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How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?
How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?
Helo I've played guitar for many a year on and off. I recently found that my
top E bending is too flat - I bend a semitione fine, but the tone bend is
flat. I have been practising bending up and managed to snap 7 Top E strings
in the last two weeks! I use gague 10 - 42 D'addario. A new string is
fitted and barely has time to bed in before it snaps too. I estimate that
any one string seems to manage 20 whole tone bends before snapping. I check
with a digital tuner 440 Hz and I am not bending too sharp.
Any Tips?
D.
Helo I've played guitar for many a year on and off. I recently found that my
top E bending is too flat - I bend a semitione fine, but the tone bend is
flat. I have been practising bending up and managed to snap 7 Top E strings
in the last two weeks! I use gague 10 - 42 D'addario. A new string is
fitted and barely has time to bed in before it snaps too. I estimate that
any one string seems to manage 20 whole tone bends before snapping. I check
with a digital tuner 440 Hz and I am not bending too sharp.
Any Tips?
D.
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?
On 08 May 2008, "D." <D@nospamWe8ManU . com > wrote in alt.guitar:
> Helo I've played guitar for many a year on and off. I recently
> found that my top E bending is too flat - I bend a semitione fine,
> but the tone bend is flat.
Keep practicing. The problem is your ear, not the guitar.
> I estimate that any one string seems to manage 20 whole tone bends
> before snapping.
That's not normal. I bend a string many hundreds of times, for
months, often more than one whole tone, without breaking a string.
Your string is probably in contact with a sharp edge on the bridge
or elsewhere that might be able to be smoothed with a file or emery
paper so it doesn't stress the string so much.
On 08 May 2008, "D." <D@nospamWe8ManU . com > wrote in alt.guitar:
> Helo I've played guitar for many a year on and off. I recently
> found that my top E bending is too flat - I bend a semitione fine,
> but the tone bend is flat.
Keep practicing. The problem is your ear, not the guitar.
> I estimate that any one string seems to manage 20 whole tone bends
> before snapping.
That's not normal. I bend a string many hundreds of times, for
months, often more than one whole tone, without breaking a string.
Your string is probably in contact with a sharp edge on the bridge
or elsewhere that might be able to be smoothed with a file or emery
paper so it doesn't stress the string so much.
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?
"Nil" <rednoise+news@REMOVETHIScomcast . net > wrote in message
news:Xns9A987E10285D9nilch1@216.196.97.136...
> On 08 May 2008, "D." <D@nospamWe8ManU . com > wrote in alt.guitar:
>
>> Helo I've played guitar for many a year on and off. I recently
>> found that my top E bending is too flat - I bend a semitione fine,
>> but the tone bend is flat.
>
> Keep practicing. The problem is your ear, not the guitar.
Yeah I know, too much blues.
>
>> I estimate that any one string seems to manage 20 whole tone bends
>> before snapping.
>
> That's not normal. I bend a string many hundreds of times, for
> months, often more than one whole tone, without breaking a string.
> Your string is probably in contact with a sharp edge on the bridge
> or elsewhere that might be able to be smoothed with a file or emery
> paper so it doesn't stress the string so much.
I thought it may have been a sharp fret because I was using the lick library
blues section on bending (Neville Martin)video and playing A Minor
pentatonic, bending the C on the E -String to a G and the string alvays
seemed to go at the 8th fret, measuring the snapped length from the
headstock. But tonight I was playing Jessica by the Allman Bros. and snapped
the string on the main riff bend (D to E 10th fret) and the string snapped
apparently at the tenth fret this time. It always seems to go under my
finger (Makes sense as this is the apex of the bent string). I do not have
long nails or carbon steel fingertips either. I some time practise by
sliding up two frets then bending to the note then repeating several times.
"Nil" <rednoise+news@REMOVETHIScomcast . net > wrote in message
news:Xns9A987E10285D9nilch1@216.196.97.136...
> On 08 May 2008, "D." <D@nospamWe8ManU . com > wrote in alt.guitar:
>
>> Helo I've played guitar for many a year on and off. I recently
>> found that my top E bending is too flat - I bend a semitione fine,
>> but the tone bend is flat.
>
> Keep practicing. The problem is your ear, not the guitar.
Yeah I know, too much blues.
>
>> I estimate that any one string seems to manage 20 whole tone bends
>> before snapping.
>
> That's not normal. I bend a string many hundreds of times, for
> months, often more than one whole tone, without breaking a string.
