1980 vs. 2008

1980 vs. 2008

1980: CEO's earn 40 X Average Worker's Salary

2008: CEO's earn 433 X Average Worker's Salary

Most Disgusting Awards
Company performance = failure, CEO Massive $$$$):

Tobin Boston Scientific
Sharer Amgen
Mozilo Countrywide
Forsee Sprint (Now a filthy $$$ Univ. Pres.)

Democracy is dead in McCorporate 'Murka. If you don't think we live in a
Corpocracy, tell me why...

Re: 1980 vs. 2008


"Truth~Seeker" <"fixing-44182"@.REMOVAL~mypacks,net > wrote in message news:bsKdnbodfuXy9oTVnZ2dnUVZ_tajnZ2d@giganews,com ...
> 1980: CEO's earn 40 X Average Worker's Salary
>
> 2008: CEO's earn 433 X Average Worker's Salary
>
> Most Disgusting Awards
> Company performance = failure, CEO Massive $$$$):
>
> Tobin Boston Scientific
> Sharer Amgen
> Mozilo Countrywide
> Forsee Sprint (Now a filthy $$$ Univ. Pres.)
>
> Democracy is dead in McCorporate 'Murka. If you don't think we live in a
> Corpocracy, tell me why...


cause I'm too stupid to think, (period) ?

Re: 1980 vs. 2008

Dave Moore wrote:
> "Truth~Seeker" <"fixing-44182"@.REMOVAL~mypacks,net > wrote in message news:bsKdnbodfuXy9oTVnZ2dnUVZ tajnZ2d@giganews,com ...
>> 1980: CEO's earn 40 X Average Worker's Salary
>>
>> 2008: CEO's earn 433 X Average Worker's Salary
>>
>> Most Disgusting Awards
>> Company performance = failure, CEO Massive $$$$):
>>
>> Tobin Boston Scientific
>> Sharer Amgen
>> Mozilo Countrywide
>> Forsee Sprint (Now a filthy $$$ Univ. Pres.)
>>
>> Democracy is dead in McCorporate 'Murka. If you don't think we live in a
>> Corpocracy, tell me why...
>
>
> cause I'm too stupid to think, (period) ?
>
>
Rhetorical response to a non-rhetorical question noted Dave :-). I just
wonder if any of these guys really have a grasp on the runaway market
fundamentalism which appears to have temporarily decimated the ideals of
Democracy in this nation. The extent to which avarice at the top of all
of societies mechanisms have not merely "been eating away at the
fabric", but have managed to consume it and deficate it back out as the
vulgar, disrespectful, intensely angry, divisive / split union now
passing for these "United" States. When Ike called the "military
industrial complex" for what it is, he clearly foresaw the potential for
American Fascism. When enough people's paychecks are hinged to the war
machine, Edmund Burke's sage observation: "Evil is what happens when
good people look the other way", becomes the nation's unspoken motto.

The black heart and dead souls of the Nazi Germany's SS is unfortunately
alive and sick, doing all it can to "bwahahahahaha" all that kept our
innocent chilhoods earnest every morning, as we mouthed the words
"One Nation Under God".

Well, imo, unless wiser heads prevail and unify, redistribute and
reunite, we'll temporarily remain one nation...but God will have left
us for elsewhere and a darkness not seen since...

"...The Dark Ages

Early scholars gave the name "Dark Ages" to the period in Europe after
the fall of the Roman Empire. During this period, barbarian Goths,
Vandals, and Huns swept down on Europe from the north and east. They
destroyed many fine buildings and works of art that had existed during
Roman times. During the Dark Ages, knowledge survived only in
monasteries, and there were very few schools. Many of the old arts and
crafts were lost. This is why the time was called the "Dark Ages."

The eastern Roman Empire was not conquered by the barbarians. There, the
arts still flourished. People were still thinking and making fine works
of art in other parts of the world. In China and India, great
civilizations grew and spread. In the 1000s, Europe began to slowly
recover from its artistic darkness. The lost knowledge of the ancient
Greeks and Romans was found again. There was a new interest in learning,
and the richer life of the Middle Ages began...."

Athens--->Rome--->London---->Washington D.C.

Next stop Beijing? New Delhi?

"...In China and India, great civilizations grew and spread..."

One gets the chilling sense that our Rome has finally begun to rot. With
God's Grace enough of us will prevail. I was born in 1957 and find
myself grateful that I won't be around to witness 2065 and beyond, as
things have been heading...

