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From Carter's 7/15/79 "Crisis of Confidence" speech:
"... We know the strength of America. We are strong. We can regain our
unity. We can regain our confidence. We are the heirs of generations
who survived threats much more powerful and awesome than those that
challenge us now. Our fathers and mothers were strong men and women
who shaped a new society during the Great Depression, who fought world
wars, and who carved out a new charter of peace for the world.
...
All the traditions of our past, all the lessons of our heritage, all
the promises of our future point to another path, the path of common
purpose and the restoration of American values. That path leads to
true freedom for our nation and ourselves. We can take the first steps
down that path as we begin to solve our energy problem.
Energy will be the immediate test of our ability to unite this nation,
and it can also be the standard around which we rally. On the
battlefield of energy we can win for our nation a new confidence, and
we can seize control again of our common destiny.
In little more than two decades we've gone from a position of energy
independence to one in which almost half the oil we use comes from
foreign countries, at prices that are going through the roof. Our
excessive dependence on OPEC has already taken a tremendous toll on
our economy and our people...
What I have to say to you now about energy is simple and vitally
important.
Point one: I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of
the United States. Beginning this moment, this nation will never use
more foreign oil than we did in 1977 -- never...I am tonight setting
the further goal of cutting our dependence on foreign oil by one-half
by the end of the next decade -- a saving of over 4-1/2 million
barrels of imported oil per day.
Point two: To ensure that we meet these targets, I will use my
presidential authority to set import quotas. I'm announcing tonight
that for 1979 and 1980, I will forbid the entry into this country of
one drop of foreign oil more than these goals allow...
Point three: To give us energy security, I am asking for the most
massive peacetime commitment of funds and resources in our nation's
history to develop America's own alternative sources of fuel -- from
coal, from oil shale, from plant products for gasohol, from
unconventional gas, from the sun.
I propose the creation of an energy security corporation to lead this
effort to replace 2-1/2 million barrels of imported oil per day by
1990. The corporation I will issue up to $5 billion in energy bonds,
and I especially want them to be in small denominations so that
average Americans can invest directly in America's energy security.
Just as a similar synthetic rubber corporation helped us win World War
II, so will we mobilize American determination and ability to win the
energy war. Moreover, I will soon submit legislation to Congress
calling for the creation of this nation's first solar bank, which will
help us achieve the crucial goal of 20 percent of our energy coming
from solar power by the year 2000.
These efforts will cost money, a lot of money, and that is why
Congress must enact the windfall profits tax without delay. It will be
money well spent. Unlike the billions of dollars that we ship to
foreign countries to pay for foreign oil, these funds will be paid by
Americans to Americans. These funds will go to fight, not to increase,
inflation and unemployment.
Point four: I'm asking Congress to mandate, to require as a matter of
law, that our nation's utility companies cut their massive use of oil
by 50 percent within the next decade and switch to other fuels,
especially coal, our most abundant energy source.
Point six: I'm proposing a bold conservation program to involve every
state, county, and city and every average American in our energy
battle. This effort will permit you to build conservation into your
homes and your lives at a cost you can afford.
You know we can do it. We have the natural resources. We have more oil
in our shale alone than several Saudi Arabias. We have more coal than
any nation on Earth. We have the world's highest level of technology.
We have the most skilled work force, with innovative genius, and I
firmly believe that we have the national will to win this war.
I do not promise you that this struggle for freedom will be easy. I do
not promise a quick way out of our nation's problems, when the truth
is that the only way out is an all-out effort. What I do promise you
is that I will lead our fight, and I will enforce fairness in our
struggle, and I will ensure honesty. And above all, I will act. We can
manage the short-term shortages more effectively and we will, but
there are no short-term solutions to our long-range problems. There is
simply no way to avoid sacrifice. .."
Too bad we hadn't listened to Jimmy Carter.
Mr Soul
"... We know the strength of America. We are strong. We can regain our
unity. We can regain our confidence. We are the heirs of generations
who survived threats much more powerful and awesome than those that
challenge us now. Our fathers and mothers were strong men and women
who shaped a new society during the Great Depression, who fought world
wars, and who carved out a new charter of peace for the world.
...
All the traditions of our past, all the lessons of our heritage, all
the promises of our future point to another path, the path of common
purpose and the restoration of American values. That path leads to
true freedom for our nation and ourselves. We can take the first steps
down that path as we begin to solve our energy problem.
Energy will be the immediate test of our ability to unite this nation,
and it can also be the standard around which we rally. On the
battlefield of energy we can win for our nation a new confidence, and
we can seize control again of our common destiny.
In little more than two decades we've gone from a position of energy
independence to one in which almost half the oil we use comes from
foreign countries, at prices that are going through the roof. Our
excessive dependence on OPEC has already taken a tremendous toll on
our economy and our people...
What I have to say to you now about energy is simple and vitally
important.
Point one: I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of
the United States. Beginning this moment, this nation will never use
more foreign oil than we did in 1977 -- never...I am tonight setting
the further goal of cutting our dependence on foreign oil by one-half
by the end of the next decade -- a saving of over 4-1/2 million
barrels of imported oil per day.
Point two: To ensure that we meet these targets, I will use my
presidential authority to set import quotas. I'm announcing tonight
that for 1979 and 1980, I will forbid the entry into this country of
one drop of foreign oil more than these goals allow...
Point three: To give us energy security, I am asking for the most
massive peacetime commitment of funds and resources in our nation's
history to develop America's own alternative sources of fuel -- from
coal, from oil shale, from plant products for gasohol, from
unconventional gas, from the sun.
I propose the creation of an energy security corporation to lead this
effort to replace 2-1/2 million barrels of imported oil per day by
1990. The corporation I will issue up to $5 billion in energy bonds,
and I especially want them to be in small denominations so that
average Americans can invest directly in America's energy security.
Just as a similar synthetic rubber corporation helped us win World War
II, so will we mobilize American determination and ability to win the
energy war. Moreover, I will soon submit legislation to Congress
calling for the creation of this nation's first solar bank, which will
help us achieve the crucial goal of 20 percent of our energy coming
from solar power by the year 2000.
These efforts will cost money, a lot of money, and that is why
Congress must enact the windfall profits tax without delay. It will be
money well spent. Unlike the billions of dollars that we ship to
foreign countries to pay for foreign oil, these funds will be paid by
Americans to Americans. These funds will go to fight, not to increase,
inflation and unemployment.
Point four: I'm asking Congress to mandate, to require as a matter of
law, that our nation's utility companies cut their massive use of oil
by 50 percent within the next decade and switch to other fuels,
especially coal, our most abundant energy source.
Point six: I'm proposing a bold conservation program to involve every
state, county, and city and every average American in our energy
battle. This effort will permit you to build conservation into your
homes and your lives at a cost you can afford.
You know we can do it. We have the natural resources. We have more oil
in our shale alone than several Saudi Arabias. We have more coal than
any nation on Earth. We have the world's highest level of technology.
We have the most skilled work force, with innovative genius, and I
firmly believe that we have the national will to win this war.
I do not promise you that this struggle for freedom will be easy. I do
not promise a quick way out of our nation's problems, when the truth
is that the only way out is an all-out effort. What I do promise you
is that I will lead our fight, and I will enforce fairness in our
struggle, and I will ensure honesty. And above all, I will act. We can
manage the short-term shortages more effectively and we will, but
there are no short-term solutions to our long-range problems. There is
simply no way to avoid sacrifice. .."
Too bad we hadn't listened to Jimmy Carter.
Mr Soul
"Mr Soul" <pcDAW@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:3884e677-7511-4bd3-91e1-1c1db9e923f1@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> From Carter's 7/15/79 "Crisis of Confidence" speech:
>
> "... We know the strength of America. We are strong. We can regain our
> unity. We can regain our confidence. We are the heirs of generations
> who survived threats much more powerful and awesome than those that
> challenge us now. Our fathers and mothers were strong men and women
> who shaped a new society during the Great Depression, who fought world
> wars, and who carved out a new charter of peace for the world..."
Great author... terrible orator. I voted for Ford... wasn't in the
mood for religious peanut farmers, and Y,D,FOC too. I'd
vote for Carter in a heartbeat now, of course... he's proven
his worth to the world many times over since then.
__
Steve
.