> Your string is probably in contact with a sharp edge on the bridge
> or elsewhere that might be able to be smoothed with a file or emery
> paper so it doesn't stress the string so much.
I thought it may have been a sharp fret because I was using the lick library
blues section on bending (Neville Martin)video and playing A Minor
pentatonic, bending the C on the E -String to a G and the string alvays
seemed to go at the 8th fret, measuring the snapped length from the
headstock. But tonight I was playing Jessica by the Allman Bros. and snapped
the string on the main riff bend (D to E 10th fret) and the string snapped
apparently at the tenth fret this time. It always seems to go under my
finger (Makes sense as this is the apex of the bent string). I do not have
long nails or carbon steel fingertips either. I some time practise by
sliding up two frets then bending to the note then repeating several times.
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?
"D." <D@nospamWe8ManU . com > wrote in message
news:5GGUj.137$Nk5.130@newsfe15.ams2...
>
> "Nil" <rednoise+news@REMOVETHIScomcast . net > wrote in message
> news:Xns9A987E10285D9nilch1@216.196.97.136...
>> On 08 May 2008, "D." <D@nospamWe8ManU . com > wrote in alt.guitar:
>>
>>> Helo I've played guitar for many a year on and off. I recently
>>> found that my top E bending is too flat - I bend a semitione fine,
>>> but the tone bend is flat.
>>
>> Keep practicing. The problem is your ear, not the guitar.
> Yeah I know, too much blues.
>>
>>> I estimate that any one string seems to manage 20 whole tone bends
>>> before snapping.
>>
>> That's not normal. I bend a string many hundreds of times, for
>> months, often more than one whole tone, without breaking a string.
>> Your string is probably in contact with a sharp edge on the bridge
>> or elsewhere that might be able to be smoothed with a file or emery
>> paper so it doesn't stress the string so much.
>
> I thought it may have been a sharp fret because I was using the lick
> library blues section on bending (Neville Martin)video and playing A Minor
> pentatonic, bending the C on the E -String to a G and the string alvays
> seemed to go at the 8th fret, measuring the snapped length from the
> headstock. But tonight I was playing Jessica by the Allman Bros. and
> snapped the string on the main riff bend (D to E 10th fret) and the string
> snapped apparently at the tenth fret this time. It always seems to go
> under my finger (Makes sense as this is the apex of the bent string). I do
> not have long nails or carbon steel fingertips either. I some time
> practise by sliding up two frets then bending to the note then repeating
> several times.
As Nil says, this isn't normal. And breakage usually occurs not at the
apex of the bend, but where the string can no longer stretch, often the
saddle.
You may have found a bad production run of strings. Change brands and see
if that helps.
HTH
-pk
"D." <D@nospamWe8ManU . com > wrote in message
news:5GGUj.137$Nk5.130@newsfe15.ams2...
>
> "Nil" <rednoise+news@REMOVETHIScomcast . net > wrote in message
> news:Xns9A987E10285D9nilch1@216.196.97.136...
>> On 08 May 2008, "D." <D@nospamWe8ManU . com > wrote in alt.guitar:
>>
>>> Helo I've played guitar for many a year on and off. I recently
>>> found that my top E bending is too flat - I bend a semitione fine,
>>> but the tone bend is flat.
>>
>> Keep practicing. The problem is your ear, not the guitar.
> Yeah I know, too much blues.
>>
>>> I estimate that any one string seems to manage 20 whole tone bends
>>> before snapping.
>>
>> That's not normal. I bend a string many hundreds of times, for
>> months, often more than one whole tone, without breaking a string.
>> Your string is probably in contact with a sharp edge on the bridge
>> or elsewhere that might be able to be smoothed with a file or emery
>> paper so it doesn't stress the string so much.
>
> I thought it may have been a sharp fret because I was using the lick
> library blues section on bending (Neville Martin)video and playing A Minor
> pentatonic, bending the C on the E -String to a G and the string alvays
> seemed to go at the 8th fret, measuring the snapped length from the
> headstock. But tonight I was playing Jessica by the Allman Bros. and
> snapped the string on the main riff bend (D to E 10th fret) and the string
> snapped apparently at the tenth fret this time. It always seems to go
> under my finger (Makes sense as this is the apex of the bent string). I do
> not have long nails or carbon steel fingertips either. I some time
> practise by sliding up two frets then bending to the note then repeating
> several times.
As Nil says, this isn't normal. And breakage usually occurs not at the
apex of the bend, but where the string can no longer stretch, often the
saddle.