OT: 1980 vs. 2008

> Truth~Seeker wrote:
>
> Dave Moore wrote:
>
>> "Truth~Seeker" <"fixing-44182"@.REMOVAL~mypacks,net > wrote in message
>> news:bsKdnbodfuXy9oTVnZ2dnUVZ tajnZ2d@giganews,com ...
>>
>>> 1980: CEO's earn 40 X Average Worker's Salary
>>>
>>> 2008: CEO's earn 433 X Average Worker's Salary
>>>
>>> Most Disgusting Awards
>>> Company performance = failure, CEO Massive $$$$):
>>>
>>> Tobin Boston Scientific
>>> Sharer Amgen
>>> Mozilo Countrywide
>>> Forsee Sprint (Now a filthy $$$ Univ. Pres.)
>>>
>>> Democracy is dead in McCorporate 'Murka. If you don't think we live in a
>>> Corpocracy, tell me why...
>>
>>
>> cause I'm too stupid to think, (period) ? DM
>>
>>
> Facetious response to a non-rhetorical question noted Dave :-)! I just
> wonder if any of these guys really have a grasp on the runaway market
> fundamentalism which appears to have temporarily decimated the ideals of
> Democracy in this nation. The extent to which avarice at the top of all
> of societies mechanisms have not merely "been eating away at the
> fabric", but have managed to consume it and deficate it back out as the
> vulgar, disrespectful, intensely angry, divisive / split union now
> passing for these "United" States. When Ike called the "military
> industrial complex" for what it is, he clearly foresaw the potential for
> American Fascism. When enough people's paychecks are hinged to the war
> machine, Edmund Burke's sage observation: "Evil is what happens when
> good people look the other way", becomes the nation's unspoken motto.
>
> The black heart and dead souls of the Nazi Germany's SS is unfortunately
> alive and sick, doing all it can to "bwahahahahaha" all that kept our
> innocent chilhoods earnest every morning, as we mouthed the words
> "One Nation Under God".
>
> Well, imo, unless wiser heads prevail and unify, redistribute and
> reunite, we'll temporarily remain one nation...but God will have left
> us for elsewhere and a darkness not seen since...
>
> "...The Dark Ages
>
> Early scholars gave the name "Dark Ages" to the period in Europe after
> the fall of the Roman Empire. During this period, barbarian Goths,
> Vandals, and Huns swept down on Europe from the north and east. They
> destroyed many fine buildings and works of art that had existed during
> Roman times. During the Dark Ages, knowledge survived only in
> monasteries, and there were very few schools. Many of the old arts and
> crafts were lost. This is why the time was called the "Dark Ages."
>
> The eastern Roman Empire was not conquered by the barbarians. There, the
> arts still flourished. People were still thinking and making fine works
> of art in other parts of the world. In China and India, great
> civilizations grew and spread. In the 1000s, Europe began to slowly
> recover from its artistic darkness. The lost knowledge of the ancient
> Greeks and Romans was found again. There was a new interest in learning,
> and the richer life of the Middle Ages began...."
>
> Athens--->Rome--->London---->Washington D.C.
>
> Next stop Beijing? New Delhi?
>
> "...In China and India, great civilizations grew and spread..."
>
> One gets the chilling sense that our Rome has finally begun to rot. With
> God's Grace enough of us will prevail. I was born in 1957 and find
> myself grateful that I won't be around to witness 2065 and beyond, as
> things have been heading...
>
>
>
Interesting how not one hay8r / mudslinger has a thing to say in
response to this.

It's similar to info. I wrote up about my under-the-fingers guitar
players approach to modes, both major and a few melodic minor for
jazz/rock/fusion apps.

The among us resort to false accusations of plagerism, rather
than acknowledge, engage or inquire. These are the same types apt to
screech about spelling or syntax errors, claim the other guy is "on
meds", or howl that he's got some sort of "medical or criminal" record
in a debased effort to discredit.

One such low life is now under the scrutiny of the U.S. Secret Service.
If/and/or when he pops up again, I suspect that while he is personally
incapable of modifying his demented pathology, he'll assiduously avoid
any/all implied threat references to presidential candidates.

+ Regards and Peace to all the Good Guys here,

mvm

Re: OT: 1980 vs. 2008

On May 2, 4:36 am, Truth~Seeker <"fixing-44182"@.REMOVAL~mypacks,net >
wrote:
> > Truth~Seeker wrote:
>
> > Dave Moore wrote:
>
> >> "Truth~Seeker" <"fixing-44182"@.REMOVAL~mypacks,net > wrote in message
> >>news:bsKdnbodfuXy9oTVnZ2dnUVZ tajnZ2d@giganews,com ...
>
> >>> 1980: CEO's earn 40 X Average Worker's Salary
>
> >>> 2008: CEO's earn 433 X Average Worker's Salary
>
> >>> Most Disgusting Awards
> >>> Company performance = failure, CEO Massive $$$$):
>
> >>> Tobin Boston Scientific
> >>> Sharer Amgen
> >>> Mozilo Countrywide
> >>> Forsee Sprint (Now a filthy $$$ Univ. Pres.)
>
> >>> Democracy is dead in McCorporate 'Murka. If you don't think we live in a
> >>> Corpocracy, tell me why...
>
> >> cause I'm too stupid to think, (period) ? DM
>
> > Facetious response to a non-rhetorical question noted Dave :-)! I just
> > wonder if any of these guys really have a grasp on the runaway market
> > fundamentalism which appears to have temporarily decimated the ideals of
> > Democracy in this nation. The extent to which avarice at the top of all
> > of societies mechanisms have not merely "been eating away at the
> > fabric", but have managed to consume it and deficate it back out as the
> > vulgar, disrespectful, intensely angry, divisive / split union now
> > passing for these "United" States. When Ike called the "military
> > industrial complex" for what it is, he clearly foresaw the potential for
> > American Fascism. When enough people's paychecks are hinged to the war
> > machine, Edmund Burke's sage observation: "Evil is what happens when
> > good people look the other way", becomes the nation's unspoken motto.
>
> > The black heart and dead souls of the Nazi Germany's SS is unfortunately
> > alive and sick, doing all it can to "bwahahahahaha" all that kept our
> > innocent chilhoods earnest every morning, as we mouthed the words
> > "One Nation Under God".
>
> > Well, imo, unless wiser heads prevail and unify, redistribute and
> > reunite, we'll temporarily remain one nation...but God will have left
> > us for elsewhere and a darkness not seen since...
>
> > "...The Dark Ages
>
> > Early scholars gave the name "Dark Ages" to the period in Europe after
> > the fall of the Roman Empire. During this period, barbarian Goths,
> > Vandals, and Huns swept down on Europe from the north and east. They
> > destroyed many fine buildings and works of art that had existed during
> > Roman times. During the Dark Ages, knowledge survived only in
> > monasteries, and there were very few schools. Many of the old arts and
> > crafts were lost. This is why the time was called the "Dark Ages."
>
> > The eastern Roman Empire was not conquered by the barbarians. There, the
> > arts still flourished. People were still thinking and making fine works
> > of art in other parts of the world. In China and India, great
> > civilizations grew and spread. In the 1000s, Europe began to slowly
> > recover from its artistic darkness. The lost knowledge of the ancient
> > Greeks and Romans was found again. There was a new interest in learning,
> > and the richer life of the Middle Ages began...."
>
> > Athens--->Rome--->London---->Washington D.C.
>
> > Next stop Beijing? New Delhi?
>
> > "...In China and India, great civilizations grew and spread..."
>
> > One gets the chilling sense that our Rome has finally begun to rot. With
> > God's Grace enough of us will prevail. I was born in 1957 and find
> > myself grateful that I won't be around to witness 2065 and beyond, as
> > things have been heading...
>
> Interesting how not one hay8r / mudslinger has a thing to say in
> response to this.
>
> It's similar to info. I wrote up about my under-the-fingers guitar
> players approach to modes, both major and a few melodic minor for
> jazz/rock/fusion apps.
>
> The among us resort to false accusations of plagerism, rather
> than acknowledge, engage or inquire. These are the same types apt to
> screech about spelling or syntax errors, claim the other guy is "on
> meds", or howl that he's got some sort of "medical or criminal" record
> in a debased effort to discredit.
>
> One such low life is now under the scrutiny of the U.S. Secret Service.
> If/and/or when he pops up again, I suspect that while he is personally
> incapable of modifying his demented pathology, he'll assiduously avoid
> any/all implied threat references to presidential candidates.
>
> + Regards and Peace to all the Good Guys here,
>
> mvm


