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The "Big 5" :-)

Reply from: Gamma Ray
Date: 06 May 2008, 23:55
Re: The "Big 5" :-)

The Blues Box (A minor Penta) 1 as shown, overlaps / fits w/in the A
Dorian Modal pattern. If you (tradmill) go back toward the nut to Box 5,
you're squarely w/in in the Gb Locrian "Form", which itself,
'treadmills' forward into the G Major or Ionian mode. Then, comes
A Dorian, B Phrygian, C Lydian, D Mixolydian, E Aolian*, Gb Locrian

*THE RELATIVE MINOR you're twitching about, -bitch :-) mvm


Kaz Kylheku wrote:
> On May 6, 8:35 am, Gamma Ray <"fixed-441x82x"@.9spamenzee/my pa-
> cks,net > wrote:
>> We'll Use the key of Am (G Major) because SO much seems to be played there..
>
> Okay, I will bite. Once!
>
> A minor is not G major, you doofus. A minor corresponds to C major. G
> major corresponds to E minor.
>
>> Know this though- you've got to practice in every key. Focus
>> on just one to get going though, that's normal, because everything at
>> once can easily overwhelm.
>>
>> |-5-|---|---|-8-|---|---|---|
>> |-5-|*6-|-7-|---|---|---|---|
>> |-5-|---|-7-|---|---|---|---|
>> |-5-|---|-7-|---|---|---|---|
>> |-5-|---|---|-8-|---|---|---|
>> |-5-|---|---|-8-|---|---|---|
>> Blues Box 1
>
> You spamming twit, this is neither A minor pentatonic, nor E minor
> pentatonic (doesn't even have the E note). You are not consistently
> using the same minor pentatonic scale across both octaves.
>
> That E, incidentally, is needed because it is the fifth above the A.
> Or perhaps you don't think that the minor pentatonic has a fifth?
>
> The blues scale, if there is such a thing, is a combination of three
> ingredients: a superimposed minor and major pentatonic scale, plus the
> tritone.
>
> The Box 1 A minor pentatonic (with tritones added) looks like this:
>
> V
> |-R-|---|---|-*-|
> |-*-|---|---|-*-|
> |-*-|---|-*-|-T-|
> |-*-|---|-R-|---|
> |-*-|-T-|-*-|---|
> |-R-|---|---|-*-|
>
> Roots (A) shown as R, tritone (Eb) shown as T.
>
> Also, your numbers are redundant because they just indicate the fret
> position. This is a wasteful notation. A single symbol, like the roman
> numeral V, can establish the box's position on the fretboard.
>
>> http :// tinyurl,com /*****
>
> Spam URL.
>

Reply from: Noisemaker
Date: 07 May 2008, 21:59
Re: The "Big 5" :-)

On May 6, 2:55 pm, Gamma Ray <"fixed-441x82x"@.9spamenzee/my pa-
cks,net > wrote:
> The Blues Box (A minor Penta) 1 as shown, overlaps / fits w/in the A
> Dorian Modal pattern. If you (tradmill) go back toward the nut to Box 5,
> you're squarely w/in in the Gb Locrian "Form", which itself,
> 'treadmills' forward into the G Major or Ionian mode. Then, comes
> A Dorian, B Phrygian, C Lydian, D Mixolydian, E Aolian*, Gb Locrian
>
> *THE RELATIVE MINOR you're twitching about, -bitch :-) mvm
>

It's obvious from your convoluted, irrelevant response that you have
no idea what a relative minor is.

