OT - Jimmy Carter - energy visionary

Re: OT - Jimmy Carter - best President ever

> Too bad that pompous idiot ("Look at me!") Al Gore didn't do a damn
> thing those 8 years he was Vice-President to prevent our dependency on
> foreign oil and help prevent global warning.
Blah, blah, blah. Gore & Clinton haven't been in office for 8 years -
how long are you still going to blame them for things?

Mr Soul

Re: OT - Jimmy Carter - worst president ever

On May 13, 5:55=EF=BF=BDam, Mr Soul <pc...@comcast . net > wrote:
> From Carter's 7/15/79 "Crisis of Confidence" speech:
>
><Liberal propaganda snipped>


LMFAO - check out the liberal circle jerk!

Jimmy Carter had a Gallup Poll approval rating of just 28%. (Equals
Bush's lowest ever)

The sad fucker didn't even have a war or Watergate scandal to deal
with!

People said and still say he was the worst President ever!

You gotta love libs, polls mean everything to Bush, but nothing to
peanuts farter Carter.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Funniest shit ever!


--------

* w w w .gallup . com /poll/106426/Bush-Job-Approval-28-Lowest-Administration=
.aspx

April 11, 2008

Bush's current 28% job approval rating is at the very low end of the
spectrum of approval ratings Gallup has recorded across the 11
presidents in office since World War II.

Only three presidents in Gallup's history have received job approval
ratings of 28% or lower:

Carter's low point of 28% was measured in late June and early July
1979, as the country underwent significant gas shortages and amid
perceptions of a failing economy.

Nixon had a number of readings below 28% in 1973 and 1974 prior to his
leaving office as a result of the Watergate scandal.

Truman recorded a number of readings below 28% in 1951 and 1952 as his
administration was beset, similar to the current situation for Bush,
with problems relating to the economy and an unpopular war (in
Korea).

---------

Libs - hypocrites and liars, every fucking one of them. That's why
they are so despised and lose election after election.

Re: OT - Jimmy Carter - worst president ever

> LMFAO - check out the liberal circle jerk!
>
> Jimmy Carter had a Gallup Poll approval rating of just 28%. (Equals
> Bush's lowest ever)
I guess the same could be said for Bush supporters on the right.

> The sad fucker didn't even have a war or Watergate scandal to deal
> with!
He had something worse - the hostages.

> People said and still say he was the worst President ever!
You can find people that say anything. I say he was a visionary &
well-ahead of his time.

Mr Soul

Re: OT - Jimmy Carter - worst president ever

On Wed, 14 May 2008 05:32:43 -0700 (PDT), Mr Soul <pcDAW@comcast . net >
wrote:

>> LMFAO - check out the liberal circle jerk!
>>
>> Jimmy Carter had a Gallup Poll approval rating of just 28%. (Equals
>> Bush's lowest ever)
>I guess the same could be said for Bush supporters on the right.
>
>> The sad fucker didn't even have a war or Watergate scandal to deal
>> with!
>He had something worse - the hostages.
>

You mean he had something worse because we were so laughed at in the
world that even a lowly new government in Iran bitchslapped us and
took our embassy hostage.



>> People said and still say he was the worst President ever!
>You can find people that say anything. I say he was a visionary &
>well-ahead of his time.


What's so visionary about an energy conservation plan after a major
oil crisis???

LOL

His plan was a complete and utter failure. Some 30 years later we're
still dependant on foreign oil. Carter achieved nothing and was kicked
out of the White House shortly after that speech.

Talk is cheap, he didn't get it done, period. Worst President ever.

Re: OT - Jimmy Carter - worst president ever

> What's so visionary about an energy conservation plan after a major
> oil crisis???
It wasn't just about conservation (if you could learn to read). Who
else had any plan that was better - Reagan?

> His plan was a complete and utter failure. Some 30 years later we're
> still dependant on foreign oil. Carter achieved nothing and was kicked
> out of the White House shortly after that speech.
His plan was never implemented idiot.

