Tuning Amps

Tuning Amps

Is there an on line site to aid in tuning amps. I need to know what
all the dials do. I want that distorted rock sound.

Re: Tuning Amps


<bluedevil_1950@yahoo . com > wrote in message
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> Is there an on line site to aid in tuning amps. I need to know what
> all the dials do. I want that distorted rock sound.

You must read the front panel. Do you have an amp?
If not, get one... and a guitar too. This will help.

Get a connecting wire, too. It's called a 'chord'...
ask the salesman for an 'E' chord.
__
Steve
.

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"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal . net > wrote in message
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>
> <bluedevil_1950@yahoo . com > wrote in message
> news:b3da7091-674e-44cc-a933-917904237add@25g2000hsx.googlegroups . com ...
>> Is there an on line site to aid in tuning amps. I need to know what
>> all the dials do. I want that distorted rock sound.
>
> You must read the front panel. Do you have an amp?
> If not, get one... and a guitar too. This will help.
>
> Get a connecting wire, too. It's called a 'chord'...
> ask the salesman for an 'E' chord.
> __
> Steve
> .
>
>
>
>

Also don't forget to ask for distortion strings when it's time to
re-string..and just for safe measure make sure you don't buy left handed
strings if you are a righty and vice versa... ;-)

Re: Tuning Amps

Stephen Cowell wrote:

>> all the dials do. I want that distorted rock sound.
>
> You must read the front panel.
>
Your assuming he knows how to read ...

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Stephen Cowell wrote:

> <bluedevil_1950@yahoo . com > wrote in message
> news:b3da7091-674e-44cc-a933-917904237add@25g2000hsx.googlegroups . com ...
> > Is there an on line site to aid in tuning amps. I need to know what
> > all the dials do. I want that distorted rock sound.
>
> You must read the front panel. Do you have an amp?
> If not, get one... and a guitar too. This will help.
>
> Get a connecting wire, too. It's called a 'chord'...
> ask the salesman for an 'E' chord.
> __
> Steve
> .

Hey - maybe he's a keyboard player.

He'll need a "harpsi" chord, in that case.

Lord Valve
Founder, HARM (Heavily Armed Rightwing Maniacs)

Re: Tuning Amps

Lord Valve wrote:
> Hey - maybe he's a keyboard player.
>
>
>
You ever play that Hammond through a Marshall ? aka: Deep Purple ?

Re: Tuning Amps

WB wrote:

> Lord Valve wrote:
> > Hey - maybe he's a keyboard player.
> >
> >
> >
> You ever play that Hammond through a Marshall ? aka: Deep Purple ?

I experimented with using a couple of Super Reverbs in the early 70s.

I didn't care for it - they distorted far too easily. No disrespect to
Lord's chops - he has some - but I never could stomach all
that distortion. As I remarked on another thread, I'm using
nearly 2,000 watts with my digital Hammond XK3/XK3-c
setup; not for volume, but for solid clean tone. I'd rather
switch distortion on when required (not often, for my style)
than have it as a built-in factor which never goes away.

I have a feeling that a lot of Jon Lord's distortion was related
to input overload rather than output stage clipping; an old
Hammond (we call 'em "oilers" now) operates at something
called "broadcast level," which is a *hellaceously* hot signal -
with all drawbars pulled (fairly common for rock players) you
could see 20 VRMS or more at the organ's output, which
was via a 600-ohm transformer-balanced line. Plenty of
current available, too. When (essentially) unloaded and
operated with a connection to one side of the output tranny
driving a 50K pot with one end grounded and the output
taken from the wiper (a typical setup), it was fairly difficult
to come up with a level that was useful over the full range
of the organ's swell pedal and still low enough to avoid
overloading the first stage in the guitar amp. The problem
was aggravated considerably by the fact that the organist
was in direct realtime control of the harmonic structure of
the signal; radical changes in overall timbre (as well as
level) were possible, and rapidly accomplished. That's
why soundpukes *hate* the Hammond; a vanishingly small
group of them knows how to put a Hammond into a live
mix, and that's why it's so difficult to hear organ in rock
music - most fader jocks run the organ at a very low level
once they find out that it's possible for the organist to
pull stops which will distort with the control settings
done during soundcheck. This causes the organist to
play with the swell pedal fully (or nearly fully) depressed,
thus completely wiping out the strongest weapon in
the organist's arsenal - the organ's huge dynamic
range. (Of course, many rock organists play<ed>
STANDING UP, which meant for the most part that
they had *no* dynmanic range at all, other than by pulling
louder or softer stops - a poor substitute for using an
expression pedal.) This is further complicated by the
fact that most of the popular Leslies (122, 147, etc.) are
only 40 watts; even stage level (for hearing yourself) is
problematic for organists. Lord's use of Marshall
stacks may have been an attempt to get around
this; it's nearly impossible to explain to a fader jerk
that when the organist solos, HE'S SUPPOSED TO
BE EVERY BIT AS LOUD AND OUT FRONT AS
THE FUCKING GUITAR SOLO IS.

Hence, 2,000 watts. ;-)

Lord Valve
BaaaaaarrrrrAAAAACCCCCKKKK!! <Safety!> <LOUD!>

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Maybe the group name should be Alt. Guitar.Amp.Sarcasim
Thanks for the advice.

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bluedevil 1950@yahoo . com wrote:
> Maybe the group name should be Alt. Guitar.Amp.Sarcasim
> Thanks for the advice.

It's not really a group bluedevil. It's more a collection of anonymous
pussies who've never had someone put a fist through their faces and
secretly crave it.