>
>
> Kaz Kylheku wrote:
> > On May 6, 8:35 am, Gamma Ray <"fixed-441x82x"@.9spamenzee/my pa-
> > cks,net > wrote:
> >> We'll Use the key of Am (G Major) because SO much seems to be played there..
>
> > Okay, I will bite. Once!
>
> > A minor is not G major, you doofus. A minor corresponds to C major. G
> > major corresponds to E minor.
>
> >> Know this though- you've got to practice in every key. Focus
> >> on just one to get going though, that's normal, because everything at
> >> once can easily overwhelm.
>
> >> |-5-|---|---|-8-|---|---|---|
> >> |-5-|*6-|-7-|---|---|---|---|
> >> |-5-|---|-7-|---|---|---|---|
> >> |-5-|---|-7-|---|---|---|---|
> >> |-5-|---|---|-8-|---|---|---|
> >> |-5-|---|---|-8-|---|---|---|
> >> Blues Box 1
>
> > You spamming twit, this is neither A minor pentatonic, nor E minor
> > pentatonic (doesn't even have the E note). You are not consistently
> > using the same minor pentatonic scale across both octaves.
>
> > That E, incidentally, is needed because it is the fifth above the A.
> > Or perhaps you don't think that the minor pentatonic has a fifth?
>
> > The blues scale, if there is such a thing, is a combination of three
> > ingredients: a superimposed minor and major pentatonic scale, plus the
> > tritone.
>
> > The Box 1 A minor pentatonic (with tritones added) looks like this:
>
> >     V
> >   |-R-|---|---|-*-|
> >   |-*-|---|---|-*-|
> >   |-*-|---|-*-|-T-|
> >   |-*-|---|-R-|---|
> >   |-*-|-T-|-*-|---|
> >   |-R-|---|---|-*-|
>
> > Roots (A) shown as R, tritone (Eb) shown as T.
>
> > Also, your numbers are redundant because they just indicate the fret
> > position. This is a wasteful notation. A single symbol, like the roman
> > numeral V, can establish the box's position on the fretboard.
>
> >> http :// tinyurl,com /*****
>
> > Spam URL.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Reply from: Keith Adams
Date: 07 May 2008, 00:17
Re: The "Big 5" :-)

You fuckers dont need to post your shit here.

"Gamma Ray" <"fixed-441x82x"@.9spamenzee/my_pa-cks,net > wrote in message
news:p--dnSlyQ6lsC73VnZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@giganews,com ...
>I know this is ubber simplistic stuff, but it ties into my other
> posts re; Modes. If perhaps you know of a beginner, this might
> help her or him!
>
> The 7 modal forms basically overlay these 5 -OR- it can be said that these
> 5 overlay or fit within the modal forms! It's all a treadmill.
>
> We'll Use the key of Am (G Major) because SO much seems to be played
> there.
>
> Know this though- you've got to practice in every key. Focus
> on just one to get going though, that's normal, because everything at once
> can easily overwhelm.
>
>
> |-5-|---|---|-8-|---|---|---|
> |-5-|*6-|-7-|---|---|---|---|
> |-5-|---|-7-|---|---|---|---|
> |-5-|---|-7-|---|---|---|---|
> |-5-|---|---|-8-|---|---|---|
> |-5-|---|---|-8-|---|---|---|
> Blues Box 1
>
> |---|---|---|-8-|---|10-|---|
> |---|---|-7-|---|---|10-|---|
> |---|---|-7-|---|---|10-|---|
> |---|---|-7-|*8-|-9-|---|---|Draw a circle around
> |---|---|---|-8-|---|10-|---|the 9, 8's and 10's
> |---|---|---|-8-|---|10-|---|these three strings!*
> Blues Box 2
>
> |---|10-|*11|12-|---|---|---|
> |---|10-|---|12-|---|---|---|
> |---|10-|---|12-|---|---|---|
> |9--|---|---|12-|---|---|---|
> |---|10-|---|---|13-|---|---|
> |---|10-|*11|12-|---|---|---|
> Blues Box 3
>
>
> |12-|---|---|15-|---|---|---|
> |12-|---|---|15-|---|---|---|
> |12-|*13|14-|---|---|---|---|
> |12-|---|14-|---|---|---|---|
> |---|13-|---|15-|---|---|---|
> |12-|---|---|15-|---|---|---|
> Blues Box 4
>
>
> |---|15-|---|17-|---|---|---|
> |---|15-|---|17-|---|---|---|
> |14-|---|---|17-|---|---|---|
> |14-|---|---|17-|---|---|---|
> |---|15-|*16|17-|---|---|---|
> |---|15-|---|17-|---|---|---|
> Blues Box 5
>
> What's cool, is that in this key (because there's room for a full box back
> there) box 5 here, could just as easily have been our starting box back up
> at the nut...
>
> |---|-3-|---|-5-|---|---|---|
> |---|-3-|---|-5-|---|---|---|
> |-2-|---|---|-5-|---|---|---|
> |-2-|---|---|-5-|---|---|---|
> |---|-3-|*4-|-5-|---|---|---|
> |---|-3-|---|-5-|---|---|---|
> Blues Box 5
>
> See, this stuff treadmills; As in,
>
> Box 5--> Box 1--> Box 2--> Box 3--> Box 4--> Box 5--> Box 1
> etc.
>
> When you get more experienced, you'll be able to start out in say,Box 3
> and accurately hop to any other box out of linear sequence, bending,
> hammering on, pulling off, applying vibrato, expressing yourself w/out
> thinking about it...but THAT'S where hours of practice separate the
> Vulcans from the ...Klingons?
>
> One last very important note!!!
>
> What I've shown you here, is for 'minor blues' emphasis.
>
> The cool thing about the intersection of Blues and say, Southern Rock, is
> that you can switch back and forth between a "MAJOR" feel / sound and a
> "Minor" feel / sound in terms of emphasis.
>
> Again, This is all A minor.
>
> To use all of the above using a MAJOR feel sound, all you do is START at
> the A note again (5th Fret,6th. fat string) but this time, begin with Box
> 2, not box one... !
>
> * Circle: This is the "Albert King" box w/in a box. a whole
> lotta bending and expression comes outta here!
>
> Regards,
>
> mvm
> >
> http :// tinyurl,com /32j32m