> Talk is cheap, he didn't get it done, period. Worst President ever.
You're right. Bush talking to Saudi Arabia is pretty cheap.

Mr Soul

Re: OT - Jimmy Carter - worst president ever

On Fri, 16 May 2008 05:05:40 -0700 (PDT), Mr Soul <pcDAW@comcast . net >
wrote:

>> What's so visionary about an energy conservation plan after a major
>> oil crisis???
>It wasn't just about conservation (if you could learn to read). Who
>else had any plan that was better - Reagan?
>

Oh gee, I didn't mention every point of Carter's failed "visionary"
speech. Watch the liberal get hysterical. LOL

And yes, there was no gas crisis under Reagan's watch, so yes, he was
better.

Carter failed to come through on his goal of us never using more
foreign oil than we did in 1977 - HE FAILED (if you could learn to
read) LOL



>> His plan was a complete and utter failure. Some 30 years later we're
>> still dependant on foreign oil. Carter achieved nothing and was kicked
>> out of the White House shortly after that speech.
>His plan was never implemented idiot.

BECAUSE HE WAS A COMPLETE AND UTTER FAILURE AS A PRESIDENT, YOU
FUCKING MORON!

Learn to read...

JFK set a goal for a man on the moon by the end of the 60's, it
happened, he was a visionary.

Bunghole here can't see the difference.


>
>> Talk is cheap, he didn't get it done, period. Worst President ever.
>You're right. Bush talking to Saudi Arabia is pretty cheap.


Sure, unless the Saudis agree to pump more oil, then it's something,
unlike Carter, who was a total failure and never had an approval
rating as high (or *any* President for that matter) as Bush has had.

Re: OT - Jimmy Carter - worst president ever


>
> >> Talk is cheap, he didn't get it done, period. Worst President ever.
> >You're right. =A0Bush talking to Saudi Arabia is pretty cheap.
>
> Sure, unless the Saudis agree to pump more oil, then it's something,
> unlike Carter, who was a total failure and never had an approval
> rating as high (or *any* President for that matter) as Bush has had.

so much for that idea.

May 17, 2008
Saudis Rebuff Bush, Politely, on Pumping More Oil

By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG and JAD MOUAWAD
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia =97 President Bush used a private visit to King
Abdullah=92s ranch here on Friday to make another appeal for an increase
in oil production that might give American consumers some relief at
the gasoline pump. The Saudis responded by announcing they had decided
a week ago on a modest increase of 300,000 barrels a day.

The White House said the increase would not be enough to lower
gasoline prices, which are nearing $4 a gallon, and industry analysts
called it mostly symbolic.
* w w w .nytimes . com /2008/05/17/world/middleeast/17prexy.html?_r=3D1&hp&or=
ef=3Dslogin

Re: OT - Jimmy Carter - worst president ever

In article <6efd6603-1f04-42a0-a7aa-59ccbcc6217a@q27g2000prf.googlegroups . com >,
TPS <theron@u.washington.edu> bleated:

>>
>> >> Talk is cheap, he didn't get it done, period. Worst President ever.
>> >You're right.  Bush talking to Saudi Arabia is pretty cheap.
>>
>> Sure, unless the Saudis agree to pump more oil, then it's something,
>> unlike Carter, who was a total failure and never had an approval
>> rating as high (or *any* President for that matter) as Bush has had.
>
>so much for that idea.
>
>May 17, 2008
>Saudis Rebuff Bush, Politely, on Pumping More Oil
>
>By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG and JAD MOUAWAD
>RIYADH, Saudi Arabia — President Bush used a private visit to King
>Abdullah’s ranch here on Friday to make another appeal for an increase
>in oil production that might give American consumers some relief at
>the gasoline pump. The Saudis responded by announcing they had decided
>a week ago on a modest increase of 300,000 barrels a day.
>
>The White House said the increase would not be enough to lower
>gasoline prices, which are nearing $4 a gallon, and industry analysts
>called it mostly symbolic.
> * w w w .nytimes . com /2008/05/17/world/middleeast/17prexy.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Don't cum all over yourself rejoicing.