You may have found a bad production run of strings. Change brands and see
if that helps.
HTH
-pk
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?
D. wrote:
> Helo I've played guitar for many a year on and off. I recently found
> that my top E bending is too flat - I bend a semitione fine, but the
> tone bend is flat. I have been practising bending up and managed to
> snap 7 Top E strings in the last two weeks! I use gague 10 - 42
> D'addario. A new string is fitted and barely has time to bed in
> before it snaps too. I estimate that any one string seems to manage
> 20 whole tone bends before snapping. I check with a digital tuner 440
> Hz and I am not bending too sharp.
> Any Tips?
Sounds like there's a kink or a burr in the bridge saddle and the string is
snapping as soon as it meets pressure. Any decent repair guy could fix that
with some sandpaper. Unless, you use a magnifying glass, maybe you could see
it and smooth it out yourself.
--
Jeff
* tinyurl . com /5zocvm
w w w .myspace . com /thejackcolumbus
D. wrote:
> Helo I've played guitar for many a year on and off. I recently found
> that my top E bending is too flat - I bend a semitione fine, but the
> tone bend is flat. I have been practising bending up and managed to
> snap 7 Top E strings in the last two weeks! I use gague 10 - 42
> D'addario. A new string is fitted and barely has time to bed in
> before it snaps too. I estimate that any one string seems to manage
> 20 whole tone bends before snapping. I check with a digital tuner 440
> Hz and I am not bending too sharp.
> Any Tips?
Sounds like there's a kink or a burr in the bridge saddle and the string is
snapping as soon as it meets pressure. Any decent repair guy could fix that
with some sandpaper. Unless, you use a magnifying glass, maybe you could see
it and smooth it out yourself.
--
Jeff
* tinyurl . com /5zocvm
w w w .myspace . com /thejackcolumbus
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?
On May 8, 12:05 pm, "D." <D...@nospamWe8ManU . com > wrote:
> Helo I've played guitar for many a year on and off. I recently found that my
> top E bending is too flat - I bend a semitione fine, but the tone bend is
> flat.
Keep at it; it'll come to you where you'll just hear where to bend to.
> I have been practising bending up and managed to snap 7 Top E strings
> in the last two weeks! I use gague 10 - 42 D'addario. A new string is
> fitted and barely has time to bed in before it snaps too. I estimate that
> any one string seems to manage 20 whole tone bends before snapping. I check
> with a digital tuner 440 Hz and I am not bending too sharp.
That doesn't sound normal to me. D'Addario are very popular strings
but they wouldn't be if they kept breaking so I don't believe it's the
strings you're using. Perhaps the slot on the bridge for your E
string has a sharp edge to it where the string passes over it that is
causing a problem.
On May 8, 12:05 pm, "D." <D...@nospamWe8ManU . com > wrote:
> Helo I've played guitar for many a year on and off. I recently found that my
> top E bending is too flat - I bend a semitione fine, but the tone bend is
> flat.
Keep at it; it'll come to you where you'll just hear where to bend to.
> I have been practising bending up and managed to snap 7 Top E strings
> in the last two weeks! I use gague 10 - 42 D'addario. A new string is
> fitted and barely has time to bed in before it snaps too. I estimate that
> any one string seems to manage 20 whole tone bends before snapping. I check
> with a digital tuner 440 Hz and I am not bending too sharp.
That doesn't sound normal to me. D'Addario are very popular strings
but they wouldn't be if they kept breaking so I don't believe it's the
strings you're using. Perhaps the slot on the bridge for your E
string has a sharp edge to it where the string passes over it that is
causing a problem.
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?
Definitely a problem in the bridge, nut or elsewhere. DA strings are
fine and don't break in that manner on a regular basis.
I use DA .11s and have zero problems.
Definitely a problem in the bridge, nut or elsewhere. DA strings are
fine and don't break in that manner on a regular basis.
I use DA .11s and have zero problems.
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?
Derek wrote:
> Definitely a problem in the bridge, nut or elsewhere. DA strings are
> fine and don't break in that manner on a regular basis.
>
> I use DA .11s and have zero problems.
I use DA .009s and have zero problems.
--
- Rufus
Derek wrote:
> Definitely a problem in the bridge, nut or elsewhere. DA strings are
> fine and don't break in that manner on a regular basis.
>
> I use DA .11s and have zero problems.
I use DA .009s and have zero problems.
--
- Rufus
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?
