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OT: Ringo's drumming
HBO has an interview with Ringo Star running this month
and is worth a peek!
One of the reason(s) he is such a clumsy (looking) player
( and even sounding ) drummer is he is left handed by birth,
raised right handed in public school, and plays a
right handed drum kit.
But since he is still left hand dominated , he plays
drums *backwards* ... It's really funny to
see him explain how he compensates by showing riding the
hi-hat .. then having to do a roll around the toms ..
backwards .. ( Hint: His wrists are crossed over at the
wrong period ).
It is this quirkiness he picked up while learning to drum
in a right/left handed period growing up
and he has never broken the bad habit(s).
It's equivalent to some degree I guess
for a leftie playing a right hand guitar strung
as a right-handed guitar!
HBO has an interview with Ringo Star running this month
and is worth a peek!
One of the reason(s) he is such a clumsy (looking) player
( and even sounding ) drummer is he is left handed by birth,
raised right handed in public school, and plays a
right handed drum kit.
But since he is still left hand dominated , he plays
drums *backwards* ... It's really funny to
see him explain how he compensates by showing riding the
hi-hat .. then having to do a roll around the toms ..
backwards .. ( Hint: His wrists are crossed over at the
wrong period ).
It is this quirkiness he picked up while learning to drum
in a right/left handed period growing up
and he has never broken the bad habit(s).
It's equivalent to some degree I guess
for a leftie playing a right hand guitar strung
as a right-handed guitar!
Re: Ringo's drumming
WB <WB@here,com > wrote:
> HBO has an interview with Ringo Star running this month
> and is worth a peek!
>
>
> One of the reason(s) he is such a clumsy (looking) player
> ( and even sounding ) drummer is he is left handed by birth,
> raised right handed in public school, and plays a
> right handed drum kit.
>
> But since he is still left hand dominated , he plays
> drums *backwards* ... It's really funny to
> see him explain how he compensates by showing riding the
> hi-hat .. then having to do a roll around the toms ..
> backwards .. ( Hint: His wrists are crossed over at the
> wrong period ).
>
> It is this quirkiness he picked up while learning to drum
> in a right/left handed period growing up
> and he has never broken the bad habit(s).
>
> It's equivalent to some degree I guess
> for a leftie playing a right hand guitar strung
> as a right-handed guitar!
There are probably some similarities. But I'd dispute the
characterization that Ringo sounds clumsy. His style is vastly
different from Moon or Bonham, but he's an excellent drummer whose style
helped make the Beatles what they were.
WB <WB@here,com > wrote:
> HBO has an interview with Ringo Star running this month
> and is worth a peek!
>
>
> One of the reason(s) he is such a clumsy (looking) player
> ( and even sounding ) drummer is he is left handed by birth,
> raised right handed in public school, and plays a
> right handed drum kit.
>
> But since he is still left hand dominated , he plays
> drums *backwards* ... It's really funny to
> see him explain how he compensates by showing riding the
> hi-hat .. then having to do a roll around the toms ..
> backwards .. ( Hint: His wrists are crossed over at the
> wrong period ).
>
> It is this quirkiness he picked up while learning to drum
> in a right/left handed period growing up
> and he has never broken the bad habit(s).
>
> It's equivalent to some degree I guess
> for a leftie playing a right hand guitar strung
> as a right-handed guitar!
There are probably some similarities. But I'd dispute the
characterization that Ringo sounds clumsy. His style is vastly
different from Moon or Bonham, but he's an excellent drummer whose style
helped make the Beatles what they were.
Re: Ringo's drumming
RichL wrote:
> There are probably some similarities. But I'd dispute the
> characterization that Ringo sounds clumsy.
The sound is clumsy ... he admits he misses beats (crashes, snare/tom),
or actually is *late* on strokes because his hands/wrists are in the
wrong positions all the time ! Then there is the infamous shoulder
*shrug* where he flips the sticks to accommodates a change in drum pattern.
I never really paid attention much to drummers, or Ringo ...
you know .. they don't even have a usenet group to defend
themselves ...
A picture is worth 10000 drumming words.. to watch him
explain it is a hoot.
RichL wrote:
> There are probably some similarities. But I'd dispute the
> characterization that Ringo sounds clumsy.
The sound is clumsy ... he admits he misses beats (crashes, snare/tom),
or actually is *late* on strokes because his hands/wrists are in the
wrong positions all the time ! Then there is the infamous shoulder
*shrug* where he flips the sticks to accommodates a change in drum pattern.