Re: OT - Jimmy Carter - worst president ever

On Fri, 16 May 2008 18:31:04 -0700 (PDT), TPS
<theron@u.washington.edu> wrote:

>
>>
>> >> Talk is cheap, he didn't get it done, period. Worst President ever.
>> >You're right.  Bush talking to Saudi Arabia is pretty cheap.
>>
>> Sure, unless the Saudis agree to pump more oil, then it's something,
>> unlike Carter, who was a total failure and never had an approval
>> rating as high (or *any* President for that matter) as Bush has had.
>
>so much for that idea.
>
>May 17, 2008
>Saudis Rebuff Bush, Politely, on Pumping More Oil
>
>By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG and JAD MOUAWAD
>RIYADH, Saudi Arabia — President Bush used a private visit to King
>Abdullah’s ranch here on Friday to make another appeal for an increase
>in oil production that might give American consumers some relief at
>the gasoline pump. The Saudis responded by announcing they had decided
>a week ago on a modest increase of 300,000 barrels a day.
>
>The White House said the increase would not be enough to lower
>gasoline prices, which are nearing $4 a gallon, and industry analysts
>called it mostly symbolic.
> * w w w .nytimes . com /2008/05/17/world/middleeast/17prexy.html? r=1&hp&oref=slogin



...but hey, like the libs say, at least he "tried".

Re: OT - Jimmy Carter - energy visionary

Didn't excactly work, did it? We now import more oil, both in
absolute and percentage terms than we ever have. I like Carter too.
But REAL solutions have to produce REAL energy, not just feel good
amounts. When we start running low on oil, we better have some
alternatives. So far about all we have is electricity and the
batteries we have dont work well enough to power a car very far down
the road. We have some more time. Let's hope we get it worked out or
things are going to get bad.

Re: OT - Jimmy Carter - energy visionary


"Doug" <anothername@access4less . net > wrote in message
news:7280f7db-84ed-4bbc-995f-ca09276d81de@p25g2000pri.googlegroups . com ...
> Didn't excactly work, did it? We now import more oil, both in
> absolute and percentage terms than we ever have. I like Carter too.
> But REAL solutions have to produce REAL energy, not just feel good
> amounts. When we start running low on oil, we better have some
> alternatives. So far about all we have is electricity and the
> batteries we have dont work well enough to power a car very far down
> the road. We have some more time. Let's hope we get it worked out or
> things are going to get bad.

I saw some author on CSPAN years ago talking about
how we are in the depletion mode of the oil supply.
Sorry, I don't remember the author or the name of the
book, but I remember most of what he stated.

He said that since the US and China are burning up the oil
at such a rapid rate during this state of depletion, that
alternative technology will simply not be in place to easily
shift to when the oil runs completely out.

He went on to say that traveling long distances will cease
to exist for the most part since energy will be so bleedin'
expensive. Corporate farms in California will cease to
exist because it will become cost inefficient to transport
its produce all around the country. In fact, more and more
people will get into gardening, and that there will
be so many people defying city zoning laws by "illegally"
working in their homes or property that the city authorities
won't be able to do a damned thing about it.

You can also expect more people riding bicycles or horse-
drawn carriages and people simply walking here and there.

Does this mean I will kneejerk and get rid of my gasoline
powered vehicle? Does this mean I will dump all of my
electrical and electronic gear? No! But even if this is a
bogus threat, I suggest that everyone invest in buying
as many hand tools as one can accumulate *anyway*.
After all, you never know, but it's not unlikely that one
day you will have to repair or build something for someone
in exchange for food.

God help us all!

