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Tendonitis Anyone?

Reply from: Thomas
Date: 27 Mar 2008, 20:03
Tendonitis Anyone?

I have been a mailman for 30 years. Lot's of using my right arm and hand.
Not just for delivering mail but also in using the seatbelt as often as Im
"supposed" too. I also play guitar. For the past few months I have
experience some tenderness in my right arm, mostly in the forearm area. Not
enough though as to keep me from working. The other night I was doing a lot
of strumming and I noticed that part of my arm get real sore but it seemed
to work itself out. I had a week off last week and I went and drove a four
wheeler and they are a little work to steer. The next day I work up with a
lot of pain in the arm and wrist, especially when I moved the wrist and the
arm was slightly swollen. Went to the Dr. and he gave me anti inflamatory
drugs and had me take a week off. It's feeling much better but Im just
curious as if anyone else has experienced and how they have dealt with it
playing guitar??

Thomas


Reply from: Rufus
Date: 27 Mar 2008, 20:07
Re: Tendonitis Anyone?

Thomas wrote:
> I have been a mailman for 30 years. Lot's of using my right arm and
> hand. Not just for delivering mail but also in using the seatbelt as
> often as Im "supposed" too. I also play guitar. For the past few
> months I have experience some tenderness in my right arm, mostly in the
> forearm area. Not enough though as to keep me from working. The other
> night I was doing a lot of strumming and I noticed that part of my arm
> get real sore but it seemed to work itself out. I had a week off last
> week and I went and drove a four wheeler and they are a little work to
> steer. The next day I work up with a lot of pain in the arm and wrist,
> especially when I moved the wrist and the arm was slightly swollen.
> Went to the Dr. and he gave me anti inflamatory drugs and had me take a
> week off. It's feeling much better but Im just curious as if anyone
> else has experienced and how they have dealt with it playing guitar??
>
> Thomas

For me I have to have a guitar that accommodates my anatomy. Flat
fretboards do, curved fretboards don't.

It seems I can't play Fender guitars - when I play a guitar with a
curved fretboard like a Fender, I develop tendonitis in my left index
finger. I have no trouble playing Gibson necks with flat (11 inch
radius, like a Les Paul, or most acoustics) fretboards.

I had put my Tele in it's case in the closet for a couple months, and my
finger got better, even though I was still playing my Les Pauls...took
it out and played it for ten minutes last Saturday and now I've got some
pain back. But I can still play my Gibsons comfortably.

--
- Rufus

Reply from: Angof
Date: 27 Mar 2008, 20:37
Re: Tendonitis Anyone?

I had a similar problem which was actually rooted in my shoulder although it
was presenting in my arm. I had physiotherapy and a rest from guitar
playing. I still suffer butnot half as bad. Make sure you warm up well and
stretch out your shoulder and back and arms. Remember to warm down as well.
Try to lay off the guitar for a bit.

Incidentally my physio reckoned I was overdoing the guitar playing by
playing a couple of hours a day. So it would make sense to create a healthy
routine for guitar playing for you. probably with a physio or someone like
that.

angof


"Rufus" <not@home,com > wrote in message
news:VfSGj.94416$yE1.72368@attbi_s21...
> Thomas wrote:
>> I have been a mailman for 30 years. Lot's of using my right arm and
>> hand. Not just for delivering mail but also in using the seatbelt as
>> often as Im "supposed" too. I also play guitar. For the past few months
>> I have experience some tenderness in my right arm, mostly in the forearm
>> area. Not enough though as to keep me from working. The other night I
>> was doing a lot of strumming and I noticed that part of my arm get real
>> sore but it seemed to work itself out. I had a week off last week and I
>> went and drove a four wheeler and they are a little work to steer. The
>> next day I work up with a lot of pain in the arm and wrist, especially
>> when I moved the wrist and the arm was slightly swollen. Went to the Dr.
>> and he gave me anti inflamatory drugs and had me take a week off. It's
>> feeling much better but Im just curious as if anyone else has experienced
>> and how they have dealt with it playing guitar??
>>
>> Thomas
>
> For me I have to have a guitar that accommodates my anatomy. Flat
> fretboards do, curved fretboards don't.
>
> It seems I can't play Fender guitars - when I play a guitar with a curved
> fretboard like a Fender, I develop tendonitis in my left index finger. I
> have no trouble playing Gibson necks with flat (11 inch radius, like a Les
> Paul, or most acoustics) fretboards.
>
> I had put my Tele in it's case in the closet for a couple months, and my
> finger got better, even though I was still playing my Les Pauls...took it
> out and played it for ten minutes last Saturday and now I've got some pain
> back. But I can still play my Gibsons comfortably.
>
> --
> - Rufus



Reply from: Rufus
Date: 28 Mar 2008, 01:54
Re: Tendonitis Anyone?

