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Re: Germanium
On 09-May-08 18:56:31, MG said
>Hi
>Suddenly, there is a lot of Buzz(!) about Germanium transistors in
>boutique effects etc. I have a couple of 70's effects and an amp that
>contains these and no-way do they sound any better than
>silicone/modern equivalents. Why are people going mad for them all of
>a sudden??
>Am I missing something?
My understanding is that beneath the hype and marketing, Germanium and
Silicon transistors respond differently, and possibly some of the
properties that made Germanium obselete are actually strengths when used
as a tone booster.
I gather that Germanium transistors are pretty hit and miss and most(?) do
not respond correctly for use in a tone booster and so must be discarded.
This and the fact that they tend to be wired by hand and properly checked
is probably why people like Boss don't make them.
As for what sounds better, ear of the beholder and all that. :)
All the best,
Angus Manwaring. (for e-mail remove ANTISPEM)
I need your memories for the Amiga Games Database: A collection of Amiga
Game reviews by Amiga players http :// www .angusm.demon.co.uk/AGDB/AGDB.html
On 09-May-08 18:56:31, MG said
>Hi
>Suddenly, there is a lot of Buzz(!) about Germanium transistors in
>boutique effects etc. I have a couple of 70's effects and an amp that
>contains these and no-way do they sound any better than
>silicone/modern equivalents. Why are people going mad for them all of
>a sudden??
>Am I missing something?
My understanding is that beneath the hype and marketing, Germanium and
Silicon transistors respond differently, and possibly some of the
properties that made Germanium obselete are actually strengths when used
as a tone booster.
I gather that Germanium transistors are pretty hit and miss and most(?) do
not respond correctly for use in a tone booster and so must be discarded.
This and the fact that they tend to be wired by hand and properly checked
is probably why people like Boss don't make them.
As for what sounds better, ear of the beholder and all that. :)
All the best,
Angus Manwaring. (for e-mail remove ANTISPEM)
I need your memories for the Amiga Games Database: A collection of Amiga
Game reviews by Amiga players http :// www .angusm.demon.co.uk/AGDB/AGDB.html
Re: Germanium
Angus Manwaring wrote:
> My understanding is that beneath the hype and marketing, Germanium and
> Silicon transistors respond differently
Sorry, totally wrong. They behave in exactly the same way. The basic
semiconductor equations don't change with material.
However a belief like yours is what keeps the purveyors of germanium in
business. Along with a bizarre belief that 'old is best'.
Graham
Angus Manwaring wrote:
> My understanding is that beneath the hype and marketing, Germanium and
> Silicon transistors respond differently
Sorry, totally wrong. They behave in exactly the same way. The basic
semiconductor equations don't change with material.
However a belief like yours is what keeps the purveyors of germanium in
business. Along with a bizarre belief that 'old is best'.
Graham
Re: Germanium
On 10-May-08 14:25:11, Eeyore said
>Angus Manwaring wrote:
>> My understanding is that beneath the hype and marketing, Germanium and
>> Silicon transistors respond differently
>Sorry, totally wrong. They behave in exactly the same way. The basic
>semiconductor equations don't change with material.
>However a belief like yours is what keeps the purveyors of germanium in
>business. Along with a bizarre belief that 'old is best'.
If you had read my post you would (presumably) have noticed I didn't
profess to know exactly what "the truth" on the subject is.
I can't level that accusation at you, and it seems like you've got a bit
of an issue on the subject of older kit. That's your problem, not mine.
All the best,
Angus Manwaring. (for e-mail remove ANTISPEM)
I need your memories for the Amiga Games Database: A collection of Amiga
Game reviews by Amiga players http :// www .angusm.demon.co.uk/AGDB/AGDB.html
On 10-May-08 14:25:11, Eeyore said
>Angus Manwaring wrote:
>> My understanding is that beneath the hype and marketing, Germanium and
>> Silicon transistors respond differently
>Sorry, totally wrong. They behave in exactly the same way. The basic
>semiconductor equations don't change with material.
>However a belief like yours is what keeps the purveyors of germanium in
>business. Along with a bizarre belief that 'old is best'.
If you had read my post you would (presumably) have noticed I didn't
profess to know exactly what "the truth" on the subject is.
I can't level that accusation at you, and it seems like you've got a bit
of an issue on the subject of older kit. That's your problem, not mine.