Re: OT - Jimmy Carter - energy visionary



Mr Soul wrote:
>
> From Carter's 7/15/79 "Crisis of Confidence" speech:
>
> "... We know the strength of America. We are strong. We can regain our
> unity. We can regain our confidence. We are the heirs of generations
> who survived threats much more powerful and awesome than those that
> challenge us now. Our fathers and mothers were strong men and women
> who shaped a new society during the Great Depression, who fought world
> wars, and who carved out a new charter of peace for the world.
>
> ...
>
> All the traditions of our past, all the lessons of our heritage, all
> the promises of our future point to another path, the path of common
> purpose and the restoration of American values. That path leads to
> true freedom for our nation and ourselves. We can take the first steps
> down that path as we begin to solve our energy problem.
>
> Energy will be the immediate test of our ability to unite this nation,
> and it can also be the standard around which we rally. On the
> battlefield of energy we can win for our nation a new confidence, and
> we can seize control again of our common destiny.
>
> In little more than two decades we've gone from a position of energy
> independence to one in which almost half the oil we use comes from
> foreign countries, at prices that are going through the roof. Our
> excessive dependence on OPEC has already taken a tremendous toll on
> our economy and our people...
>
> What I have to say to you now about energy is simple and vitally
> important.
>
> Point one: I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of
> the United States. Beginning this moment, this nation will never use
> more foreign oil than we did in 1977 -- never...I am tonight setting
> the further goal of cutting our dependence on foreign oil by one-half
> by the end of the next decade -- a saving of over 4-1/2 million
> barrels of imported oil per day.
>
> Point two: To ensure that we meet these targets, I will use my
> presidential authority to set import quotas. I'm announcing tonight
> that for 1979 and 1980, I will forbid the entry into this country of
> one drop of foreign oil more than these goals allow...
>
> Point three: To give us energy security, I am asking for the most
> massive peacetime commitment of funds and resources in our nation's
> history to develop America's own alternative sources of fuel -- from
> coal, from oil shale, from plant products for gasohol, from
> unconventional gas, from the sun.
>
> I propose the creation of an energy security corporation to lead this
> effort to replace 2-1/2 million barrels of imported oil per day by
> 1990. The corporation I will issue up to $5 billion in energy bonds,
> and I especially want them to be in small denominations so that
> average Americans can invest directly in America's energy security.
>
> Just as a similar synthetic rubber corporation helped us win World War
> II, so will we mobilize American determination and ability to win the
> energy war. Moreover, I will soon submit legislation to Congress
> calling for the creation of this nation's first solar bank, which will
> help us achieve the crucial goal of 20 percent of our energy coming
> from solar power by the year 2000.
>
> These efforts will cost money, a lot of money, and that is why
> Congress must enact the windfall profits tax without delay. It will be
> money well spent. Unlike the billions of dollars that we ship to
> foreign countries to pay for foreign oil, these funds will be paid by
> Americans to Americans. These funds will go to fight, not to increase,
> inflation and unemployment.
>
> Point four: I'm asking Congress to mandate, to require as a matter of
> law, that our nation's utility companies cut their massive use of oil
> by 50 percent within the next decade and switch to other fuels,
> especially coal, our most abundant energy source.
>
> Point six: I'm proposing a bold conservation program to involve every
> state, county, and city and every average American in our energy
> battle. This effort will permit you to build conservation into your
> homes and your lives at a cost you can afford.
>
> You know we can do it. We have the natural resources. We have more oil
> in our shale alone than several Saudi Arabias. We have more coal than
> any nation on Earth. We have the world's highest level of technology.
> We have the most skilled work force, with innovative genius, and I
> firmly believe that we have the national will to win this war.
>
> I do not promise you that this struggle for freedom will be easy. I do
> not promise a quick way out of our nation's problems, when the truth
> is that the only way out is an all-out effort. What I do promise you
> is that I will lead our fight, and I will enforce fairness in our
> struggle, and I will ensure honesty. And above all, I will act. We can
> manage the short-term shortages more effectively and we will, but
> there are no short-term solutions to our long-range problems. There is
> simply no way to avoid sacrifice. .."
>
> Too bad we hadn't listened to Jimmy Carter.
>
> Mr Soul

Yet, another reason for mandatory drug testing for anyone holding public office.