I never really paid attention much to drummers, or Ringo ...
you know .. they don't even have a usenet group to defend
themselves ...
A picture is worth 10000 drumming words.. to watch him
explain it is a hoot.
Re: Ringo's drumming
> There are probably some similarities. But I'd dispute the
> characterization that Ringo sounds clumsy. His style is vastly
> different from Moon or Bonham, but he's an excellent drummer whose style
> helped make the Beatles what they were.- Hide quoted text -
I second that!
Mr Soul
> There are probably some similarities. But I'd dispute the
> characterization that Ringo sounds clumsy. His style is vastly
> different from Moon or Bonham, but he's an excellent drummer whose style
> helped make the Beatles what they were.- Hide quoted text -
I second that!
Mr Soul
Re: OT: Ringo's drumming
WB wrote:
> HBO has an interview with Ringo Star running this month
> and is worth a peek!
>
>
> One of the reason(s) he is such a clumsy (looking) player
> ( and even sounding ) drummer is he is left handed by birth,
> raised right handed in public school, and plays a
> right handed drum kit.
>
> But since he is still left hand dominated , he plays
> drums *backwards* ... It's really funny to
> see him explain how he compensates by showing riding the
> hi-hat .. then having to do a roll around the toms ..
> backwards .. ( Hint: His wrists are crossed over at the
> wrong period ).
>
> It is this quirkiness he picked up while learning to drum
> in a right/left handed period growing up
> and he has never broken the bad habit(s).
>
> It's equivalent to some degree I guess
> for a leftie playing a right hand guitar strung
> as a right-handed guitar!
>
Ringo reinvented rock drumming. I did not know it was like
that, but ... that's cool. It's always the mutants
that change things.
Not the zombies....wait a second... I gotta reload....
--
Les Cargill
WB wrote:
> HBO has an interview with Ringo Star running this month
> and is worth a peek!
>
>
> One of the reason(s) he is such a clumsy (looking) player
> ( and even sounding ) drummer is he is left handed by birth,
> raised right handed in public school, and plays a
> right handed drum kit.
>
> But since he is still left hand dominated , he plays
> drums *backwards* ... It's really funny to
> see him explain how he compensates by showing riding the
> hi-hat .. then having to do a roll around the toms ..
> backwards .. ( Hint: His wrists are crossed over at the
> wrong period ).
>
> It is this quirkiness he picked up while learning to drum
> in a right/left handed period growing up
> and he has never broken the bad habit(s).
>
> It's equivalent to some degree I guess
> for a leftie playing a right hand guitar strung
> as a right-handed guitar!
>
Ringo reinvented rock drumming. I did not know it was like
that, but ... that's cool. It's always the mutants
that change things.
Not the zombies....wait a second... I gotta reload....
--
Les Cargill
Re: Ringo's drumming
Ringo has taken flack over the years for not being a very good drummer. I
always thought that was non sense. All of the Beatles were good on their
instruments because they did their job. No more and no less. No long solos
or any other unnecessary BS. Their songs and music was great and they didnt
need to hide it or be carried by shredding.
"WB" <WB@here,com > wrote in message
news:482e627c$0$4071$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink,net ...
> HBO has an interview with Ringo Star running this month
> and is worth a peek!
>
>
> One of the reason(s) he is such a clumsy (looking) player
> ( and even sounding ) drummer is he is left handed by birth,
> raised right handed in public school, and plays a
> right handed drum kit.
>
> But since he is still left hand dominated , he plays
> drums *backwards* ... It's really funny to
> see him explain how he compensates by showing riding the
> hi-hat .. then having to do a roll around the toms ..
> backwards .. ( Hint: His wrists are crossed over at the
> wrong period ).
>
> It is this quirkiness he picked up while learning to drum
> in a right/left handed period growing up
> and he has never broken the bad habit(s).
>
> It's equivalent to some degree I guess
> for a leftie playing a right hand guitar strung
> as a right-handed guitar!
>
Ringo has taken flack over the years for not being a very good drummer. I
always thought that was non sense. All of the Beatles were good on their
instruments because they did their job. No more and no less. No long solos
or any other unnecessary BS. Their songs and music was great and they didnt
need to hide it or be carried by shredding.
"WB" <WB@here,com > wrote in message
news:482e627c$0$4071$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink,net ...
> HBO has an interview with Ringo Star running this month
> and is worth a peek!
>
>
> One of the reason(s) he is such a clumsy (looking) player
> ( and even sounding ) drummer is he is left handed by birth,
> raised right handed in public school, and plays a
> right handed drum kit.