Here is a response: You don't need the "ay" in "hay8r;" the "8"
covers that sound all on it's own.

RichCI
"Hipper" than you

Re: OT: 1980 vs. 2008

RichCI wrote:
> On May 2, 4:36 am, Truth~Seeker <"fixing-44182"@.REMOVAL~mypacks,net >
> wrote:
>>> Truth~Seeker wrote:
>>> Dave Moore wrote:
>>>> "Truth~Seeker" <"fixing-44182"@.REMOVAL~mypacks,net > wrote in message
>>>> news:bsKdnbodfuXy9oTVnZ2dnUVZ tajnZ2d@giganews,com ...
>>>>> 1980: CEO's earn 40 X Average Worker's Salary
>>>>> 2008: CEO's earn 433 X Average Worker's Salary
>>>>> Most Disgusting Awards
>>>>> Company performance = failure, CEO Massive $$$$):
>>>>> Tobin Boston Scientific
>>>>> Sharer Amgen
>>>>> Mozilo Countrywide
>>>>> Forsee Sprint (Now a filthy $$$ Univ. Pres.)
>>>>> Democracy is dead in McCorporate 'Murka. If you don't think we live in a
>>>>> Corpocracy, tell me why...
>>>> cause I'm too stupid to think, (period) ? DM
>>> Facetious response to a non-rhetorical question noted Dave :-)! I just
>>> wonder if any of these guys really have a grasp on the runaway market
>>> fundamentalism which appears to have temporarily decimated the ideals of
>>> Democracy in this nation. The extent to which avarice at the top of all
>>> of societies mechanisms have not merely "been eating away at the
>>> fabric", but have managed to consume it and deficate it back out as the
>>> vulgar, disrespectful, intensely angry, divisive / split union now
>>> passing for these "United" States. When Ike called the "military
>>> industrial complex" for what it is, he clearly foresaw the potential for
>>> American Fascism. When enough people's paychecks are hinged to the war
>>> machine, Edmund Burke's sage observation: "Evil is what happens when
>>> good people look the other way", becomes the nation's unspoken motto.
>>> The black heart and dead souls of the Nazi Germany's SS is unfortunately
>>> alive and sick, doing all it can to "bwahahahahaha" all that kept our
>>> innocent chilhoods earnest every morning, as we mouthed the words
>>> "One Nation Under God".
>>> Well, imo, unless wiser heads prevail and unify, redistribute and
>>> reunite, we'll temporarily remain one nation...but God will have left
>>> us for elsewhere and a darkness not seen since...
>>> "...The Dark Ages
>>> Early scholars gave the name "Dark Ages" to the period in Europe after
>>> the fall of the Roman Empire. During this period, barbarian Goths,
>>> Vandals, and Huns swept down on Europe from the north and east. They
>>> destroyed many fine buildings and works of art that had existed during
>>> Roman times. During the Dark Ages, knowledge survived only in
>>> monasteries, and there were very few schools. Many of the old arts and
>>> crafts were lost. This is why the time was called the "Dark Ages."
>>> The eastern Roman Empire was not conquered by the barbarians. There, the
>>> arts still flourished. People were still thinking and making fine works
>>> of art in other parts of the world. In China and India, great
>>> civilizations grew and spread. In the 1000s, Europe began to slowly
>>> recover from its artistic darkness. The lost knowledge of the ancient
>>> Greeks and Romans was found again. There was a new interest in learning,
>>> and the richer life of the Middle Ages began...."
>>> Athens--->Rome--->London---->Washington D.C.
>>> Next stop Beijing? New Delhi?
>>> "...In China and India, great civilizations grew and spread..."
>>> One gets the chilling sense that our Rome has finally begun to rot. With
>>> God's Grace enough of us will prevail. I was born in 1957 and find
>>> myself grateful that I won't be around to witness 2065 and beyond, as
>>> things have been heading...
>> Interesting how not one hay8r / mudslinger has a thing to say in
>> response to this.
>>
>> It's similar to info. I wrote up about my under-the-fingers guitar
>> players approach to modes, both major and a few melodic minor for
>> jazz/rock/fusion apps.
>>
>> The among us resort to false accusations of plagerism, rather
>> than acknowledge, engage or inquire. These are the same types apt to
>> screech about spelling or syntax errors, claim the other guy is "on
>> meds", or howl that he's got some sort of "medical or criminal" record
>> in a debased effort to discredit.
>>
>> One such low life is now under the scrutiny of the U.S. Secret Service.
>> If/and/or when he pops up again, I suspect that while he is personally
>> incapable of modifying his demented pathology, he'll assiduously avoid
>> any/all implied threat references to presidential candidates.
>>
>> + Regards and Peace to all the Good Guys here,
>>
>> mvm
>
>
> Here is a response: You don't need the "ay" in "hay8r;" the "8"
> covers that sound all on it's own.
>
> RichCI
> "Hipper" than you

