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Question for Lord Valve
Hi Lord Valve, I just started reading Daniel Levitin's book, "This is
Your Brain on Music" and in the introduction he says that in his
college days he listened to music at such high volumes that: "I
actually set my loudspeakers on fire by cranking the volume too high."
Is this hyperbole, or can this really happen? Thanks.
Hi Lord Valve, I just started reading Daniel Levitin's book, "This is
Your Brain on Music" and in the introduction he says that in his
college days he listened to music at such high volumes that: "I
actually set my loudspeakers on fire by cranking the volume too high."
Is this hyperbole, or can this really happen? Thanks.
Re: Question for Lord Valve
luvpocket@hotmail,com wrote:
> Hi Lord Valve, I just started reading Daniel Levitin's book, "This is
> Your Brain on Music" and in the introduction he says that in his
> college days he listened to music at such high volumes that: "I
> actually set my loudspeakers on fire by cranking the volume too high."
> Is this hyperbole, or can this really happen? Thanks.
Yes, in fact, loudspeakers can catch fire with very heavy use.
It's not common for this to happen with home-type speakers,
though, because the amps typically used with them usually
don't have enough power to heat the speaker voice coils
to red heat. Pro rigs, however, often incorporate amplifiers
of several thousand watts, and a red-hot voice coil can
ignite the paper cone of the speaker. This was much more
common in the old days, when most voice coil formers
(the hollow tube the voice coil is wound on) were made
from paper. Nowadays, voice coil formers are made
from Kevlar or other high-temperature materials (including
aluminum) and it's rare for an open flame to result, although
much smoke can be emitted. Don't ask how I know this. ;-)
Lord Valve
BTDT
luvpocket@hotmail,com wrote:
> Hi Lord Valve, I just started reading Daniel Levitin's book, "This is
> Your Brain on Music" and in the introduction he says that in his
> college days he listened to music at such high volumes that: "I
> actually set my loudspeakers on fire by cranking the volume too high."
> Is this hyperbole, or can this really happen? Thanks.
Yes, in fact, loudspeakers can catch fire with very heavy use.
It's not common for this to happen with home-type speakers,
though, because the amps typically used with them usually
don't have enough power to heat the speaker voice coils
to red heat. Pro rigs, however, often incorporate amplifiers
of several thousand watts, and a red-hot voice coil can
ignite the paper cone of the speaker. This was much more
common in the old days, when most voice coil formers
(the hollow tube the voice coil is wound on) were made
from paper. Nowadays, voice coil formers are made
from Kevlar or other high-temperature materials (including
aluminum) and it's rare for an open flame to result, although
much smoke can be emitted. Don't ask how I know this. ;-)
Lord Valve
BTDT
Re: Question for Lord Valve
I caught a few 6x9's on fire back in the day, having obtained about 20
of them for $1 each in the early 90s. They were 10 Watt size and
Radio Shack had discontinued them and cleared them out, I bought all I
could. Put 100 Watts through them and you will see some smoke. Might
even light a cheapo cardboard cone on fire. They don't make that kind
anymore, and I don't think anyone misses them.
And of course a homemade power amplifier might lose a power transistor
and shove 50 Volts DC through such a speaker, that would also produce
amusing results.
I caught a few 6x9's on fire back in the day, having obtained about 20
of them for $1 each in the early 90s. They were 10 Watt size and
Radio Shack had discontinued them and cleared them out, I bought all I
could. Put 100 Watts through them and you will see some smoke. Might
even light a cheapo cardboard cone on fire. They don't make that kind
anymore, and I don't think anyone misses them.
And of course a homemade power amplifier might lose a power transistor
and shove 50 Volts DC through such a speaker, that would also produce
amusing results.
Re: Question for Lord Valve
On Apr 30, 5:00 pm, Lord Valve <detri...@ix,net com,com > wrote:
> luvpoc...@hotmail,com wrote:
> > Hi Lord Valve, I just started reading Daniel Levitin's book, "This is
> > Your Brain on Music" and in the introduction he says that in his
> > college days he listened to music at such high volumes that: "I
> > actually set my loudspeakers on fire by cranking the volume too high."
