> This really annoying sound starts when I start hitting the strings so
> Im thinking a dry solder in the workings of the Strat?
>
> Looks like I'm going to have to apologise to all those guys I've abused.
> *eep*

Static electricity is a big concern in the studio.




Reply from: Patrick Keenan
Date: 06 May 2008, 16:28
Re: I gots cracklin'!


"VampX" <vampx@thescartissue,com > wrote in message
news:2008050609155611272-vampx@thescartissuecom...
> Can crackling/popping sounds eminate from the guitar itself?

Absolutely. But it depends what exactly you mean.

What I describe here is static discharge that produces popping and
crackling even if you aren't turning the knobs.

Another possibility is a corroded output jack - you can roll up some 600
grit paper and sand it lightly, or replace it. Really good jacks aren't
expensive.

> For ages I've been convinced it was the amp and that all amp techs have
> been out to rip me off.
>
> This really annoying sound starts when I start hitting the strings so Im
> thinking a dry solder in the workings of the Strat?

One of the causes is static that is discharged when you start touching the
strings. The usual causes are rubbing against the pickguard and non-natural
fiber clothing, such as nylon, rubbing against the finish. It's
re-generated as you play, so the crackling continues.

Rubbing the guitar with antistatic dryer sheets, here the local brand is
called "bounce", can help a lot. Keep some in the case to have on hand.

Alternately, give up nylon and synthetic clothing and wear only low-static
cottons or leather.

HTH
-pk



>
> Looks like I'm going to have to apologise to all those guys I've abused.
> *eep*
>
>
> --
>
>
> VampX
> ---------------------------------------
> Dutifully attacking the underworld!
>




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