>
> But since he is still left hand dominated , he plays
> drums *backwards* ... It's really funny to
> see him explain how he compensates by showing riding the
> hi-hat .. then having to do a roll around the toms ..
> backwards .. ( Hint: His wrists are crossed over at the
> wrong period ).
>
> It is this quirkiness he picked up while learning to drum
> in a right/left handed period growing up
> and he has never broken the bad habit(s).
>
> It's equivalent to some degree I guess
> for a leftie playing a right hand guitar strung
> as a right-handed guitar!
>
Re: Ringo's drumming
On Fri, 16 May 2008 22:22:37 -0700, "Keith Adams" <keithadams@socal.rr,com >
wrote:
>Ringo has taken flack over the years for not being a very good drummer. I
>always thought that was non sense. All of the Beatles were good on their
>instruments because they did their job. No more and no less. No long solos
>or any other unnecessary BS. Their songs and music was great and they didnt
>need to hide it or be carried by shredding.
Ringo: "We're not great musicians. Just adequate."
Reporter: "Then how do you explain your popularity?"
Ringo: "Maybe people like adequate music."
He was exactly the right guy for that band.
Then there was...
Reporter: "Do you think Ringo is the best drummer in the world?"
John: "He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles!"
On Fri, 16 May 2008 22:22:37 -0700, "Keith Adams" <keithadams@socal.rr,com >
wrote:
>Ringo has taken flack over the years for not being a very good drummer. I
>always thought that was non sense. All of the Beatles were good on their
>instruments because they did their job. No more and no less. No long solos
>or any other unnecessary BS. Their songs and music was great and they didnt
>need to hide it or be carried by shredding.
Ringo: "We're not great musicians. Just adequate."
Reporter: "Then how do you explain your popularity?"
Ringo: "Maybe people like adequate music."
He was exactly the right guy for that band.
Then there was...
Reporter: "Do you think Ringo is the best drummer in the world?"
John: "He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles!"
Re: Ringo's drumming
> Reporter: "Do you think Ringo is the best drummer in the world?"
> John: "He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles!"
******
John said this in sarcasm. I think the quote is more along the lines
of "apparently he's not even the best drummer in the Beatles". It was
directed at Paul, who had overdubbed a drum track onto a song they
were working on, might have been Back in the USSR.
Ringo's a fine drummer, listen to Rain, Strawberry Fields, A Day in
the Life. Not the flashiest player by any means, but I'd be proud to
be in a band with him. Listen to the drums to Come Together - it's
very simple and sparse, but can you imagine that song without those
drums? They add so much to the riff and what's going on.
> Reporter: "Do you think Ringo is the best drummer in the world?"
> John: "He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles!"
******
John said this in sarcasm. I think the quote is more along the lines
of "apparently he's not even the best drummer in the Beatles". It was
directed at Paul, who had overdubbed a drum track onto a song they
were working on, might have been Back in the USSR.
Ringo's a fine drummer, listen to Rain, Strawberry Fields, A Day in
the Life. Not the flashiest player by any means, but I'd be proud to
be in a band with him. Listen to the drums to Come Together - it's
very simple and sparse, but can you imagine that song without those
drums? They add so much to the riff and what's going on.
Re: Ringo's drumming
"iarwain" <iarwain_8@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:c181e5e9-70bb-45c6-b8d9-3d4dfd5d8684@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups,com ...
>> Reporter: "Do you think Ringo is the best drummer in the world?"
>> John: "He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles!"
>
> ******
>
> John said this in sarcasm. I think the quote is more along the lines
> of "apparently he's not even the best drummer in the Beatles". It was
> directed at Paul, who had overdubbed a drum track onto a song they
> were working on, might have been Back in the USSR.
>
> Ringo's a fine drummer, listen to Rain, Strawberry Fields, A Day in
> the Life. Not the flashiest player by any means, but I'd be proud to
> be in a band with him. Listen to the drums to Come Together - it's
> very simple and sparse, but can you imagine that song without those
> drums? They add so much to the riff and what's going on.
Paul's drumming was nowhere near Ringo's level of playing. Paul was little
better (or worse) than a drum track.
John was a sarcastic SOB. :-) God love em'
"iarwain" <iarwain_8@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:c181e5e9-70bb-45c6-b8d9-3d4dfd5d8684@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups,com ...
>> Reporter: "Do you think Ringo is the best drummer in the world?"
>> John: "He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles!"