> > Is this hyperbole, or can this really happen? Thanks.
>
> Yes, in fact, loudspeakers can catch fire with very heavy use.
>
> It's not common for this to happen with home-type speakers,
> though, because the amps typically used with them usually
> don't have enough power to heat the speaker voice coils
> to red heat. Pro rigs, however, often incorporate amplifiers
> of several thousand watts, and a red-hot voice coil can
> ignite the paper cone of the speaker. This was much more
> common in the old days, when most voice coil formers
> (the hollow tube the voice coil is wound on) were made
> from paper. Nowadays, voice coil formers are made
> from Kevlar or other high-temperature materials (including
> aluminum) and it's rare for an open flame to result, although
> much smoke can be emitted. Don't ask how I know this. ;-)
>
> Lord Valve
> BTDT
Thanks, and I'll just assume you know this from personal experience!
Mike
On Apr 30, 5:00 pm, Lord Valve <detri...@ix,net com,com > wrote:
> luvpoc...@hotmail,com wrote:
> > Hi Lord Valve, I just started reading Daniel Levitin's book, "This is
> > Your Brain on Music" and in the introduction he says that in his
> > college days he listened to music at such high volumes that: "I
> > actually set my loudspeakers on fire by cranking the volume too high."
> > Is this hyperbole, or can this really happen? Thanks.
>
> Yes, in fact, loudspeakers can catch fire with very heavy use.
>
> It's not common for this to happen with home-type speakers,
> though, because the amps typically used with them usually
> don't have enough power to heat the speaker voice coils
> to red heat. Pro rigs, however, often incorporate amplifiers
> of several thousand watts, and a red-hot voice coil can
> ignite the paper cone of the speaker. This was much more
> common in the old days, when most voice coil formers
> (the hollow tube the voice coil is wound on) were made
> from paper. Nowadays, voice coil formers are made
> from Kevlar or other high-temperature materials (including
> aluminum) and it's rare for an open flame to result, although
> much smoke can be emitted. Don't ask how I know this. ;-)
>
> Lord Valve
> BTDT
Thanks, and I'll just assume you know this from personal experience!
Mike
Re: Question for Lord Valve
luvpocket@hotmail,com wrote:
> On Apr 30, 5:00 pm, Lord Valve <detri...@ix,net com,com > wrote:
> > luvpoc...@hotmail,com wrote:
> > > Hi Lord Valve, I just started reading Daniel Levitin's book, "This is
> > > Your Brain on Music" and in the introduction he says that in his
> > > college days he listened to music at such high volumes that: "I
> > > actually set my loudspeakers on fire by cranking the volume too high."
> > > Is this hyperbole, or can this really happen? Thanks.
> >
> > Yes, in fact, loudspeakers can catch fire with very heavy use.
> >
> > It's not common for this to happen with home-type speakers,
> > though, because the amps typically used with them usually
> > don't have enough power to heat the speaker voice coils
> > to red heat. Pro rigs, however, often incorporate amplifiers
> > of several thousand watts, and a red-hot voice coil can
> > ignite the paper cone of the speaker. This was much more
> > common in the old days, when most voice coil formers
> > (the hollow tube the voice coil is wound on) were made
> > from paper. Nowadays, voice coil formers are made
> > from Kevlar or other high-temperature materials (including
> > aluminum) and it's rare for an open flame to result, although
> > much smoke can be emitted. Don't ask how I know this. ;-)
> >
> > Lord Valve
> > BTDT
>
> Thanks, and I'll just assume you know this from personal experience!
>
> Mike
Who, me?
LV
luvpocket@hotmail,com wrote:
> On Apr 30, 5:00 pm, Lord Valve <detri...@ix,net com,com > wrote:
> > luvpoc...@hotmail,com wrote:
> > > Hi Lord Valve, I just started reading Daniel Levitin's book, "This is
> > > Your Brain on Music" and in the introduction he says that in his
> > > college days he listened to music at such high volumes that: "I
> > > actually set my loudspeakers on fire by cranking the volume too high."
> > > Is this hyperbole, or can this really happen? Thanks.
> >
> > Yes, in fact, loudspeakers can catch fire with very heavy use.
