Unicode Chord Charts in HTML

Unicode Chord Charts in HTML

With any luck at all, very few of you would have a use
for these except possibly to give to students, but if
you would catch any whopping errors in them I'd be much
obliged. If you find them useful yourself, that's OK
too. ;-)

http :// www .openguitar,com /charts.html

http :// www .openguitar,com /barchords.html

TIA daveA

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Re: Unicode Chord Charts in HTML

David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
> With any luck at all, very few of you would have a use
> for these except possibly to give to students, but if
> you would catch any whopping errors in them I'd be much
> obliged. If you find them useful yourself, that's OK
> too. ;-)
>
> http :// www .openguitar,com /charts.html
>
> http :// www .openguitar,com /barchords.html
>
> TIA daveA
>


I found the "notes on the guitar" very useful for students.

The chords on this page

http :// www .openguitar,com /ch102.html

seem mostly unreadable to me.

I don't think ASCII characters are adequate to the task. Those diagrams
need to be clear and easily readable.



--
Stephen
Ballina, Australia

Re: Unicode Chord Charts in HTML

On Mar 26, 7:57 pm, Stephen Calder <cald...@in,com .au> wrote:
> The chords on this page
>
> http :// www .openguitar,com /ch102.html
>
> seem mostly unreadable to me.
>
> I don't think ASCII characters are adequate to the task. Those diagrams
> need to be clear and easily readable.
>

Well, for starters, characters don't line up (two diff browsers -
Safari 3.1 and Firefox 2).

Bill

Re: Unicode Chord Charts in HTML

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:15:57 -0700, HotMagma wrote:

> On Mar 26, 7:57 pm, Stephen Calder <cald...@in,com .au> wrote:
>> The chords on this page
>>
>> http :// www .openguitar,com /ch102.html
>>
>> seem mostly unreadable to me.
>>
>> I don't think ASCII characters are adequate to the task. Those diagrams
>> need to be clear and easily readable.
>>
>>
> Well, for starters, characters don't line up (two diff browsers - Safari
> 3.1 and Firefox 2).
>
> Bill

You need utf-8 encoding. I think you can set it in your browser.
I have iceweasel, which is firefox, and the chords look good,
although the overall effect is not great. I need better CSS,
but again my stylesheet isn't really bad, it's just having a
lot asked of it. :-) daveA

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Re: Unicode Chord Charts in HTML

On 26 Mar 2008, David Raleigh Arnold <darnold4@cox,net > wrote in
alt.guitar.beginner:

> You need utf-8 encoding.

I use Firefox, using utf-8. Your diagrams are garbled:

http :// home,com cast,net /~rednoise/temp/chords.png

Re: Unicode Chord Charts in HTML

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:46:57 -0500, Nil wrote:

> On 26 Mar 2008, David Raleigh Arnold <darnold4@cox,net > wrote in
> alt.guitar.beginner:
>
>> You need utf-8 encoding.
>
> I use Firefox, using utf-8. Your diagrams are garbled:
>
> http :// home,com cast,net /~rednoise/temp/chords.png

Now that's peculiar. Set your fixed font to "monospace".
The color is baffling. I'm getting better and better
pdf's all the time, getting there. daveA

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Re: Unicode Chord Charts in HTML

On 26 Mar 2008, David Raleigh Arnold <darnold4@cox,net > wrote in
alt.guitar.beginner:

>> http :// home,com cast,net /~rednoise/temp/chords.png
>
> Now that's peculiar. Set your fixed font to "monospace".
> The color is baffling. I'm getting better and better
> pdf's all the time, getting there. daveA

I have no font names "monospace" on this computer. My monospace font is
Courier New. I tried a couple of others but your diagrams are still
garbled.

Re: Unicode Chord Charts in HTML

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:58:22 -0500, Nil wrote:

> On 26 Mar 2008, David Raleigh Arnold <darnold4@cox,net > wrote in
> alt.guitar.beginner:
>
>>> http :// home,com cast,net /~rednoise/temp/chords.png
>>
>> Now that's peculiar. Set your fixed font to "monospace". The color is
>> baffling. I'm getting better and better pdf's all the time, getting
>> there. daveA
>
> I have no font names "monospace" on this computer. My monospace font is
> Courier New. I tried a couple of others but your diagrams are still
> garbled.

Did you uncheck "Use my own fonts?". daveA

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Re: Unicode Chord Charts in HTML

On 27 Mar 2008, David Raleigh Arnold <darnold4@cox,net > wrote in
alt.guitar.beginner:

> Did you uncheck "Use my own fonts?". daveA

I tried that, but its still garbled.

That's as much testing of your page as I'm willing to do. You'll have
to fix it on your own.

I don't think your viewers are going to bother to change their browser
settings just to see your page.

Re: Unicode Chord Charts in HTML

On Mar 27, 10:47 am, Nil <rednoise+n...@REMOVETHIScomcast,net > wrote:
> I don't think your viewers are going to bother to change their browser
> settings just to see your page.

Hi David,

I just wanted to say that as a beginner, I found your site very
helpful. Your "10 Lessons" are greatly improving my technique and
sound, you've made my scales regimen a lot more systematic, and the
Carcassi links are a goldmine. My browser (FF, set on UTF-8) had
exactly the same problem as Lumpy's and Nil's, so I just ignored the
chord charts. Even without them, the site is a rich resource.

