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Re: lawsuit guitars
All Fender guitars built since 1965 are nothing but replicas. Since G&L
guitars show the natural progression of a product line .Maybe Fender should
start building copies of them? The Fender R&D department is sorely lacking
in creativity and leads me to doubt that they even have one?
"Mark Bedingfield" <atari030@nomorespampleaseoptusnet,com .au> wrote in
message news:482ae62c$0$13949$afc38c87@news.optusnet,com .au...
> rct wrote:
>> jimmy wrote:
>>
>>> Here's one take on lawsuit guitars.
>>
>> It's not one take, it's the only take.
>
> I thought it was common knowledge? Tho the term "Lawsuit' is generally
> used in reference to any Japanese clone from the 70's to the early 80's
> these days. I wonder how many factories there actually were?
>>
>>> I wonder how true this is.
>>
>> The only thing I remember different is that Fedner was involved in a
>> minor way, script used for logos and headstock shape. They also used
>> the courts later, early - mid 80's in there somewhere, Valley Arts I
>> believe was sued by Fedner for headstock and script.
>
> They did, and that's how Fender Japan came about. I always thought Valley
> Arts used their own headstock design? Nice guitars tho.
>>
>> I'm usually the first one in usenet to point and laugh at the
>> "lawsuit" Bee Ess, because that's what it is. It's especially
>> offensive when some guitar joker that wasn't even born when I got
>> married starts telling me this krap.
>
> Don't know how age effects truth? Why is it offensive? Here's some more
> history tho (iirc), after Fender was sold by CBS, FMIC went to Japan and
> actually got the Japanese to instruct the Americans in how to build
> accurate vintage replica's. Mostly because CBS had squandered the talent
> that was doing it originally.
>
> Strangely I'm sitting here now intonating my MIM 50's reissue;-) My MIJ
> bass is in the corner, lol. Actually that P-bass is probably about the
> right age too, mid to late 70's. Sakai. Stuffed if I know who actually
> built it tho.
>
> Mark
All Fender guitars built since 1965 are nothing but replicas. Since G&L
guitars show the natural progression of a product line .Maybe Fender should
start building copies of them? The Fender R&D department is sorely lacking
in creativity and leads me to doubt that they even have one?
"Mark Bedingfield" <atari030@nomorespampleaseoptusnet,com .au> wrote in
message news:482ae62c$0$13949$afc38c87@news.optusnet,com .au...
> rct wrote:
>> jimmy wrote:
>>
>>> Here's one take on lawsuit guitars.
>>
>> It's not one take, it's the only take.
>
> I thought it was common knowledge? Tho the term "Lawsuit' is generally
> used in reference to any Japanese clone from the 70's to the early 80's
> these days. I wonder how many factories there actually were?
>>
>>> I wonder how true this is.
>>
>> The only thing I remember different is that Fedner was involved in a
>> minor way, script used for logos and headstock shape. They also used
>> the courts later, early - mid 80's in there somewhere, Valley Arts I
>> believe was sued by Fedner for headstock and script.
>
> They did, and that's how Fender Japan came about. I always thought Valley
> Arts used their own headstock design? Nice guitars tho.
>>
>> I'm usually the first one in usenet to point and laugh at the
>> "lawsuit" Bee Ess, because that's what it is. It's especially
>> offensive when some guitar joker that wasn't even born when I got
>> married starts telling me this krap.
>
> Don't know how age effects truth? Why is it offensive? Here's some more
> history tho (iirc), after Fender was sold by CBS, FMIC went to Japan and
> actually got the Japanese to instruct the Americans in how to build
> accurate vintage replica's. Mostly because CBS had squandered the talent
> that was doing it originally.
>
> Strangely I'm sitting here now intonating my MIM 50's reissue;-) My MIJ
> bass is in the corner, lol. Actually that P-bass is probably about the
> right age too, mid to late 70's. Sakai. Stuffed if I know who actually
> built it tho.
>
> Mark
Re: lawsuit guitars
Keith Adams wrote:
> All Fender guitars built since 1965 are nothing but replicas. Since G&L
> guitars show the natural progression of a product line .Maybe Fender should
> start building copies of them?
I'm not really into the G&Ls. They were good quality but they didn't
play like a Strat.
> The Fender R&D department is sorely lacking
> in creativity and leads me to doubt that they even have one?
They're quite creative in coming up with new artists to endorse,
different guitars to replicate, new ways of 'ageing' their guitars,
different ways to colour the body, different pickup and wiring options
etc. Leo got it right the first time around, so all that's left to do
is think up new ways to market the same basic design.
Keith Adams wrote:
> All Fender guitars built since 1965 are nothing but replicas. Since G&L
> guitars show the natural progression of a product line .Maybe Fender should
> start building copies of them?
I'm not really into the G&Ls. They were good quality but they didn't
play like a Strat.