Reply from: Gamma Ray
Date: 07 May 2008, 00:11
Re: The "Big 5" :-)

Keith Adams wrote:
> You fuckers dont need to post your shit here.

Go guzzle cum, moron.

Reply from: Meat Plow
Date: 07 May 2008, 19:20
Re: The "Big 5" :-)

On Tue, 06 May 2008 15:17:56 -0700, Keith Adams wrote:

> Subject: Re: The "Big 5" :-)
> From: "Keith Adams" <keithadams@socal.rr,com >
> Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.guitar.amps,alt.guitar.effects
> Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 15:17:56 -0700
>
> You fuckers dont need to post your shit here.

You don't need to post your shit here either.




Reply from: Stephen Cowell
Date: 07 May 2008, 03:25
Re: The "Big 5" :-)


"Gamma Ray" <"fixed-441x82x"@.9spamenzee/my_pa-cks,net > wrote in message
news:p--dnSlyQ6lsC73VnZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@giganews,com ...
>I know this is ubber simplistic stuff, but it

is called pentatonic, by folks that can use it.
__
Steve
.



Reply from: Gamma Ray
Date: 07 May 2008, 06:53
Re: The "Big 5" :-)

Stephen Cowell wrote:
> "Gamma Ray" <"fixed-441x82x"@.9spamenzee/my pa-cks,net > wrote in message
> news:p--dnSlyQ6lsC73VnZ2dnUVZ j6dnZ2d@giganews,com ...
>> I know this is ubber simplistic stuff, but it
>
> is called pentatonic, by folks that can use it.
>
> Steve
> .
>
>
Use *this*: :-) mvm

http :// soundclick,com /share?songidd50204

Reply from: Noisemaker
Date: 07 May 2008, 21:01
Re: The "Big 5" :-)

On May 6, 8:35 am, Gamma Ray <"fixed-441x82x"@.9spamenzee/my pa-
cks,net > wrote:
> I know this is ubber simplistic stuff, but it ties into my other
> posts re; Modes. If perhaps you know of a beginner, this might
> help her or him!

I know a beginner...

*YOU*

LOL

>
> The 9 modal forms basically overlay these 7 -OR- it can be said that
> these 54 overlay or fit within the modal forms! It's all a treadmill.
>

sez mvm the world's renowned expert of modes!

LOL

> We'll Use the key of Am (G Major) because SO much seems to be played there.
>

"SO much.." And what experience do you base this on? Listening to
and ripping off Guitar Shorty records?

LOL


> Know this though- you've got to practice in every key.

"Know this.." What a joke. Not a very convincing statement from
someone who knows *very little* about music, how to play the guitar,
electronics, etc.


> Focus
> on just one to get going though, that's normal, because everything at
> once can easily overwhelm.
>

You should know!!!

LOL

> |-5-|---|---|-8-|---|---|---|
> |-5-|*6-|-7-|---|---|---|---|
> |-5-|---|-7-|---|---|---|---|
> |-5-|---|-7-|---|---|---|---|
> |-5-|---|---|-8-|---|---|---|
> |-5-|---|---|-8-|---|---|---|
> Blues Box 676y1
>
> |---|---|---|-8-|---|10-|---|
> |---|---|-7-|---|---|10-|---|
> |---|---|-7-|---|---|10-|---|
> |---|---|-7-|*8-|-9-|---|---|Draw a circle around
> |---|---|---|-8-|---|10-|---|the 9, 8's and 10's
> |---|---|---|-8-|---|10-|---|these three strings!*

Have *YOU* "drawn a circle around the 9, 8's and 10's?"

Bork.