F- But, you're trying. :-)

Re: OT: 1980 vs. 2008

Truth~Seeker wrote:

> > Truth~Seeker wrote:
> >
> > Dave Moore wrote:
> >
> >> "Truth~Seeker" <"fixing-44182"@.REMOVAL~mypacks,net > wrote in message
> >> news:bsKdnbodfuXy9oTVnZ2dnUVZ_tajnZ2d@giganews,com ...
> >>
> >>> 1980: CEO's earn 40 X Average Worker's Salary
> >>>
> >>> 2008: CEO's earn 433 X Average Worker's Salary
> >>>
> >>> Most Disgusting Awards
> >>> Company performance = failure, CEO Massive $$$$):
> >>>
> >>> Tobin Boston Scientific
> >>> Sharer Amgen
> >>> Mozilo Countrywide
> >>> Forsee Sprint (Now a filthy $$$ Univ. Pres.)
> >>>
> >>> Democracy is dead in McCorporate 'Murka. If you don't think we live in a
> >>> Corpocracy, tell me why...
> >>
> >>
> >> cause I'm too stupid to think, (period) ? DM
> >>
> >>
> > Facetious response to a non-rhetorical question noted Dave :-)! I just
> > wonder if any of these guys really have a grasp on the runaway market
> > fundamentalism which appears to have temporarily decimated the ideals of
> > Democracy in this nation. The extent to which avarice at the top of all
> > of societies mechanisms have not merely "been eating away at the
> > fabric", but have managed to consume it and deficate it back out as the
> > vulgar, disrespectful, intensely angry, divisive / split union now
> > passing for these "United" States. When Ike called the "military
> > industrial complex" for what it is, he clearly foresaw the potential for
> > American Fascism. When enough people's paychecks are hinged to the war
> > machine, Edmund Burke's sage observation: "Evil is what happens when
> > good people look the other way", becomes the nation's unspoken motto.
> >
> > The black heart and dead souls of the Nazi Germany's SS is unfortunately
> > alive and sick, doing all it can to "bwahahahahaha" all that kept our
> > innocent chilhoods earnest every morning, as we mouthed the words
> > "One Nation Under God".
> >
> > Well, imo, unless wiser heads prevail and unify, redistribute and
> > reunite, we'll temporarily remain one nation...but God will have left
> > us for elsewhere and a darkness not seen since...
> >
> > "...The Dark Ages
> >
> > Early scholars gave the name "Dark Ages" to the period in Europe after
> > the fall of the Roman Empire. During this period, barbarian Goths,
> > Vandals, and Huns swept down on Europe from the north and east. They
> > destroyed many fine buildings and works of art that had existed during
> > Roman times. During the Dark Ages, knowledge survived only in
> > monasteries, and there were very few schools. Many of the old arts and
> > crafts were lost. This is why the time was called the "Dark Ages."
> >
> > The eastern Roman Empire was not conquered by the barbarians. There, the
> > arts still flourished. People were still thinking and making fine works
> > of art in other parts of the world. In China and India, great
> > civilizations grew and spread. In the 1000s, Europe began to slowly
> > recover from its artistic darkness. The lost knowledge of the ancient
> > Greeks and Romans was found again. There was a new interest in learning,
> > and the richer life of the Middle Ages began...."
> >
> > Athens--->Rome--->London---->Washington D.C.
> >
> > Next stop Beijing? New Delhi?
> >
> > "...In China and India, great civilizations grew and spread..."
> >
> > One gets the chilling sense that our Rome has finally begun to rot. With
> > God's Grace enough of us will prevail. I was born in 1957 and find
> > myself grateful that I won't be around to witness 2065 and beyond, as
> > things have been heading...
> >
> >
> >
> Interesting how not one hay8r / mudslinger has a thing to say in
> response to this.
>
> It's similar to info. I wrote up about my under-the-fingers guitar
> players approach to modes, both major and a few melodic minor for
> jazz/rock/fusion apps.
>
> The ______ among us resort to false accusations of plagerism, rather
> than acknowledge, engage or inquire. These are the same types apt to
> screech about spelling or syntax errors, claim the other guy is "on
> meds", or howl that he's got some sort of "medical or criminal" record
> in a debased effort to discredit.
>
> One such low life is now under the scrutiny of the U.S. Secret Service.
> If/and/or when he pops up again, I suspect that while he is personally
> incapable of modifying his demented pathology, he'll assiduously avoid
> any/all implied threat references to presidential candidates.
>
> + Regards and Peace to all the Good Guys here,
>
> mvm

You're a fucking idiot.

I'll make a threat right here, where everyone can see it:
You'd better stop harrassing me on the telephone, or
I double-damn guarantee you I will sue you for it. Be
advised that your local switch records *everything*
you dial, whether you hang up before the called
party answers or not.

BTW - how's life as a stableboy? One might speculate
that your problem can be traced to horse-shit fumes.
Jenkem, anyone?

I haven't threatened any presidential candidates with
anything beyond promising that I won't vote for them,
and - in the unlikely event that the Secret Service
or the FBI (or whoever) gives any credence at all
to your little narkfest - anyone who takes a look at
my posts will understand that immediately. You've
placed yourself in the hilariously untenable position
of having reported someone for cutting a virtual
fart...and if anything untoward comes out of this,
I'll sue you for that, too.

