For how long do you guys play for free?

Re: For how long do you guys play for free?

On Thu, 15 May 2008 06:11:59 +0300, "DeeAa"
<deeaaREMOVE_THIS@dnainternet . net > wrote:

>We've had a couple of warmup gigs, and tomorrow is the next one. It's a
>300km trip altogether though, and they don't pay nuthing - well promised us
>a couple of beers. But they provide the PA and all.
>
>Still, we need to pay for the traveling costs, gas, spend the night in a
>motel at our own costs,

Just say no! 300 kliks is about 200 miles, right? Fuhgedaboudit.
Unless you can recover your expenses.

A wise man from way back in my past told me to never sell myself
short, and neither should you.

Tejas Pedro

Re: For how long do you guys play for free?

"DeeAa" <deeaaREMOVE_THIS@dnainternet . net > wrote:

>And furthermore, if they pay you, then they typically also
>require like 3x45min sets, which is way too much.

I've been playing 4x45min sets for 30+ years.
For a few years it was 5x45min sets. Suck it up,
kid :-)

The Repair Guy
repairguy1993 dot netfirms dot com

Re: For how long do you guys play for free?

The Repair Guy wrote:
> "DeeAa" <deeaaREMOVE_THIS@dnainternet . net > wrote:
>
>> And furthermore, if they pay you, then they typically also
>> require like 3x45min sets, which is way too much.
>
> I've been playing 4x45min sets for 30+ years.
> For a few years it was 5x45min sets. Suck it up,
> kid :-)
>
> The Repair Guy
> repairguy1993 dot netfirms dot com

Then there are The Exceptions :-) A+ mvm

Re: For how long do you guys play for free?

On May 14, 8:11 pm, "DeeAa" <deeaaREMOVE T...@dnainternet . net > wrote:
> Well,
>
> As you may have noticed from my posts, my band Crankenhaus is getting read=
y
> to be gigging more...so the question for the band is now: how many gigs wi=
ll
> we play, and for what costs.
>
> We've had a couple of warmup gigs, and tomorrow is the next one. It's a
> 300km trip altogether though, and they don't pay nuthing - well promised u=
s
> a couple of beers. But they provide the PA and all.
>
> Still, we need to pay for the traveling costs, gas, spend the night in a
> motel at our own costs, so it'll be expensive for us to throw that gig.
> Money that I don't have just now as I'm still in debt for the Ceriatone he=
ad
> etc.
>
> I wouldn't want to throw too many gigs for free, but the way it seems thes=
e
> days, playing original music, it seems you'll soon have to fork up some
> dough to get a chance to play at a bar or someplace where there is people.=

> Hell, whenever there is a local battle of bands contest or something, they=

> get like a three-figure number of bands wanting to get in...even though th=
is
> is a town of under 100.000 inhabitants...but anyway, there are so many and=

> so good bands around, nobody pays nothing. And with what seems like every
> other goddamn topten foreign band like 30sec to mars etc. plus old greats
> from maiden to priest etc. is touring here now or soon, there's so much
> offering anyway there's little need for more bands playing live.
>
> And furthermore, if they pay you, then they typically also require like
> 3x45min sets, which is way too much. I never ever want to do this for work=
,
> I don't even like gigging that much. But the other guys are anxious to get=

> gigs, so we have a few more lined up that will cost us money already. I
> don't much like that. I'd rather just make recordings and new songs and on=
ly
> start gigging when we get offers and paid at least expenses.
>
> But...that gets a band nowhere fast, just staying at the rehearsal
> place...you need to get noticed at least some, so gigs would be excellent =
in
> that respect. What a dilemma.
>
> So...how do you guys in bands playing original material deal with these
> issues?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dee

Dee . . .

Years ago a manager gave me some very good advice. It went something
like this, "If you're not making money, you're losing money." It's
still good advice!

Good Luck,
Lulu : )