Regards,

Rich Koerner,
Time Electronics.
* w w w .timeelect . com

Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering,
Music & Studio Production,
Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers

Re: OT - Jimmy Carter - energy visionary

In article <482C0147.FF88BDC6@timeelect . com >,
Rich Koerner <richk@timeelect . com > wrote:
>
>
>Mr Soul wrote:
>>
>> From Carter's 7/15/79 "Crisis of Confidence" speech:
>>
>> "... We know the strength of America. We are strong. We can regain our
>> unity. We can regain our confidence. We are the heirs of generations
>> who survived threats much more powerful and awesome than those that
>> challenge us now. Our fathers and mothers were strong men and women
>> who shaped a new society during the Great Depression, who fought world
>> wars, and who carved out a new charter of peace for the world.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> All the traditions of our past, all the lessons of our heritage, all
>> the promises of our future point to another path, the path of common
>> purpose and the restoration of American values. That path leads to
>> true freedom for our nation and ourselves. We can take the first steps
>> down that path as we begin to solve our energy problem.
>>
>> Energy will be the immediate test of our ability to unite this nation,
>> and it can also be the standard around which we rally. On the
>> battlefield of energy we can win for our nation a new confidence, and
>> we can seize control again of our common destiny.
>>
>> In little more than two decades we've gone from a position of energy
>> independence to one in which almost half the oil we use comes from
>> foreign countries, at prices that are going through the roof. Our
>> excessive dependence on OPEC has already taken a tremendous toll on
>> our economy and our people...
>>
>> What I have to say to you now about energy is simple and vitally
>> important.
>>
>> Point one: I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of
>> the United States. Beginning this moment, this nation will never use
>> more foreign oil than we did in 1977 -- never...I am tonight setting
>> the further goal of cutting our dependence on foreign oil by one-half
>> by the end of the next decade -- a saving of over 4-1/2 million
>> barrels of imported oil per day.
>>
>> Point two: To ensure that we meet these targets, I will use my
>> presidential authority to set import quotas. I'm announcing tonight
>> that for 1979 and 1980, I will forbid the entry into this country of
>> one drop of foreign oil more than these goals allow...
>>
>> Point three: To give us energy security, I am asking for the most
>> massive peacetime commitment of funds and resources in our nation's
>> history to develop America's own alternative sources of fuel -- from
>> coal, from oil shale, from plant products for gasohol, from
>> unconventional gas, from the sun.
>>
>> I propose the creation of an energy security corporation to lead this
>> effort to replace 2-1/2 million barrels of imported oil per day by
>> 1990. The corporation I will issue up to $5 billion in energy bonds,
>> and I especially want them to be in small denominations so that
>> average Americans can invest directly in America's energy security.
>>
>> Just as a similar synthetic rubber corporation helped us win World War
>> II, so will we mobilize American determination and ability to win the
>> energy war. Moreover, I will soon submit legislation to Congress
>> calling for the creation of this nation's first solar bank, which will
>> help us achieve the crucial goal of 20 percent of our energy coming
>> from solar power by the year 2000.
>>
>> These efforts will cost money, a lot of money, and that is why
>> Congress must enact the windfall profits tax without delay. It will be
>> money well spent. Unlike the billions of dollars that we ship to
>> foreign countries to pay for foreign oil, these funds will be paid by
>> Americans to Americans. These funds will go to fight, not to increase,
>> inflation and unemployment.
>>
>> Point four: I'm asking Congress to mandate, to require as a matter of
>> law, that our nation's utility companies cut their massive use of oil
>> by 50 percent within the next decade and switch to other fuels,
>> especially coal, our most abundant energy source.
>>
>> Point six: I'm proposing a bold conservation program to involve every
>> state, county, and city and every average American in our energy
>> battle. This effort will permit you to build conservation into your
>> homes and your lives at a cost you can afford.
>>
>> You know we can do it. We have the natural resources. We have more oil
>> in our shale alone than several Saudi Arabias. We have more coal than
>> any nation on Earth. We have the world's highest level of technology.
>> We have the most skilled work force, with innovative genius, and I
>> firmly believe that we have the national will to win this war.
>>
>> I do not promise you that this struggle for freedom will be easy. I do
>> not promise a quick way out of our nation's problems, when the truth
>> is that the only way out is an all-out effort. What I do promise you
>> is that I will lead our fight, and I will enforce fairness in our
>> struggle, and I will ensure honesty. And above all, I will act. We can
>> manage the short-term shortages more effectively and we will, but
>> there are no short-term solutions to our long-range problems. There is
>> simply no way to avoid sacrifice. .."
>>
>> Too bad we hadn't listened to Jimmy Carter.
>>
>> Mr Soul
>
>Yet, another reason for mandatory drug testing for anyone holding public office.
>