Count on it, asshole.

Lord Valve
BaaaaarrrrAAAACCCKKKK! <Safety!>

Re: OT: 1980 vs. 2008

Lord Valve wrote:
> Truth~Seeker wrote:
>
>>> Truth~Seeker wrote:
>>>
>>> Dave Moore wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Truth~Seeker" <"fixing-44182"@.REMOVAL~mypacks,net > wrote in message
>>>> news:bsKdnbodfuXy9oTVnZ2dnUVZ tajnZ2d@giganews,com ...
>>>>
>>>>> 1980: CEO's earn 40 X Average Worker's Salary
>>>>>
>>>>> 2008: CEO's earn 433 X Average Worker's Salary
>>>>>
>>>>> Most Disgusting Awards
>>>>> Company performance = failure, CEO Massive $$$$):
>>>>>
>>>>> Tobin Boston Scientific
>>>>> Sharer Amgen
>>>>> Mozilo Countrywide
>>>>> Forsee Sprint (Now a filthy $$$ Univ. Pres.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Democracy is dead in McCorporate 'Murka. If you don't think we live in a
>>>>> Corpocracy, tell me why...
>>>>
>>>> cause I'm too stupid to think, (period) ? DM
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Facetious response to a non-rhetorical question noted Dave :-)! I just
>>> wonder if any of these guys really have a grasp on the runaway market
>>> fundamentalism which appears to have temporarily decimated the ideals of
>>> Democracy in this nation. The extent to which avarice at the top of all
>>> of societies mechanisms have not merely "been eating away at the
>>> fabric", but have managed to consume it and deficate it back out as the
>>> vulgar, disrespectful, intensely angry, divisive / split union now
>>> passing for these "United" States. When Ike called the "military
>>> industrial complex" for what it is, he clearly foresaw the potential for
>>> American Fascism. When enough people's paychecks are hinged to the war
>>> machine, Edmund Burke's sage observation: "Evil is what happens when
>>> good people look the other way", becomes the nation's unspoken motto.
>>>
>>> The black heart and dead souls of the Nazi Germany's SS is unfortunately
>>> alive and sick, doing all it can to "bwahahahahaha" all that kept our
>>> innocent chilhoods earnest every morning, as we mouthed the words
>>> "One Nation Under God".
>>>
>>> Well, imo, unless wiser heads prevail and unify, redistribute and
>>> reunite, we'll temporarily remain one nation...but God will have left
>>> us for elsewhere and a darkness not seen since...
>>>
>>> "...The Dark Ages
>>>
>>> Early scholars gave the name "Dark Ages" to the period in Europe after
>>> the fall of the Roman Empire. During this period, barbarian Goths,
>>> Vandals, and Huns swept down on Europe from the north and east. They
>>> destroyed many fine buildings and works of art that had existed during
>>> Roman times. During the Dark Ages, knowledge survived only in
>>> monasteries, and there were very few schools. Many of the old arts and
>>> crafts were lost. This is why the time was called the "Dark Ages."
>>>
>>> The eastern Roman Empire was not conquered by the barbarians. There, the
>>> arts still flourished. People were still thinking and making fine works
>>> of art in other parts of the world. In China and India, great
>>> civilizations grew and spread. In the 1000s, Europe began to slowly
>>> recover from its artistic darkness. The lost knowledge of the ancient
>>> Greeks and Romans was found again. There was a new interest in learning,
>>> and the richer life of the Middle Ages began...."
>>>
>>> Athens--->Rome--->London---->Washington D.C.
>>>
>>> Next stop Beijing? New Delhi?
>>>
>>> "...In China and India, great civilizations grew and spread..."
>>>
>>> One gets the chilling sense that our Rome has finally begun to rot. With
>>> God's Grace enough of us will prevail. I was born in 1957 and find
>>> myself grateful that I won't be around to witness 2065 and beyond, as
>>> things have been heading...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Interesting how not one hay8r / mudslinger has a thing to say in
>> response to this.
>>
>> It's similar to info. I wrote up about my under-the-fingers guitar
>> players approach to modes, both major and a few melodic minor for
>> jazz/rock/fusion apps.
>>
>> The among us resort to false accusations of plagerism, rather
>> than acknowledge, engage or inquire. These are the same types apt to
>> screech about spelling or syntax errors, claim the other guy is "on
>> meds", or howl that he's got some sort of "medical or criminal" record
>> in a debased effort to discredit.
>>
>> One such low life is now under the scrutiny of the U.S. Secret Service.
>> If/and/or when he pops up again, I suspect that while he is personally
>> incapable of modifying his demented pathology, he'll assiduously avoid
>> any/all implied threat references to presidential candidates.
>>
>> + Regards and Peace to all the Good Guys here,
>>
>> mvm
>
> You're a fucking idiot.
>
> I'll make a threat right here, where everyone can see it:
> You'd better stop harrassing me on the telephone, or
> I double-damn guarantee you I will sue you for it. Be
> advised that your local switch records *everything*
> you dial, whether you hang up before the called
> party answers or not.

In telephoning the Denver Secret Service, I misdialed NBS. (Same area
code, obviously).

This was what occurred:

Ring:

ANS: NBS Electronics

mvm: -I..,thought this was the number for the Secret Service

ANS: "YOU BETTER WATCH YOURSELF OR YOU'RE GONNA GET SUED! YOU SEE IF I
WON'T!"

> BTW - how's life as a stableboy? One might speculate
> that your problem can be traced to horse-shit fumes.
> Jenkem, anyone?
>

?! Insanity.