> Blues Box 289jujuiu79i86u7i8i8$#@$&**%$
>
> |---|1760-|*17u1|176u752-|---|---|---|
> |---|12450-|---|12-|---|---|---|
> |---|4610-|---|12-|---|---|---|
> |9--|---|---|12-|---|---|---|
> |---|410-|---|---|13-|---|---|
> |---|160-|*11|12-|---|---|---|
> Blues Box 3
>
> |1254-|---|---|8615-|---|---|---|
> |6812-|---|---|15-|---|---|---|
> |154762-|*713|14-|---|---|---|---|
> |12-|---|1764-|---|---|---|---|
> |---|13-|---|156785-|---|---|---|
> |12-|---|---|1524-|---|---|---|
> Blues Box h64
>
> |---|57915-|---|1735-|---|---|---|
> |---|15-|---|167-|---|---|---|
> |79414-|---|---|1r7-|---|---|---|
> |14-|---|---|15677-|---|---|---|
> |---|9715-|*16|17-|---|---|---|
> |---|165-|---|17-|---|---|---|
> Blues Box 5
>

Come get ya some o' dem *BLUES BOXES* baby!!!!

LOL


> What's cool,

Not you, that's for sure!!!!

> is that in this key (because there's room for a full box
> back there)

I think you got room for a "full box" back there -

> box 5 here, could just as easily have been our starting box
> back up at the nut...
>

Which nut, you?

LOL


> |---|-4-|---|-63-|---|---|---|
> |---|-315-|---|-23-|---|---|---|
> |-672-|---|---|-586-|---|---|---|
> |-2-|---|---|-560-|---|---|---|
> |---|-3-|*457-|-55-|---|---|---|
> |---|-3-|---|-5567-|---|---|---|
> Blues Box 5674yh6ui85
>
> See, this stuff treadmills; As in,
>


"treadmill, treadmill, treadmill, treadmill... over... and over... and
over..."

LOL


> Box 53256--> Box 974637367541--> Box 78963452432--> Box 2356964r474663--> Box 34gefy4674gtu65u4--> Box 53467y54gt53y536--> Box 256wegbrth76986u8978i1
> etc.
>
> When you get more experienced,

How would you know what "experienced" is?

> you'll be able to start out in say,Box 3
> and accurately hop to any other box out of linear sequence, bending,
> hammering on, pulling off, applying vibrato, expressing yourself w/out
> thinking about it...but THAT'S where hours of practice separate the
> Vulcans from the ...Klingons?
>

I think this post is one big "klingon."

> One last very important note!!!
>

And you sure know what "important" is!!!!

> What I've shown you here, is for 'minor blues' emphasis.
>
> The cool thing about the intersection of Blues and say, Southern Rock,
> is that you can switch back and forth between a "MAJOR" feel / sound and
> a "Minor" feel / sound in terms of emphasis.
>
> Again, This is all A minor.
>
> To use all of the above using a MINOR feel sound, all you do is END at
> the F flat note again (5th Fret,6th. fat string) but this time, begin with
> Box 2, not box one... !
>
> * Circle: This is the "Albert King" box w/in a box. a whole
> lotta bending and expression comes outta here!
>

Does "Albert King" know that you used his name in this bullshit post?

> Regards,
>
> mvm
>  > http :// tinyurl,com /32j32m


Reply from: J.P.
Date: 07 May 2008, 21:34
Re: The "Big 5" :-)

On Wed, 7 May 2008 12:01:54 -0700 (PDT), Noisemaker
<noisemaker99@gmail,com > wrote:

