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How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?

Reply from: RichL
Date: 11 May 2008, 00:31
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?

D. <D@nospamWe8ManU,com > wrote:
> "RichL" <rpleavitt@yahoo,com > wrote in message
> news:_PJUj.25705$aA1.16775@trnddc05...
>> Keith Adams <keithadams@socal.rr,com > wrote:
>>> If its breaking at the frets like you said then stop being a dick
>>> and trying to break them.
>>
>> Better yet, be like Keith and don't play at all! What an asswipe
>> response.
>>
>
> He sent me this by e-mail:
>
> Quote
> Me the dick? You're the stupid motherfucker whose somehow busting
> strings in the middle of the neck. As a matter of fact your whole
> post was moronic. Its pysically impossible for you or any other
> human being to break a guitar string in the middle of the neck just
> by finger pressure. That being said your problem lies elsewhere and
> its probably obvious. You're just too goshdamned stupid to figure it
> out yourself.
>
> Adams
>
> Unquote.
>
> I think he needs to get out more.
>
> D.

Keith doesn't play guitar. He claims to build them, but although a
couple of people in the group have said good things about his guitars, I
just have a hard time seeing how someone so goddamned ignorant about
them could be successful at it.

As for the e-mail, that's way over the top. But knowing what I do about
Keith, he probably hit "reply" rather than "reply group" when he
responded from Outlook (I use Outlook too, and it's conceivable).
Usually when I hit that wrong button, it's immediately apparent to me.
Keith, I guess not so much.



Reply from: D.
Date: 11 May 2008, 10:01
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?


"RichL" <rpleavitt@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:GmpVj.347$lQ1.93@trnddc02...

>
> As for the e-mail, that's way over the top. But knowing what I do about
> Keith, he probably hit "reply" rather than "reply group" when he
> responded from Outlook (I use Outlook too, and it's conceivable).
> Usually when I hit that wrong button, it's immediately apparent to me.
> Keith, I guess not so much.
>
>
No - I think he he knew. Here's round 2:


Quote

I dont have pent up frustration. I have a girlfriend. I dont need a linguist
if a knob head like you can understand me. Take the blinders off of your
eyes and look at yourself. If you have a problem then thats where its
originating from. If you'll recall. You wrote to me and not the other way
around. If you want me to kiss your ass with a nice reply then you'd better
back off,jack off and take another stab at it somewhere else.
If you want to meet somewhere with each of us holding a pistol then let me
know? If you want to converse in a respectful manner thats fine. Give it a
try and I might surprise you.

Adams

Unquote


D.



Reply from: RichL
Date: 11 May 2008, 16:38
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?

D. <D@nospamWe8ManU,com > wrote:

> No - I think he he knew. Here's round 2:
>
> Quote
>
> I dont have pent up frustration. I have a girlfriend. I dont need a
> linguist if a knob head like you can understand me. Take the blinders
> off of your eyes and look at yourself. If you have a problem then
> thats where its originating from. If you'll recall. You wrote to me
> and not the other way around. If you want me to kiss your ass with a
> nice reply then you'd better back off,jack off and take another stab
> at it somewhere else. If you want to meet somewhere with each of us
> holding a pistol then let me know? If you want to converse in a
> respectful manner thats fine. Give it a try and I might surprise you.
>
> Adams

Did you actually e-mail him first? If so, you opened the door. If
not, then he really crossed the line.



Reply from: D.
Date: 11 May 2008, 20:44
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?


"RichL" <rpleavitt@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:yxDVj.2021$Uz2.583@trnddc06...
> D. <D@nospamWe8ManU,com > wrote:
>
>> No - I think he he knew. Here's round 2:
>>
>> Quote
>>
>> I dont have pent up frustration. I have a girlfriend. I dont need a
>> linguist if a knob head like you can understand me. Take the blinders
>> off of your eyes and look at yourself. If you have a problem then
>> thats where its originating from. If you'll recall. You wrote to me
>> and not the other way around. If you want me to kiss your ass with a
>> nice reply then you'd better back off,jack off and take another stab
>> at it somewhere else. If you want to meet somewhere with each of us
>> holding a pistol then let me know? If you want to converse in a
>> respectful manner thats fine. Give it a try and I might surprise you.
>>
>> Adams
>
> Did you actually e-mail him first? If so, you opened the door. If
> not, then he really crossed the line.
>
>
No, I didn't e-mail him first.

D.



Reply from: Gamma Ray Bursts U
Date: 11 May 2008, 20:36
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?

D. wrote:
> "RichL" <rpleavitt@yahoo,com > wrote in message
> news:GmpVj.347$lQ1.93@trnddc02...
>
>> As for the e-mail, that's way over the top. But knowing what I do about
>> Keith, he probably hit "reply" rather than "reply group" when he
>> responded from Outlook (I use Outlook too, and it's conceivable).
>> Usually when I hit that wrong button, it's immediately apparent to me.
>> Keith, I guess not so much.
>>
>>
> No - I think he he knew. Here's round 2:
>
>
> Quote
>
> I dont have pent up frustration. I have a girlfriend. I dont need a linguist
> if a knob head like you can understand me. Take the blinders off of your
> eyes and look at yourself. If you have a problem then thats where its
> originating from. If you'll recall. You wrote to me and not the other way
> around. If you want me to kiss your ass with a nice reply then you'd better
> back off,jack off and take another stab at it somewhere else.
> If you want to meet somewhere with each of us holding a pistol then let me
> know? If you want to converse in a respectful manner thats fine. Give it a
> try and I might surprise you.
>
> Adams
>
> Unquote
>
>
> D.
>
>
A+ :-)

Reply from: RichL
Date: 08 May 2008, 23:02
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?