> Great author... terrible orator. I voted for Ford... wasn't in the
> mood for religious peanut farmers, and Y,D,FOC too. I'd
> vote for Carter in a heartbeat now, of course... he's proven
> his worth to the world many times over since then.
Yes - I agree about Carter in this respect, but he was a good man (who
only sinned in his heart :-)
Mr Soul
> mood for religious peanut farmers, and Y,D,FOC too. I'd
> vote for Carter in a heartbeat now, of course... he's proven
> his worth to the world many times over since then.
Yes - I agree about Carter in this respect, but he was a good man (who
only sinned in his heart :-)
Mr Soul
Mr Soul wrote:
> From Carter's 7/15/79 "Crisis of Confidence" speech:
>
> "... We know the strength of America. We are strong. We can regain our
> unity. We can regain our confidence. We are the heirs of generations
> who survived threats much more powerful and awesome than those that
> challenge us now. Our fathers and mothers were strong men and women
> who shaped a new society during the Great Depression, who fought world
> wars, and who carved out a new charter of peace for the world.
>
> ....
>
> All the traditions of our past, all the lessons of our heritage, all
> the promises of our future point to another path, the path of common
> purpose and the restoration of American values. That path leads to
> true freedom for our nation and ourselves. We can take the first steps
> down that path as we begin to solve our energy problem.
>
> Energy will be the immediate test of our ability to unite this nation,
> and it can also be the standard around which we rally. On the
> battlefield of energy we can win for our nation a new confidence, and
> we can seize control again of our common destiny.
>
> In little more than two decades we've gone from a position of energy
> independence to one in which almost half the oil we use comes from
> foreign countries, at prices that are going through the roof. Our
> excessive dependence on OPEC has already taken a tremendous toll on
> our economy and our people...
>
> What I have to say to you now about energy is simple and vitally
> important.
>
> Point one: I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of
> the United States. Beginning this moment, this nation will never use
> more foreign oil than we did in 1977 -- never...I am tonight setting
> the further goal of cutting our dependence on foreign oil by one-half
> by the end of the next decade -- a saving of over 4-1/2 million
> barrels of imported oil per day.
>
> Point two: To ensure that we meet these targets, I will use my
> presidential authority to set import quotas. I'm announcing tonight
> that for 1979 and 1980, I will forbid the entry into this country of
> one drop of foreign oil more than these goals allow...
>
> Point three: To give us energy security, I am asking for the most
> massive peacetime commitment of funds and resources in our nation's
> history to develop America's own alternative sources of fuel -- from
> coal, from oil shale, from plant products for gasohol, from
> unconventional gas, from the sun.
>
> I propose the creation of an energy security corporation to lead this
> effort to replace 2-1/2 million barrels of imported oil per day by
> 1990. The corporation I will issue up to $5 billion in energy bonds,
> and I especially want them to be in small denominations so that
> average Americans can invest directly in America's energy security.
>
> Just as a similar synthetic rubber corporation helped us win World War
> II, so will we mobilize American determination and ability to win the
> energy war. Moreover, I will soon submit legislation to Congress
> calling for the creation of this nation's first solar bank, which will
> help us achieve the crucial goal of 20 percent of our energy coming
> from solar power by the year 2000.
>
> These efforts will cost money, a lot of money, and that is why
> Congress must enact the windfall profits tax without delay. It will be
> money well spent. Unlike the billions of dollars that we ship to
> foreign countries to pay for foreign oil, these funds will be paid by
> Americans to Americans. These funds will go to fight, not to increase,
> inflation and unemployment.
>
> Point four: I'm asking Congress to mandate, to require as a matter of
> law, that our nation's utility companies cut their massive use of oil
> by 50 percent within the next decade and switch to other fuels,
> especially coal, our most abundant energy source.
>
> Point six: I'm proposing a bold conservation program to involve every
> state, county, and city and every average American in our energy
> battle. This effort will permit you to build conservation into your
> homes and your lives at a cost you can afford.
>
> You know we can do it. We have the natural resources. We have more oil
> in our shale alone than several Saudi Arabias. We have more coal than
> any nation on Earth. We have the world's highest level of technology.
> We have the most skilled work force, with innovative genius, and I
> firmly believe that we have the national will to win this war.
>
> I do not promise you that this struggle for freedom will be easy. I do
> not promise a quick way out of our nation's problems, when the truth
> is that the only way out is an all-out effort. What I do promise you
> is that I will lead our fight, and I will enforce fairness in our
> struggle, and I will ensure honesty. And above all, I will act. We can
> manage the short-term shortages more effectively and we will, but
> there are no short-term solutions to our long-range problems. There is
> simply no way to avoid sacrifice. .."
>
> Too bad we hadn't listened to Jimmy Carter.
>
> Mr Soul
>
"A prophet is not without honor, save in his own country" (Matthew 13:57)
People of substance will genuinely mourn J.C.'s passing. The Iranian
revolution was his undoing.
I was 22, finishing college the night he gave that speech. I distinctly
remember watching it. mvm
> From Carter's 7/15/79 "Crisis of Confidence" speech:
>
> "... We know the strength of America. We are strong. We can regain our
> unity. We can regain our confidence. We are the heirs of generations
> who survived threats much more powerful and awesome than those that
> challenge us now. Our fathers and mothers were strong men and women
> who shaped a new society during the Great Depression, who fought world
> wars, and who carved out a new charter of peace for the world.
>
> ....
>
> All the traditions of our past, all the lessons of our heritage, all
> the promises of our future point to another path, the path of common
> purpose and the restoration of American values. That path leads to
> true freedom for our nation and ourselves. We can take the first steps
> down that path as we begin to solve our energy problem.
>
> Energy will be the immediate test of our ability to unite this nation,
> and it can also be the standard around which we rally. On the
> battlefield of energy we can win for our nation a new confidence, and
> we can seize control again of our common destiny.
>
> In little more than two decades we've gone from a position of energy
> independence to one in which almost half the oil we use comes from
> foreign countries, at prices that are going through the roof. Our
> excessive dependence on OPEC has already taken a tremendous toll on
> our economy and our people...
>
> What I have to say to you now about energy is simple and vitally
> important.
>
> Point one: I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of
> the United States. Beginning this moment, this nation will never use
> more foreign oil than we did in 1977 -- never...I am tonight setting
> the further goal of cutting our dependence on foreign oil by one-half
> by the end of the next decade -- a saving of over 4-1/2 million
> barrels of imported oil per day.
>
> Point two: To ensure that we meet these targets, I will use my
> presidential authority to set import quotas. I'm announcing tonight
> that for 1979 and 1980, I will forbid the entry into this country of
> one drop of foreign oil more than these goals allow...
>
> Point three: To give us energy security, I am asking for the most
> massive peacetime commitment of funds and resources in our nation's
> history to develop America's own alternative sources of fuel -- from
> coal, from oil shale, from plant products for gasohol, from
> unconventional gas, from the sun.
>
> I propose the creation of an energy security corporation to lead this
> effort to replace 2-1/2 million barrels of imported oil per day by
> 1990. The corporation I will issue up to $5 billion in energy bonds,
> and I especially want them to be in small denominations so that
> average Americans can invest directly in America's energy security.
>
> Just as a similar synthetic rubber corporation helped us win World War
> II, so will we mobilize American determination and ability to win the
> energy war. Moreover, I will soon submit legislation to Congress
> calling for the creation of this nation's first solar bank, which will
> help us achieve the crucial goal of 20 percent of our energy coming
> from solar power by the year 2000.
>
> These efforts will cost money, a lot of money, and that is why
> Congress must enact the windfall profits tax without delay. It will be
> money well spent. Unlike the billions of dollars that we ship to
> foreign countries to pay for foreign oil, these funds will be paid by
> Americans to Americans. These funds will go to fight, not to increase,
> inflation and unemployment.
>
> Point four: I'm asking Congress to mandate, to require as a matter of
> law, that our nation's utility companies cut their massive use of oil
> by 50 percent within the next decade and switch to other fuels,
> especially coal, our most abundant energy source.
>
> Point six: I'm proposing a bold conservation program to involve every
> state, county, and city and every average American in our energy
> battle. This effort will permit you to build conservation into your
> homes and your lives at a cost you can afford.
>
> You know we can do it. We have the natural resources. We have more oil
> in our shale alone than several Saudi Arabias. We have more coal than
> any nation on Earth. We have the world's highest level of technology.