All the best,
Angus Manwaring. (for e-mail remove ANTISPEM)
I need your memories for the Amiga Games Database: A collection of Amiga
Game reviews by Amiga players http :// www .angusm.demon.co.uk/AGDB/AGDB.html
Re: Germanium
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail,com > wrote:
> Angus Manwaring wrote:
>
>> My understanding is that beneath the hype and marketing, Germanium
>> and Silicon transistors respond differently
>
> Sorry, totally wrong. They behave in exactly the same way. The basic
> semiconductor equations don't change with material.
Whoa! Apples/oranges!
The *equations* don't change, but the parameters that enter into the
equations (like electron and hole mobilities, diode ideality factors,
mobility dependence on electric field, reverse bias leakage current...)
sure do!
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail,com > wrote:
> Angus Manwaring wrote:
>
>> My understanding is that beneath the hype and marketing, Germanium
>> and Silicon transistors respond differently
>
> Sorry, totally wrong. They behave in exactly the same way. The basic
> semiconductor equations don't change with material.
Whoa! Apples/oranges!
The *equations* don't change, but the parameters that enter into the
equations (like electron and hole mobilities, diode ideality factors,
mobility dependence on electric field, reverse bias leakage current...)
sure do!
Re: Germanium
RichL wrote:
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail,com > wrote:
>
>>Angus Manwaring wrote:
>>
>>
>>>My understanding is that beneath the hype and marketing, Germanium
>>>and Silicon transistors respond differently
>>
>>Sorry, totally wrong. They behave in exactly the same way. The basic
>>semiconductor equations don't change with material.
>
>
> Whoa! Apples/oranges!
>
> The *equations* don't change, but the parameters that enter into the
> equations (like electron and hole mobilities, diode ideality factors,
> mobility dependence on electric field, reverse bias leakage current...)
> sure do!
Right. It's like saying all tubes sound the same because they all
have a vacuum in them. ;-)
jk
RichL wrote:
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail,com > wrote:
>
>>Angus Manwaring wrote:
>>
>>
>>>My understanding is that beneath the hype and marketing, Germanium
>>>and Silicon transistors respond differently
>>
>>Sorry, totally wrong. They behave in exactly the same way. The basic
>>semiconductor equations don't change with material.
>
>
> Whoa! Apples/oranges!
>
> The *equations* don't change, but the parameters that enter into the
> equations (like electron and hole mobilities, diode ideality factors,
> mobility dependence on electric field, reverse bias leakage current...)
> sure do!
Right. It's like saying all tubes sound the same because they all
have a vacuum in them. ;-)
jk
Re: Germanium
On May 9, 2:56 pm, 100550.3...@compuserve,com (MG) wrote:
> Hi
>
> Suddenly, there is a lot of Buzz(!) about Germanium transistors in
> boutique effects etc. I have a couple of 70's effects and an amp that
> contains these and no-way do they sound any better than
> silicone/modern equivalents. Why are people going mad for them all of
> a sudden??
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> MG
> UK
On Germ. transistors, Davis' and Lord Valve's replies are both worth a
fuck hole. One's based on excess and the other is punchy. Bullshitters
101. Not to say that there isn't a pack of nonsense (the "holy grail
x'istor types) associated with the generic topic, but there *is* a
sonic difference. Try a FF or a RM clone, etc., using silicon and,
bzzzzzzzzt, they suck. If you disagree, then you are also clueless.
On May 9, 2:56 pm, 100550.3...@compuserve,com (MG) wrote:
> Hi
>
> Suddenly, there is a lot of Buzz(!) about Germanium transistors in
> boutique effects etc. I have a couple of 70's effects and an amp that
> contains these and no-way do they sound any better than
> silicone/modern equivalents. Why are people going mad for them all of
> a sudden??
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> MG
> UK
On Germ. transistors, Davis' and Lord Valve's replies are both worth a
fuck hole. One's based on excess and the other is punchy. Bullshitters
101. Not to say that there isn't a pack of nonsense (the "holy grail
x'istor types) associated with the generic topic, but there *is* a
sonic difference. Try a FF or a RM clone, etc., using silicon and,
bzzzzzzzzt, they suck. If you disagree, then you are also clueless.
Re: Germanium
Premier Spigot wrote:
> On May 9, 2:56 pm, 100550.3...@compuserve,com (MG) wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Suddenly, there is a lot of Buzz(!) about Germanium transistors in
>> boutique effects etc. I have a couple of 70's effects and an amp that
>> contains these and no-way do they sound any better than
>> silicone/modern equivalents. Why are people going mad for them all of
>> a sudden??
