instrument mics -> soundcard

instrument mics -> soundcard

There shouldn't be any problems with an instrument recording mic just
plugging straight into a soundcard, should there? (given it's been sized
down with an attachment to plug into the soundcard).

Re: instrument mics -> soundcard

Grinner wrote:
> There shouldn't be any problems with an instrument recording mic just
> plugging straight into a soundcard, should there? (given it's been sized
> down with an attachment to plug into the soundcard).
>
>

There can be issues with gain iirc. Most sound cards have a dedicated
mic input (pink socket) and most also have a boost function if needed.

Mark

Re: instrument mics -> soundcard


"Mark Bedingfield" <atari030@nomorespampleaseoptusnet . com .au> wrote in
message news:4822c1ee$0$17507$afc38c87@news.optusnet . com .au...
> Grinner wrote:
>> There shouldn't be any problems with an instrument recording mic just
>> plugging straight into a soundcard, should there? (given it's been sized
>> down with an attachment to plug into the soundcard).
>
> There can be issues with gain iirc. Most sound cards have a dedicated mic
> input (pink socket) and most also have a boost function if needed.

cool. i've ony ever used a line out before.
>
> Mark

Re: instrument mics -> soundcard

"Grinner" <grinner@nowhere . com > wrote in message
news:4822bf18$0$13946$afc38c87@news.optusnet . com .au...
> There shouldn't be any problems with an instrument recording mic just
> plugging straight into a soundcard, should there? (given it's been sized
> down with an attachment to plug into the soundcard).

Yes there can be, in terms of gain and impendance. If you're using
something like a Shure SM57/58, those are low-impedance mics and soundcard
inputs are ususally high-impedance. As well, if the mic is a condenser and
requires phantom power, it won't get it from the soundcard.

Better off to get an inexpensive mixer to sit between the soundcard and the
mics and inputs, this will solve all the connection and level / impedance
matching issues in one unit, and can cost under $100 easily.

HTH
-pk

Re: instrument mics -> soundcard


"Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message
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> "Grinner" <grinner@nowhere . com > wrote in message
> news:4822bf18$0$13946$afc38c87@news.optusnet . com .au...
>> There shouldn't be any problems with an instrument recording mic just
>> plugging straight into a soundcard, should there? (given it's been sized
>> down with an attachment to plug into the soundcard).
>
> Yes there can be, in terms of gain and impendance. If you're using
> something like a Shure SM57/58, those are low-impedance mics and soundcard
> inputs are ususally high-impedance. As well, if the mic is a condenser
> and requires phantom power, it won't get it from the soundcard.
>
> Better off to get an inexpensive mixer to sit between the soundcard and
> the mics and inputs, this will solve all the connection and level /
> impedance matching issues in one unit, and can cost under $100 easily.

sounds like a plan. I'll also check the boss rc20-xl, that may suffice.
>
> HTH
> -pk
>

Re: instrument mics -> soundcard

"Grinner" <grinner@nowhere . com > wrote in message
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>
> "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message
> news:9NWdnZ9s5q3mnr7VnZ2dnUVZ_srinZ2d@supernews . com ...
>> "Grinner" <grinner@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>> news:4822bf18$0$13946$afc38c87@news.optusnet . com .au...
>>> There shouldn't be any problems with an instrument recording mic just
>>> plugging straight into a soundcard, should there? (given it's been sized
>>> down with an attachment to plug into the soundcard).
>>
>> Yes there can be, in terms of gain and impendance. If you're using
>> something like a Shure SM57/58, those are low-impedance mics and
>> soundcard inputs are ususally high-impedance. As well, if the mic is a
>> condenser and requires phantom power, it won't get it from the soundcard.
>>
>> Better off to get an inexpensive mixer to sit between the soundcard and
>> the mics and inputs, this will solve all the connection and level /
>> impedance matching issues in one unit, and can cost under $100 easily.
>
> sounds like a plan. I'll also check the boss rc20-xl, that may suffice.

By itself that unit won't suffice, and it's not what I am referring to.

That boss Looper lacks XLR inputs - it's strictly high-impedance, so you
would *still* need impedance and level shifting to use a standard dynamic
mic with it, probably in the form of XLR to 1/4" adapters and transformers.
It won't give you the gain controls that you will need.

And it is much more expensive at US$250 than something like the Behringer
Xenyx 802 (around US$60) or as a much higher quality unit, the Mackie
402-VLZ3 (US$99). Both of these units provide phantom power and have XLR
and 1/4" inputs so they can accept pretty much any kind of microphone.


HTH
-pk

>> HTH
>> -pk
>>
>
>

Re: instrument mics -> soundcard

Patrick Keenan wrote:
> "Grinner" <grinner@nowhere . com > wrote in message
> news:4823fe33$0$30460$afc38c87@news.optusnet . com .au...
>> "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message
>> news:9NWdnZ9s5q3mnr7VnZ2dnUVZ srinZ2d@supernews . com ...
>>> "Grinner" <grinner@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>>> news:4822bf18$0$13946$afc38c87@news.optusnet . com .au...
>>>> There shouldn't be any problems with an instrument recording mic just
>>>> plugging straight into a soundcard, should there? (given it's been sized
>>>> down with an attachment to plug into the soundcard).
>>> Yes there can be, in terms of gain and impendance. If you're using
>>> something like a Shure SM57/58, those are low-impedance mics and
>>> soundcard inputs are ususally high-impedance. As well, if the mic is a
>>> condenser and requires phantom power, it won't get it from the soundcard.
>>>
>>> Better off to get an inexpensive mixer to sit between the soundcard and
>>> the mics and inputs, this will solve all the connection and level /
>>> impedance matching issues in one unit, and can cost under $100 easily.
>> sounds like a plan. I'll also check the boss rc20-xl, that may suffice.
>
> By itself that unit won't suffice, and it's not what I am referring to.
>
> That boss Looper lacks XLR inputs - it's strictly high-impedance, so you
> would *still* need impedance and level shifting to use a standard dynamic
> mic with it, probably in the form of XLR to 1/4" adapters and transformers.
> It won't give you the gain controls that you will need.
>
> And it is much more expensive at US$250 than something like the Behringer
> Xenyx 802 (around US$60) or as a much higher quality unit, the Mackie
> 402-VLZ3 (US$99). Both of these units provide phantom power and have XLR
> and 1/4" inputs so they can accept pretty much any kind of microphone.

Actually a PC can provide power too. IF the front panel AC97 header is
connected correctly. I'm not sure if the new High Definition headers
support it tho;

* w w w .intel . com /support/motherboards/desktop/sb/CS-015851.htm

Check pin 3 - sometimes labelled Mic Power.

Mark

Re: instrument mics -> soundcard

On May 8, 4:51 am, "Grinner" <grin...@nowhere . com > wrote:
> There shouldn't be any problems with an instrument recording mic just
> plugging straight into a soundcard, should there? (given it's been sized
> down with an attachment to plug into the soundcard).

You'll need to use an XLR/1/4" plug adapter, and then a 1/4"-to-1/8"
adapter before plugging into the mic-in jack of your sound card (as
long as it's a dynamic mic). Let us know how it works, I've always
been curious.

-d