> We have the most skilled work force, with innovative genius, and I
> firmly believe that we have the national will to win this war.
>
> I do not promise you that this struggle for freedom will be easy. I do
> not promise a quick way out of our nation's problems, when the truth
> is that the only way out is an all-out effort. What I do promise you
> is that I will lead our fight, and I will enforce fairness in our
> struggle, and I will ensure honesty. And above all, I will act. We can
> manage the short-term shortages more effectively and we will, but
> there are no short-term solutions to our long-range problems. There is
> simply no way to avoid sacrifice. .."
>
> Too bad we hadn't listened to Jimmy Carter.
>
> Mr Soul
>
"A prophet is not without honor, save in his own country" (Matthew 13:57)
People of substance will genuinely mourn J.C.'s passing. The Iranian
revolution was his undoing.
I was 22, finishing college the night he gave that speech. I distinctly
remember watching it. mvm
> People of substance will genuinely mourn J.C.'s passing. The Iranian
> revolution was his undoing.
You bet! But if the hostage plan worked, he would have been a hero.
> I was 22, finishing college the night he gave that speech. I distinctly
> remember watching it. mvm- Hide quoted text -
I remember it too. Great speech.
Mr Soul
> revolution was his undoing.
You bet! But if the hostage plan worked, he would have been a hero.
> I was 22, finishing college the night he gave that speech. I distinctly
> remember watching it. mvm- Hide quoted text -
I remember it too. Great speech.
Mr Soul
On Tue, 13 May 2008 12:11:56 -0700 (PDT), Mr Soul <pcDAW@comcast.net>
wrote:
>> People of substance will genuinely mourn J.C.'s passing. The Iranian
>> revolution was his undoing.
>You bet! But if the hostage plan worked, he would have been a hero.
>
...but it didn't. It was a complete failure and so was Jimmy.
Move on.
wrote:
>> People of substance will genuinely mourn J.C.'s passing. The Iranian
>> revolution was his undoing.
>You bet! But if the hostage plan worked, he would have been a hero.
>
...but it didn't. It was a complete failure and so was Jimmy.
Move on.
> ...but it didn't. It was a complete failure and so was Jimmy.
Yes - the mission was a failure but that wasn't Carter's fault. At
least he tried to do something.
Mr Soul
Yes - the mission was a failure but that wasn't Carter's fault. At
least he tried to do something.
Mr Soul
On Fri, 16 May 2008 05:03:35 -0700 (PDT), Mr Soul <pcDAW@comcast.net>
wrote:
>> ...but it didn't. It was a complete failure and so was Jimmy.
>Yes - the mission was a failure but that wasn't Carter's fault. At
>least he tried to do something.
>
>Mr Soul
Just like Clinton "tried" to get Osama.
Two utter failures.
wrote:
>> ...but it didn't. It was a complete failure and so was Jimmy.
>Yes - the mission was a failure but that wasn't Carter's fault. At
>least he tried to do something.
>
>Mr Soul
Just like Clinton "tried" to get Osama.
Two utter failures.
"Mr Soul" <pcDAW@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:3884e677-7511-4bd3-91e1-1c1db9e923f1@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> From Carter's 7/15/79 "Crisis of Confidence" speech:
>
> "... We know the strength of America. We are strong. We can regain our
> unity. We can regain our confidence. We are the heirs of generations
> who survived threats much more powerful and awesome than those that
> challenge us now. Our fathers and mothers were strong men and women
> who shaped a new society during the Great Depression, who fought world
> wars, and who carved out a new charter of peace for the world.
>
> ...
>
> All the traditions of our past, all the lessons of our heritage, all
> the promises of our future point to another path, the path of common
> purpose and the restoration of American values. That path leads to
> true freedom for our nation and ourselves. We can take the first steps
> down that path as we begin to solve our energy problem.
>
> Energy will be the immediate test of our ability to unite this nation,
> and it can also be the standard around which we rally. On the
> battlefield of energy we can win for our nation a new confidence, and
> we can seize control again of our common destiny.
>
> In little more than two decades we've gone from a position of energy
> independence to one in which almost half the oil we use comes from
> foreign countries, at prices that are going through the roof. Our
> excessive dependence on OPEC has already taken a tremendous toll on
> our economy and our people...
>
> What I have to say to you now about energy is simple and vitally
> important.
>
> Point one: I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of
> the United States. Beginning this moment, this nation will never use
> more foreign oil than we did in 1977 -- never...I am tonight setting
> the further goal of cutting our dependence on foreign oil by one-half
> by the end of the next decade -- a saving of over 4-1/2 million
> barrels of imported oil per day.
>
> Point two: To ensure that we meet these targets, I will use my
> presidential authority to set import quotas. I'm announcing tonight
> that for 1979 and 1980, I will forbid the entry into this country of
> one drop of foreign oil more than these goals allow...
>
> Point three: To give us energy security, I am asking for the most
> massive peacetime commitment of funds and resources in our nation's
> history to develop America's own alternative sources of fuel -- from
> coal, from oil shale, from plant products for gasohol, from
> unconventional gas, from the sun.
>
> I propose the creation of an energy security corporation to lead this
> effort to replace 2-1/2 million barrels of imported oil per day by
> 1990. The corporation I will issue up to $5 billion in energy bonds,
> and I especially want them to be in small denominations so that
> average Americans can invest directly in America's energy security.
>
> Just as a similar synthetic rubber corporation helped us win World War
> II, so will we mobilize American determination and ability to win the
> energy war. Moreover, I will soon submit legislation to Congress
> calling for the creation of this nation's first solar bank, which will
> help us achieve the crucial goal of 20 percent of our energy coming
> from solar power by the year 2000.
>
> These efforts will cost money, a lot of money, and that is why
> Congress must enact the windfall profits tax without delay. It will be
> money well spent. Unlike the billions of dollars that we ship to
> foreign countries to pay for foreign oil, these funds will be paid by
> Americans to Americans. These funds will go to fight, not to increase,
> inflation and unemployment.
>
> Point four: I'm asking Congress to mandate, to require as a matter of
> law, that our nation's utility companies cut their massive use of oil
> by 50 percent within the next decade and switch to other fuels,
> especially coal, our most abundant energy source.
>
> Point six: I'm proposing a bold conservation program to involve every
> state, county, and city and every average American in our energy
> battle. This effort will permit you to build conservation into your
> homes and your lives at a cost you can afford.
>
> You know we can do it. We have the natural resources. We have more oil
> in our shale alone than several Saudi Arabias. We have more coal than
> any nation on Earth. We have the world's highest level of technology.
> We have the most skilled work force, with innovative genius, and I
> firmly believe that we have the national will to win this war.
>
> I do not promise you that this struggle for freedom will be easy. I do
> not promise a quick way out of our nation's problems, when the truth
> is that the only way out is an all-out effort. What I do promise you
> is that I will lead our fight, and I will enforce fairness in our
> struggle, and I will ensure honesty. And above all, I will act. We can
> manage the short-term shortages more effectively and we will, but
> there are no short-term solutions to our long-range problems. There is
> simply no way to avoid sacrifice. .."
>
> Too bad we hadn't listened to Jimmy Carter.
>
> Mr Soul
Too bad the Big Oil conglomerates did all they could
to destroy his credibility, assassinate his character,
have the military sabotage the Iranian rescue attempt
and smear him after inheriting the Oil Crisis from Nixon,
just like Big Oil is trying to discredit the threats of
Extreme Climate Shifting.
"Elvis Kabong" <ampscience@tuneland.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mr Soul" <pcDAW@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:3884e677-7511-4bd3-91e1-1c1db9e923f1@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> From Carter's 7/15/79 "Crisis of Confidence" speech:
>>
>> "... We know the strength of America. We are strong. We can regain our
>> unity. We can regain our confidence. We are the heirs of generations
>> who survived threats much more powerful and awesome than those that
>> challenge us now. Our fathers and mothers were strong men and women
>> who shaped a new society during the Great Depression, who fought world
>> wars, and who carved out a new charter of peace for the world.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> All the traditions of our past, all the lessons of our heritage, all
>> the promises of our future point to another path, the path of common
>> purpose and the restoration of American values. That path leads to
>> true freedom for our nation and ourselves. We can take the first steps
>> down that path as we begin to solve our energy problem.