>>
>> Am I missing something?
>>
>> MG
>> UK
>
> On Germ. transistors, Davis' and Lord Valve's replies are both worth a
> fuck hole. One's based on excess and the other is punchy. Bullshitters
> 101. Not to say that there isn't a pack of nonsense (the "holy grail
> x'istor types) associated with the generic topic, but there *is* a
> sonic difference. Try a FF or a RM clone, etc., using silicon and,
> bzzzzzzzzt, they suck. If you disagree, then you are also clueless.
Kerblammo! :-) mvm
Premier Spigot wrote:
> On May 9, 2:56 pm, 100550.3...@compuserve,com (MG) wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Suddenly, there is a lot of Buzz(!) about Germanium transistors in
>> boutique effects etc. I have a couple of 70's effects and an amp that
>> contains these and no-way do they sound any better than
>> silicone/modern equivalents. Why are people going mad for them all of
>> a sudden??
>>
>> Am I missing something?
>>
>> MG
>> UK
>
> On Germ. transistors, Davis' and Lord Valve's replies are both worth a
> fuck hole. One's based on excess and the other is punchy. Bullshitters
> 101. Not to say that there isn't a pack of nonsense (the "holy grail
> x'istor types) associated with the generic topic, but there *is* a
> sonic difference. Try a FF or a RM clone, etc., using silicon and,
> bzzzzzzzzt, they suck. If you disagree, then you are also clueless.
Kerblammo! :-) mvm
Re: Germanium
Premier Spigot wrote:
> On May 9, 2:56 pm, 100550.3...@compuserve,com (MG) wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Suddenly, there is a lot of Buzz(!) about Germanium transistors in
> > boutique effects etc. I have a couple of 70's effects and an amp that
> > contains these and no-way do they sound any better than
> > silicone/modern equivalents. Why are people going mad for them all of
> > a sudden??
> >
> > Am I missing something?
> >
> > MG
> > UK
>
> On Germ. transistors, Davis' and Lord Valve's replies are both worth a
> fuck hole. One's based on excess and the other is punchy. Bullshitters
> 101. Not to say that there isn't a pack of nonsense (the "holy grail
> x'istor types) associated with the generic topic, but there *is* a
> sonic difference. Try a FF or a RM clone, etc., using silicon and,
> bzzzzzzzzt, they suck. If you disagree, then you are also clueless.
Cornflakes + pee = Premier Spigot.
Like I said - a *serious* jones. Good luck with that...
Lord Valve
BaaaaarrrrrrAAAAAACCCCCCKKKKK!!! <Safety!>
Premier Spigot wrote:
> On May 9, 2:56 pm, 100550.3...@compuserve,com (MG) wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Suddenly, there is a lot of Buzz(!) about Germanium transistors in
> > boutique effects etc. I have a couple of 70's effects and an amp that
> > contains these and no-way do they sound any better than
> > silicone/modern equivalents. Why are people going mad for them all of
> > a sudden??
> >
> > Am I missing something?
> >
> > MG
> > UK
>
> On Germ. transistors, Davis' and Lord Valve's replies are both worth a
> fuck hole. One's based on excess and the other is punchy. Bullshitters
> 101. Not to say that there isn't a pack of nonsense (the "holy grail
> x'istor types) associated with the generic topic, but there *is* a
> sonic difference. Try a FF or a RM clone, etc., using silicon and,
> bzzzzzzzzt, they suck. If you disagree, then you are also clueless.
Cornflakes + pee = Premier Spigot.
Like I said - a *serious* jones. Good luck with that...
Lord Valve
BaaaaarrrrrrAAAAAACCCCCCKKKKK!!! <Safety!>
Re: Germanium
"Lord Valve" <detritus@ix,net com,com > wrote in message
news:4825A145.736D163A@ix,net com,com ...
> Premier Spigot wrote:
...
>> On Germ. transistors, Davis' and Lord Valve's replies are both worth a
>> fuck hole. One's based on excess and the other is punchy. Bullshitters
>> 101. Not to say that there isn't a pack of nonsense (the "holy grail
>> x'istor types) associated with the generic topic, but there *is* a
>> sonic difference. Try a FF or a RM clone, etc., using silicon and,
>> bzzzzzzzzt, they suck. If you disagree, then you are also clueless.
>
> Cornflakes + pee = Premier Spigot.