D. <D@nospamWe8ManU,com > wrote:
> Helo I've played guitar for many a year on and off. I recently found
> that my top E bending is too flat - I bend a semitione fine, but the
> tone bend is flat. I have been practising bending up and managed to
> snap 7 Top E strings in the last two weeks! I use gague 10 - 42
> D'addario. A new string is fitted and barely has time to bed in
> before it snaps too. I estimate that any one string seems to manage
> 20 whole tone bends before snapping. I check with a digital tuner 440
> Hz and I am not bending too sharp.
>
> Any Tips?
>
> D.

Are the strings actually breaking where you're fretting them when you
bend? Or at the bridge, or the nut? This is not normal.

I use 10 - 52 gauge strings (Ernie Ball) and I routinely bend up to four
semitones. I can't remember the last time a string broke (it's at least
2 years ago). Bending a full tone "too sharp" won't cause this problem
if your guitar is OK otherwise.

If you can't pinpoint where the problem is by noting exactly where the
breakage occurs, take your guitar to a tech and explain the problem to
him. D'Addario are good-quality strings, and this shouldn't be
happening.



Reply from: Tony
Date: 09 May 2008, 01:23
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?

><snip> I use 10 - 52 gauge strings (Ernie Ball) and I routinely bend up to four
>semitones. I can't remember the last time a string broke (it's at least
>2 years ago).

Bending 4 semitones on the B or G string doesn't even bring the string stress up to the
same as an open E string, although the tension is higher due to the bigger diameter. If
you routinely bend 4-semitones on the E string, you're a superman. If it's on the B or G
string, it's irrelevant.

Reply from: RichL
Date: 09 May 2008, 02:28
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?

Tony <tony@nowhere,com .au> wrote:
>> <snip> I use 10 - 52 gauge strings (Ernie Ball) and I routinely bend
>> up to four semitones. I can't remember the last time a string broke
>> (it's at least 2 years ago).
>
> Bending 4 semitones on the B or G string doesn't even bring the
> string stress up to the same as an open E string, although the
> tension is higher due to the bigger diameter. If you routinely bend
> 4-semitones on the E string, you're a superman. If it's on the B or G
> string, it's irrelevant.

Believe me, I'm no superman ;-) (Science nerd geek is more like it.)
But I do practice those bends studiously. And I do them on every
string. The point is, the strings can handle it. They shouldn't be
breaking all the time.



Reply from: D.
Date: 09 May 2008, 19:18
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?


>> Any Tips?
>>
>> D.
>
> Are the strings actually breaking where you're fretting them when you
> bend? Or at the bridge, or the nut? This is not normal.
>
> I use 10 - 52 gauge strings (Ernie Ball) and I routinely bend up to four
> semitones. I can't remember the last time a string broke (it's at least
> 2 years ago). Bending a full tone "too sharp" won't cause this problem
> if your guitar is OK otherwise.
>
> If you can't pinpoint where the problem is by noting exactly where the
> breakage occurs, take your guitar to a tech and explain the problem to
> him. D'Addario are good-quality strings, and this shouldn't be
> happening.
>
>
They seem to be snapping under the finger creating the bend. The guitar is a
2005 USA series Strat. The only thing i can think of is that as the top of
the frets have become ever so slightly flattened with use over the last
couple of years, that this creates a 'corner' that may be sharp enough to
create a 'nick' or weakspot in the string as it is fretted then bent. This
is a bit far fetched though. Close inspection of the snapped end shows
'necking' or thinning of the diameter of the string at point of break.

D.



Reply from: jtees4
Date: 09 May 2008, 22:49
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?

On Fri, 9 May 2008 18:18:18 +0100, "D." <D@nospamWe8ManU,com > wrote:

>
>>> Any Tips?
>>>
>>> D.
>>
>> Are the strings actually breaking where you're fretting them when you
>> bend? Or at the bridge, or the nut? This is not normal.
>>
>> I use 10 - 52 gauge strings (Ernie Ball) and I routinely bend up to four
>> semitones. I can't remember the last time a string broke (it's at least
>> 2 years ago). Bending a full tone "too sharp" won't cause this problem
>> if your guitar is OK otherwise.
>>
>> If you can't pinpoint where the problem is by noting exactly where the
>> breakage occurs, take your guitar to a tech and explain the problem to
>> him. D'Addario are good-quality strings, and this shouldn't be
>> happening.
>>
>>
>They seem to be snapping under the finger creating the bend. The guitar is a
>2005 USA series Strat. The only thing i can think of is that as the top of
>the frets have become ever so slightly flattened with use over the last
>couple of years, that this creates a 'corner' that may be sharp enough to
>create a 'nick' or weakspot in the string as it is fretted then bent. This
>is a bit far fetched though. Close inspection of the snapped end shows
>'necking' or thinning of the diameter of the string at point of break.
>
>D.
>
That is indeed a very strange place to be breaking strings. I think
since it is a fairly expensive guitar, it would be worth having a
professional look at it. You may try a different brand of strings just
to be sure it has nothing to do with the strings first. Good luck.