> The Fender R&D department is sorely lacking
> in creativity and leads me to doubt that they even have one?
They're quite creative in coming up with new artists to endorse,
different guitars to replicate, new ways of 'ageing' their guitars,
different ways to colour the body, different pickup and wiring options
etc. Leo got it right the first time around, so all that's left to do
is think up new ways to market the same basic design.
Re: lawsuit guitars
"White Spirit" <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> wrote in message
news:g0hm92$616$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Keith Adams wrote:
>
>> All Fender guitars built since 1965 are nothing but replicas. Since G&L
>> guitars show the natural progression of a product line .Maybe Fender
>> should start building copies of them?
>
> I'm not really into the G&Ls. They were good quality but they didn't play
> like a Strat.
>
>> The Fender R&D department is sorely lacking in creativity and leads me
>> to doubt that they even have one?
>
> They're quite creative in coming up with new artists to endorse, different
> guitars to replicate, new ways of 'ageing' their guitars, different ways
> to colour the body, different pickup and wiring options etc. Leo got it
> right the first time around, so all that's left to do is think up new ways
> to market the same basic design.
I wouldn't mind a G&L bluesboy tele. I've played two G&L telecasters. they
were very nice guitars. one was mexican and one american. check this out....
http :// tinyurl,com /3pwjdc
I'd also love to play a heritage guitar, by the original gibson luthiers
that never left kalamazoo when gibson went to nashville.
"White Spirit" <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> wrote in message
news:g0hm92$616$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Keith Adams wrote:
>
>> All Fender guitars built since 1965 are nothing but replicas. Since G&L
>> guitars show the natural progression of a product line .Maybe Fender
>> should start building copies of them?
>
> I'm not really into the G&Ls. They were good quality but they didn't play
> like a Strat.
>
>> The Fender R&D department is sorely lacking in creativity and leads me
>> to doubt that they even have one?
>
> They're quite creative in coming up with new artists to endorse, different
> guitars to replicate, new ways of 'ageing' their guitars, different ways
> to colour the body, different pickup and wiring options etc. Leo got it
> right the first time around, so all that's left to do is think up new ways
> to market the same basic design.
I wouldn't mind a G&L bluesboy tele. I've played two G&L telecasters. they
were very nice guitars. one was mexican and one american. check this out....
http :// tinyurl,com /3pwjdc
I'd also love to play a heritage guitar, by the original gibson luthiers
that never left kalamazoo when gibson went to nashville.
Re: lawsuit guitars
On May 14, 7:38 am, jimmy <bigtoeh...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> Here's one take on lawsuit guitars. I wonder how true this is.
>
> http :// www .guitarattack,com /destroyer/lawsuit.htm
>
> tony
I'll just interject here that the Ibanez Silver Series Tele is a fine
guitar.
JMK
On May 14, 7:38 am, jimmy <bigtoeh...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> Here's one take on lawsuit guitars. I wonder how true this is.
>
> http :// www .guitarattack,com /destroyer/lawsuit.htm
>
> tony
I'll just interject here that the Ibanez Silver Series Tele is a fine
guitar.
JMK
Re: lawsuit guitars
On May 14, 7:38 am, jimmy <bigtoeh...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> Here's one take on lawsuit guitars. I wonder how true this is.
>
> http :// www .guitarattack,com /destroyer/lawsuit.htm
>
> tony
I have owned two "lawsuit" guitars in my past, never knowing what I
had at the time. One a Gibson Les Paul copy by Electra the second a
Fender Strart copy by Tokai, they both copied the trademark headstock
design of Fender and Gibson. The Electra was a piece of crap, the
Tokai was a very fine guitar, better in fact that two American build
Starts I owned over the years.
Every once in a while they will turn up on EBay and one of these days
I'll buy one back.
http :// cgi.ebay,com /TOKAI-SPRINGY-SOUND-42-STRATOCASTER W0QQitemZ290229475461QQihZ019QQcategoryZ2384QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
On May 14, 7:38 am, jimmy <bigtoeh...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> Here's one take on lawsuit guitars. I wonder how true this is.
>
> http :// www .guitarattack,com /destroyer/lawsuit.htm
>
> tony
I have owned two "lawsuit" guitars in my past, never knowing what I
had at the time. One a Gibson Les Paul copy by Electra the second a
Fender Strart copy by Tokai, they both copied the trademark headstock
design of Fender and Gibson. The Electra was a piece of crap, the
Tokai was a very fine guitar, better in fact that two American build
Starts I owned over the years.
Every once in a while they will turn up on EBay and one of these days
I'll buy one back.
http :// cgi.ebay,com /TOKAI-SPRINGY-SOUND-42-STRATOCASTER W0QQitemZ290229475461QQihZ019QQcategoryZ2384QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
