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Divas and rehersal no shows

Reply from: jthread
Date: 12 May 2008, 17:36
Divas and rehersal no shows

We have/had a great female vocalist.

We all agree that rehersal is 1:30 Sunday afternoon. I heard my brother tell
her 1:30 Sunday the week before.

This Sunday the singer doesn't show. We all just thought some head hunter
stole her. I sent her an email this morning wishing her well.

She emails me back saying "I told you guys I may not be there because of
mother's day". She said we must of been drunk. (not true!)

I didn't hear it and neither did anyone else. She has had communication
problems before but I don't recall her doing a no-show.

The rest of the band thinks she is an OK singer I think she is fantastic.

What would you guys do? I'm letting the rest of the guys decide but I'm
really on the fence. As the de facto "bandleader" I make final decisions.

I live in Austin where talent is coming out of the woodwork. I can get
another talented singer fast but I've already spent a lot of time with her
and she's really coming along. She is short, not unattractive, but kind of
overweight. Her personality makes up for her "short" comings if you know
what I mean.

OTOH: I got my new PC up and running. Fast!! I kind of like Vista so far.

Jim


Reply from: RichCI
Date: 12 May 2008, 18:19
Re: Divas and rehersal no shows

On May 12, 11:36 am, "jthread" <jethr...@att . net > wrote:
> We have/had a great female vocalist.
>
> We all agree that rehersal is 1:30 Sunday afternoon. I heard my brother tell
> her 1:30 Sunday the week before.
>
> This Sunday the singer doesn't show. We all just thought some head hunter
> stole her. I sent her an email this morning wishing her well.
>
> She emails me back saying "I told you guys I may not be there because of
> mother's day". She said we must of been drunk. (not true!)
>
> I didn't hear it and neither did anyone else. She has had communication
> problems before but I don't recall her doing a no-show.
>
> The rest of the band thinks she is an OK singer I think she is fantastic.
>
> What would you guys do? I'm letting the rest of the guys decide but I'm
> really on the fence. As the de facto "bandleader" I make final decisions.
>
> I live in Austin where talent is coming out of the woodwork. I can get
> another talented singer fast but I've already spent a lot of time with her
> and she's really coming along. She is short, not unattractive, but kind of
> overweight. Her personality makes up for her "short" comings if you know
> what I mean.
>
> OTOH: I got my new PC up and running. Fast!! I kind of like Vista so far.
>
> Jim



I'd give her the benefit of the doubt considering it was Mother's Day
and you guys hold your rehearsals in the middle of the day; I was out
to lunch with my mother and the rest of my family at that time on
Sunday. If her not showing up becomes a habit, then can her.

Reply from: Derek
Date: 12 May 2008, 18:38
Re: Divas and rehersal no shows

RichCI wrote:
>
> I'd give her the benefit of the doubt considering it was Mother's Day
> and you guys hold your rehearsals in the middle of the day; I was out
> to lunch with my mother and the rest of my family at that time on
> Sunday.  If her not showing up becomes a habit, then can her

I agree.

Reply from: jtees4
Date: 12 May 2008, 19:59
Re: Divas and rehersal no shows

On Mon, 12 May 2008 15:36:52 GMT, "jthread" <jethread@att . net > wrote:

>We have/had a great female vocalist.
>
>We all agree that rehersal is 1:30 Sunday afternoon. I heard my brother tell
>her 1:30 Sunday the week before.
>
>This Sunday the singer doesn't show. We all just thought some head hunter
>stole her. I sent her an email this morning wishing her well.
>
>She emails me back saying "I told you guys I may not be there because of
>mother's day". She said we must of been drunk. (not true!)
>
>I didn't hear it and neither did anyone else. She has had communication
>problems before but I don't recall her doing a no-show.
>
>The rest of the band thinks she is an OK singer I think she is fantastic.
>
>What would you guys do? I'm letting the rest of the guys decide but I'm
>really on the fence. As the de facto "bandleader" I make final decisions.
>
>I live in Austin where talent is coming out of the woodwork. I can get
>another talented singer fast but I've already spent a lot of time with her
>and she's really coming along. She is short, not unattractive, but kind of
>overweight. Her personality makes up for her "short" comings if you know
>what I mean.
>
>OTOH: I got my new PC up and running. Fast!! I kind of like Vista so far.
>
>Jim
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Reply from: ythread
Date: 12 May 2008, 20:40
Re: Divas and rehersal no shows

Thanks for those who replied. I want to just move on but I'm afraid, when we
actually get a gig, she's going to say. It was "Halloween" or whatever. My
problem is I'm very ambitious and expect everyone else to be too. The most
important thing to me is music and always has been. To hell with Mother's
day. All's it means to me is it's hard to get into good restaurants.



