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Epi Casino replacement pickups

Reply from: Oskar
Date: 07 May 2008, 15:00
Epi Casino replacement pickups

I love my Casino, and with rehearsal volumes at a reasonable level,
the feedback is controllable i.e. turn off the fuzz immediately when
the song stops! of course this is partly due to the hollow body, but
I'm suspecting replacing the pickups would help out here.

Anyone have any experience regarding this?

GFS has some replacement P90s, what are they like?

Reply from: RichCI
Date: 07 May 2008, 15:05
Re: Epi Casino replacement pickups

On May 7, 9:00 am, Oskar <oskar.si...@gmail,com > wrote:
> I love my Casino, and with rehearsal volumes at a reasonable level,
> the feedback is controllable i.e. turn off the fuzz immediately when
> the song stops! of course this is partly due to the hollow body, but
> I'm suspecting replacing the pickups would help out here.
>
> Anyone have any experience regarding this?
>
> GFS has some replacement P90s, what are they like?


New pickups might help depending on the type of feedback you're
getting. If it's the type that sounds like howling, it's the guitar
itself as hollowbodies and semi hollowbodies are prone to that at high
volume. If it's the high pitched squealing type of feedback,
replacing the stock pickups might help. In either case, I would first
try moving away from your amplifier a bit and/or adjusting your
amplifier for volume, gain and tone (less treble for squealing, less
bass for howling); if that fails, then look into new pickups.

Reply from: Keith Adams
Date: 08 May 2008, 07:41
Re: Epi Casino replacement pickups

F holes dont belong in an electric guitar. It was a terrible idea from the
start. Why guitar manufacturers still keep making the mistake of using them
is beyond me.A hollow body guitar without the F holes will give you the same
sound as one with them minus the feedback. An electric guitar doesnt rely on
the acoustic sound of the body to be heard.

"RichCI" <richci@gmail,com > wrote in message
news:8449ce10-c8a3-494a-be36-897b6dda4936@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
> On May 7, 9:00 am, Oskar <oskar.si...@gmail,com > wrote:
>> I love my Casino, and with rehearsal volumes at a reasonable level,
>> the feedback is controllable i.e. turn off the fuzz immediately when
>> the song stops! of course this is partly due to the hollow body, but
>> I'm suspecting replacing the pickups would help out here.
>>
>> Anyone have any experience regarding this?
>>
>> GFS has some replacement P90s, what are they like?
>
>
> New pickups might help depending on the type of feedback you're
> getting. If it's the type that sounds like howling, it's the guitar
> itself as hollowbodies and semi hollowbodies are prone to that at high
> volume. If it's the high pitched squealing type of feedback,
> replacing the stock pickups might help. In either case, I would first
> try moving away from your amplifier a bit and/or adjusting your
> amplifier for volume, gain and tone (less treble for squealing, less
> bass for howling); if that fails, then look into new pickups.



Reply from: RichL
Date: 07 May 2008, 15:11
Re: Epi Casino replacement pickups

Oskar <oskar.silen@gmail,com > wrote:
> I love my Casino, and with rehearsal volumes at a reasonable level,
> the feedback is controllable i.e. turn off the fuzz immediately when
> the song stops! of course this is partly due to the hollow body, but
> I'm suspecting replacing the pickups would help out here.
>
> Anyone have any experience regarding this?
>
> GFS has some replacement P90s, what are they like?

I think it's mainly the nature of a hollow-body guitar.

I had a guitar custom-made that's modeled on the Casino (a bit smaller,
though) and it has Fralin P-92s, which are similar to P-90s except they
have a split-coil design and are therefore humbucking. They still feed
back! But I consider this a nice feature, as it's easy to control by
dialing in EQ on the amp and also by choosing where to position
yourself.

Sometimes I crank up the volume and stand just so that if I keep still
there's no feedback to speak of but then if I turn my body a bit I get
lots. You can use this to your advantage!



Reply from: jtees4
Date: 07 May 2008, 16:33
Re: Epi Casino replacement pickups

On Wed, 7 May 2008 06:00:10 -0700 (PDT), Oskar <oskar.silen@gmail,com >
wrote:

>I love my Casino, and with rehearsal volumes at a reasonable level,
>the feedback is controllable i.e. turn off the fuzz immediately when
>the song stops! of course this is partly due to the hollow body, but
>I'm suspecting replacing the pickups would help out here.
>
>Anyone have any experience regarding this?
>
>GFS has some replacement P90s, what are they like?

I know it is not the norm, and probably not recommended...and I'm not
endorsing it. But I know someone who filled tha cavity of his 335 with
lightweight spray on foam insulation....and it helped a lot.

***********
Please help me out--REVIEW someone's song at:
http :// reviewmymusic.blogspot,com /

Reply from: Daniel Dreibelbis
Date: 08 May 2008, 03:17
Re: Epi Casino replacement pickups

In article <gcf3249aqa2h6qe6b7ddqust9t2ik9e0ub@4ax,com >,
jtees4 <jtees4@hotmail,com > wrote:

> I know it is not the norm, and probably not recommended...and I'm not
> endorsing it. But I know someone who filled tha cavity of his 335 with
> lightweight spray on foam insulation....and it helped a lot.

there are two very good reasons NOT to do this:

1 - that stuff might get into the controls. Even if they still do
work, if you need to do any electronics replacement, you'd be screwed.