I guess my point is that the charts aren't a big deal. They're
available in many different places. If you want to provide them,
they'd add some value but they're not a unique feature like some of
your other stuff. And, like Nil says, it's easier to navigate to
another site than to diddle with my settings until they look right.

Could you use the tablature feature of Lilypond to generate charts?
That might fix the display problem, and having a tutorial on how to
use Lilypond to write tabs *would* be a unique and helpful feature.

--Cliff (on the west side of the 'pond)

Re: Unicode Chord Charts in HTML


"hcbowman" <hcbowman@gmail,com > wrote in message
news:8d1d009e-4f1c-4cf2-b811-f38470e1323e@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
snip
My browser (FF, set on UTF-8) had
> exactly the same problem as Lumpy's and Nil's, so I just ignored the
> chord charts. Even without them, the site is a rich resource.

and i use firefox and am set on UTF-8 and everything is fine.
??
gregg

Re: Unicode Chord Charts in HTML


"hcbowman" <hcbowman@gmail,com > wrote in message
news:8d1d009e-4f1c-4cf2-b811-f38470e1323e@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
> On Mar 27, 10:47 am, Nil <rednoise+n...@REMOVETHIScomcast,net > wrote:
>> I don't think your viewers are going to bother to change their browser
>> settings just to see your page.
>
> Hi David,
>
> I just wanted to say that as a beginner, I found your site very
> helpful. Your "10 Lessons" are greatly improving my technique and
> sound, you've made my scales regimen a lot more systematic, and the
> Carcassi links are a goldmine. My browser (FF, set on UTF-8) had
> exactly the same problem as Lumpy's and Nil's, so I just ignored the
> chord charts. Even without them, the site is a rich resource.
>
> I guess my point is that the charts aren't a big deal. They're
> available in many different places. If you want to provide them,
> they'd add some value but they're not a unique feature like some of
> your other stuff. And, like Nil says, it's easier to navigate to
> another site than to diddle with my settings until they look right.
>
> Could you use the tablature feature of Lilypond to generate charts?
> That might fix the display problem, and having a tutorial on how to
> use Lilypond to write tabs *would* be a unique and helpful feature.
>
> --Cliff (on the west side of the 'pond)
>
>

Looks great to me,and good content..

Re: Unicode Chord Charts in HTML

On 26 Mar, 23:48, David Raleigh Arnold <darno...@cox,net > wrote:

>
> > I use Firefox, using utf-8. Your diagrams are garbled:
>
>
> Now that's peculiar. Set your fixed font to "monospace".
> The color is baffling. I'm getting better and better
> pdf's all the time, getting there. daveA
>


Layout looks perfect to me.

Re: Unicode Chord Charts in HTML

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:39:53 +0000, Sean wrote:

> David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:15:57 -0700, HotMagma wrote:
>>
>>> On Mar 26, 7:57 pm, Stephen Calder <cald...@in,com .au> wrote:
>>>> The chords on this page
>>>>
>>>> http :// www .openguitar,com /ch102.html
>>>>
>>>> seem mostly unreadable to me.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think ASCII characters are adequate to the task. Those
>>>> diagrams need to be clear and easily readable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Well, for starters, characters don't line up (two diff browsers -
>>> Safari 3.1 and Firefox 2).
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>> You need utf-8 encoding. I think you can set it in your browser. I
>> have iceweasel, which is firefox, and the chords look good, although
>> the overall effect is not great. I need better CSS, but again my
>> stylesheet isn't really bad, it's just having a lot asked of it. :-)
>> daveA
>>
>>
> My character encoding is set to UTF-8 and things didn't line up in
> FireFox.

It worked with gnome-browser, konqueror, iceweasel, and epiphany, but
not dillo. Dillo has a config file, so I probably won't get around
to it. You don't have a setting for fixed space fonts or something
like that.
Go to preferences and set your fixed font to "monospace", and I think
you'll be in tall cotton. daveA

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http :// www .openguitar,com /dynamic.html. Original easy solos at:
http :// www .openguitar,com . :::=={_o) David Raleigh Arnold

Re: Unicode Chord Charts in HTML

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 07:35:23 -0700, Lumpy wrote:

> David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
>
>> Did you uncheck "Use my own fonts?".
>
> I'm not sure what I'm missing here. Do I really need to fix a bunch of
> settings in my browser just to see a chord chart? Seems to me there are
> plenty of such charts in the universe that I can view without having to
> rewrite my browser code.
>
>
> Lumpy
>
> In Your Ears for 40 Years
> www .LumpyMusic,com

Sure, but all of the new browsers claim to be able to handle
unicode and fixed spacing. I did not draw the diags, I made them like
this

ooxx
======
||/234
++++++
\____/

and converted the = | + to unicode box characters with
3 lines of sed in a script. It's really fast work. There are
all kinds of configuration issues that you could have,
and they could get in the way of other stuff too, some
of which you might be interested in.

I'm still trying to hack it into pdf. Getting close.

monospace is a generic font-family. If I knew more about
html I could give better configuration advice. daveA

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DGT: The very best technical exercises for all guitarists:
http :// www .openguitar,com /dynamic.html. Original easy solos at:
http :// www .openguitar,com . :::=={_o) David Raleigh Arnold