>>
>> Energy will be the immediate test of our ability to unite this nation,
>> and it can also be the standard around which we rally. On the
>> battlefield of energy we can win for our nation a new confidence, and
>> we can seize control again of our common destiny.
>>
>> In little more than two decades we've gone from a position of energy
>> independence to one in which almost half the oil we use comes from
>> foreign countries, at prices that are going through the roof. Our
>> excessive dependence on OPEC has already taken a tremendous toll on
>> our economy and our people...
>>
>> What I have to say to you now about energy is simple and vitally
>> important.
>>
>> Point one: I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of
>> the United States. Beginning this moment, this nation will never use
>> more foreign oil than we did in 1977 -- never...I am tonight setting
>> the further goal of cutting our dependence on foreign oil by one-half
>> by the end of the next decade -- a saving of over 4-1/2 million
>> barrels of imported oil per day.
>>
>> Point two: To ensure that we meet these targets, I will use my
>> presidential authority to set import quotas. I'm announcing tonight
>> that for 1979 and 1980, I will forbid the entry into this country of
>> one drop of foreign oil more than these goals allow...
>>
>> Point three: To give us energy security, I am asking for the most
>> massive peacetime commitment of funds and resources in our nation's
>> history to develop America's own alternative sources of fuel -- from
>> coal, from oil shale, from plant products for gasohol, from
>> unconventional gas, from the sun.
>>
>> I propose the creation of an energy security corporation to lead this
>> effort to replace 2-1/2 million barrels of imported oil per day by
>> 1990. The corporation I will issue up to $5 billion in energy bonds,
>> and I especially want them to be in small denominations so that
>> average Americans can invest directly in America's energy security.
>>
>> Just as a similar synthetic rubber corporation helped us win World War
>> II, so will we mobilize American determination and ability to win the
>> energy war. Moreover, I will soon submit legislation to Congress
>> calling for the creation of this nation's first solar bank, which will
>> help us achieve the crucial goal of 20 percent of our energy coming
>> from solar power by the year 2000.
>>
>> These efforts will cost money, a lot of money, and that is why
>> Congress must enact the windfall profits tax without delay. It will be
>> money well spent. Unlike the billions of dollars that we ship to
>> foreign countries to pay for foreign oil, these funds will be paid by
>> Americans to Americans. These funds will go to fight, not to increase,
>> inflation and unemployment.
>>
>> Point four: I'm asking Congress to mandate, to require as a matter of
>> law, that our nation's utility companies cut their massive use of oil
>> by 50 percent within the next decade and switch to other fuels,
>> especially coal, our most abundant energy source.
>>
>> Point six: I'm proposing a bold conservation program to involve every
>> state, county, and city and every average American in our energy
>> battle. This effort will permit you to build conservation into your
>> homes and your lives at a cost you can afford.
>>
>> You know we can do it. We have the natural resources. We have more oil
>> in our shale alone than several Saudi Arabias. We have more coal than
>> any nation on Earth. We have the world's highest level of technology.
>> We have the most skilled work force, with innovative genius, and I
>> firmly believe that we have the national will to win this war.
>>
>> I do not promise you that this struggle for freedom will be easy. I do
>> not promise a quick way out of our nation's problems, when the truth
>> is that the only way out is an all-out effort. What I do promise you
>> is that I will lead our fight, and I will enforce fairness in our
>> struggle, and I will ensure honesty. And above all, I will act. We can
>> manage the short-term shortages more effectively and we will, but
>> there are no short-term solutions to our long-range problems. There is
>> simply no way to avoid sacrifice. .."
>>
>> Too bad we hadn't listened to Jimmy Carter.
>>
>> Mr Soul
>
> Too bad the Big Oil conglomerates did all they could
> to destroy his credibility, assassinate his character,
> have the military sabotage the Iranian rescue attempt
> and smear him after inheriting the Oil Crisis from Nixon,
> just like Big Oil is trying to discredit the threats of
> Extreme Climate Shifting.
Not only that but remember the Yellow Pages ads the
following year full of all sorts of solar technology? As I
recall, there were at least 20 pages of ads in the New Orleans
Yellow Pages. Then a few years later (during Reagan - who
was the asshole who cut Carter's designated funding for
alternative energy research and development) they were
all gone! From what I've been told, the Big Oil companies
bought out all of those small businesses of solar energy
and their "contraptions" out and they are warehoused in
some unknown locations - probably the same place Cheney
the Dick hides every time there's a national emergency.
In article <RMpWj.44583$3v1.34302@bignews3.bellsouth.net>,
Elvis Kabong <ampscience@tuneland.com> wrote:
>
>"Elvis Kabong" <ampscience@tuneland.com> wrote in message
>news:xDpWj.44579$3v1.23924@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>
>> "Mr Soul" <pcDAW@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:3884e677-7511-4bd3-91e1-1c1db9e923f1@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>> From Carter's 7/15/79 "Crisis of Confidence" speech:
>>>
>>> "... We know the strength of America. We are strong. We can regain our
>>> unity. We can regain our confidence. We are the heirs of generations
>>> who survived threats much more powerful and awesome than those that
>>> challenge us now. Our fathers and mothers were strong men and women
>>> who shaped a new society during the Great Depression, who fought world
>>> wars, and who carved out a new charter of peace for the world.
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> All the traditions of our past, all the lessons of our heritage, all
>>> the promises of our future point to another path, the path of common
>>> purpose and the restoration of American values. That path leads to
>>> true freedom for our nation and ourselves. We can take the first steps
>>> down that path as we begin to solve our energy problem.
>>>
>>> Energy will be the immediate test of our ability to unite this nation,
>>> and it can also be the standard around which we rally. On the
>>> battlefield of energy we can win for our nation a new confidence, and
>>> we can seize control again of our common destiny.
>>>
>>> In little more than two decades we've gone from a position of energy
>>> independence to one in which almost half the oil we use comes from
>>> foreign countries, at prices that are going through the roof. Our
>>> excessive dependence on OPEC has already taken a tremendous toll on
>>> our economy and our people...
>>>
>>> What I have to say to you now about energy is simple and vitally
>>> important.
>>>
>>> Point one: I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of
>>> the United States. Beginning this moment, this nation will never use
>>> more foreign oil than we did in 1977 -- never...I am tonight setting
>>> the further goal of cutting our dependence on foreign oil by one-half
>>> by the end of the next decade -- a saving of over 4-1/2 million
>>> barrels of imported oil per day.
>>>
>>> Point two: To ensure that we meet these targets, I will use my
>>> presidential authority to set import quotas. I'm announcing tonight
>>> that for 1979 and 1980, I will forbid the entry into this country of
>>> one drop of foreign oil more than these goals allow...
>>>
>>> Point three: To give us energy security, I am asking for the most
>>> massive peacetime commitment of funds and resources in our nation's
>>> history to develop America's own alternative sources of fuel -- from
>>> coal, from oil shale, from plant products for gasohol, from
>>> unconventional gas, from the sun.
>>>
>>> I propose the creation of an energy security corporation to lead this
>>> effort to replace 2-1/2 million barrels of imported oil per day by
>>> 1990. The corporation I will issue up to $5 billion in energy bonds,
>>> and I especially want them to be in small denominations so that
>>> average Americans can invest directly in America's energy security.
>>>
>>> Just as a similar synthetic rubber corporation helped us win World War
>>> II, so will we mobilize American determination and ability to win the
>>> energy war. Moreover, I will soon submit legislation to Congress
>>> calling for the creation of this nation's first solar bank, which will
>>> help us achieve the crucial goal of 20 percent of our energy coming
>>> from solar power by the year 2000.
>>>
>>> These efforts will cost money, a lot of money, and that is why
>>> Congress must enact the windfall profits tax without delay. It will be
>>> money well spent. Unlike the billions of dollars that we ship to
>>> foreign countries to pay for foreign oil, these funds will be paid by
>>> Americans to Americans. These funds will go to fight, not to increase,
>>> inflation and unemployment.
>>>
>>> Point four: I'm asking Congress to mandate, to require as a matter of
>>> law, that our nation's utility companies cut their massive use of oil
>>> by 50 percent within the next decade and switch to other fuels,
>>> especially coal, our most abundant energy source.
>>>
>>> Point six: I'm proposing a bold conservation program to involve every
>>> state, county, and city and every average American in our energy
>>> battle. This effort will permit you to build conservation into your
>>> homes and your lives at a cost you can afford.