>
> ******
>
> John said this in sarcasm. I think the quote is more along the lines
> of "apparently he's not even the best drummer in the Beatles". It was
> directed at Paul, who had overdubbed a drum track onto a song they
> were working on, might have been Back in the USSR.
>
> Ringo's a fine drummer, listen to Rain, Strawberry Fields, A Day in
> the Life. Not the flashiest player by any means, but I'd be proud to
> be in a band with him. Listen to the drums to Come Together - it's
> very simple and sparse, but can you imagine that song without those
> drums? They add so much to the riff and what's going on.
Paul's drumming was nowhere near Ringo's level of playing. Paul was little
better (or worse) than a drum track.
John was a sarcastic SOB. :-) God love em'
Re: Ringo's drumming
On Sat, 17 May 2008 18:29:37 GMT, "ythread" <ythread@att,net > wrote:
>
>Paul's drumming was nowhere near Ringo's level of playing. Paul was little
>better (or worse) than a drum track.
>
>John was a sarcastic SOB. :-) God love em'
John? Sarcastic?? Say it ain't so!
Brian: "What should I call my autobiography?"
John: "How about 'Queer Jew?'"
On Sat, 17 May 2008 18:29:37 GMT, "ythread" <ythread@att,net > wrote:
>
>Paul's drumming was nowhere near Ringo's level of playing. Paul was little
>better (or worse) than a drum track.
>
>John was a sarcastic SOB. :-) God love em'
John? Sarcastic?? Say it ain't so!
Brian: "What should I call my autobiography?"
John: "How about 'Queer Jew?'"
Re: OT: Ringo's drumming
WB wrote:
> It's equivalent to some degree I guess
> for a leftie playing a right hand guitar strung
> as a right-handed guitar!
That's exactly what I do, and it doesn't hinder me. I think he's just a
bad drummer.
WB wrote:
> It's equivalent to some degree I guess
> for a leftie playing a right hand guitar strung
> as a right-handed guitar!
That's exactly what I do, and it doesn't hinder me. I think he's just a
bad drummer.
Re: OT: Ringo's drumming
On May 17, 3:18 am, White Spirit <wspi...@homechoice.co.uk> wrote:
> WB wrote:
> > It's equivalent to some degree I guess
> > for a leftie playing a right hand guitar strung
> > as a right-handed guitar!
>
> That's exactly what I do, and it doesn't hinder me. I think he's just a
> bad drummer.
Your a bad left handed drummer ? or a leftie playing a flipped over
guitar ?
that is strung rightie ?
On May 17, 3:18 am, White Spirit <wspi...@homechoice.co.uk> wrote:
> WB wrote:
> > It's equivalent to some degree I guess
> > for a leftie playing a right hand guitar strung
> > as a right-handed guitar!
>
> That's exactly what I do, and it doesn't hinder me. I think he's just a
> bad drummer.
Your a bad left handed drummer ? or a leftie playing a flipped over
guitar ?
that is strung rightie ?
Re: OT: Ringo's drumming
"White Spirit" <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> wrote in message
news:g0m4cb$6j1$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> WB wrote:
>
>> It's equivalent to some degree I guess
>> for a leftie playing a right hand guitar strung
>> as a right-handed guitar!
Upside down... yeah. Doyle Bramhall does this,
right?
> That's exactly what I do, and it doesn't hinder me.
Ah... you'll have to prove that! Post us one on YT.
> I think he's just a bad drummer.
I don't think Neil Peart would have improved the
Beatles... Ringo was perfect.
Best things about Ringo... he didn't trade his drum
kit away for toys or booze and he showed up for
practice! This is a successful drummer IMO.
__
Steve
.
"White Spirit" <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> wrote in message
news:g0m4cb$6j1$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> WB wrote:
>
>> It's equivalent to some degree I guess
>> for a leftie playing a right hand guitar strung
>> as a right-handed guitar!
Upside down... yeah. Doyle Bramhall does this,
right?
> That's exactly what I do, and it doesn't hinder me.
Ah... you'll have to prove that! Post us one on YT.
> I think he's just a bad drummer.
I don't think Neil Peart would have improved the
Beatles... Ringo was perfect.
Best things about Ringo... he didn't trade his drum
kit away for toys or booze and he showed up for
practice! This is a successful drummer IMO.
__
Steve
.
Re: OT: Ringo's drumming
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
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>
> "White Spirit" <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:g0m4cb$6j1$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> WB wrote:
>>
>>> It's equivalent to some degree I guess
>>> for a leftie playing a right hand guitar strung
>>> as a right-handed guitar!