It all in the geometry of the anatomy of my hands - after taking a very
close look at my hands on my guitars, the problem is that I have a very
pronounced medial curve in my index finger(s) - left hand a bit more
pronounced than the right. When I fret a neck with a curved fretboard,
the way my left hand fits it puts a lateral load on my index finger when
I do barre chords because my finger tends to rotate more into the
surface. Bending also aggravates it.

When I grab the neck of a guitar with a flat fretboard my finger stays
more perpendicular to the surface and I don't get as much if any side
loading on it during barres.

I can compensate a bit with my Tele by slinging it lower (not higher),
but it's still not as comfortable for me as my Gibsons or an acoustic
axe. I can put down the Tele and pick up a Les Paul and get immediate
relief.

--
- Rufus

Angof wrote:
> I had a similar problem which was actually rooted in my shoulder although it
> was presenting in my arm. I had physiotherapy and a rest from guitar
> playing. I still suffer butnot half as bad. Make sure you warm up well and
> stretch out your shoulder and back and arms. Remember to warm down as well.
> Try to lay off the guitar for a bit.
>
> Incidentally my physio reckoned I was overdoing the guitar playing by
> playing a couple of hours a day. So it would make sense to create a healthy
> routine for guitar playing for you. probably with a physio or someone like
> that.
>
> angof
>
>
> "Rufus" <not@home,com > wrote in message
> news:VfSGj.94416$yE1.72368@attbi s21...
>> Thomas wrote:
>>> I have been a mailman for 30 years. Lot's of using my right arm and
>>> hand. Not just for delivering mail but also in using the seatbelt as
>>> often as Im "supposed" too. I also play guitar. For the past few months
>>> I have experience some tenderness in my right arm, mostly in the forearm
>>> area. Not enough though as to keep me from working. The other night I
>>> was doing a lot of strumming and I noticed that part of my arm get real
>>> sore but it seemed to work itself out. I had a week off last week and I
>>> went and drove a four wheeler and they are a little work to steer. The
>>> next day I work up with a lot of pain in the arm and wrist, especially
>>> when I moved the wrist and the arm was slightly swollen. Went to the Dr.
>>> and he gave me anti inflamatory drugs and had me take a week off. It's
>>> feeling much better but Im just curious as if anyone else has experienced
>>> and how they have dealt with it playing guitar??
>>>
>>> Thomas
>> For me I have to have a guitar that accommodates my anatomy. Flat
>> fretboards do, curved fretboards don't.
>>
>> It seems I can't play Fender guitars - when I play a guitar with a curved
>> fretboard like a Fender, I develop tendonitis in my left index finger. I
>> have no trouble playing Gibson necks with flat (11 inch radius, like a Les
>> Paul, or most acoustics) fretboards.
>>
>> I had put my Tele in it's case in the closet for a couple months, and my
>> finger got better, even though I was still playing my Les Pauls...took it
>> out and played it for ten minutes last Saturday and now I've got some pain
>> back. But I can still play my Gibsons comfortably.
>>
>> --
>> - Rufus
>
>

Reply from: Bryan
Date: 27 Mar 2008, 23:21
Re: Tendonitis Anyone?