>>>
>>> You know we can do it. We have the natural resources. We have more oil
>>> in our shale alone than several Saudi Arabias. We have more coal than
>>> any nation on Earth. We have the world's highest level of technology.
>>> We have the most skilled work force, with innovative genius, and I
>>> firmly believe that we have the national will to win this war.
>>>
>>> I do not promise you that this struggle for freedom will be easy. I do
>>> not promise a quick way out of our nation's problems, when the truth
>>> is that the only way out is an all-out effort. What I do promise you
>>> is that I will lead our fight, and I will enforce fairness in our
>>> struggle, and I will ensure honesty. And above all, I will act. We can
>>> manage the short-term shortages more effectively and we will, but
>>> there are no short-term solutions to our long-range problems. There is
>>> simply no way to avoid sacrifice. .."
>>>
>>> Too bad we hadn't listened to Jimmy Carter.
>>>
>>> Mr Soul
>>
>> Too bad the Big Oil conglomerates did all they could
>> to destroy his credibility, assassinate his character,
>> have the military sabotage the Iranian rescue attempt
>> and smear him after inheriting the Oil Crisis from Nixon,
>> just like Big Oil is trying to discredit the threats of
>> Extreme Climate Shifting.
>
>Not only that but remember the Yellow Pages ads the
>following year full of all sorts of solar technology? As I
>recall, there were at least 20 pages of ads in the New Orleans
>Yellow Pages. Then a few years later (during Reagan - who
>was the asshole who cut Carter's designated funding for
>alternative energy research and development) they were
>all gone! From what I've been told, the Big Oil companies
>bought out all of those small businesses of solar energy
>and their "contraptions" out and they are warehoused in
>some unknown locations - probably the same place Cheney
>the Dick hides every time there's a national emergency.
>
>
This
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_Solar_One>
<http://www.nevadasolarone.net/>
went on line less than a year ago in spite of Big Oil...
Then there's this...
<http://www.sandia.gov/news/resources/releases/2008/solargrid.html>
I also read somewhere that there are plans to install Megawatts of
solar generating equipment at the Nevada Test Site, but I can' t
find the link at the moment.
There's also this...
<http://dwb.adn.com/front/story/4214182p-4226215c.html>
Elvis Kabong <ampscience@tuneland.com> wrote:
>
>"Elvis Kabong" <ampscience@tuneland.com> wrote in message
>news:xDpWj.44579$3v1.23924@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>
>> "Mr Soul" <pcDAW@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:3884e677-7511-4bd3-91e1-1c1db9e923f1@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>> From Carter's 7/15/79 "Crisis of Confidence" speech:
>>>
>>> "... We know the strength of America. We are strong. We can regain our
>>> unity. We can regain our confidence. We are the heirs of generations
>>> who survived threats much more powerful and awesome than those that
>>> challenge us now. Our fathers and mothers were strong men and women
>>> who shaped a new society during the Great Depression, who fought world
>>> wars, and who carved out a new charter of peace for the world.
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> All the traditions of our past, all the lessons of our heritage, all
>>> the promises of our future point to another path, the path of common
>>> purpose and the restoration of American values. That path leads to
>>> true freedom for our nation and ourselves. We can take the first steps
>>> down that path as we begin to solve our energy problem.
>>>
>>> Energy will be the immediate test of our ability to unite this nation,
>>> and it can also be the standard around which we rally. On the
>>> battlefield of energy we can win for our nation a new confidence, and
>>> we can seize control again of our common destiny.
>>>
>>> In little more than two decades we've gone from a position of energy
>>> independence to one in which almost half the oil we use comes from
>>> foreign countries, at prices that are going through the roof. Our
>>> excessive dependence on OPEC has already taken a tremendous toll on
>>> our economy and our people...
>>>
>>> What I have to say to you now about energy is simple and vitally
>>> important.
>>>
>>> Point one: I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of
>>> the United States. Beginning this moment, this nation will never use
>>> more foreign oil than we did in 1977 -- never...I am tonight setting
>>> the further goal of cutting our dependence on foreign oil by one-half
>>> by the end of the next decade -- a saving of over 4-1/2 million
>>> barrels of imported oil per day.
>>>
>>> Point two: To ensure that we meet these targets, I will use my
>>> presidential authority to set import quotas. I'm announcing tonight
>>> that for 1979 and 1980, I will forbid the entry into this country of
>>> one drop of foreign oil more than these goals allow...
>>>
>>> Point three: To give us energy security, I am asking for the most
>>> massive peacetime commitment of funds and resources in our nation's
>>> history to develop America's own alternative sources of fuel -- from
>>> coal, from oil shale, from plant products for gasohol, from
>>> unconventional gas, from the sun.
>>>
>>> I propose the creation of an energy security corporation to lead this
>>> effort to replace 2-1/2 million barrels of imported oil per day by
>>> 1990. The corporation I will issue up to $5 billion in energy bonds,
>>> and I especially want them to be in small denominations so that
>>> average Americans can invest directly in America's energy security.
>>>
>>> Just as a similar synthetic rubber corporation helped us win World War
>>> II, so will we mobilize American determination and ability to win the
>>> energy war. Moreover, I will soon submit legislation to Congress
>>> calling for the creation of this nation's first solar bank, which will
>>> help us achieve the crucial goal of 20 percent of our energy coming
>>> from solar power by the year 2000.
>>>
>>> These efforts will cost money, a lot of money, and that is why
>>> Congress must enact the windfall profits tax without delay. It will be
>>> money well spent. Unlike the billions of dollars that we ship to
>>> foreign countries to pay for foreign oil, these funds will be paid by
>>> Americans to Americans. These funds will go to fight, not to increase,
>>> inflation and unemployment.
>>>
>>> Point four: I'm asking Congress to mandate, to require as a matter of
>>> law, that our nation's utility companies cut their massive use of oil
>>> by 50 percent within the next decade and switch to other fuels,
>>> especially coal, our most abundant energy source.
>>>
>>> Point six: I'm proposing a bold conservation program to involve every
>>> state, county, and city and every average American in our energy
>>> battle. This effort will permit you to build conservation into your
>>> homes and your lives at a cost you can afford.
>>>
>>> You know we can do it. We have the natural resources. We have more oil
>>> in our shale alone than several Saudi Arabias. We have more coal than
>>> any nation on Earth. We have the world's highest level of technology.
>>> We have the most skilled work force, with innovative genius, and I
>>> firmly believe that we have the national will to win this war.
>>>
>>> I do not promise you that this struggle for freedom will be easy. I do
>>> not promise a quick way out of our nation's problems, when the truth
>>> is that the only way out is an all-out effort. What I do promise you
>>> is that I will lead our fight, and I will enforce fairness in our
>>> struggle, and I will ensure honesty. And above all, I will act. We can
>>> manage the short-term shortages more effectively and we will, but
>>> there are no short-term solutions to our long-range problems. There is
>>> simply no way to avoid sacrifice. .."
>>>
>>> Too bad we hadn't listened to Jimmy Carter.
>>>
>>> Mr Soul
>>
>> Too bad the Big Oil conglomerates did all they could
>> to destroy his credibility, assassinate his character,
>> have the military sabotage the Iranian rescue attempt
>> and smear him after inheriting the Oil Crisis from Nixon,
>> just like Big Oil is trying to discredit the threats of
>> Extreme Climate Shifting.
>
>Not only that but remember the Yellow Pages ads the
>following year full of all sorts of solar technology? As I
>recall, there were at least 20 pages of ads in the New Orleans
>Yellow Pages. Then a few years later (during Reagan - who
>was the asshole who cut Carter's designated funding for
>alternative energy research and development) they were
>all gone! From what I've been told, the Big Oil companies
>bought out all of those small businesses of solar energy
>and their "contraptions" out and they are warehoused in
>some unknown locations - probably the same place Cheney
>the Dick hides every time there's a national emergency.
>
>
This
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_Solar_One>
<http://www.nevadasolarone.net/>
went on line less than a year ago in spite of Big Oil...
Then there's this...
<http://www.sandia.gov/news/resources/releases/2008/solargrid.html>
I also read somewhere that there are plans to install Megawatts of
solar generating equipment at the Nevada Test Site, but I can' t
find the link at the moment.
There's also this...
