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Homerecording and pod

Reply from: RK
Date: 09 May 2008, 19:19
Homerecording and pod

I'm doing homerecording with my vintage strat via M-audio 410 and a zoom g2.
Generally I'm fond of the G2's many possibilities, but I feel some
brilliance is lost in the G2. Is it my setup or is this common? Are other
guitar pods better in this respect?



Reply from: The Chris
Date: 09 May 2008, 19:40
Re: Homerecording and pod

"RK" <at@at.at> wrote in news:4824877e$0$15873$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk:

> I'm doing homerecording with my vintage strat via M-audio 410 and a zoom
g2.
> Generally I'm fond of the G2's many possibilities, but I feel some
> brilliance is lost in the G2. Is it my setup or is this common? Are other
> guitar pods better in this respect?
>
>
>

Depends on the sounds and how you use it.. I've done 3 CD's with my POD -
from twangy country to metal...... I think I have a lot of zip.

I've never talked to anybody with the Zooms that liked them...

Reply from: Gamma Ray Bursts U
Date: 09 May 2008, 19:06
Re: Home recording and pod

The Chris wrote:
> "RK" <at@at.at> wrote in news:4824877e$0$15873$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk:
>
>> I'm doing homerecording with my vintage strat via M-audio 410 and a zoom
> g2.
>> Generally I'm fond of the G2's many possibilities, but I feel some
>> brilliance is lost in the G2. Is it my setup or is this common? Are other
>> guitar pods better in this respect?
>>
>>
>>
>
> Depends on the sounds and how you use it.. I've done 3 CD's with my POD -
> from twangy country to metal...... I think I have a lot of zip.
>
> I've never talked to anybody with the Zooms that liked them...

Me either- the GFX-8 was an anomaly and I'm delighted to have found it. mvm

Reply from: The Chris
Date: 09 May 2008, 21:35
Re: Home recording and pod

Gamma Ray Bursts U <shoran-56718@nospammomypacks . net > wrote in
news:NsWdnf5MJvFOPbnVnZ2dnUVZ_qzinZ2d@giganews . com :

> The Chris wrote:
>> "RK" <at@at.at> wrote in news:4824877e$0$15873
$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk:
>>
>>> I'm doing homerecording with my vintage strat via M-audio 410 and a zoom
>> g2.
>>> Generally I'm fond of the G2's many possibilities, but I feel some
>>> brilliance is lost in the G2. Is it my setup or is this common? Are other
>>> guitar pods better in this respect?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Depends on the sounds and how you use it.. I've done 3 CD's with my POD -
>> from twangy country to metal...... I think I have a lot of zip.
>>
>> I've never talked to anybody with the Zooms that liked them...
>
> Me either- the GFX-8 was an anomaly and I'm delighted to have found it. mvm
>

I've always been interested in that AdrenaLINN, but, have never actually
seen, or talked to anybody with one.

Reply from: RK
Date: 09 May 2008, 20:09
Re: Homerecording and pod




"The Chris" <cabell@nospam.hotmail . com > skrev i en meddelelse
news:Xns9A998B288FB9121740@64.209.0.83...
> "RK" <at@at.at> wrote in
> news:4824877e$0$15873$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk:
>
>> I'm doing homerecording with my vintage strat via M-audio 410 and a zoom
> g2.
>> Generally I'm fond of the G2's many possibilities, but I feel some
>> brilliance is lost in the G2. Is it my setup or is this common? Are other
>> guitar pods better in this respect?
>>
>>
>>
>
> Depends on the sounds and how you use it.. I've done 3 CD's with my POD -
> from twangy country to metal...... I think I have a lot of zip.
>
> I've never talked to anybody with the Zooms that liked them...

Your last sentence is interresting, which pod would you recommend?