Also, check the tuning peg they can get burrs. Try looping the string back
aroung the tunning peg and hooking it around the string then winding so the
string hook is pulling on the string. Oh and throw your old pick away.
Also, check the tuning peg they can get burrs. Try looping the string back
aroung the tunning peg and hooking it around the string then winding so the
string hook is pulling on the string. Oh and throw your old pick away.
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?
On May 8, 12:05 pm, "D." <D...@nospamWe8ManU . com > wrote:
> Any Tips?
As others have said, check the bridge. Something is wrong. D'addarios
are good strings and shouldn't break like that. I use 9's (usually
Fender, sometimes D'addario) and I haven't broken a string in years.
- Rich
On May 8, 12:05 pm, "D." <D...@nospamWe8ManU . com > wrote:
> Any Tips?
As others have said, check the bridge. Something is wrong. D'addarios
are good strings and shouldn't break like that. I use 9's (usually
Fender, sometimes D'addario) and I haven't broken a string in years.
- Rich
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?
If its breaking at the frets like you said then stop being a dick and
trying to break them.
"D." <D@nospamWe8ManU . com > wrote in message
news:GxFUj.30052$_k2.23337@newsfe11.ams2...
> Helo I've played guitar for many a year on and off. I recently found that
> my top E bending is too flat - I bend a semitione fine, but the tone bend
> is flat. I have been practising bending up and managed to snap 7 Top E
> strings in the last two weeks! I use gague 10 - 42 D'addario. A new string
> is fitted and barely has time to bed in before it snaps too. I estimate
> that any one string seems to manage 20 whole tone bends before snapping. I
> check with a digital tuner 440 Hz and I am not bending too sharp.
>
> Any Tips?
>
> D.
>
If its breaking at the frets like you said then stop being a dick and
trying to break them.
"D." <D@nospamWe8ManU . com > wrote in message
news:GxFUj.30052$_k2.23337@newsfe11.ams2...
> Helo I've played guitar for many a year on and off. I recently found that
> my top E bending is too flat - I bend a semitione fine, but the tone bend
> is flat. I have been practising bending up and managed to snap 7 Top E
> strings in the last two weeks! I use gague 10 - 42 D'addario. A new string
> is fitted and barely has time to bed in before it snaps too. I estimate
> that any one string seems to manage 20 whole tone bends before snapping. I
> check with a digital tuner 440 Hz and I am not bending too sharp.
>
> Any Tips?
>
> D.
>
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?
Keith Adams <keithadams@socal.rr . com > wrote:
> If its breaking at the frets like you said then stop being a dick and
> trying to break them.
Better yet, be like Keith and don't play at all! What an asswipe
response.
Keith Adams <keithadams@socal.rr . com > wrote:
> If its breaking at the frets like you said then stop being a dick and
> trying to break them.
Better yet, be like Keith and don't play at all! What an asswipe
response.
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?
"RichL" <rpleavitt@yahoo . com > wrote in message
news:_PJUj.25705$aA1.16775@trnddc05...
> Keith Adams <keithadams@socal.rr . com > wrote:
>> If its breaking at the frets like you said then stop being a dick and
>> trying to break them.
>
> Better yet, be like Keith and don't play at all! What an asswipe
> response.
>
He sent me this by e-mail:
Quote
Me the dick? You're the stupid motherfucker whose somehow busting strings in
the middle of the neck. As a matter of fact your whole post was moronic.
Its pysically impossible for you or any other human being to break a guitar
string in the middle of the neck just by finger pressure. That being said
your problem lies elsewhere and its probably obvious. You're just too
goshdamned stupid to figure it out yourself.
Adams
Unquote.
I think he needs to get out more.
D.
"RichL" <rpleavitt@yahoo . com > wrote in message
news:_PJUj.25705$aA1.16775@trnddc05...
> Keith Adams <keithadams@socal.rr . com > wrote:
>> If its breaking at the frets like you said then stop being a dick and
>> trying to break them.
>
> Better yet, be like Keith and don't play at all! What an asswipe
> response.
>
He sent me this by e-mail:
Quote
Me the dick? You're the stupid motherfucker whose somehow busting strings in
the middle of the neck. As a matter of fact your whole post was moronic.
Its pysically impossible for you or any other human being to break a guitar
string in the middle of the neck just by finger pressure. That being said
your problem lies elsewhere and its probably obvious. You're just too
goshdamned stupid to figure it out yourself.
Adams
Unquote.
I think he needs to get out more.