"Rufus" <not@home,com > wrote in message
news:VfSGj.94416$yE1.72368@attbi_s21...
> Thomas wrote:
>> I have been a mailman for 30 years. Lot's of using my right arm and
>> hand. Not just for delivering mail but also in using the seatbelt as
>> often as Im "supposed" too. I also play guitar. For the past few months
>> I have experience some tenderness in my right arm, mostly in the forearm
>> area. Not enough though as to keep me from working. The other night I
>> was doing a lot of strumming and I noticed that part of my arm get real
>> sore but it seemed to work itself out. I had a week off last week and I
>> went and drove a four wheeler and they are a little work to steer. The
>> next day I work up with a lot of pain in the arm and wrist, especially
>> when I moved the wrist and the arm was slightly swollen. Went to the Dr.
>> and he gave me anti inflamatory drugs and had me take a week off. It's
>> feeling much better but Im just curious as if anyone else has experienced
>> and how they have dealt with it playing guitar??
>>
>> Thomas
>
> For me I have to have a guitar that accommodates my anatomy. Flat
> fretboards do, curved fretboards don't.
>
> It seems I can't play Fender guitars - when I play a guitar with a curved
> fretboard like a Fender, I develop tendonitis in my left index finger. I
> have no trouble playing Gibson necks with flat (11 inch radius, like a Les
> Paul, or most acoustics) fretboards.
>
> I had put my Tele in it's case in the closet for a couple months, and my
> finger got better, even though I was still playing my Les Pauls...took it
> out and played it for ten minutes last Saturday and now I've got some pain
> back. But I can still play my Gibsons comfortably.
>
> --
> - Rufus

Hmmm,so you have a tele for sale cheap?..:P



Reply from: Rufus
Date: 28 Mar 2008, 01:46
Re: Tendonitis Anyone?

Bryan wrote:
> "Rufus" <not@home,com > wrote in message
> news:VfSGj.94416$yE1.72368@attbi s21...
>> Thomas wrote:
>>> I have been a mailman for 30 years. Lot's of using my right arm and
>>> hand. Not just for delivering mail but also in using the seatbelt as
>>> often as Im "supposed" too. I also play guitar. For the past few months
>>> I have experience some tenderness in my right arm, mostly in the forearm
>>> area. Not enough though as to keep me from working. The other night I
>>> was doing a lot of strumming and I noticed that part of my arm get real
>>> sore but it seemed to work itself out. I had a week off last week and I
>>> went and drove a four wheeler and they are a little work to steer. The
>>> next day I work up with a lot of pain in the arm and wrist, especially
>>> when I moved the wrist and the arm was slightly swollen. Went to the Dr.
>>> and he gave me anti inflamatory drugs and had me take a week off. It's
>>> feeling much better but Im just curious as if anyone else has experienced
>>> and how they have dealt with it playing guitar??
>>>
>>> Thomas
>> For me I have to have a guitar that accommodates my anatomy. Flat
>> fretboards do, curved fretboards don't.
>>
>> It seems I can't play Fender guitars - when I play a guitar with a curved
>> fretboard like a Fender, I develop tendonitis in my left index finger. I
>> have no trouble playing Gibson necks with flat (11 inch radius, like a Les
>> Paul, or most acoustics) fretboards.
>>
>> I had put my Tele in it's case in the closet for a couple months, and my
>> finger got better, even though I was still playing my Les Pauls...took it
>> out and played it for ten minutes last Saturday and now I've got some pain
>> back. But I can still play my Gibsons comfortably.
>>
>> --
>> - Rufus
>
> Hmmm,so you have a tele for sale cheap?..:P
>
>

Naw...just means I'm a collector now...

--
- Rufus

Reply from: M.Butzin
Date: 28 Mar 2008, 21:14
Re: Tendonitis Anyone?