> >
> > It's not common for this to happen with home-type speakers,
> > though, because the amps typically used with them usually
> > don't have enough power to heat the speaker voice coils
> > to red heat. Pro rigs, however, often incorporate amplifiers
> > of several thousand watts, and a red-hot voice coil can
> > ignite the paper cone of the speaker. This was much more
> > common in the old days, when most voice coil formers
> > (the hollow tube the voice coil is wound on) were made
> > from paper. Nowadays, voice coil formers are made
> > from Kevlar or other high-temperature materials (including
> > aluminum) and it's rare for an open flame to result, although
> > much smoke can be emitted. Don't ask how I know this. ;-)
> >
> > Lord Valve
> > BTDT
>
> Thanks, and I'll just assume you know this from personal experience!
>
> Mike
Who, me?
LV
Re: Question for Lord Valve
<luvpocket@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:12cb89c9-70d8-42ec-ad3d-d623ba05d6e2@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups,com ...
> Hi Lord Valve, I just started reading Daniel Levitin's book, "This is
> Your Brain on Music" and in the introduction he says that in his
> college days he listened to music at such high volumes that: "I
> actually set my loudspeakers on fire by cranking the volume too high."
> Is this hyperbole, or can this really happen? Thanks.
I did it once by playing guitar through an old Scott receiver into a cheapo
speaker. I laughed so hard I almost pissed myself.
<luvpocket@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:12cb89c9-70d8-42ec-ad3d-d623ba05d6e2@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups,com ...
> Hi Lord Valve, I just started reading Daniel Levitin's book, "This is
> Your Brain on Music" and in the introduction he says that in his
> college days he listened to music at such high volumes that: "I
> actually set my loudspeakers on fire by cranking the volume too high."
> Is this hyperbole, or can this really happen? Thanks.
I did it once by playing guitar through an old Scott receiver into a cheapo
speaker. I laughed so hard I almost pissed myself.
Re: Question for Lord Valve
luvpocket@hotmail,com wrote:
> Hi Lord Valve, I just started reading Daniel Levitin's book, "This is
> Your Brain on Music" and in the introduction he says that in his
> college days he listened to music at such high volumes that: "I
> actually set my loudspeakers on fire by cranking the volume too high."
> Is this hyperbole, or can this really happen? Thanks.
I once put so much power at such a high frequency into a pair of ribbon
tweeters that sparks came out, and the tweeters were all scorched and
melted. The tweeters turned out to be made in England. Hard to find.
Expensive too. It was one of those educational moments.
luvpocket@hotmail,com wrote:
> Hi Lord Valve, I just started reading Daniel Levitin's book, "This is
> Your Brain on Music" and in the introduction he says that in his
> college days he listened to music at such high volumes that: "I
> actually set my loudspeakers on fire by cranking the volume too high."
> Is this hyperbole, or can this really happen? Thanks.
I once put so much power at such a high frequency into a pair of ribbon
tweeters that sparks came out, and the tweeters were all scorched and
melted. The tweeters turned out to be made in England. Hard to find.
Expensive too. It was one of those educational moments.
Re: Question for Lord Valve
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:02:37 -0700, "DGDevin"
<dgdevin@invalid.invalid> did courageously avow:
>luvpocket@hotmail,com wrote:
>
>> Hi Lord Valve, I just started reading Daniel Levitin's book, "This is
>> Your Brain on Music" and in the introduction he says that in his
>> college days he listened to music at such high volumes that: "I
>> actually set my loudspeakers on fire by cranking the volume too high."
>> Is this hyperbole, or can this really happen? Thanks.
>
>I once put so much power at such a high frequency into a pair of ribbon
>tweeters that sparks came out, and the tweeters were all scorched and
>melted. The tweeters turned out to be made in England. Hard to find.
>Expensive too. It was one of those educational moments.
>
These tweeters weren't made by Lucas by any chance were they?
--
Ken Wilson
http :// www .myspace,com /bcislander
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:02:37 -0700, "DGDevin"
<dgdevin@invalid.invalid> did courageously avow:
>luvpocket@hotmail,com wrote:
>
>> Hi Lord Valve, I just started reading Daniel Levitin's book, "This is
>> Your Brain on Music" and in the introduction he says that in his
>> college days he listened to music at such high volumes that: "I
>> actually set my loudspeakers on fire by cranking the volume too high."