***********
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Reply from: Flinstoneyerfired
Date: 09 May 2008, 23:21
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?

On May 9, 1:18 pm, "D." <D...@nospamWe8ManU,com > wrote:
> >> Any Tips?
>
> >> D.
>
> > Are the strings actually breaking where you're fretting them when you
> > bend? Or at the bridge, or the nut? This is not normal.
>
> > I use 10 - 52 gauge strings (Ernie Ball) and I routinely bend up to four
> > semitones. I can't remember the last time a string broke (it's at least
> > 2 years ago). Bending a full tone "too sharp" won't cause this problem
> > if your guitar is OK otherwise.
>
> > If you can't pinpoint where the problem is by noting exactly where the
> > breakage occurs, take your guitar to a tech and explain the problem to
> > him. D'Addario are good-quality strings, and this shouldn't be
> > happening.
>
> They seem to be snapping under the finger creating the bend. The guitar is a
> 2005 USA series Strat. The only thing i can think of is that as the top of
> the frets have become ever so slightly flattened with use over the last
> couple of years, that this creates a 'corner' that may be sharp enough to
> create a 'nick' or weakspot in the string as it is fretted then bent. This
> is a bit far fetched though. Close inspection of the snapped end shows
> 'necking' or thinning of the diameter of the string at point of break.
>
> D.

Probably an issue with the fret- may need some professional attention.
Take it to a reputable tech. I think in thirty years of playing I've
maybe broken two or three strings along the fretboard (they were way
old strings if memory serves). You've probably got a rough or sharp
fret wearing the string out fast.

Mike

Reply from: RichL
Date: 10 May 2008, 01:30
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?

D. <D@nospamWe8ManU,com > wrote:
>>> Any Tips?
>>>
>>> D.
>>
>> Are the strings actually breaking where you're fretting them when you
>> bend? Or at the bridge, or the nut? This is not normal.
>>
>> I use 10 - 52 gauge strings (Ernie Ball) and I routinely bend up to
>> four semitones. I can't remember the last time a string broke (it's
>> at least 2 years ago). Bending a full tone "too sharp" won't cause
>> this problem if your guitar is OK otherwise.
>>
>> If you can't pinpoint where the problem is by noting exactly where
>> the breakage occurs, take your guitar to a tech and explain the
>> problem to him. D'Addario are good-quality strings, and this
>> shouldn't be happening.
>>
>>
> They seem to be snapping under the finger creating the bend. The
> guitar is a 2005 USA series Strat. The only thing i can think of is
> that as the top of the frets have become ever so slightly flattened
> with use over the last couple of years, that this creates a 'corner'
> that may be sharp enough to create a 'nick' or weakspot in the string
> as it is fretted then bent. This is a bit far fetched though. Close
> inspection of the snapped end shows 'necking' or thinning of the
> diameter of the string at point of break.
>
> D.

It definitely sounds like the frets are taking their toll on the
strings. They probably have rough edges and need to be filed. If
you're uncomfortable doing this yourself, take it to a tech. It'll be
worth it!



Reply from: Grinner
Date: 09 May 2008, 09:51
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?


"D." <D@nospamWe8ManU,com > wrote in message
news:GxFUj.30052$_k2.23337@newsfe11.ams2...
> Helo I've played guitar for many a year on and off. I recently found that
> my top E bending is too flat - I bend a semitione fine, but the tone bend
> is flat. I have been practising bending up and managed to snap 7 Top E
> strings in the last two weeks! I use gague 10 - 42 D'addario. A new string
> is fitted and barely has time to bed in before it snaps too. I estimate
> that any one string seems to manage 20 whole tone bends before snapping. I
> check with a digital tuner 440 Hz and I am not bending too sharp.
>
> Any Tips?
>
> D.
maybe the neck radius?
>



Reply from: Meat Plow
Date: 09 May 2008, 18:14
Re: How Can I Stop Snapping my Top E String?

On Thu, 08 May 2008 17:05:54 +0100, D. wrote:

> Helo I've played guitar for many a year on and off. I recently found that my
> top E bending is too flat - I bend a semitione fine, but the tone bend is
> flat. I have been practising bending up and managed to snap 7 Top E strings
> in the last two weeks! I use gague 10 - 42 D'addario. A new string is
> fitted and barely has time to bed in before it snaps too. I estimate that
> any one string seems to manage 20 whole tone bends before snapping. I check
> with a digital tuner 440 Hz and I am not bending too sharp.
>
> Any Tips?
>
> D.

If the string snaps at the bridge then the bridge has a burr or sharp edge
and needs to be dressed.

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