>
> Like I said - a *serious* jones. Good luck with that...
Even Elvie won't argue with Argie...
http :// www .geofex,com /Article_Folders/fuzzface/fffram.htm
The Final Word On The Subject... keen!
__
Steve
.
"Lord Valve" <detritus@ix,net com,com > wrote in message
news:4825A145.736D163A@ix,net com,com ...
> Premier Spigot wrote:
...
>> On Germ. transistors, Davis' and Lord Valve's replies are both worth a
>> fuck hole. One's based on excess and the other is punchy. Bullshitters
>> 101. Not to say that there isn't a pack of nonsense (the "holy grail
>> x'istor types) associated with the generic topic, but there *is* a
>> sonic difference. Try a FF or a RM clone, etc., using silicon and,
>> bzzzzzzzzt, they suck. If you disagree, then you are also clueless.
>
> Cornflakes + pee = Premier Spigot.
>
> Like I said - a *serious* jones. Good luck with that...
Even Elvie won't argue with Argie...
http :// www .geofex,com /Article_Folders/fuzzface/fffram.htm
The Final Word On The Subject... keen!
__
Steve
.
Re: Germanium
Stephen Cowell wrote:
> "Lord Valve" <detritus@ix,net com,com > wrote in message
> news:4825A145.736D163A@ix,net com,com ...
> > Premier Spigot wrote:
>
> ...
>
> >> On Germ. transistors, Davis' and Lord Valve's replies are both worth a
> >> fuck hole. One's based on excess and the other is punchy. Bullshitters
> >> 101. Not to say that there isn't a pack of nonsense (the "holy grail
> >> x'istor types) associated with the generic topic, but there *is* a
> >> sonic difference. Try a FF or a RM clone, etc., using silicon and,
> >> bzzzzzzzzt, they suck. If you disagree, then you are also clueless.
> >
> > Cornflakes + pee = Premier Spigot.
> >
> > Like I said - a *serious* jones. Good luck with that...
>
> Even Elvie won't argue with Argie...
>
> http :// www .geofex,com /Article_Folders/fuzzface/fffram.htm
>
> The Final Word On The Subject... keen!
> __
> Steve
> .
I wasn't arguing with anybody.
I was just takin' a minor shot at Howie, who had (probably still has)
a picture of himself gripping a guitar in a rather awkward fashion
in front of a collection of early 70s blacklight posters; he looked
like he'd just smoked the entire evidence room at the local
precinct station.
Lord Valve
Founder, HARM (Heavily Armed Rightwing Maniacs)
Stephen Cowell wrote:
> "Lord Valve" <detritus@ix,net com,com > wrote in message
> news:4825A145.736D163A@ix,net com,com ...
> > Premier Spigot wrote:
>
> ...
>
> >> On Germ. transistors, Davis' and Lord Valve's replies are both worth a
> >> fuck hole. One's based on excess and the other is punchy. Bullshitters
> >> 101. Not to say that there isn't a pack of nonsense (the "holy grail
> >> x'istor types) associated with the generic topic, but there *is* a
> >> sonic difference. Try a FF or a RM clone, etc., using silicon and,
> >> bzzzzzzzzt, they suck. If you disagree, then you are also clueless.
> >
> > Cornflakes + pee = Premier Spigot.
> >
> > Like I said - a *serious* jones. Good luck with that...
>
> Even Elvie won't argue with Argie...
>
> http :// www .geofex,com /Article_Folders/fuzzface/fffram.htm
>
> The Final Word On The Subject... keen!
> __
> Steve
> .
I wasn't arguing with anybody.
I was just takin' a minor shot at Howie, who had (probably still has)
a picture of himself gripping a guitar in a rather awkward fashion
in front of a collection of early 70s blacklight posters; he looked
like he'd just smoked the entire evidence room at the local
precinct station.
Lord Valve
Founder, HARM (Heavily Armed Rightwing Maniacs)
Re: Germanium
Lord Valve wrote:
> Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> > "Lord Valve" <detritus@ix,net com,com > wrote in message
> > news:4825A145.736D163A@ix,net com,com ...
> > > Premier Spigot wrote:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > >> On Germ. transistors, Davis' and Lord Valve's replies are both worth a
> > >> fuck hole. One's based on excess and the other is punchy. Bullshitters
> > >> 101. Not to say that there isn't a pack of nonsense (the "holy grail
> > >> x'istor types) associated with the generic topic, but there *is* a
> > >> sonic difference. Try a FF or a RM clone, etc., using silicon and,
> > >> bzzzzzzzzt, they suck. If you disagree, then you are also clueless.