or voting.

Re: OT - Jimmy Carter - energy visionary


"Claude V. Lucas" <claudel@sonic . net > wrote in message
news:482c34ea$0$34521$742ec2ed@news.sonic . net ...
> In article <482C0147.FF88BDC6@timeelect . com >,
> Rich Koerner <richk@timeelect . com > wrote:
>>
>>
>>Mr Soul wrote:
>>>
>>> From Carter's 7/15/79 "Crisis of Confidence" speech:
>>>
>>> "... We know the strength of America. We are strong. We can regain our
>>> unity. We can regain our confidence. We are the heirs of generations
>>> who survived threats much more powerful and awesome than those that
>>> challenge us now. Our fathers and mothers were strong men and women
>>> who shaped a new society during the Great Depression, who fought world
>>> wars, and who carved out a new charter of peace for the world.
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> All the traditions of our past, all the lessons of our heritage, all
>>> the promises of our future point to another path, the path of common
>>> purpose and the restoration of American values. That path leads to
>>> true freedom for our nation and ourselves. We can take the first steps
>>> down that path as we begin to solve our energy problem.
>>>
>>> Energy will be the immediate test of our ability to unite this nation,
>>> and it can also be the standard around which we rally. On the
>>> battlefield of energy we can win for our nation a new confidence, and
>>> we can seize control again of our common destiny.
>>>
>>> In little more than two decades we've gone from a position of energy
>>> independence to one in which almost half the oil we use comes from
>>> foreign countries, at prices that are going through the roof. Our
>>> excessive dependence on OPEC has already taken a tremendous toll on
>>> our economy and our people...
>>>
>>> What I have to say to you now about energy is simple and vitally
>>> important.
>>>
>>> Point one: I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of
>>> the United States. Beginning this moment, this nation will never use
>>> more foreign oil than we did in 1977 -- never...I am tonight setting
>>> the further goal of cutting our dependence on foreign oil by one-half
>>> by the end of the next decade -- a saving of over 4-1/2 million
>>> barrels of imported oil per day.
>>>
>>> Point two: To ensure that we meet these targets, I will use my
>>> presidential authority to set import quotas. I'm announcing tonight
>>> that for 1979 and 1980, I will forbid the entry into this country of
>>> one drop of foreign oil more than these goals allow...
>>>
>>> Point three: To give us energy security, I am asking for the most
>>> massive peacetime commitment of funds and resources in our nation's
>>> history to develop America's own alternative sources of fuel -- from
>>> coal, from oil shale, from plant products for gasohol, from
>>> unconventional gas, from the sun.
>>>
>>> I propose the creation of an energy security corporation to lead this
>>> effort to replace 2-1/2 million barrels of imported oil per day by
>>> 1990. The corporation I will issue up to $5 billion in energy bonds,
>>> and I especially want them to be in small denominations so that
>>> average Americans can invest directly in America's energy security.
>>>
>>> Just as a similar synthetic rubber corporation helped us win World War
>>> II, so will we mobilize American determination and ability to win the
>>> energy war. Moreover, I will soon submit legislation to Congress
>>> calling for the creation of this nation's first solar bank, which will
>>> help us achieve the crucial goal of 20 percent of our energy coming
>>> from solar power by the year 2000.
>>>
>>> These efforts will cost money, a lot of money, and that is why
>>> Congress must enact the windfall profits tax without delay. It will be
>>> money well spent. Unlike the billions of dollars that we ship to
>>> foreign countries to pay for foreign oil, these funds will be paid by
>>> Americans to Americans. These funds will go to fight, not to increase,
>>> inflation and unemployment.
>>>
>>> Point four: I'm asking Congress to mandate, to require as a matter of
>>> law, that our nation's utility companies cut their massive use of oil
>>> by 50 percent within the next decade and switch to other fuels,
>>> especially coal, our most abundant energy source.
>>>
>>> Point six: I'm proposing a bold conservation program to involve every
>>> state, county, and city and every average American in our energy
>>> battle. This effort will permit you to build conservation into your
>>> homes and your lives at a cost you can afford.
>>>
>>> You know we can do it. We have the natural resources. We have more oil
>>> in our shale alone than several Saudi Arabias. We have more coal than
>>> any nation on Earth. We have the world's highest level of technology.
>>> We have the most skilled work force, with innovative genius, and I
>>> firmly believe that we have the national will to win this war.
>>>
>>> I do not promise you that this struggle for freedom will be easy. I do
>>> not promise a quick way out of our nation's problems, when the truth
>>> is that the only way out is an all-out effort. What I do promise you
>>> is that I will lead our fight, and I will enforce fairness in our
>>> struggle, and I will ensure honesty. And above all, I will act. We can
>>> manage the short-term shortages more effectively and we will, but
>>> there are no short-term solutions to our long-range problems. There is
>>> simply no way to avoid sacrifice. .."
>>>
>>> Too bad we hadn't listened to Jimmy Carter.
>>>
>>> Mr Soul
>>
>>Yet, another reason for mandatory drug testing for anyone holding public
>>office.
>>
>
> or voting.