Reply from: RichCI
Date: 12 May 2008, 20:50
Re: Divas and rehersal no shows

On May 12, 2:40 pm, "ythread" <ythr...@att . net > wrote:
> Thanks for those who replied. I want to just move on but I'm afraid, when we
> actually get a gig, she's going to say. It was "Halloween" or whatever. My
> problem is I'm very ambitious and expect everyone else to be too. The most
> important thing to me is music and always has been. To hell with Mother's
> day. All's it means to me is it's hard to get into good restaurants.


It's good that you're ambitious but, as the band leader (boss), you
have to keep in mind that people have lives outside of the band
(work). Mother's Day and other holidays are very important to people
and if you take that sort of stance with the folks in your band,
they're likely to get pissed and possibly leave and a revolving line
up will hold you up a lot more than one missed practice because of a
holiday.

Reply from: dugjustdug
Date: 12 May 2008, 21:00
Re: Divas and rehersal no shows

On May 12, 11:50 am, RichCI <ric...@gmail . com > wrote:
> On May 12, 2:40 pm, "ythread" <ythr...@att . net > wrote:
>
> > Thanks for those who replied. I want to just move on but I'm afraid, whe=
n we
> > actually get a gig, she's going to say. It was "Halloween" or whatever. =
My
> > problem is I'm very ambitious and expect everyone else to be too. The mo=
st
> > important thing to me is music and always has been. To hell with Mother'=
s
> > day. All's it means to me is it's hard to get into good restaurants.
>
> It's good that you're ambitious but, as the band leader (boss), you
> have to keep in mind that people have lives outside of the band
> (work).  Mother's Day and other holidays are very important to people
> and if you take that sort of stance with the folks in your band,
> they're likely to get pissed and possibly leave and a revolving line
> up will hold you up a lot more than one missed practice because of a
> holiday.

I'm sorta kinda with Rich on this one, jt. Right up until the point
that you notice a trend along these lines. Then, it's off to find
another who may be more committed to working within your expectations.
I hope she works out for you.

Reply from: Keith Adams
Date: 13 May 2008, 04:03
Re: Divas and rehersal no shows

Mothers Day is just another day the same as all others. I'd cut her slack on
it but she shouldnt have agreed to being there and then not show. How long
is practice? She could have done both. You should sit the whole band down
and tell them where you're at with music. If they're not as dedicated as you
are then you're just wasting your time with them. You may get a big
opportunity some day and they'll crawfish on you by backing out. Where will
that leave you? Shit outta luck. I've had it happen to me and its a
heartbreaker.
Opportunity knocks when you're not expecting it and you've got to be ready
to answer the door.

"dugjustdug" <prestigerealty@yvn . com > wrote in message
news:56873ad0-ca39-474f-a56d-8b5761a95d28@w4g2000prd.googlegroups . com ...
On May 12, 11:50 am, RichCI <ric...@gmail . com > wrote:
> On May 12, 2:40 pm, "ythread" <ythr...@att . net > wrote:
>
> > Thanks for those who replied. I want to just move on but I'm afraid,
> > when we
> > actually get a gig, she's going to say. It was "Halloween" or whatever.
> > My
> > problem is I'm very ambitious and expect everyone else to be too. The
> > most
> > important thing to me is music and always has been. To hell with
> > Mother's
> > day. All's it means to me is it's hard to get into good restaurants.
>
> It's good that you're ambitious but, as the band leader (boss), you
> have to keep in mind that people have lives outside of the band
> (work). Mother's Day and other holidays are very important to people
> and if you take that sort of stance with the folks in your band,
> they're likely to get pissed and possibly leave and a revolving line
> up will hold you up a lot more than one missed practice because of a
> holiday.

I'm sorta kinda with Rich on this one, jt. Right up until the point
that you notice a trend along these lines. Then, it's off to find
another who may be more committed to working within your expectations.
I hope she works out for you.