> > >
> > > Cornflakes + pee = Premier Spigot.
> > >
> > > Like I said - a *serious* jones. Good luck with that...
> >
> > Even Elvie won't argue with Argie...
> >
> > http :// www .geofex,com /Article_Folders/fuzzface/fffram.htm
> >
> > The Final Word On The Subject... keen!
> > __
> > Steve
> > .
>
> I wasn't arguing with anybody.
>
> I was just takin' a minor shot at Howie, who had (probably still has)
> a picture of himself gripping a guitar in a rather awkward fashion
> in front of a collection of early 70s blacklight posters; he looked
> like he'd just smoked the entire evidence room at the local
> precinct station.
>
> Lord Valve
> Founder, HARM (Heavily Armed Rightwing Maniacs)
It's still there! Check it out:
http :// howard.davis2.home.att,net /
Priceless!
Lord Valve
(etc.)
Lord Valve wrote:
> Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> > "Lord Valve" <detritus@ix,net com,com > wrote in message
> > news:4825A145.736D163A@ix,net com,com ...
> > > Premier Spigot wrote:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > >> On Germ. transistors, Davis' and Lord Valve's replies are both worth a
> > >> fuck hole. One's based on excess and the other is punchy. Bullshitters
> > >> 101. Not to say that there isn't a pack of nonsense (the "holy grail
> > >> x'istor types) associated with the generic topic, but there *is* a
> > >> sonic difference. Try a FF or a RM clone, etc., using silicon and,
> > >> bzzzzzzzzt, they suck. If you disagree, then you are also clueless.
> > >
> > > Cornflakes + pee = Premier Spigot.
> > >
> > > Like I said - a *serious* jones. Good luck with that...
> >
> > Even Elvie won't argue with Argie...
> >
> > http :// www .geofex,com /Article_Folders/fuzzface/fffram.htm
> >
> > The Final Word On The Subject... keen!
> > __
> > Steve
> > .
>
> I wasn't arguing with anybody.
>
> I was just takin' a minor shot at Howie, who had (probably still has)
> a picture of himself gripping a guitar in a rather awkward fashion
> in front of a collection of early 70s blacklight posters; he looked
> like he'd just smoked the entire evidence room at the local
> precinct station.
>
> Lord Valve
> Founder, HARM (Heavily Armed Rightwing Maniacs)
It's still there! Check it out:
http :// howard.davis2.home.att,net /
Priceless!
Lord Valve
(etc.)
Re: Germanium
On Sat, 10 May 2008 07:58:02 -0600, Lord Valve
<detritus@ix,net com,com > did courageously avow:
>Lord Valve wrote:
>
>> Stephen Cowell wrote:
>>
>> > "Lord Valve" <detritus@ix,net com,com > wrote in message
>> > news:4825A145.736D163A@ix,net com,com ...
>> > > Premier Spigot wrote:
>> >
>> > ...
>> >
>> > >> On Germ. transistors, Davis' and Lord Valve's replies are both worth a
>> > >> fuck hole. One's based on excess and the other is punchy. Bullshitters
>> > >> 101. Not to say that there isn't a pack of nonsense (the "holy grail
>> > >> x'istor types) associated with the generic topic, but there *is* a
>> > >> sonic difference. Try a FF or a RM clone, etc., using silicon and,
>> > >> bzzzzzzzzt, they suck. If you disagree, then you are also clueless.
>> > >
>> > > Cornflakes + pee = Premier Spigot.
>> > >
>> > > Like I said - a *serious* jones. Good luck with that...
>> >
>> > Even Elvie won't argue with Argie...
>> >
>> > http :// www .geofex,com /Article_Folders/fuzzface/fffram.htm
>> >
>> > The Final Word On The Subject... keen!
>> > __
>> > Steve
>> > .
>>
>> I wasn't arguing with anybody.
>>
>> I was just takin' a minor shot at Howie, who had (probably still has)
>> a picture of himself gripping a guitar in a rather awkward fashion
>> in front of a collection of early 70s blacklight posters; he looked
>> like he'd just smoked the entire evidence room at the local
>> precinct station.
>>
>> Lord Valve
>> Founder, HARM (Heavily Armed Rightwing Maniacs)
>
>It's still there! Check it out:
>
> http :// howard.davis2.home.att,net /
>
>Priceless!