IQ test for voting AND for a driving license.

Re: OT - Jimmy Carter - energy visionary

In article <A8ZWj.46097$3v1.4791@bignews3.bellsouth . net >,
Elvis Kabong <ampscience@tuneland . com > wrote:
>
>"Claude V. Lucas" <claudel@sonic . net > wrote in message
>news:482c34ea$0$34521$742ec2ed@news.sonic . net ...
>> In article <482C0147.FF88BDC6@timeelect . com >,
>> Rich Koerner <richk@timeelect . com > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Mr Soul wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From Carter's 7/15/79 "Crisis of Confidence" speech:
>>>>
>>>> "... We know the strength of America. We are strong. We can regain our
>>>> unity. We can regain our confidence. We are the heirs of generations
>>>> who survived threats much more powerful and awesome than those that
>>>> challenge us now. Our fathers and mothers were strong men and women
>>>> who shaped a new society during the Great Depression, who fought world
>>>> wars, and who carved out a new charter of peace for the world.
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> All the traditions of our past, all the lessons of our heritage, all
>>>> the promises of our future point to another path, the path of common
>>>> purpose and the restoration of American values. That path leads to
>>>> true freedom for our nation and ourselves. We can take the first steps
>>>> down that path as we begin to solve our energy problem.
>>>>
>>>> Energy will be the immediate test of our ability to unite this nation,
>>>> and it can also be the standard around which we rally. On the
>>>> battlefield of energy we can win for our nation a new confidence, and
>>>> we can seize control again of our common destiny.
>>>>
>>>> In little more than two decades we've gone from a position of energy
>>>> independence to one in which almost half the oil we use comes from
>>>> foreign countries, at prices that are going through the roof. Our
>>>> excessive dependence on OPEC has already taken a tremendous toll on
>>>> our economy and our people...
>>>>
>>>> What I have to say to you now about energy is simple and vitally
>>>> important.
>>>>
>>>> Point one: I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of
>>>> the United States. Beginning this moment, this nation will never use
>>>> more foreign oil than we did in 1977 -- never...I am tonight setting
>>>> the further goal of cutting our dependence on foreign oil by one-half
>>>> by the end of the next decade -- a saving of over 4-1/2 million
>>>> barrels of imported oil per day.
>>>>
>>>> Point two: To ensure that we meet these targets, I will use my
>>>> presidential authority to set import quotas. I'm announcing tonight
>>>> that for 1979 and 1980, I will forbid the entry into this country of
>>>> one drop of foreign oil more than these goals allow...
>>>>
>>>> Point three: To give us energy security, I am asking for the most
>>>> massive peacetime commitment of funds and resources in our nation's
>>>> history to develop America's own alternative sources of fuel -- from
>>>> coal, from oil shale, from plant products for gasohol, from