Reply from: The Chris
Date: 09 May 2008, 20:46
Re: Homerecording and pod

"RK" <at@at.at> wrote in news:48249344$0$15888$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk:

>
>
>
> "The Chris" <cabell@nospam.hotmail . com > skrev i en meddelelse
> news:Xns9A998B288FB9121740@64.209.0.83...
>> "RK" <at@at.at> wrote in
>> news:4824877e$0$15873$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk:
>>
>>> I'm doing homerecording with my vintage strat via M-audio 410 and a zoom
>> g2.
>>> Generally I'm fond of the G2's many possibilities, but I feel some
>>> brilliance is lost in the G2. Is it my setup or is this common? Are other
>>> guitar pods better in this respect?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Depends on the sounds and how you use it.. I've done 3 CD's with my POD -
>> from twangy country to metal...... I think I have a lot of zip.
>>
>> I've never talked to anybody with the Zooms that liked them...
>
> Your last sentence is interresting, which pod would you recommend?
>
>
>

I haven't heard any of the new ones - mainly because they add things that I'd
rather use rack effects for... All I require from a guitar direct box are
usable distortions and cleans, and the whole *direct* part.

As I said - I still use a 2.0 - but, I know people with the Lives, and
XT's....


Reply from: Monster Zero
Date: 09 May 2008, 20:20
Re: Homerecording and pod


"The Chris" <cabell@nospam.hotmail . com > wrote in message
news:Xns9A998B288FB9121740@64.209.0.83...
> "RK" <at@at.at> wrote in
> news:4824877e$0$15873$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk:
>
>> I'm doing homerecording with my vintage strat via M-audio 410 and a zoom
> g2.
>> Generally I'm fond of the G2's many possibilities, but I feel some
>> brilliance is lost in the G2. Is it my setup or is this common? Are other
>> guitar pods better in this respect?
>>
>>
>>
>
> Depends on the sounds and how you use it.. I've done 3 CD's with my POD -
> from twangy country to metal...... I think I have a lot of zip.
>
> I've never talked to anybody with the Zooms that liked them...

Ahhh I love my Zoom G2. Been using it for 3 years now and it's awesome. The
PODS IMO are overpriced for what they do.



Reply from: dvaoa
Date: 09 May 2008, 20:46
Re: Homerecording and pod

On May 9, 2:20 pm, "Monster Zero" <some...@somewhere . com > wrote:
> "The Chris" <cab...@nospam.hotmail . com > wrote in message

> > I've never talked to anybody with the Zooms that liked them...
>
> Ahhh I love my Zoom G2. Been using it for 3 years now and it's awesome. The
> PODS IMO are overpriced for what they do.

I have a G2.1U and a POD 2.0. They're both good...for different
reasons. The Zoom G's are more of a supercharged mfx unit, whereas
the POD's are better on the amp modeling side. The G's amp sims are
voiced on the high gain side, so you'd have to tone down them down
quite a bit. Like anything else, the more time you spend tweaking...

-d

Reply from: MartinGibsonTaylor
Date: 09 May 2008, 20:44
Re: Homerecording and pod

On May 9, 12:19 pm, "RK" <a...@at.at> wrote:
> I'm doing homerecording with my vintage strat via M-audio 410 and a zoom g2.
> Generally I'm fond of the G2's many possibilities, but I feel some
> brilliance is lost in the G2. Is it my setup or is this common? Are other
> guitar pods better in this respect?

Short answer is the ZOOM G2 isn't up to par with other products such
as the Line 6 POD or even the current "DNA2" based DigiTech multi-
effects modeling processors. My experience with the G2 (and 505 II) is
that with an inexpensive pair of ear buds or headphones where the EQ
and dynamic range is mush it sound tolerable and even at times
convincing, but as soon as you run it into a PA or run line in to a
mixer for recording it's weakness and artificial nature are exposed. I
highly recommend the newer DigiTech RP70 or RP90 processors (stay away
from DigiTechs older models) you can hear a demo of the RP70 and RP90
sounds here:

* w w w .digitech . com /products/RP90/RP70RP90 Demo.php

Having purchased an RP70 two months ago and having used it on three
recordings now (similar setup to yours, RP70 into M-Audio interface
into Notebook PC, I can tell you the sounds you hear in the demo at
the link above is EXACTLY what you can expect to be able to capture,
while it's far from perfect (all modeling is) it puts the G2 to shame.
Another option is the Pocket POD or a full sized POD. Line 6's
technology is probably the top of the line, it's use by studio
musicians daily.

BTW I say all this having been a fan of ZOOM processors and having
followed the companies technology for many years. I own several of
their products, including a 505 II, G2 and ZOOM 5000 Driver pedal.
Zoom has deteriorated from a high-end brand to a maker of budget-end
products, known more for their rhythm machines and digital recorders
than guitar effects these days, which is sad to me because years
before Line 6 brought respected amp modeling to the forefront, the
ZOOM 5000 Driver offered a convincing solid-state, high gain stack
modeling sound for combos.