"Rufus" <not@home,com > wrote in message
news:qdXGj.94717$yE1.8666@attbi s21...
> Bryan wrote:
>> "Rufus" <not@home,com > wrote in message
>> news:VfSGj.94416$yE1.72368@attbi s21...
>>> Thomas wrote:
>>>> I have been a mailman for 30 years. Lot's of using my right arm and
>>>> hand. Not just for delivering mail but also in using the seatbelt as
>>>> often as Im "supposed" too. I also play guitar. For the past few
>>>> months I have experience some tenderness in my right arm, mostly in the
>>>> forearm area. Not enough though as to keep me from working. The other
>>>> night I was doing a lot of strumming and I noticed that part of my arm
>>>> get real sore but it seemed to work itself out. I had a week off last
>>>> week and I went and drove a four wheeler and they are a little work to
>>>> steer. The next day I work up with a lot of pain in the arm and wrist,
>>>> especially when I moved the wrist and the arm was slightly swollen.
>>>> Went to the Dr. and he gave me anti inflamatory drugs and had me take a
>>>> week off. It's feeling much better but Im just curious as if anyone
>>>> else has experienced and how they have dealt with it playing guitar??
>>>>
>>>> Thomas
>>> For me I have to have a guitar that accommodates my anatomy. Flat
>>> fretboards do, curved fretboards don't.
>>>
>>> It seems I can't play Fender guitars - when I play a guitar with a
>>> curved fretboard like a Fender, I develop tendonitis in my left index
>>> finger. I have no trouble playing Gibson necks with flat (11 inch
>>> radius, like a Les Paul, or most acoustics) fretboards.
>>>
>>> I had put my Tele in it's case in the closet for a couple months, and my
>>> finger got better, even though I was still playing my Les Pauls...took
>>> it out and played it for ten minutes last Saturday and now I've got some
>>> pain back. But I can still play my Gibsons comfortably.
>>>
>>> --
>>> - Rufus
>>
>> Hmmm,so you have a tele for sale cheap?..:P
>
> Naw...just means I'm a collector now...
>
> --
> - Rufus

Rufus,
"Investment Collector" works to keep questions from spouses down to nil.....

MB


Reply from: Rufus
Date: 29 Mar 2008, 03:12
Re: Tendonitis Anyone?

M.Butzin wrote:
>
> "Rufus" <not@home,com > wrote in message
> news:qdXGj.94717$yE1.8666@attbi s21...
>> Bryan wrote:
>>> "Rufus" <not@home,com > wrote in message
>>> news:VfSGj.94416$yE1.72368@attbi s21...
>>>> Thomas wrote:
>>>>> I have been a mailman for 30 years. Lot's of using my right arm
>>>>> and hand. Not just for delivering mail but also in using the
>>>>> seatbelt as often as Im "supposed" too. I also play guitar. For
>>>>> the past few months I have experience some tenderness in my right
>>>>> arm, mostly in the forearm area. Not enough though as to keep me
>>>>> from working. The other night I was doing a lot of strumming and I
>>>>> noticed that part of my arm get real sore but it seemed to work
>>>>> itself out. I had a week off last week and I went and drove a four
>>>>> wheeler and they are a little work to steer. The next day I work
>>>>> up with a lot of pain in the arm and wrist, especially when I moved
>>>>> the wrist and the arm was slightly swollen. Went to the Dr. and he
>>>>> gave me anti inflamatory drugs and had me take a week off. It's
>>>>> feeling much better but Im just curious as if anyone else has
>>>>> experienced and how they have dealt with it playing guitar??
>>>>>
>>>>> Thomas
>>>> For me I have to have a guitar that accommodates my anatomy. Flat
>>>> fretboards do, curved fretboards don't.
>>>>
>>>> It seems I can't play Fender guitars - when I play a guitar with a
>>>> curved fretboard like a Fender, I develop tendonitis in my left
>>>> index finger. I have no trouble playing Gibson necks with flat (11
>>>> inch radius, like a Les Paul, or most acoustics) fretboards.
>>>>
>>>> I had put my Tele in it's case in the closet for a couple months,
>>>> and my finger got better, even though I was still playing my Les
>>>> Pauls...took it out and played it for ten minutes last Saturday and
>>>> now I've got some pain back. But I can still play my Gibsons
>>>> comfortably.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> - Rufus
>>>
>>> Hmmm,so you have a tele for sale cheap?..:P
>>
>> Naw...just means I'm a collector now...
>>
>> --
>> - Rufus
>
> Rufus,
> "Investment Collector" works to keep questions from spouses down to
> nil.....
>
> MB

...what's a "spouse"?..

--
- Rufus

Reply from: Lumpy
Date: 29 Mar 2008, 05:29
Re: Tendonitis Anyone?

Rufus wrote:
> ...what's a "spouse"?..

Someone that used to bitch about your guitar purchases.


Lumpy

In Your Ears for 40 Years
www .LumpyMusic,com




Reply from: MikeyG
Date: 28 Mar 2008, 01:40
Re: Tendonitis Anyone?