Reply from: ythread
Date: 13 May 2008, 07:43
Re: Divas and rehersal no shows


"Keith Adams" <keithadams@socal.rr . com > wrote in message
news:4828f786$0$12972$4c368faf@roadrunner . com ...
> Mothers Day is just another day the same as all others. I'd cut her slack
> on it but she shouldnt have agreed to being there and then not show. How
> long is practice? She could have done both. You should sit the whole band
> down and tell them where you're at with music. If they're not as dedicated
> as you are then you're just wasting your time with them. You may get a big
> opportunity some day and they'll crawfish on you by backing out. Where
> will that leave you? Shit outta luck. I've had it happen to me and its a
> heartbreaker.
> Opportunity knocks when you're not expecting it and you've got to be ready
> to answer the door.
>
>
shit i hate it when i agree with you.



Reply from: rct
Date: 12 May 2008, 21:13
Re: Divas and rehersal no shows

ythread wrote:


> Thanks for those who replied. I want to just move on but I'm afraid, when we
> actually get a gig, she's going to say. It was "Halloween" or whatever. My
> problem is I'm very ambitious and expect everyone else to be too. The most
> important thing to me is music and always has been. To hell with Mother's
> day. All's it means to me is it's hard to get into good restaurants.

Get over yerself. It's just a band. And I really do mean that
nicely. At this rate you are going to eventually, and definitely,
suck the life out of it for everyone else. Just my experience.

rct


Reply from: jthread
Date: 12 May 2008, 22:05
Re: Divas and rehersal no shows


"rct" <Ron.Thompson@faa.gov> wrote in message
news:d3a333e1-8f92-455c-998f-364e3e3a0ddd@b9g2000prh.googlegroups . com ...
> ythread wrote:
>
>
>> Thanks for those who replied. I want to just move on but I'm afraid, when
>> we
>> actually get a gig, she's going to say. It was "Halloween" or whatever.
>> My
>> problem is I'm very ambitious and expect everyone else to be too. The
>> most
>> important thing to me is music and always has been. To hell with Mother's
>> day. All's it means to me is it's hard to get into good restaurants.
>
> Get over yerself. It's just a band. And I really do mean that
> nicely. At this rate you are going to eventually, and definitely,
> suck the life out of it for everyone else. Just my experience.
>
> rct
>
i have to admit u got a chuckle out of me on that one. i think you may have
hit the nail-on-the-head


Reply from: Derek
Date: 12 May 2008, 23:02
Re: Divas and rehersal no shows

It is a tough thing to balance being focused on excellence and having
fun at the same time.

People join bands for a wide variety of reasons, and sometimes they
are very different within the same band.

We all have a jones for playing/performing, but if it is not fun and
becomes a drag, who the heck wants to be a part of that?

We all have full time jobs we have to put up with, so unless you are
planning on becoming the next big thing, I would suggest you mention
the two goals of the band being very tight musically and fun.

Maybe free drinks and getting laid are goals for others, but for me,
if the band is not focused on being really good, I lose interest. The
flip side is, if it is not fun, and just focused, intense work, thanks
anyway, I have a day job for that.

Good luck

Reply from: Les Cargill
Date: 13 May 2008, 00:37
Re: Divas and rehersal no shows

rct wrote:
> ythread wrote:
>
>
>> Thanks for those who replied. I want to just move on but I'm afraid, when we
>> actually get a gig, she's going to say. It was "Halloween" or whatever. My
>> problem is I'm very ambitious and expect everyone else to be too. The most
>> important thing to me is music and always has been. To hell with Mother's
>> day. All's it means to me is it's hard to get into good restaurants.
>
> Get over yerself. It's just a band. And I really do mean that
> nicely. At this rate you are going to eventually, and definitely,
> suck the life out of it for everyone else. Just my experience.
>
> rct
>


Well, there's always recording stuff in the basement.
(seriously, there is. I have had to fire myself for not showing
up for that.... but I always hire me back... )

--
Les Cargill

Reply from: dugjustdug
Date: 13 May 2008, 00:51
Re: Divas and rehersal no shows

On May 12, 3:37 pm, Les Cargill <lcarg...@cfl.rr . com > wrote:
> Well, there's always recording stuff in the basement.
> (seriously, there is. I have had to fire myself for not showing
> up for that....  but I always hire me back...  )
>
> --
> Les Cargill-

You must like your work then. ;-)

Reply from: Les Cargill
Date: 13 May 2008, 02:59
Re: Divas and rehersal no shows

dugjustdug wrote:
> On May 12, 3:37 pm, Les Cargill <lcarg...@cfl.rr . com > wrote:
>> Well, there's always recording stuff in the basement.
>> (seriously, there is. I have had to fire myself for not showing
>> up for that.... but I always hire me back... )
>>
>> --
>> Les Cargill-
>
> You must like your work then. ;-)


No. I'm just cheap.

--
Les Cargill


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