>> Is this hyperbole, or can this really happen? Thanks.
>
>I once put so much power at such a high frequency into a pair of ribbon
>tweeters that sparks came out, and the tweeters were all scorched and
>melted. The tweeters turned out to be made in England. Hard to find.
>Expensive too. It was one of those educational moments.
>
These tweeters weren't made by Lucas by any chance were they?
--
Ken Wilson
http :// www .myspace,com /bcislander
Re: Question for Lord Valve
>> I once put so much power at such a high frequency into a pair of
>> ribbon tweeters that sparks came out, and the tweeters were all
>> scorched and melted. The tweeters turned out to be made in England.
>> Hard to find. Expensive too. It was one of those educational
>> moments.
>>
> These tweeters weren't made by Lucas by any chance were they?
Nope, I think it was one of the well-known Brit speaker companies,
Wharfedale maybe? I was lucky enough to find an electronics company that
had replacements with a slightly different mounting plate which I was able
to use. Awesome tweeters, clean as a hound's tooth.
>> I once put so much power at such a high frequency into a pair of
>> ribbon tweeters that sparks came out, and the tweeters were all
>> scorched and melted. The tweeters turned out to be made in England.
>> Hard to find. Expensive too. It was one of those educational
>> moments.
>>
> These tweeters weren't made by Lucas by any chance were they?
Nope, I think it was one of the well-known Brit speaker companies,
Wharfedale maybe? I was lucky enough to find an electronics company that
had replacements with a slightly different mounting plate which I was able
to use. Awesome tweeters, clean as a hound's tooth.
Re: Question for Lord Valve
On Apr 30, 3:02=EF=BF=BDpm, "DGDevin" <dgde...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> luvpoc...@hotmail,com wrote:
> > Hi Lord Valve, I just started reading Daniel Levitin's book, "This is
> > Your Brain on Music" and in the introduction he says that in his
> > college days he listened to music at such high volumes that: "I
> > actually set my loudspeakers on fire by cranking the volume too high."
> > Is this hyperbole, or can this really happen? Thanks.
>
> I once put so much power at such a high frequency into a pair of ribbon
> tweeters that sparks came out, and the tweeters were all scorched and
> melted. =EF=BF=BDThe tweeters turned out to be made in England. =EF=BF=BDH=
ard to find.
> Expensive too. =EF=BF=BDIt was one of those educational moments.
Uhm, it was a question for Lord Valve, not Lord Fife.
No one gives a fuck, Dim Goob.
Why don't you and your twin nerd buddy have a good game of paintball
and then suckball.
No one gives a shit what you say.
"Yeah, according to the pedantic pervert Devin conspiracies don't
exist - only conspiracy kooks exist. His reasoning - the government
always tells the truth and the corporate mass media never lies." - Ed
Blum
On Apr 30, 3:02=EF=BF=BDpm, "DGDevin" <dgde...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> luvpoc...@hotmail,com wrote:
> > Hi Lord Valve, I just started reading Daniel Levitin's book, "This is
> > Your Brain on Music" and in the introduction he says that in his
> > college days he listened to music at such high volumes that: "I
> > actually set my loudspeakers on fire by cranking the volume too high."
> > Is this hyperbole, or can this really happen? Thanks.
>
> I once put so much power at such a high frequency into a pair of ribbon
> tweeters that sparks came out, and the tweeters were all scorched and
> melted. =EF=BF=BDThe tweeters turned out to be made in England. =EF=BF=BDH=
ard to find.
> Expensive too. =EF=BF=BDIt was one of those educational moments.
Uhm, it was a question for Lord Valve, not Lord Fife.
No one gives a fuck, Dim Goob.
Why don't you and your twin nerd buddy have a good game of paintball
and then suckball.
No one gives a shit what you say.
"Yeah, according to the pedantic pervert Devin conspiracies don't
exist - only conspiracy kooks exist. His reasoning - the government
always tells the truth and the corporate mass media never lies." - Ed
Blum