2 - that stuff expands to several times its volume, and it's quite
dense. Too much of it - and it'd be hard to prejudge just how much to
squirt it - could cause the guitar to come undone, body wood crack, etc.
At the store where I work, we sell a low-expansion version for use
around window and door frames, but you'd still have problem number one.

I'd recommend using a volume pedal, or wire up a simple killswitch in
a box on the floor to quickly shut the signal off to the amp. If you do
go the pickup route, make sure they're wax or epoxy potted - it won't
completely kill the feedback, but it might make it more controllable.

--
Dan Dreibelbis, Guitar Nerd - Better Living Through Home Recording
http :// www .soundclick,com /bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=121942
Current Songs - "Primordial Soup With Rice" + "Busted Shoulder Shuffle"
newest YouTube Video, me on bass! http :// www .youtube,com /watch?v=DyKSUB0AF1g

Reply from: PickrHead
Date: 10 May 2008, 06:51
Re: Epi Casino replacement pickups

On Wed, 07 May 2008 10:33:51 -0400, jtees4 <jtees4@hotmail,com > wrote:


>
>I know it is not the norm, and probably not recommended...and I'm not
>endorsing it. But I know someone who filled tha cavity of his 335 with
>lightweight spray on foam insulation....and it helped a lot.
>
>***********


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for that retro look. Be sure to check out his other cool mods down the page!

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Reply from: Steve L
Date: 07 May 2008, 17:59
Re: Epi Casino replacement pickups

If the feedback is caused by the hollowbody construction, stuffing the f
holes with some rag-like material might help. It is common to do this with
holoow and semi hollow guitars. You don't have to completely close the
holes, nor should you since they add to the resonance of the guitar.
Feedback is just a fact of life with non-solid body guitars.

if the feedback is coming from microphonic pickups (which can be the case
with Epi P90's - I had an Epi 56 Gold Top that had this problem), then
better pickups can defintely help. I had Duncan Antiquities installed, and
the squeeling feedback got significantly better.

But note - even a Les Paul Jr with a great quality pickup can squeel a
little if your amp is really cranked, bright, and you are too close to the
amp. Your best bet there is to turn your guitar volume control down when you
stop playing. It also masks the loud P90 hum.

Note: you need chome or nickel covered dog eared P90's for your Casino. Not
every vendor of aftermarket P90's has them available in that configuration.
Be sure to check this carefully before buying.




"Oskar" <oskar.silen@gmail,com > wrote in message
news:51e3f2c8-0fc9-4216-b214-0d6c9841a18b@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
>I love my Casino, and with rehearsal volumes at a reasonable level,
> the feedback is controllable i.e. turn off the fuzz immediately when
> the song stops! of course this is partly due to the hollow body, but
> I'm suspecting replacing the pickups would help out here.
>
> Anyone have any experience regarding this?
>
> GFS has some replacement P90s, what are they like?


Reply from: PickrHead
Date: 10 May 2008, 06:40
Re: Epi Casino replacement pickups

On Wed, 7 May 2008 11:59:06 -0400, "Steve L" <surfer@sliberty,com > wrote:

>
>Note: you need chome or nickel covered dog eared P90's for your Casino. Not
>every vendor of aftermarket P90's has them available in that configuration.
>Be sure to check this carefully before buying.
>
>

You can replace just the covers on any P90 with either type. Check Allparts or
Ebay.

Reply from: Twang
Date: 07 May 2008, 18:39
Re: Epi Casino replacement pickups

On May 7, 8:00 am, Oskar <oskar.si...@gmail,com > wrote:
> I love my Casino, and with rehearsal volumes at a reasonable level,
> the feedback is controllable i.e. turn off the fuzz immediately when
> the song stops! of course this is partly due to the hollow body, but
> I'm suspecting replacing the pickups would help out here.
>
> Anyone have any experience regarding this?
>
> GFS has some replacement P90s, what are they like?

I've been selling Kent Armstrong P90s to Epi Casino players with no
complaints at all. and plenty of compliments.

I agree with the others. semi hollows, center block or not, have
feedback that is natural and good when used right.
proximity matters.. get away from the speakers.

But the tone is better the feedback is less and the quality is first
rate.
Not as cheap as GFS I suppose.

I use them in my sheraton and my les paul!

TWANG

Reply from: PickrHead
Date: 10 May 2008, 06:42
Re: Epi Casino replacement pickups

On Wed, 7 May 2008 06:00:10 -0700 (PDT), Oskar <oskar.silen@gmail,com > wrote:

>I love my Casino, and with rehearsal volumes at a reasonable level,
>the feedback is controllable i.e. turn off the fuzz immediately when
>the song stops! of course this is partly due to the hollow body, but
>I'm suspecting replacing the pickups would help out here.
>
>Anyone have any experience regarding this?
>
>GFS has some replacement P90s, what are they like?


My high school bandmate had a real Casino (mid-60s, USA-made) and it did the
same thing, even with our Silvertone amps at moderate volume. The nature of the
beast.




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