In general, the quality of the current crop of ZOOM effects processors
(even the G2) aren't finding much respect, endorsement or publicized
use by professional musicians. While ZOOM had a brief period of pro
endorsements with their 9000 series multi-effects by Bon Jovi
guitarist Richie Sambora and others none of these guys are stating
they use these processors in the studio, Sambora has said he likes to
use his ZOOM for headphone jamming, I imagine he's getting paid well
for the endorsement.


Reply from: jtees4
Date: 09 May 2008, 22:44
Re: Homerecording and pod

On Fri, 9 May 2008 19:19:01 +0200, "RK" <at@at.at> wrote:

>I'm doing homerecording with my vintage strat via M-audio 410 and a zoom g2.
>Generally I'm fond of the G2's many possibilities, but I feel some
>brilliance is lost in the G2. Is it my setup or is this common? Are other
>guitar pods better in this respect?
>

I ue my POD XT for recording. Don't use it live, but it's great for
recording.

***********
Please help me out--REVIEW someone's song at:
* reviewmymusic.blogspot . com /

Reply from: RK
Date: 10 May 2008, 18:24
Re: Homerecording and pod


"jtees4" <jtees4@hotmail . com > skrev i en meddelelse
news:trd9249gbjgkc2ptffs3ua4rn5sttbmk7k@4ax . com ...
> On Fri, 9 May 2008 19:19:01 +0200, "RK" <at@at.at> wrote:
>
>>I'm doing homerecording with my vintage strat via M-audio 410 and a zoom
>>g2.
>>Generally I'm fond of the G2's many possibilities, but I feel some
>>brilliance is lost in the G2. Is it my setup or is this common? Are other
>>guitar pods better in this respect?
>>
>
> I ue my POD XT for recording. Don't use it live, but it's great for
> recording.

Most of the Pods I've tried have lots of settings for heavy metal etc.
Many distorted sounds, but I also need a clean sound for Shadows like
music. Can any Pod give me this as well?



Reply from: jtees4
Date: 10 May 2008, 19:50
Re: Homerecording and pod

On Sat, 10 May 2008 18:24:43 +0200, "RK" <at@at.at> wrote:

>
>"jtees4" <jtees4@hotmail . com > skrev i en meddelelse
>news:trd9249gbjgkc2ptffs3ua4rn5sttbmk7k@4ax . com ...
>> On Fri, 9 May 2008 19:19:01 +0200, "RK" <at@at.at> wrote:
>>
>>>I'm doing homerecording with my vintage strat via M-audio 410 and a zoom
>>>g2.
>>>Generally I'm fond of the G2's many possibilities, but I feel some
>>>brilliance is lost in the G2. Is it my setup or is this common? Are other
>>>guitar pods better in this respect?
>>>
>>
>> I ue my POD XT for recording. Don't use it live, but it's great for
>> recording.
>
> Most of the Pods I've tried have lots of settings for heavy metal etc.
>Many distorted sounds, but I also need a clean sound for Shadows like
>music. Can any Pod give me this as well?
>

I have not had the POD long, but I think pretty much every sound is in
there...but it takes a lot of tweaking and the learning curve (for an
old guy like me) is pretty long.

***********
Some of my music:
* w w w .soundclick . com /bands/default.cfm?bandID=789610

Reply from: Meat Plow
Date: 10 May 2008, 19:55
Re: Homerecording and pod

On Fri, 09 May 2008 19:19:01 +0200, RK wrote:

> I'm doing homerecording with my vintage strat via M-audio 410 and a zoom g2.
> Generally I'm fond of the G2's many possibilities, but I feel some
> brilliance is lost in the G2. Is it my setup or is this common? Are other
> guitar pods better in this respect?

Some of the brilliance needs to be lost for an overall good mixture of
instruments and vocals. I do computer recording using an E-Mu 4x4 sound
card and Abelton Live 7 and some filtering on the guitar tracks is
required. You probably should as I have, listen to a variety of recording
artists and genre and experience just how those that do the recording
production assembly the product.






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