>
>
My question is 'who is holding who up in that picture'. Hard to tell
with the expression on that space cowboy's face.
>
>
--
Ken Wilson
http :// www .myspace,com /bcislander
On Sat, 10 May 2008 07:58:02 -0600, Lord Valve
<detritus@ix,net com,com > did courageously avow:
>Lord Valve wrote:
>
>> Stephen Cowell wrote:
>>
>> > "Lord Valve" <detritus@ix,net com,com > wrote in message
>> > news:4825A145.736D163A@ix,net com,com ...
>> > > Premier Spigot wrote:
>> >
>> > ...
>> >
>> > >> On Germ. transistors, Davis' and Lord Valve's replies are both worth a
>> > >> fuck hole. One's based on excess and the other is punchy. Bullshitters
>> > >> 101. Not to say that there isn't a pack of nonsense (the "holy grail
>> > >> x'istor types) associated with the generic topic, but there *is* a
>> > >> sonic difference. Try a FF or a RM clone, etc., using silicon and,
>> > >> bzzzzzzzzt, they suck. If you disagree, then you are also clueless.
>> > >
>> > > Cornflakes + pee = Premier Spigot.
>> > >
>> > > Like I said - a *serious* jones. Good luck with that...
>> >
>> > Even Elvie won't argue with Argie...
>> >
>> > http :// www .geofex,com /Article_Folders/fuzzface/fffram.htm
>> >
>> > The Final Word On The Subject... keen!
>> > __
>> > Steve
>> > .
>>
>> I wasn't arguing with anybody.
>>
>> I was just takin' a minor shot at Howie, who had (probably still has)
>> a picture of himself gripping a guitar in a rather awkward fashion
>> in front of a collection of early 70s blacklight posters; he looked
>> like he'd just smoked the entire evidence room at the local
>> precinct station.
>>
>> Lord Valve
>> Founder, HARM (Heavily Armed Rightwing Maniacs)
>
>It's still there! Check it out:
>
> http :// howard.davis2.home.att,net /
>
>Priceless!
>
>
My question is 'who is holding who up in that picture'. Hard to tell
with the expression on that space cowboy's face.
>
>
--
Ken Wilson
http :// www .myspace,com /bcislander
Re: Germanium
"Lord Valve" <detritus@ix,net com,com > wrote in message
news:4825A9EA.341F7C12@ix,net com,com ...
> Lord Valve wrote:
>
>> Stephen Cowell wrote:
>>
>> > "Lord Valve" <detritus@ix,net com,com > wrote in message
>> > news:4825A145.736D163A@ix,net com,com ...
>> > > Premier Spigot wrote:
>> >
>> > ...
>> >
>> > >> On Germ. transistors, Davis' and Lord Valve's replies are both worth
>> > >> a
>> > >> fuck hole. One's based on excess and the other is punchy.
>> > >> Bullshitters
>> > >> 101. Not to say that there isn't a pack of nonsense (the "holy grail
>> > >> x'istor types) associated with the generic topic, but there *is* a
>> > >> sonic difference. Try a FF or a RM clone, etc., using silicon and,
>> > >> bzzzzzzzzt, they suck. If you disagree, then you are also clueless.
>> > >
>> > > Cornflakes + pee = Premier Spigot.
>> > >
>> > > Like I said - a *serious* jones. Good luck with that...
>> >
>> > Even Elvie won't argue with Argie...
>> >
>> > http :// www .geofex,com /Article_Folders/fuzzface/fffram.htm
>> >
>> > The Final Word On The Subject... keen!
>> > __
>> > Steve
>> > .
>>
>> I wasn't arguing with anybody.
>>
>> I was just takin' a minor shot at Howie, who had (probably still has)
>> a picture of himself gripping a guitar in a rather awkward fashion
>> in front of a collection of early 70s blacklight posters; he looked
>> like he'd just smoked the entire evidence room at the local
>> precinct station.
>>
>> Lord Valve
>> Founder, HARM (Heavily Armed Rightwing Maniacs)
>
> It's still there! Check it out:
>
> http :// howard.davis2.home.att,net /
>
> Priceless!
>
>
> wet fart willy
> (pretentious beatnikker)
Doesn't make him less cooler than you.
In fact, no one is less cooler than you.
"Lord Valve" <detritus@ix,net com,com > wrote in message
news:4825A9EA.341F7C12@ix,net com,com ...