The only thing I've seen that sounds similar to what you're looking for
are dial settings on Marshall Amps to approximate the tone you're
attempting to get. UK Magazines to be found in any bookstore chain like
Total Gutitar or Guitarist have these. Good luck!

mvm
>
* tinyurl . com /32j32m

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In article <yeqdnWG-ju21hIPVnZ2dnUVZ_sOrnZ2d@giganews . com >,
The Lord's Sock Puppet, Marc Mulay, phony veteran, and sad pathetic asshole
posing as Truth~Seeker <fixing-44182@.REMOVE~mypacks . net > mumbled:

>bluedevil_1950@yahoo . com wrote:
>> Maybe the group name should be Alt. Guitar.Amp.Sarcasim
>> Thanks for the advice.
>
>It's not really a group bluedevil. It's more a collection of anonymous
>pussies like myself who've never had someone put a fist through their faces and
>secretly crave it.
>

FYP

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Claude V. Lucas wrote:
>
> In article <yeqdnWG-ju21hIPVnZ2dnUVZ_sOrnZ2d@giganews . com >,
> The Lord's Sock Puppet, Marc Mulay, phony veteran, and sad pathetic asshole
> posing as Truth~Seeker <fixing-44182@.REMOVE~mypacks . net > mumbled:
>
>> bluedevil_1950@yahoo . com wrote:
>
>>> Maybe the group name should be Alt. Guitar.Amp.Sarcasim
>>> Thanks for the advice.
>
>
>> It's not really a group bluedevil. It's more a collection of anonymous
>> pussies like myself who've never had someone put a fist through their faces and
>> secretly crave it. -Claude V. Lucas
>>
>
> FYP

Bluedevil! Meet Claude V. Lucas. Lucas, as in Henry Lee Lucas. Not much
more to add there...except that you'll find him to be a toadie to
"Lord Valve", aka william whittakre.
>
Henry Lee Lucas (August 23, 1936 – March 13, 2001) was an American
criminal, convicted of murder and once listed as America's most prolific
serial killer. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Lee_Lucas - 57k - Cached - Similar pages -
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Re: Tuning Amps


<bluedevil_1950@yahoo . com > wrote in message
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> Maybe the group name should be Alt. Guitar.Amp.Sarcasim
> Thanks for the advice.

On one hand, folks were rather hard on you, on the other hand, consider the
phrasing of your question. Dials are labeled and the effect is
self-evident. Do you really need us to explain the turning the Bass knob up
to 10 increases bass output? Add to that the fact that each amp is voiced
differently, and you did not specify an amp.

The distortion is, generally speaking, a function of the amplifier circuit
and the knobs modify it somewhat. Twiddling the knobs on a clean amp won't
make it distort.

In case you didn't get it, that's why you were met with sarcasm.

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bluedevil_1950@yahoo . com wrote:

> Maybe the group name should be Alt. Guitar.Amp.Sarcasim
> Thanks for the advice.

Sarcasm? Who, me?

Dude - your amp has knobs on it. You turn them until
it sounds the way you want it to. There are no rules
about where to put them - your ear will supply the
answer. If you spend a couple of months turning them
and you don't hear what you're looking for, then it's
time to try a different amp

It really is that simple.

Lord Valve
Founder, HARM (Heavily Armed Rightwing Maniacs)

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On May 4, 2:49 pm, Lord Valve <detri...@ix . net com . com > wrote:
> bluedevil 1...@yahoo . com wrote:
> > Maybe the group name should be Alt. Guitar.Amp.Sarcasim
> > Thanks for the advice.
>
> Sarcasm?  Who, me?
>
> Dude - your amp has knobs on it.  You turn them until
> it sounds the way you want it to.  There are no rules
> about where to put them - your ear will supply the
> answer.  If you spend a couple of months turning them
> and you don't hear what you're looking for, then it's
> time to try a different amp
>
> It really is that simple.
>
> Lord Valve
> Founder, HARM (Heavily Armed Rightwing Maniacs)

So it's a trial and error thing?
I can do that. I'd just like to read the function of each dial.
Sometimes a manual makes understanding easier.
Like I said, I'm new. Really fuggin' new. One week ago I walked into
a music shop and bought the guitar, tuner and amp.

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bluedevil_1950@yahoo . com wrote:

> On May 4, 2:49 pm, Lord Valve <detri...@ix . net com . com > wrote:
> > bluedevil_1...@yahoo . com wrote:
> > > Maybe the group name should be Alt. Guitar.Amp.Sarcasim
> > > Thanks for the advice.
> >
> > Sarcasm? Who, me?
> >
> > Dude - your amp has knobs on it. You turn them until
> > it sounds the way you want it to. There are no rules
> > about where to put them - your ear will supply the
> > answer. If you spend a couple of months turning them
> > and you don't hear what you're looking for, then it's
> > time to try a different amp
> >
> > It really is that simple.
> >
> > Lord Valve
> > Founder, HARM (Heavily Armed Rightwing Maniacs)
>
> So it's a trial and error thing?
> I can do that. I'd just like to read the function of each dial.
> Sometimes a manual makes understanding easier.
> Like I said, I'm new. Really fuggin' new. One week ago I walked into
> a music shop and bought the guitar, tuner and amp.

Ow. SUPER noob! I see. ;-)

Well, I'd suggest that you spend nearly all of
your time working on learning to *play* at this
point; worry about copping tone later. In fact,
you might want to invest in an acoustic guitar,
so your quest for chops (technique) is not
hindered by the distractions of amplification
and effects. I've been playing the organ since
1962 (probably considerably longer than you've
been breathing) and I was fortunate enough to
start out on a fairly bare-bones instrument;
because of this, technique was far more important
to me than spinning the Leslie up and down - and
it still is. Best advice I can give you.

Lord Valve
Hammond Organist