>
> Upside down... yeah. Doyle Bramhall does this,
> right?
>
>> That's exactly what I do, and it doesn't hinder me.
>
> Ah... you'll have to prove that! Post us one on YT.
>
>> I think he's just a bad drummer.
>
> I don't think Neil Peart would have improved the
> Beatles... Ringo was perfect.
>
> Best things about Ringo... he didn't trade his drum
> kit away for toys or booze and he showed up for
> practice! This is a successful drummer IMO.
> __
ringo did well and people don't hear a lot of how good he was, just what
they associate the beatles as being. think it was on 'her majesty' or
something on the same album ringo cut loose a bit. the beatles were a
restrained otufit mostly dominated be the egos of lennon and mccartny. gawd,
even their lead guitarist had little show.
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
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>
> "White Spirit" <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:g0m4cb$6j1$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> WB wrote:
>>
>>> It's equivalent to some degree I guess
>>> for a leftie playing a right hand guitar strung
>>> as a right-handed guitar!
>
> Upside down... yeah. Doyle Bramhall does this,
> right?
>
>> That's exactly what I do, and it doesn't hinder me.
>
> Ah... you'll have to prove that! Post us one on YT.
>
>> I think he's just a bad drummer.
>
> I don't think Neil Peart would have improved the
> Beatles... Ringo was perfect.
>
> Best things about Ringo... he didn't trade his drum
> kit away for toys or booze and he showed up for
> practice! This is a successful drummer IMO.
> __
ringo did well and people don't hear a lot of how good he was, just what
they associate the beatles as being. think it was on 'her majesty' or
something on the same album ringo cut loose a bit. the beatles were a
restrained otufit mostly dominated be the egos of lennon and mccartny. gawd,
even their lead guitarist had little show.
Re: OT: Ringo's drumming
Lead guitarists should play sparingly like George Harrison did. Any more
would have ruined their music just like it does everyone elses.
"Grinner" <grinner@nowhere,com > wrote in message
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>
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
> news:7yBXj.3739$ah4.2591@flpi148.ffdc.sbc,com ...
>>
>> "White Spirit" <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:g0m4cb$6j1$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>> WB wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's equivalent to some degree I guess
>>>> for a leftie playing a right hand guitar strung
>>>> as a right-handed guitar!
>>
>> Upside down... yeah. Doyle Bramhall does this,
>> right?
>>
>>> That's exactly what I do, and it doesn't hinder me.
>>
>> Ah... you'll have to prove that! Post us one on YT.
>>
>>> I think he's just a bad drummer.
>>
>> I don't think Neil Peart would have improved the
>> Beatles... Ringo was perfect.
>>
>> Best things about Ringo... he didn't trade his drum
>> kit away for toys or booze and he showed up for
>> practice! This is a successful drummer IMO.
>> __
>
> ringo did well and people don't hear a lot of how good he was, just what
> they associate the beatles as being. think it was on 'her majesty' or
> something on the same album ringo cut loose a bit. the beatles were a
> restrained otufit mostly dominated be the egos of lennon and mccartny.
> gawd, even their lead guitarist had little show.
>
>
Lead guitarists should play sparingly like George Harrison did. Any more
would have ruined their music just like it does everyone elses.
"Grinner" <grinner@nowhere,com > wrote in message
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>
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
> news:7yBXj.3739$ah4.2591@flpi148.ffdc.sbc,com ...
>>
>> "White Spirit" <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:g0m4cb$6j1$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>> WB wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's equivalent to some degree I guess
>>>> for a leftie playing a right hand guitar strung
>>>> as a right-handed guitar!
>>
>> Upside down... yeah. Doyle Bramhall does this,
>> right?
>>
>>> That's exactly what I do, and it doesn't hinder me.
>>
>> Ah... you'll have to prove that! Post us one on YT.
>>
>>> I think he's just a bad drummer.
>>
>> I don't think Neil Peart would have improved the
>> Beatles... Ringo was perfect.
>>
>> Best things about Ringo... he didn't trade his drum
>> kit away for toys or booze and he showed up for
>> practice! This is a successful drummer IMO.
>> __
>
> ringo did well and people don't hear a lot of how good he was, just what
> they associate the beatles as being. think it was on 'her majesty' or
> something on the same album ringo cut loose a bit. the beatles were a
> restrained otufit mostly dominated be the egos of lennon and mccartny.
> gawd, even their lead guitarist had little show.
>
>