<http://dwb.adn.com/front/story/4214182p-4226215c.html>
"Claude V. Lucas" <claudel@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:482a2c38$0$34521$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> In article <RMpWj.44583$3v1.34302@bignews3.bellsouth.net>,
> Elvis Kabong <ampscience@tuneland.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Elvis Kabong" <ampscience@tuneland.com> wrote in message
>>news:xDpWj.44579$3v1.23924@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>>
>>> "Mr Soul" <pcDAW@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:3884e677-7511-4bd3-91e1-1c1db9e923f1@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>> From Carter's 7/15/79 "Crisis of Confidence" speech:
>>>>
>>>> "... We know the strength of America. We are strong. We can regain our
>>>> unity. We can regain our confidence. We are the heirs of generations
>>>> who survived threats much more powerful and awesome than those that
>>>> challenge us now. Our fathers and mothers were strong men and women
>>>> who shaped a new society during the Great Depression, who fought world
>>>> wars, and who carved out a new charter of peace for the world.
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> All the traditions of our past, all the lessons of our heritage, all
>>>> the promises of our future point to another path, the path of common
>>>> purpose and the restoration of American values. That path leads to
>>>> true freedom for our nation and ourselves. We can take the first steps
>>>> down that path as we begin to solve our energy problem.
>>>>
>>>> Energy will be the immediate test of our ability to unite this nation,
>>>> and it can also be the standard around which we rally. On the
>>>> battlefield of energy we can win for our nation a new confidence, and
>>>> we can seize control again of our common destiny.
>>>>
>>>> In little more than two decades we've gone from a position of energy
>>>> independence to one in which almost half the oil we use comes from
>>>> foreign countries, at prices that are going through the roof. Our
>>>> excessive dependence on OPEC has already taken a tremendous toll on
>>>> our economy and our people...
>>>>
>>>> What I have to say to you now about energy is simple and vitally
>>>> important.
>>>>
>>>> Point one: I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of
>>>> the United States. Beginning this moment, this nation will never use
>>>> more foreign oil than we did in 1977 -- never...I am tonight setting
>>>> the further goal of cutting our dependence on foreign oil by one-half
>>>> by the end of the next decade -- a saving of over 4-1/2 million
>>>> barrels of imported oil per day.
>>>>
>>>> Point two: To ensure that we meet these targets, I will use my
>>>> presidential authority to set import quotas. I'm announcing tonight
>>>> that for 1979 and 1980, I will forbid the entry into this country of
>>>> one drop of foreign oil more than these goals allow...
>>>>
>>>> Point three: To give us energy security, I am asking for the most
>>>> massive peacetime commitment of funds and resources in our nation's
>>>> history to develop America's own alternative sources of fuel -- from
>>>> coal, from oil shale, from plant products for gasohol, from
>>>> unconventional gas, from the sun.
>>>>
>>>> I propose the creation of an energy security corporation to lead this
>>>> effort to replace 2-1/2 million barrels of imported oil per day by
>>>> 1990. The corporation I will issue up to $5 billion in energy bonds,
>>>> and I especially want them to be in small denominations so that
>>>> average Americans can invest directly in America's energy security.
>>>>
>>>> Just as a similar synthetic rubber corporation helped us win World War
>>>> II, so will we mobilize American determination and ability to win the
>>>> energy war. Moreover, I will soon submit legislation to Congress
>>>> calling for the creation of this nation's first solar bank, which will
>>>> help us achieve the crucial goal of 20 percent of our energy coming
>>>> from solar power by the year 2000.
>>>>
>>>> These efforts will cost money, a lot of money, and that is why
>>>> Congress must enact the windfall profits tax without delay. It will be
>>>> money well spent. Unlike the billions of dollars that we ship to
>>>> foreign countries to pay for foreign oil, these funds will be paid by
>>>> Americans to Americans. These funds will go to fight, not to increase,
>>>> inflation and unemployment.
>>>>
>>>> Point four: I'm asking Congress to mandate, to require as a matter of
>>>> law, that our nation's utility companies cut their massive use of oil
>>>> by 50 percent within the next decade and switch to other fuels,
>>>> especially coal, our most abundant energy source.
>>>>
>>>> Point six: I'm proposing a bold conservation program to involve every
>>>> state, county, and city and every average American in our energy
>>>> battle. This effort will permit you to build conservation into your
>>>> homes and your lives at a cost you can afford.
>>>>
>>>> You know we can do it. We have the natural resources. We have more oil
>>>> in our shale alone than several Saudi Arabias. We have more coal than
>>>> any nation on Earth. We have the world's highest level of technology.
>>>> We have the most skilled work force, with innovative genius, and I
>>>> firmly believe that we have the national will to win this war.
>>>>
>>>> I do not promise you that this struggle for freedom will be easy. I do
>>>> not promise a quick way out of our nation's problems, when the truth
>>>> is that the only way out is an all-out effort. What I do promise you
>>>> is that I will lead our fight, and I will enforce fairness in our
>>>> struggle, and I will ensure honesty. And above all, I will act. We can
>>>> manage the short-term shortages more effectively and we will, but
>>>> there are no short-term solutions to our long-range problems. There is
>>>> simply no way to avoid sacrifice. .."
>>>>
>>>> Too bad we hadn't listened to Jimmy Carter.
>>>>
>>>> Mr Soul
>>>
>>> Too bad the Big Oil conglomerates did all they could
>>> to destroy his credibility, assassinate his character,
>>> have the military sabotage the Iranian rescue attempt
>>> and smear him after inheriting the Oil Crisis from Nixon,
>>> just like Big Oil is trying to discredit the threats of
>>> Extreme Climate Shifting.
>>
>>Not only that but remember the Yellow Pages ads the
>>following year full of all sorts of solar technology? As I
>>recall, there were at least 20 pages of ads in the New Orleans
>>Yellow Pages. Then a few years later (during Reagan - who
>>was the asshole who cut Carter's designated funding for
>>alternative energy research and development) they were
>>all gone! From what I've been told, the Big Oil companies
>>bought out all of those small businesses of solar energy
>>and their "contraptions" out and they are warehoused in
>>some unknown locations - probably the same place Cheney
>>the Dick hides every time there's a national emergency.
>>
>>
>
> This
>
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_Solar_One>
Excellent!
> <http://www.nevadasolarone.net/>
Cool! Hey, I like being proven wrong when the results
are like this! However, it seems like some companies
took the initiative instead of the government which I hope
gives them some tax breaks for setting up those kinds
of power plants.
Thanks Claude. These at least provide some hope
for the future when the oil is completely depleted.
> went on line less than a year ago in spite of Big Oil...
>
> Then there's this...
>
> <http://www.sandia.gov/news/resources/releases/2008/solargrid.html>
>
> I also read somewhere that there are plans to install Megawatts of
> solar generating equipment at the Nevada Test Site, but I can' t
> find the link at the moment.
>
> There's also this...
>
> <http://dwb.adn.com/front/story/4214182p-4226215c.html>
Too bad it's not fusion and too bad no one has solved what
to do with the waste by-products yet. Did you ever see
that PBS show " Connections"? In one of the series, the host
showed how one by-product after another became a useful
component for the evolving technology of internal combustion
engine. Now if only someone could come up with a practical
and safe use for nuclear waste.
In article <4XqWj.134333$Er2.79538@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
Elvis Kabong <ampscience@tuneland.com> wrote:
>
>"Claude V. Lucas" <claudel@sonic.net> wrote in message
>news:482a2c38$0$34521$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>> In article <RMpWj.44583$3v1.34302@bignews3.bellsouth.net>,
>> Elvis Kabong <ampscience@tuneland.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Elvis Kabong" <ampscience@tuneland.com> wrote in message
>>>news:xDpWj.44579$3v1.23924@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Mr Soul" <pcDAW@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:3884e677-7511-4bd3-91e1-1c1db9e923f1@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> From Carter's 7/15/79 "Crisis of Confidence" speech:
>>>>>
>>>>> "... We know the strength of America. We are strong. We can regain our
>>>>> unity. We can regain our confidence. We are the heirs of generations
>>>>> who survived threats much more powerful and awesome than those that
>>>>> challenge us now. Our fathers and mothers were strong men and women
>>>>> who shaped a new society during the Great Depression, who fought world
>>>>> wars, and who carved out a new charter of peace for the world.