> Lord Valve wrote:
>
>> Stephen Cowell wrote:
>>
>> > "Lord Valve" <detritus@ix,net com,com > wrote in message
>> > news:4825A145.736D163A@ix,net com,com ...
>> > > Premier Spigot wrote:
>> >
>> > ...
>> >
>> > >> On Germ. transistors, Davis' and Lord Valve's replies are both worth
>> > >> a
>> > >> fuck hole. One's based on excess and the other is punchy.
>> > >> Bullshitters
>> > >> 101. Not to say that there isn't a pack of nonsense (the "holy grail
>> > >> x'istor types) associated with the generic topic, but there *is* a
>> > >> sonic difference. Try a FF or a RM clone, etc., using silicon and,
>> > >> bzzzzzzzzt, they suck. If you disagree, then you are also clueless.
>> > >
>> > > Cornflakes + pee = Premier Spigot.
>> > >
>> > > Like I said - a *serious* jones. Good luck with that...
>> >
>> > Even Elvie won't argue with Argie...
>> >
>> > http :// www .geofex,com /Article_Folders/fuzzface/fffram.htm
>> >
>> > The Final Word On The Subject... keen!
>> > __
>> > Steve
>> > .
>>
>> I wasn't arguing with anybody.
>>
>> I was just takin' a minor shot at Howie, who had (probably still has)
>> a picture of himself gripping a guitar in a rather awkward fashion
>> in front of a collection of early 70s blacklight posters; he looked
>> like he'd just smoked the entire evidence room at the local
>> precinct station.
>>
>> Lord Valve
>> Founder, HARM (Heavily Armed Rightwing Maniacs)
>
> It's still there! Check it out:
>
> http :// howard.davis2.home.att,net /
>
> Priceless!
>
>
> wet fart willy
> (pretentious beatnikker)
Doesn't make him less cooler than you.
In fact, no one is less cooler than you.
Re: Germanium
On May 10, 9:21 am, Lord Valve <detri...@ix,net com,com > wrote:
> Premier Spigot wrote:
> > On May 9, 2:56 pm, 100550.3...@compuserve,com (MG) wrote:
> > > Hi
>
> > > Suddenly, there is a lot of Buzz(!) about Germanium transistors in
> > > boutique effects etc. I have a couple of 70's effects and an amp that
> > > contains these and no-way do they sound any better than
> > > silicone/modern equivalents. Why are people going mad for them all of
> > > a sudden??
>
> > > Am I missing something?
>
> > > MG
> > > UK
>
> > On Germ. transistors, Davis' and Lord Valve's replies are both worth a
> > fuck hole. One's based on excess and the other is punchy. Bullshitters
> > 101. Not to say that there isn't a pack of nonsense (the "holy grail
> > x'istor types) associated with the generic topic, but there *is* a
> > sonic difference. Try a FF or a RM clone, etc., using silicon and,
> > bzzzzzzzzt, they suck. If you disagree, then you are also clueless.
>
> Cornflakes + pee = Premier Spigot.
>
> Like I said - a *serious* jones. Good luck with that...
>
> Lord Valve
> BaaaaarrrrrrAAAAAACCCCCCKKKKK!!! <Safety!>- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Pssst, hey chubby. You hype up vacuum tubes and sell them from a
dirty, cluttered, small and miserable dwelling. You didn't come up
with the cure for cancer, etc. You just *think* you've conquered so
much.
On May 10, 9:21 am, Lord Valve <detri...@ix,net com,com > wrote:
> Premier Spigot wrote:
> > On May 9, 2:56 pm, 100550.3...@compuserve,com (MG) wrote:
> > > Hi
>
> > > Suddenly, there is a lot of Buzz(!) about Germanium transistors in
> > > boutique effects etc. I have a couple of 70's effects and an amp that
> > > contains these and no-way do they sound any better than
> > > silicone/modern equivalents. Why are people going mad for them all of
> > > a sudden??
>
> > > Am I missing something?
>
> > > MG
> > > UK
>
> > On Germ. transistors, Davis' and Lord Valve's replies are both worth a
> > fuck hole. One's based on excess and the other is punchy. Bullshitters
> > 101. Not to say that there isn't a pack of nonsense (the "holy grail
> > x'istor types) associated with the generic topic, but there *is* a
> > sonic difference. Try a FF or a RM clone, etc., using silicon and,
> > bzzzzzzzzt, they suck. If you disagree, then you are also clueless.