> I haven't threatened any presidential candidates with
> anything beyond promising that I won't vote for them,
> and - in the unlikely event that the Secret Service
> or the FBI (or whoever) gives any credence at all
> to your little narkfest - anyone who takes a look at
> my posts will understand that immediately. You've
> placed yourself in the hilariously untenable position
> of having reported someone for cutting a virtual
> fart...and if anything untoward comes out of this,
> I'll sue you for that, too.
>
> Count on it, asshole.
>
> Lord Valve
> BaaaaarrrrAAAACCCKKKK! <Safety!>>

What happened to your

Founder,H.A.R.M. (Heavily Armed Rightwing Maniacs)?

Sue, *this*, you ignorant, uneducated, lying, unethical, morbidly obese
shut in. :-) mvm

Re: OT: 1980 vs. 2008

On Fri, 02 May 2008 08:23:23 -0600, Lord Valve
<detritus@ix,net com,com > wrote:

>Truth~Seeker wrote:
>
>> > Truth~Seeker wrote:
>> >
>> > Dave Moore wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Truth~Seeker" <"fixing-44182"@.REMOVAL~mypacks,net > wrote in message
>> >> news:bsKdnbodfuXy9oTVnZ2dnUVZ_tajnZ2d@giganews,com ...
>> >>
>> >>> 1980: CEO's earn 40 X Average Worker's Salary
>> >>>
>> >>> 2008: CEO's earn 433 X Average Worker's Salary
>> >>>
>> >>> Most Disgusting Awards
>> >>> Company performance = failure, CEO Massive $$$$):
>> >>>
>> >>> Tobin Boston Scientific
>> >>> Sharer Amgen
>> >>> Mozilo Countrywide
>> >>> Forsee Sprint (Now a filthy $$$ Univ. Pres.)
>> >>>
>> >>> Democracy is dead in McCorporate 'Murka. If you don't think we live in a
>> >>> Corpocracy, tell me why...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> cause I'm too stupid to think, (period) ? DM
>> >>
>> >>
>> > Facetious response to a non-rhetorical question noted Dave :-)! I just
>> > wonder if any of these guys really have a grasp on the runaway market
>> > fundamentalism which appears to have temporarily decimated the ideals of
>> > Democracy in this nation. The extent to which avarice at the top of all
>> > of societies mechanisms have not merely "been eating away at the
>> > fabric", but have managed to consume it and deficate it back out as the
>> > vulgar, disrespectful, intensely angry, divisive / split union now
>> > passing for these "United" States. When Ike called the "military
>> > industrial complex" for what it is, he clearly foresaw the potential for
>> > American Fascism. When enough people's paychecks are hinged to the war
>> > machine, Edmund Burke's sage observation: "Evil is what happens when
>> > good people look the other way", becomes the nation's unspoken motto.
>> >
>> > The black heart and dead souls of the Nazi Germany's SS is unfortunately
>> > alive and sick, doing all it can to "bwahahahahaha" all that kept our
>> > innocent chilhoods earnest every morning, as we mouthed the words
>> > "One Nation Under God".
>> >
>> > Well, imo, unless wiser heads prevail and unify, redistribute and
>> > reunite, we'll temporarily remain one nation...but God will have left
>> > us for elsewhere and a darkness not seen since...
>> >
>> > "...The Dark Ages
>> >
>> > Early scholars gave the name "Dark Ages" to the period in Europe after
>> > the fall of the Roman Empire. During this period, barbarian Goths,
>> > Vandals, and Huns swept down on Europe from the north and east. They
>> > destroyed many fine buildings and works of art that had existed during
>> > Roman times. During the Dark Ages, knowledge survived only in
>> > monasteries, and there were very few schools. Many of the old arts and
>> > crafts were lost. This is why the time was called the "Dark Ages."
>> >
>> > The eastern Roman Empire was not conquered by the barbarians. There, the
>> > arts still flourished. People were still thinking and making fine works
>> > of art in other parts of the world. In China and India, great
>> > civilizations grew and spread. In the 1000s, Europe began to slowly
>> > recover from its artistic darkness. The lost knowledge of the ancient
>> > Greeks and Romans was found again. There was a new interest in learning,
>> > and the richer life of the Middle Ages began...."
>> >
>> > Athens--->Rome--->London---->Washington D.C.
>> >
>> > Next stop Beijing? New Delhi?
>> >
>> > "...In China and India, great civilizations grew and spread..."
>> >
>> > One gets the chilling sense that our Rome has finally begun to rot. With
>> > God's Grace enough of us will prevail. I was born in 1957 and find
>> > myself grateful that I won't be around to witness 2065 and beyond, as
>> > things have been heading...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> Interesting how not one hay8r / mudslinger has a thing to say in
>> response to this.
>>
>> It's similar to info. I wrote up about my under-the-fingers guitar
>> players approach to modes, both major and a few melodic minor for
>> jazz/rock/fusion apps.
>>
>> The ______ among us resort to false accusations of plagerism, rather
>> than acknowledge, engage or inquire. These are the same types apt to
>> screech about spelling or syntax errors, claim the other guy is "on
>> meds", or howl that he's got some sort of "medical or criminal" record
>> in a debased effort to discredit.
>>
>> One such low life is now under the scrutiny of the U.S. Secret Service.
>> If/and/or when he pops up again, I suspect that while he is personally
>> incapable of modifying his demented pathology, he'll assiduously avoid
>> any/all implied threat references to presidential candidates.
>>
>> + Regards and Peace to all the Good Guys here,
>>
>> mvm
>
>You're a fucking idiot.
>
>I'll make a threat right here, where everyone can see it:
>You'd better stop harrassing me on the telephone, or
>I double-damn guarantee you I will sue you for it. Be
>advised that your local switch records *everything*
>you dial, whether you hang up before the called
>party answers or not.
>
>BTW - how's life as a stableboy? One might speculate
>that your problem can be traced to horse-shit fumes.
>Jenkem, anyone?
>
>I haven't threatened any presidential candidates with
>anything beyond promising that I won't vote for them,
>and - in the unlikely event that the Secret Service
>or the FBI (or whoever) gives any credence at all
>to your little narkfest - anyone who takes a look at
>my posts will understand that immediately. You've
>placed yourself in the hilariously untenable position
>of having reported someone for cutting a virtual
>fart...and if anything untoward comes out of this,
>I'll sue you for that, too.
>
>Count on it, asshole.
>
>Lord Valve
>BaaaaarrrrAAAACCCKKKK! <Safety!>
>
This stupid psycho apparently will do anything required to keep his
top gay pedo profile on AGA..except make like a tree and leave...or
just killfile him and killfile all new socks for a few months to get
rid of him...no replys=mullet drys on the beach where he belongs
because no one loves him and his crass humor anymore...back to the
nuthouse or hiding in his doghouse behind the gay bar again...working
at night...for joints and quarters...