>>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> All the traditions of our past, all the lessons of our heritage, all
>>>>> the promises of our future point to another path, the path of common
>>>>> purpose and the restoration of American values. That path leads to
>>>>> true freedom for our nation and ourselves. We can take the first steps
>>>>> down that path as we begin to solve our energy problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Energy will be the immediate test of our ability to unite this nation,
>>>>> and it can also be the standard around which we rally. On the
>>>>> battlefield of energy we can win for our nation a new confidence, and
>>>>> we can seize control again of our common destiny.
>>>>>
>>>>> In little more than two decades we've gone from a position of energy
>>>>> independence to one in which almost half the oil we use comes from
>>>>> foreign countries, at prices that are going through the roof. Our
>>>>> excessive dependence on OPEC has already taken a tremendous toll on
>>>>> our economy and our people...
>>>>>
>>>>> What I have to say to you now about energy is simple and vitally
>>>>> important.
>>>>>
>>>>> Point one: I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of
>>>>> the United States. Beginning this moment, this nation will never use
>>>>> more foreign oil than we did in 1977 -- never...I am tonight setting
>>>>> the further goal of cutting our dependence on foreign oil by one-half
>>>>> by the end of the next decade -- a saving of over 4-1/2 million
>>>>> barrels of imported oil per day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Point two: To ensure that we meet these targets, I will use my
>>>>> presidential authority to set import quotas. I'm announcing tonight
>>>>> that for 1979 and 1980, I will forbid the entry into this country of
>>>>> one drop of foreign oil more than these goals allow...
>>>>>
>>>>> Point three: To give us energy security, I am asking for the most
>>>>> massive peacetime commitment of funds and resources in our nation's
>>>>> history to develop America's own alternative sources of fuel -- from
>>>>> coal, from oil shale, from plant products for gasohol, from
>>>>> unconventional gas, from the sun.
>>>>>
>>>>> I propose the creation of an energy security corporation to lead this
>>>>> effort to replace 2-1/2 million barrels of imported oil per day by
>>>>> 1990. The corporation I will issue up to $5 billion in energy bonds,
>>>>> and I especially want them to be in small denominations so that
>>>>> average Americans can invest directly in America's energy security.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just as a similar synthetic rubber corporation helped us win World War
>>>>> II, so will we mobilize American determination and ability to win the
>>>>> energy war. Moreover, I will soon submit legislation to Congress
>>>>> calling for the creation of this nation's first solar bank, which will
>>>>> help us achieve the crucial goal of 20 percent of our energy coming
>>>>> from solar power by the year 2000.
>>>>>
>>>>> These efforts will cost money, a lot of money, and that is why
>>>>> Congress must enact the windfall profits tax without delay. It will be
>>>>> money well spent. Unlike the billions of dollars that we ship to
>>>>> foreign countries to pay for foreign oil, these funds will be paid by
>>>>> Americans to Americans. These funds will go to fight, not to increase,
>>>>> inflation and unemployment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Point four: I'm asking Congress to mandate, to require as a matter of
>>>>> law, that our nation's utility companies cut their massive use of oil
>>>>> by 50 percent within the next decade and switch to other fuels,
>>>>> especially coal, our most abundant energy source.
>>>>>
>>>>> Point six: I'm proposing a bold conservation program to involve every
>>>>> state, county, and city and every average American in our energy
>>>>> battle. This effort will permit you to build conservation into your
>>>>> homes and your lives at a cost you can afford.
>>>>>
>>>>> You know we can do it. We have the natural resources. We have more oil
>>>>> in our shale alone than several Saudi Arabias. We have more coal than
>>>>> any nation on Earth. We have the world's highest level of technology.
>>>>> We have the most skilled work force, with innovative genius, and I
>>>>> firmly believe that we have the national will to win this war.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not promise you that this struggle for freedom will be easy. I do
>>>>> not promise a quick way out of our nation's problems, when the truth
>>>>> is that the only way out is an all-out effort. What I do promise you
>>>>> is that I will lead our fight, and I will enforce fairness in our
>>>>> struggle, and I will ensure honesty. And above all, I will act. We can
>>>>> manage the short-term shortages more effectively and we will, but
>>>>> there are no short-term solutions to our long-range problems. There is
>>>>> simply no way to avoid sacrifice. .."
>>>>>
>>>>> Too bad we hadn't listened to Jimmy Carter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mr Soul
>>>>
>>>> Too bad the Big Oil conglomerates did all they could
>>>> to destroy his credibility, assassinate his character,
>>>> have the military sabotage the Iranian rescue attempt
>>>> and smear him after inheriting the Oil Crisis from Nixon,
>>>> just like Big Oil is trying to discredit the threats of
>>>> Extreme Climate Shifting.
>>>
>>>Not only that but remember the Yellow Pages ads the
>>>following year full of all sorts of solar technology? As I
>>>recall, there were at least 20 pages of ads in the New Orleans
>>>Yellow Pages. Then a few years later (during Reagan - who
>>>was the asshole who cut Carter's designated funding for
>>>alternative energy research and development) they were
>>>all gone! From what I've been told, the Big Oil companies
>>>bought out all of those small businesses of solar energy
>>>and their "contraptions" out and they are warehoused in
>>>some unknown locations - probably the same place Cheney
>>>the Dick hides every time there's a national emergency.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> This
>>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_Solar_One>
>
>Excellent!
>
>> <http://www.nevadasolarone.net/>
>
>Cool! Hey, I like being proven wrong when the results
>are like this! However, it seems like some companies
>took the initiative instead of the government which I hope
>gives them some tax breaks for setting up those kinds
>of power plants.
>
>Thanks Claude. These at least provide some hope
>for the future when the oil is completely depleted.
>
>> went on line less than a year ago in spite of Big Oil...
>>
>> Then there's this...
>>
>> <http://www.sandia.gov/news/resources/releases/2008/solargrid.html>
>>
>> I also read somewhere that there are plans to install Megawatts of
>> solar generating equipment at the Nevada Test Site, but I can' t
>> find the link at the moment.
>>
>> There's also this...
>>
>> <http://dwb.adn.com/front/story/4214182p-4226215c.html>
>
>Too bad it's not fusion and too bad no one has solved what
>to do with the waste by-products yet. Did you ever see
>that PBS show " Connections"? In one of the series, the host
>showed how one by-product after another became a useful
>component for the evolving technology of internal combustion
>engine. Now if only someone could come up with a practical
>and safe use for nuclear waste.
One of the nifty things about this design is that "the power
comes from a core of non-weapons-grade uranium about 30 inches
in diameter and 6 feet tall. It would put out a steady stream of
932-degree heat for three decades but can be removed and replaced
like a flashlight battery when the power is depleted"
These are expected to cost ~$20Mil apiece when they go into
production and can be transported by helicopter to wherever.
At least there is progress being made in what is called
"encapsulation" of the waste. What can't be reprocessed
can be imbedded in an inert substance and stored and/or
transported relatively safely.
Someone will eventually solve the fusion problem.
Elvis Kabong <ampscience@tuneland.com> wrote:
>
>"Claude V. Lucas" <claudel@sonic.net> wrote in message
>news:482a2c38$0$34521$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>> In article <RMpWj.44583$3v1.34302@bignews3.bellsouth.net>,
>> Elvis Kabong <ampscience@tuneland.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Elvis Kabong" <ampscience@tuneland.com> wrote in message
>>>news:xDpWj.44579$3v1.23924@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Mr Soul" <pcDAW@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:3884e677-7511-4bd3-91e1-1c1db9e923f1@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> From Carter's 7/15/79 "Crisis of Confidence" speech:
>>>>>
>>>>> "... We know the strength of America. We are strong. We can regain our
>>>>> unity. We can regain our confidence. We are the heirs of generations
>>>>> who survived threats much more powerful and awesome than those that
>>>>> challenge us now. Our fathers and mothers were strong men and women
>>>>> who shaped a new society during the Great Depression, who fought world
>>>>> wars, and who carved out a new charter of peace for the world.
>>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> All the traditions of our past, all the lessons of our heritage, all
>>>>> the promises of our future point to another path, the path of common
>>>>> purpose and the restoration of American values. That path leads to
>>>>> true freedom for our nation and ourselves. We can take the first steps
>>>>> down that path as we begin to solve our energy problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Energy will be the immediate test of our ability to unite this nation,
>>>>> and it can also be the standard around which we rally. On the
>>>>> battlefield of energy we can win for our nation a new confidence, and
>>>>> we can seize control again of our common destiny.