>On May 6, 8:35 am, Gamma Ray <"fixed-441x82x"@.9spamenzee/my pa-
>cks,net > wrote:
>> I know this is ubber simplistic stuff, but it ties into my other
>> posts re; Modes. If perhaps you know of a beginner, this might
>> help her or him!
>
>I know a beginner...
>
>*YOU*
>
>LOL
>
>>
>> The 9 modal forms basically overlay these 7 -OR- it can be said that
>> these 54 overlay or fit within the modal forms! It's all a treadmill.
>>
>
>sez mvm the world's renowned expert of modes!
>
>LOL
>
>> We'll Use the key of Am (G Major) because SO much seems to be played there.
>>
>
>"SO much.." And what experience do you base this on? Listening to
>and ripping off Guitar Shorty records?
>
>LOL
>
>
>> Know this though- you've got to practice in every key.
>
>"Know this.." What a joke. Not a very convincing statement from
>someone who knows *very little* about music, how to play the guitar,
>electronics, etc.
>
>
>> Focus
>> on just one to get going though, that's normal, because everything at
>> once can easily overwhelm.
>>
>
>You should know!!!
>
>LOL
>
>> |-5-|---|---|-8-|---|---|---|
>> |-5-|*6-|-7-|---|---|---|---|
>> |-5-|---|-7-|---|---|---|---|
>> |-5-|---|-7-|---|---|---|---|
>> |-5-|---|---|-8-|---|---|---|
>> |-5-|---|---|-8-|---|---|---|
>> Blues Box 676y1
>>
>> |---|---|---|-8-|---|10-|---|
>> |---|---|-7-|---|---|10-|---|
>> |---|---|-7-|---|---|10-|---|
>> |---|---|-7-|*8-|-9-|---|---|Draw a circle around
>> |---|---|---|-8-|---|10-|---|the 9, 8's and 10's
>> |---|---|---|-8-|---|10-|---|these three strings!*
>
>Have *YOU* "drawn a circle around the 9, 8's and 10's?"
>
>Bork.
>
>
>> Blues Box 289jujuiu79i86u7i8i8$#@$&**%$
>>
>> |---|1760-|*17u1|176u752-|---|---|---|
>> |---|12450-|---|12-|---|---|---|
>> |---|4610-|---|12-|---|---|---|
>> |9--|---|---|12-|---|---|---|
>> |---|410-|---|---|13-|---|---|
>> |---|160-|*11|12-|---|---|---|
>> Blues Box 3
>>
>> |1254-|---|---|8615-|---|---|---|
>> |6812-|---|---|15-|---|---|---|
>> |154762-|*713|14-|---|---|---|---|
>> |12-|---|1764-|---|---|---|---|
>> |---|13-|---|156785-|---|---|---|
>> |12-|---|---|1524-|---|---|---|
>> Blues Box h64
>>
>> |---|57915-|---|1735-|---|---|---|
>> |---|15-|---|167-|---|---|---|
>> |79414-|---|---|1r7-|---|---|---|
>> |14-|---|---|15677-|---|---|---|
>> |---|9715-|*16|17-|---|---|---|
>> |---|165-|---|17-|---|---|---|
>> Blues Box 5
>>
>
>Come get ya some o' dem *BLUES BOXES* baby!!!!
>
>LOL
>
>
>> What's cool,
>
>Not you, that's for sure!!!!
>
>> is that in this key (because there's room for a full box
>> back there)
>
>I think you got room for a "full box" back there -
>
>> box 5 here, could just as easily have been our starting box
>> back up at the nut...
>>
>
>Which nut, you?
>
>LOL
>
>
>> |---|-4-|---|-63-|---|---|---|
>> |---|-315-|---|-23-|---|---|---|
>> |-672-|---|---|-586-|---|---|---|
>> |-2-|---|---|-560-|---|---|---|
>> |---|-3-|*457-|-55-|---|---|---|
>> |---|-3-|---|-5567-|---|---|---|
>> Blues Box 5674yh6ui85
>>
>> See, this stuff treadmills; As in,
>>
>
>
>"treadmill, treadmill, treadmill, treadmill... over... and over... and
>over..."
>
>LOL
>
>
>> Box 53256--> Box 974637367541--> Box 78963452432--> Box 2356964r474663--> Box 34gefy4674gtu65u4--> Box 53467y54gt53y536--> Box 256wegbrth76986u8978i1
>> etc.
>>
>> When you get more experienced,
>
>How would you know what "experienced" is?
>
>> you'll be able to start out in say,Box 3
>> and accurately hop to any other box out of linear sequence, bending,
>> hammering on, pulling off, applying vibrato, expressing yourself w/out
>> thinking about it...but THAT'S where hours of practice separate the
>> Vulcans from the ...Klingons?
>>
>
>I think this post is one big "klingon."
>
>> One last very important note!!!
>>
>
>And you sure know what "important" is!!!!
>
>> What I've shown you here, is for 'minor blues' emphasis.
>>
>> The cool thing about the intersection of Blues and say, Southern Rock,
>> is that you can switch back and forth between a "MAJOR" feel / sound and
>> a "Minor" feel / sound in terms of emphasis.
>>
>> Again, This is all A minor.
>>
>> To use all of the above using a MINOR feel sound, all you do is END at
>> the F flat note again (5th Fret,6th. fat string) but this time, begin with
>> Box 2, not box one... !
>>
>> * Circle: This is the "Albert King" box w/in a box. a whole
>> lotta bending and expression comes outta here!
>>
>
>Does "Albert King" know that you used his name in this bullshit post?
>
>> Regards,
>>
>> mvm
>>  > http :// tinygurliebutt,com /32j32m
Oh fuck, the nut's behind the steering wheel again...


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