Re: OT: 1980 vs. 2008

J.P. wrote:
> On Fri, 02 May 2008 08:23:23 -0600, Lord Valve
> <detritus@ix,net com,com > wrote:
>
>> Truth~Seeker wrote:
>>
>>>> Truth~Seeker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dave Moore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Truth~Seeker" <"fixing-44182"@.REMOVAL~mypacks,net > wrote in message
>>>>> news:bsKdnbodfuXy9oTVnZ2dnUVZ tajnZ2d@giganews,com ...
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1980: CEO's earn 40 X Average Worker's Salary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2008: CEO's earn 433 X Average Worker's Salary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most Disgusting Awards
>>>>>> Company performance = failure, CEO Massive $$$$):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tobin Boston Scientific
>>>>>> Sharer Amgen
>>>>>> Mozilo Countrywide
>>>>>> Forsee Sprint (Now a filthy $$$ Univ. Pres.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Democracy is dead in McCorporate 'Murka. If you don't think we live in a
>>>>>> Corpocracy, tell me why...
>>>>>
>>>>> cause I'm too stupid to think, (period) ? DM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Facetious response to a non-rhetorical question noted Dave :-)! I just
>>>> wonder if any of these guys really have a grasp on the runaway market
>>>> fundamentalism which appears to have temporarily decimated the ideals of
>>>> Democracy in this nation. The extent to which avarice at the top of all
>>>> of societies mechanisms have not merely "been eating away at the
>>>> fabric", but have managed to consume it and deficate it back out as the
>>>> vulgar, disrespectful, intensely angry, divisive / split union now
>>>> passing for these "United" States. When Ike called the "military
>>>> industrial complex" for what it is, he clearly foresaw the potential for
>>>> American Fascism. When enough people's paychecks are hinged to the war
>>>> machine, Edmund Burke's sage observation: "Evil is what happens when
>>>> good people look the other way", becomes the nation's unspoken motto.
>>>>
>>>> The black heart and dead souls of the Nazi Germany's SS is unfortunately
>>>> alive and sick, doing all it can to "bwahahahahaha" all that kept our
>>>> innocent chilhoods earnest every morning, as we mouthed the words
>>>> "One Nation Under God".
>>>>
>>>> Well, imo, unless wiser heads prevail and unify, redistribute and
>>>> reunite, we'll temporarily remain one nation...but God will have left
>>>> us for elsewhere and a darkness not seen since...
>>>>
>>>> "...The Dark Ages
>>>>
>>>> Early scholars gave the name "Dark Ages" to the period in Europe after
>>>> the fall of the Roman Empire. During this period, barbarian Goths,
>>>> Vandals, and Huns swept down on Europe from the north and east. They
>>>> destroyed many fine buildings and works of art that had existed during
>>>> Roman times. During the Dark Ages, knowledge survived only in
>>>> monasteries, and there were very few schools. Many of the old arts and
>>>> crafts were lost. This is why the time was called the "Dark Ages."
>>>>
>>>> The eastern Roman Empire was not conquered by the barbarians. There, the
>>>> arts still flourished. People were still thinking and making fine works
>>>> of art in other parts of the world. In China and India, great
>>>> civilizations grew and spread. In the 1000s, Europe began to slowly
>>>> recover from its artistic darkness. The lost knowledge of the ancient
>>>> Greeks and Romans was found again. There was a new interest in learning,
>>>> and the richer life of the Middle Ages began...."
>>>>
>>>> Athens--->Rome--->London---->Washington D.C.
>>>>
>>>> Next stop Beijing? New Delhi?
>>>>
>>>> "...In China and India, great civilizations grew and spread..."
>>>>
>>>> One gets the chilling sense that our Rome has finally begun to rot. With
>>>> God's Grace enough of us will prevail. I was born in 1957 and find
>>>> myself grateful that I won't be around to witness 2065 and beyond, as
>>>> things have been heading...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Interesting how not one hay8r / mudslinger has a thing to say in
>>> response to this.
>>>
>>> It's similar to info. I wrote up about my under-the-fingers guitar
>>> players approach to modes, both major and a few melodic minor for
>>> jazz/rock/fusion apps.
>>>
>>> The among us resort to false accusations of plagerism, rather
>>> than acknowledge, engage or inquire. These are the same types apt to
>>> screech about spelling or syntax errors, claim the other guy is "on
>>> meds", or howl that he's got some sort of "medical or criminal" record
>>> in a debased effort to discredit.
>>>
>>> One such low life is now under the scrutiny of the U.S. Secret Service.
>>> If/and/or when he pops up again, I suspect that while he is personally
>>> incapable of modifying his demented pathology, he'll assiduously avoid
>>> any/all implied threat references to presidential candidates.
>>>
>>> + Regards and Peace to all the Good Guys here,
>>>
>>> mvm
>> You're a fucking idiot.
>>
>> I'll make a threat right here, where everyone can see it:
>> You'd better stop harrassing me on the telephone, or
>> I double-damn guarantee you I will sue you for it. Be
>> advised that your local switch records *everything*
>> you dial, whether you hang up before the called
>> party answers or not.
>>
>> BTW - how's life as a stableboy? One might speculate
>> that your problem can be traced to horse-shit fumes.
>> Jenkem, anyone?
>>
>> I haven't threatened any presidential candidates with
>> anything beyond promising that I won't vote for them,
>> and - in the unlikely event that the Secret Service
>> or the FBI (or whoever) gives any credence at all
>> to your little narkfest - anyone who takes a look at
>> my posts will understand that immediately. You've
>> placed yourself in the hilariously untenable position
>> of having reported someone for cutting a virtual
>> fart...and if anything untoward comes out of this,
>> I'll sue you for that, too.
>>
>> Count on it, asshole.
>>
>> Lord Valve
>> BaaaaarrrrAAAACCCKKKK! <Safety!>
>>
> This stupid psycho apparently will do anything required to keep his
> top gay pedo profile on AGA..except make like a tree and leave...or
> just killfile him and killfile all new socks for a few months to get
> rid of him...no replys=mullet drys on the beach where he belongs
> because no one loves him and his crass humor anymore...back to the
> nuthouse or hiding in his doghouse behind the gay bar again...working
> at night...for joints and quarters...