>>>>>
>>>>> In little more than two decades we've gone from a position of energy
>>>>> independence to one in which almost half the oil we use comes from
>>>>> foreign countries, at prices that are going through the roof. Our
>>>>> excessive dependence on OPEC has already taken a tremendous toll on
>>>>> our economy and our people...
>>>>>
>>>>> What I have to say to you now about energy is simple and vitally
>>>>> important.
>>>>>
>>>>> Point one: I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of
>>>>> the United States. Beginning this moment, this nation will never use
>>>>> more foreign oil than we did in 1977 -- never...I am tonight setting
>>>>> the further goal of cutting our dependence on foreign oil by one-half
>>>>> by the end of the next decade -- a saving of over 4-1/2 million
>>>>> barrels of imported oil per day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Point two: To ensure that we meet these targets, I will use my
>>>>> presidential authority to set import quotas. I'm announcing tonight
>>>>> that for 1979 and 1980, I will forbid the entry into this country of
>>>>> one drop of foreign oil more than these goals allow...
>>>>>
>>>>> Point three: To give us energy security, I am asking for the most
>>>>> massive peacetime commitment of funds and resources in our nation's
>>>>> history to develop America's own alternative sources of fuel -- from
>>>>> coal, from oil shale, from plant products for gasohol, from
>>>>> unconventional gas, from the sun.
>>>>>
>>>>> I propose the creation of an energy security corporation to lead this
>>>>> effort to replace 2-1/2 million barrels of imported oil per day by
>>>>> 1990. The corporation I will issue up to $5 billion in energy bonds,
>>>>> and I especially want them to be in small denominations so that
>>>>> average Americans can invest directly in America's energy security.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just as a similar synthetic rubber corporation helped us win World War
>>>>> II, so will we mobilize American determination and ability to win the
>>>>> energy war. Moreover, I will soon submit legislation to Congress
>>>>> calling for the creation of this nation's first solar bank, which will
>>>>> help us achieve the crucial goal of 20 percent of our energy coming
>>>>> from solar power by the year 2000.
>>>>>
>>>>> These efforts will cost money, a lot of money, and that is why
>>>>> Congress must enact the windfall profits tax without delay. It will be
>>>>> money well spent. Unlike the billions of dollars that we ship to
>>>>> foreign countries to pay for foreign oil, these funds will be paid by
>>>>> Americans to Americans. These funds will go to fight, not to increase,
>>>>> inflation and unemployment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Point four: I'm asking Congress to mandate, to require as a matter of
>>>>> law, that our nation's utility companies cut their massive use of oil
>>>>> by 50 percent within the next decade and switch to other fuels,
>>>>> especially coal, our most abundant energy source.
>>>>>
>>>>> Point six: I'm proposing a bold conservation program to involve every
>>>>> state, county, and city and every average American in our energy
>>>>> battle. This effort will permit you to build conservation into your
>>>>> homes and your lives at a cost you can afford.
>>>>>
>>>>> You know we can do it. We have the natural resources. We have more oil
>>>>> in our shale alone than several Saudi Arabias. We have more coal than
>>>>> any nation on Earth. We have the world's highest level of technology.
>>>>> We have the most skilled work force, with innovative genius, and I
>>>>> firmly believe that we have the national will to win this war.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not promise you that this struggle for freedom will be easy. I do
>>>>> not promise a quick way out of our nation's problems, when the truth
>>>>> is that the only way out is an all-out effort. What I do promise you
>>>>> is that I will lead our fight, and I will enforce fairness in our
>>>>> struggle, and I will ensure honesty. And above all, I will act. We can
>>>>> manage the short-term shortages more effectively and we will, but
>>>>> there are no short-term solutions to our long-range problems. There is
>>>>> simply no way to avoid sacrifice. .."
>>>>>
>>>>> Too bad we hadn't listened to Jimmy Carter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mr Soul
>>>>
>>>> Too bad the Big Oil conglomerates did all they could
>>>> to destroy his credibility, assassinate his character,
>>>> have the military sabotage the Iranian rescue attempt
>>>> and smear him after inheriting the Oil Crisis from Nixon,
>>>> just like Big Oil is trying to discredit the threats of
>>>> Extreme Climate Shifting.
>>>
>>>Not only that but remember the Yellow Pages ads the
>>>following year full of all sorts of solar technology? As I
>>>recall, there were at least 20 pages of ads in the New Orleans
>>>Yellow Pages. Then a few years later (during Reagan - who
>>>was the asshole who cut Carter's designated funding for
>>>alternative energy research and development) they were
>>>all gone! From what I've been told, the Big Oil companies
>>>bought out all of those small businesses of solar energy
>>>and their "contraptions" out and they are warehoused in
>>>some unknown locations - probably the same place Cheney
>>>the Dick hides every time there's a national emergency.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> This
>>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_Solar_One>
>
>Excellent!
>
>> <http://www.nevadasolarone.net/>
>
>Cool! Hey, I like being proven wrong when the results
>are like this! However, it seems like some companies
>took the initiative instead of the government which I hope
>gives them some tax breaks for setting up those kinds
>of power plants.
>
>Thanks Claude. These at least provide some hope
>for the future when the oil is completely depleted.
>
>> went on line less than a year ago in spite of Big Oil...
>>
>> Then there's this...
>>
>> <http://www.sandia.gov/news/resources/releases/2008/solargrid.html>
>>
>> I also read somewhere that there are plans to install Megawatts of
>> solar generating equipment at the Nevada Test Site, but I can' t
>> find the link at the moment.
>>
>> There's also this...
>>
>> <http://dwb.adn.com/front/story/4214182p-4226215c.html>
>
>Too bad it's not fusion and too bad no one has solved what
>to do with the waste by-products yet. Did you ever see
>that PBS show " Connections"? In one of the series, the host
>showed how one by-product after another became a useful
>component for the evolving technology of internal combustion
>engine. Now if only someone could come up with a practical
>and safe use for nuclear waste.
One of the nifty things about this design is that "the power
comes from a core of non-weapons-grade uranium about 30 inches
in diameter and 6 feet tall. It would put out a steady stream of
932-degree heat for three decades but can be removed and replaced
like a flashlight battery when the power is depleted"
These are expected to cost ~$20Mil apiece when they go into
production and can be transported by helicopter to wherever.
At least there is progress being made in what is called
"encapsulation" of the waste. What can't be reprocessed
can be imbedded in an inert substance and stored and/or
transported relatively safely.
Someone will eventually solve the fusion problem.
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_Solar_One>
Right but these are recent (2007 & 2008) projects. Reagan and (Big
Oil) did set back the development of solar by years.
Don't apologize just yet - Elvis!
Mr Soul
Right but these are recent (2007 & 2008) projects. Reagan and (Big
Oil) did set back the development of solar by years.
Don't apologize just yet - Elvis!
Mr Soul
On Tue, 13 May 2008 18:38:39 -0500, "Elvis Kabong"
<ampscience@tuneland.com> wrote:
>
>Too bad the Big Oil conglomerates did all they could
>to destroy his credibility, assassinate his character,
>have the military sabotage the Iranian rescue attempt
>and smear him after inheriting the Oil Crisis from Nixon,
>just like Big Oil is trying to discredit the threats of
>Extreme Climate Shifting.
>
Too bad that pompous idiot ("Look at me!") Al Gore didn't do a damn
thing those 8 years he was Vice-President to prevent our dependency on
foreign oil and help prevent global warning.
For 8 years he walked around with his finger up his ass while Bill had
his dick sucked.
<ampscience@tuneland.com> wrote:
>
>Too bad the Big Oil conglomerates did all they could
>to destroy his credibility, assassinate his character,
>have the military sabotage the Iranian rescue attempt
>and smear him after inheriting the Oil Crisis from Nixon,
>just like Big Oil is trying to discredit the threats of
>Extreme Climate Shifting.
>
Too bad that pompous idiot ("Look at me!") Al Gore didn't do a damn
thing those 8 years he was Vice-President to prevent our dependency on
foreign oil and help prevent global warning.
For 8 years he walked around with his finger up his ass while Bill had
his dick sucked.