Thomas wrote:
> I have been a mailman for 30 years. Lot's of using my right arm and
> hand. Not just for delivering mail but also in using the seatbelt as
> often as Im "supposed" too. I also play guitar. For the past few
> months I have experience some tenderness in my right arm, mostly in the
> forearm area. Not enough though as to keep me from working. The other
> night I was doing a lot of strumming and I noticed that part of my arm
> get real sore but it seemed to work itself out. I had a week off last
> week and I went and drove a four wheeler and they are a little work to
> steer. The next day I work up with a lot of pain in the arm and wrist,
> especially when I moved the wrist and the arm was slightly swollen.
> Went to the Dr. and he gave me anti inflamatory drugs and had me take a
> week off. It's feeling much better but Im just curious as if anyone
> else has experienced and how they have dealt with it playing guitar??
>
> Thomas


The timing of this post was coincidental, for me. I have been playing
for only a couple of years, I'm 51 years old, and as I have been
learning more, I am spending more time playing; particularly,this winter
when I had all kinds of time to play. I have been just, recently,
getting what feels like muscle pain, as if a pinched nerve?, along the
back of my shoulders and the base of my neck. The pain seems to come and
go and sometimes only, be in the shoulder(s) or forearm or bicep.
Ibuprofen has been helping and the pains seem to be gradually,become
less, painful the last few days. I was initially, pretty, puzzled at
this pain, it seemed that playing, (or my posture while playing; I play
sitting on the edge of the couch), was the only, thing that could be
causing this pain.

Mike

Reply from: Charmed Snark
Date: 28 Mar 2008, 16:11
Re: Tendonitis Anyone?

MikeyG expounded in
news:t8XGj.22782$0o7.1321@newssvr13.news.prodigy,net :

> Thomas wrote:
>>... For the past few
>> months I have experience some tenderness in my right arm, mostly in
>> the forearm area. Not enough though as to keep me from working. The
>> other night I was doing a lot of strumming and I noticed that part of
>> my arm get real sore but it seemed to work itself out.
>
> The timing of this post was coincidental, for me. I have been playing
..
> when I had all kinds of time to play. I have been just, recently,
> getting what feels like muscle pain, as if a pinched nerve?, along the
> back of my shoulders and the base of my neck. The pain seems to come
> and go and sometimes only, be in the shoulder(s) or forearm or bicep.
> Mike

I am not a doctor, but I know that tension can cause all kinds of
problems that you might not otherwise "acquire" (without guitar
playing). When I first started, I used to get a lot of neck pain
learning chords. If I get into difficult fingerpicking material, this
still starts to come back etc.

Pay special attention to your "state of relaxion" to see if this applies
to you. It is apparently very common for us to be unaware that we are
"enduring tension" as we work through things. If you become aware of
this, pause and relax. Shake your arms loose. Usually I have to back off
the tempo to eliminate the worst of the tension. Work through it slow
until you don't tense up. Eventually that "tension crises" will pass and
you will play it at normal tempo.

If you find that it doesn't appear to be tension, then I'd suggest
checking your posture. People our age tend to get a lot of posture and
spine related issues. If you're bending over your guitar, which might be
more common sitting with an acoustic, then this might be a factor. If
you're head is hanging down over the fretboard while standing and
playing electric, then this is another possibility.

Otherwise, it might just be the (until now) unnatural act of hanging
your right arm over the guitar for picking. The only other thing (apart
from doctors) I can suggest is to examine and perhaps change your
picking technique.

Snark.

--
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Reply from: M.Butzin
Date: 28 Mar 2008, 21:31
Re: Tendonitis Anyone?