Well I don't think it takes too much in the synapse department to see
who "Bwahahaha / Lib! / LOL" has been all along. :-) mvm

Re: OT: 1980 vs. 2008

> I'll make a threat right here, where everyone can see it:
> You'd better stop harrassing me on the telephone, or
> I double-damn guarantee you I will sue you for it.  Be
> advised that your local switch records *everything*
> you dial, whether you hang up before the called
> party answers or not.
Doesn't sound like he harassed you very much to me? What were your
damages? You can't even prove that MVM made the first call.

That was funny though - ",,,Denver Secret Service office". I'm still
chuckling over it. Maybe LV does work for the SS and the whole LV
thing is a front?!?!

Mr Soul

Re: OT: 1980 vs. 2008

Mr Soul wrote:
>
>> I'll make a threat right here, where everyone can see it:
>> You'd better stop harrassing me on the telephone, or
>> I double-damn guarantee you I will sue you for it. Be
>> advised that your local switch records *everything*
>> you dial, whether you hang up before the called
>> party answers or not.
> Doesn't sound like he harassed you very much to me? What were your
> damages? You can't even prove that MVM made the first call.
>
> That was funny though - ",,,Denver Secret Service office". I'm still
> chuckling over it. Maybe LV does work for the SS and the whole LV
> thing is a front?!?!
>
> Mr Soul

U.S. Secret Service:
DENVER, COLORADO 303-850-2700

http :// www .secretservice.gov/field offices.shtml

Re: OT: 1980 vs. 2008

On Fri, 2 May 2008 11:08:49 -0700 (PDT), Mr Soul <pcDAW@comcast,net >
wrote:

>> I'll make a threat right here, where everyone can see it:
>> You'd better stop harrassing me on the telephone, or
>> I double-damn guarantee you I will sue you for it.  Be
>> advised that your local switch records *everything*
>> you dial, whether you hang up before the called
>> party answers or not.
>Doesn't sound like he harassed you very much to me? What were your
>damages? You can't even prove that MVM made the first call.
>
>That was funny though - ",,,Denver Secret Service office". I'm still
>chuckling over it. Maybe LV does work for the SS and the whole LV
>thing is a front?!?!
>
>Mr Soul
If he does there's a few sock puppets likely made the kook files in
their office...

Re: OT: 1980 vs. 2008

Mr Soul wrote:
>> I'll make a threat right here, where everyone can see it:
>> You'd better stop harrassing me on the telephone, or
>> I double-damn guarantee you I will sue you for it. Be
>> advised that your local switch records *everything*
>> you dial, whether you hang up before the called
>> party answers or not.
> Doesn't sound like he harassed you very much to me? What were your
> damages? You can't even prove that MVM made the first call.
>
> That was funny though - ",,,Denver Secret Service office". I'm still
> chuckling over it. Maybe LV does work for the SS and the whole LV
> thing is a front?!?!
>
> Mr Soul

I just saw this Mike. That poor guy is flat out full on, insane .

It's almost a certainty that if he were ever physically confronted,
-now, 10 years ago, 35 years ago- if he wasn't able to pull out a hand
gun on the assailant, he'd take a punch in the face with a shreik*. The
guy would sound like a little girl on a play ground. His voice would
break glass.*

He's the sort who types his version of "nah, nah, you can't get me",
with this and that about dogs, video cams, guns...he's a full on, born
cunt and he clearly despises himself for it. The "sue" bit the poor
bastard leaps to any/every chance he can, along with the lies,
accusations, paranoia, bigotry, etc. are pure entertainment of the
lowest order-- the most snot-hanging funny thing about him is that
not only is he what we see, he found a handful of guys who appear to
think he's some sort of happening cat!

That's how/why William Hung imagined himself as the second coming of
Jim Morrison and why I named this ABusenet. :-) mvm

* No shit man-

Sample a couple here and imagine william or roccaforte - *try* not to
"LOL" ;-) mvm

http :// tinyurl,com /3nw9z3

Re: OT: 1980 vs. 2008

On Fri, 02 May 2008 03:36:07 -0500, Truth~Seeker
<"fixing-44182"@.REMOVAL~mypacks,net > wrote:


>>
>>
>Interesting how not one hay8r /


Your spelling of "hay8r" would render the pronunciation, "hay-ATE-er". Now is
that what you mean to say? Or are you just an idiot??

I can tell you which way MY vote goes....