>>>> unconventional gas, from the sun.
>>>>
>>>> I propose the creation of an energy security corporation to lead this
>>>> effort to replace 2-1/2 million barrels of imported oil per day by
>>>> 1990. The corporation I will issue up to $5 billion in energy bonds,
>>>> and I especially want them to be in small denominations so that
>>>> average Americans can invest directly in America's energy security.
>>>>
>>>> Just as a similar synthetic rubber corporation helped us win World War
>>>> II, so will we mobilize American determination and ability to win the
>>>> energy war. Moreover, I will soon submit legislation to Congress
>>>> calling for the creation of this nation's first solar bank, which will
>>>> help us achieve the crucial goal of 20 percent of our energy coming
>>>> from solar power by the year 2000.
>>>>
>>>> These efforts will cost money, a lot of money, and that is why
>>>> Congress must enact the windfall profits tax without delay. It will be
>>>> money well spent. Unlike the billions of dollars that we ship to
>>>> foreign countries to pay for foreign oil, these funds will be paid by
>>>> Americans to Americans. These funds will go to fight, not to increase,
>>>> inflation and unemployment.
>>>>
>>>> Point four: I'm asking Congress to mandate, to require as a matter of
>>>> law, that our nation's utility companies cut their massive use of oil
>>>> by 50 percent within the next decade and switch to other fuels,
>>>> especially coal, our most abundant energy source.
>>>>
>>>> Point six: I'm proposing a bold conservation program to involve every
>>>> state, county, and city and every average American in our energy
>>>> battle. This effort will permit you to build conservation into your
>>>> homes and your lives at a cost you can afford.
>>>>
>>>> You know we can do it. We have the natural resources. We have more oil
>>>> in our shale alone than several Saudi Arabias. We have more coal than
>>>> any nation on Earth. We have the world's highest level of technology.
>>>> We have the most skilled work force, with innovative genius, and I
>>>> firmly believe that we have the national will to win this war.
>>>>
>>>> I do not promise you that this struggle for freedom will be easy. I do
>>>> not promise a quick way out of our nation's problems, when the truth
>>>> is that the only way out is an all-out effort. What I do promise you
>>>> is that I will lead our fight, and I will enforce fairness in our
>>>> struggle, and I will ensure honesty. And above all, I will act. We can
>>>> manage the short-term shortages more effectively and we will, but
>>>> there are no short-term solutions to our long-range problems. There is
>>>> simply no way to avoid sacrifice. .."
>>>>
>>>> Too bad we hadn't listened to Jimmy Carter.
>>>>
>>>> Mr Soul
>>>
>>>Yet, another reason for mandatory drug testing for anyone holding public
>>>office.
>>>
>>
>> or voting.
>
>IQ test for voting AND for a driving license.
>
>

I've thought for a while now that some sort of public service,
ala Starship Troopers before being allowed to have a say in
public affairs wouldn't be a bad idea.