D.
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?
D. wrote:
> "RichL" <rpleavitt@yahoo . com > wrote in message
> news:_PJUj.25705$aA1.16775@trnddc05...
>> Keith Adams <keithadams@socal.rr . com > wrote:
>>> If its breaking at the frets like you said then stop being a dick
>>> and trying to break them.
>>
>> Better yet, be like Keith and don't play at all! What an asswipe
>> response.
>>
>
> He sent me this by e-mail:
>
> Quote
> Me the dick? You're the stupid motherfucker whose somehow busting
> strings in the middle of the neck. As a matter of fact your whole
> post was moronic. Its pysically impossible for you or any other
> human being to break a guitar string in the middle of the neck just
> by finger pressure. That being said your problem lies elsewhere and
> its probably obvious. You're just too goshdamned stupid to figure it
> out yourself.
> Adams
>
> Unquote.
>
> I think he needs to get out more.
He sent you that to your email?
What a sweet guy he is.
--
Jeff
* tinyurl . com /5zocvm
w w w .myspace . com /thejackcolumbus
D. wrote:
> "RichL" <rpleavitt@yahoo . com > wrote in message
> news:_PJUj.25705$aA1.16775@trnddc05...
>> Keith Adams <keithadams@socal.rr . com > wrote:
>>> If its breaking at the frets like you said then stop being a dick
>>> and trying to break them.
>>
>> Better yet, be like Keith and don't play at all! What an asswipe
>> response.
>>
>
> He sent me this by e-mail:
>
> Quote
> Me the dick? You're the stupid motherfucker whose somehow busting
> strings in the middle of the neck. As a matter of fact your whole
> post was moronic. Its pysically impossible for you or any other
> human being to break a guitar string in the middle of the neck just
> by finger pressure. That being said your problem lies elsewhere and
> its probably obvious. You're just too goshdamned stupid to figure it
> out yourself.
> Adams
>
> Unquote.
>
> I think he needs to get out more.
He sent you that to your email?
What a sweet guy he is.
--
Jeff
* tinyurl . com /5zocvm
w w w .myspace . com /thejackcolumbus
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?
On Sat, 10 May 2008 16:27:26 +0100, D. wrote:
>
> "RichL" <rpleavitt@yahoo . com > wrote in message
> news:_PJUj.25705$aA1.16775@trnddc05...
>> Keith Adams <keithadams@socal.rr . com > wrote:
>>> If its breaking at the frets like you said then stop being a dick and
>>> trying to break them.
>>
>> Better yet, be like Keith and don't play at all! What an asswipe
>> response.
>>
>
> He sent me this by e-mail:
>
> Quote
> Me the dick? You're the stupid motherfucker whose somehow busting strings in
> the middle of the neck. As a matter of fact your whole post was moronic.
> Its pysically impossible for you or any other human being to break a guitar
> string in the middle of the neck just by finger pressure. That being said
> your problem lies elsewhere and its probably obvious. You're just too
> goshdamned stupid to figure it out yourself.
>
> Adams
>
> Unquote.
>
> I think he needs to get out more.
>
Keith is the quintessential news group asshole. I would send him a note
back and warn him against any further email harassment. It's
unconscionable sending someone email over posts in a public news group.
Just when I thought Keefy could go no lower he comes up with this shit.
On Sat, 10 May 2008 16:27:26 +0100, D. wrote:
>
> "RichL" <rpleavitt@yahoo . com > wrote in message
> news:_PJUj.25705$aA1.16775@trnddc05...
>> Keith Adams <keithadams@socal.rr . com > wrote:
>>> If its breaking at the frets like you said then stop being a dick and
>>> trying to break them.
>>
>> Better yet, be like Keith and don't play at all! What an asswipe
>> response.
>>
>
> He sent me this by e-mail:
>
> Quote
> Me the dick? You're the stupid motherfucker whose somehow busting strings in
> the middle of the neck. As a matter of fact your whole post was moronic.
> Its pysically impossible for you or any other human being to break a guitar
> string in the middle of the neck just by finger pressure. That being said
> your problem lies elsewhere and its probably obvious. You're just too
> goshdamned stupid to figure it out yourself.
>
> Adams
>
> Unquote.
>
> I think he needs to get out more.
>
Keith is the quintessential news group asshole. I would send him a note
back and warn him against any further email harassment. It's
unconscionable sending someone email over posts in a public news group.
Just when I thought Keefy could go no lower he comes up with this shit.