>
> Cornflakes + pee = Premier Spigot.
>
> Like I said - a *serious* jones. Good luck with that...
>
> Lord Valve
> BaaaaarrrrrrAAAAAACCCCCCKKKKK!!! <Safety!>- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Pssst, hey chubby. You hype up vacuum tubes and sell them from a
dirty, cluttered, small and miserable dwelling. You didn't come up
with the cure for cancer, etc. You just *think* you've conquered so
much.
Re: Germanium
"Premier Spigot" <bighorseshoebob@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:f283c39d-90bc-4397-ad83-6cab691083f3@l64g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
On May 10, 9:21 am, Lord Valve <detri...@ix,net com,com > wrote:
> Premier Spigot wrote:
> > On May 9, 2:56 pm, 100550.3...@compuserve,com (MG) wrote:
> > > Hi
>
> > > Suddenly, there is a lot of Buzz(!) about Germanium transistors in
> > > boutique effects etc. I have a couple of 70's effects and an amp that
> > > contains these and no-way do they sound any better than
> > > silicone/modern equivalents. Why are people going mad for them all of
> > > a sudden??
>
> > > Am I missing something?
>
> > > MG
> > > UK
>
> > On Germ. transistors, Davis' and Lord Valve's replies are both worth a
> > fuck hole. One's based on excess and the other is punchy. Bullshitters
> > 101. Not to say that there isn't a pack of nonsense (the "holy grail
> > x'istor types) associated with the generic topic, but there *is* a
> > sonic difference. Try a FF or a RM clone, etc., using silicon and,
> > bzzzzzzzzt, they suck. If you disagree, then you are also clueless.
>
> Cornflakes + pee = Premier Spigot.
>
> Like I said - a *serious* jones. Good luck with that...
>
> Lord Valve
> BaaaaarrrrrrAAAAAACCCCCCKKKKK!!! <Safety!>- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Pssst, hey chubby. You hype up vacuum tubes and sell them from a
dirty, cluttered, small and miserable dwelling. You didn't come up
with the cure for cancer, etc. You just *think* you've conquered so
much.
So.... what are YOU offering for tubes and matching?
Are your prices better than LV's? Is your service?
BTW-who the fuck are you? At least LV doesnt hide behind
a bullshit handle, everyone knows who he is and where to find him,
and at least he's got the balls to post a REAL phone number and
a REAL e-mail and a REAL address to his shop.
You on the other hand, you are a spineless cunt.
"Premier Spigot" <bighorseshoebob@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:f283c39d-90bc-4397-ad83-6cab691083f3@l64g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
On May 10, 9:21 am, Lord Valve <detri...@ix,net com,com > wrote:
> Premier Spigot wrote:
> > On May 9, 2:56 pm, 100550.3...@compuserve,com (MG) wrote:
> > > Hi
>
> > > Suddenly, there is a lot of Buzz(!) about Germanium transistors in
> > > boutique effects etc. I have a couple of 70's effects and an amp that
> > > contains these and no-way do they sound any better than
> > > silicone/modern equivalents. Why are people going mad for them all of
> > > a sudden??
>
> > > Am I missing something?
>
> > > MG
> > > UK
>
> > On Germ. transistors, Davis' and Lord Valve's replies are both worth a
> > fuck hole. One's based on excess and the other is punchy. Bullshitters
> > 101. Not to say that there isn't a pack of nonsense (the "holy grail
> > x'istor types) associated with the generic topic, but there *is* a
> > sonic difference. Try a FF or a RM clone, etc., using silicon and,
> > bzzzzzzzzt, they suck. If you disagree, then you are also clueless.
>
> Cornflakes + pee = Premier Spigot.
>
> Like I said - a *serious* jones. Good luck with that...
>
> Lord Valve
> BaaaaarrrrrrAAAAAACCCCCCKKKKK!!! <Safety!>- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Pssst, hey chubby. You hype up vacuum tubes and sell them from a
dirty, cluttered, small and miserable dwelling. You didn't come up
with the cure for cancer, etc. You just *think* you've conquered so
much.
So.... what are YOU offering for tubes and matching?
Are your prices better than LV's? Is your service?
BTW-who the fuck are you? At least LV doesnt hide behind
a bullshit handle, everyone knows who he is and where to find him,
and at least he's got the balls to post a REAL phone number and
a REAL e-mail and a REAL address to his shop.
You on the other hand, you are a spineless cunt.