"Charmed Snark" <snark@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns9A6F7A218AA6ASnarkCharmedImSure@66.150.105.47...
> MikeyG expounded in
> news:t8XGj.22782$0o7.1321@newssvr13.news.prodigy,net :
>
>> Thomas wrote:
>>>... For the past few
>>> months I have experience some tenderness in my right arm, mostly in
>>> the forearm area. Not enough though as to keep me from working. The
>>> other night I was doing a lot of strumming and I noticed that part of
>>> my arm get real sore but it seemed to work itself out.
>>
>> The timing of this post was coincidental, for me. I have been playing
> ..
>> when I had all kinds of time to play. I have been just, recently,
>> getting what feels like muscle pain, as if a pinched nerve?, along the
>> back of my shoulders and the base of my neck. The pain seems to come
>> and go and sometimes only, be in the shoulder(s) or forearm or bicep.
>> Mike
>
> I am not a doctor, but I know that tension can cause all kinds of
> problems that you might not otherwise "acquire" (without guitar
> playing). When I first started, I used to get a lot of neck pain
> learning chords. If I get into difficult fingerpicking material, this
> still starts to come back etc.
>
> Pay special attention to your "state of relaxion" to see if this applies
> to you. It is apparently very common for us to be unaware that we are
> "enduring tension" as we work through things. If you become aware of
> this, pause and relax. Shake your arms loose. Usually I have to back off
> the tempo to eliminate the worst of the tension. Work through it slow
> until you don't tense up. Eventually that "tension crises" will pass and
> you will play it at normal tempo.
>
> If you find that it doesn't appear to be tension, then I'd suggest
> checking your posture. People our age tend to get a lot of posture and
> spine related issues. If you're bending over your guitar, which might be
> more common sitting with an acoustic, then this might be a factor. If
> you're head is hanging down over the fretboard while standing and
> playing electric, then this is another possibility.
>
> Otherwise, it might just be the (until now) unnatural act of hanging
> your right arm over the guitar for picking. The only other thing (apart
> from doctors) I can suggest is to examine and perhaps change your
> picking technique.
>
> Snark.

Snark,
Your right on in your reply to MikeyG, one thing that "people our age" do
not take into consideration is that our bodies slowly loose conditioning and
things that we used to do now, result in pain. For some people a little
exercise and stretching may go a long way to resolve some of the issues with
pain, and taking breaks also. For a while in the beginning I had a "gorilla
grip" and my fret hand had bleeding finger tips, I'm retired and figured I
could "practice all day" well my hand couldn't. It wasn't until someone here
posted "Slow Down" that I realized what I was doing wrong. Too much, too
fast, too long was causing me similar problems.
MB


Reply from: Charmed Snark
Date: 29 Mar 2008, 06:14
Re: Tendonitis Anyone?

M.Butzin expounded in news:CAcHj.516$Nc5.38@newssvr27.news.prodigy,net :
> "Charmed Snark" <snark@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A6F7A218AA6ASnarkCharmedImSure@66.150.105.47...
>> MikeyG expounded in
>> news:t8XGj.22782$0o7.1321@newssvr13.news.prodigy,net :
>>
>>> Thomas wrote:
>>>>... For the past few
>>>> months I have experience some tenderness in my right arm, mostly in
>>>> the forearm area. Not enough though as to keep me from working.
>>>> The other night I was doing a lot of strumming and I noticed that
>>>> part of my arm get real sore but it seemed to work itself out.
>>>
>>> The timing of this post was coincidental, for me. I have been
>>> playing
>> ..
>>> when I had all kinds of time to play. I have been just, recently,
>>> getting what feels like muscle pain, as if a pinched nerve?, along
...
>> If you find that it doesn't appear to be tension, then I'd suggest
>> checking your posture. People our age tend to get a lot of posture
>> and spine related issues. If you're bending over your guitar, which
>> might be more common sitting with an acoustic, then this might be a
>> factor. If you're head is hanging down over the fretboard while
>> standing and playing electric, then this is another possibility.
>>
>> Otherwise, it might just be the (until now) unnatural act of hanging
>> your right arm over the guitar for picking. The only other thing
>> (apart from doctors) I can suggest is to examine and perhaps change
>> your picking technique.
>>
>> Snark.
>
> Snark,
> Your right on in your reply to MikeyG, one thing that "people our age"
> do not take into consideration is that our bodies slowly loose
> conditioning and things that we used to do now, result in pain. For
> some people a little exercise and stretching may go a long way to
> resolve some of the issues with pain, and taking breaks also. For a
> while in the beginning I had a "gorilla grip" and my fret hand had
> bleeding finger tips, I'm retired and figured I could "practice all
> day" well my hand couldn't. It wasn't until someone here posted "Slow
> Down" that I realized what I was doing wrong. Too much, too fast, too
> long was causing me similar problems. MB

Yep- too much, too fast. We still think young, but our bodies just can't
keep up with the pace anymore!

Marathon efforts may work for young folk, but it starts to lose
effectiveness somewhere on the way to the bone-yard.

Snark.

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