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OK, I got my Strat today and was wondering about something...
OK, I got my Strat today and was wondering about something...
I just got my Fender Deluxe Players Stratocaster today and have a
question.
Do you know that little piece of hardware on the head stock that
changes the angle that B & high E comes off the nut (toward the tuning
pegs). Is it supposed to flap in the breeze when those two strings
are removed or should it fit snugly against the head stock?
On mine the little screw is not all the way in so that if I removed
the strings it would flap around, and to me it just doesn't seem
right.
What's going on here? Why is it necessary in the first place? Why is
the angle important. (the only function I see)
TIA
I just got my Fender Deluxe Players Stratocaster today and have a
question.
Do you know that little piece of hardware on the head stock that
changes the angle that B & high E comes off the nut (toward the tuning
pegs). Is it supposed to flap in the breeze when those two strings
are removed or should it fit snugly against the head stock?
On mine the little screw is not all the way in so that if I removed
the strings it would flap around, and to me it just doesn't seem
right.
What's going on here? Why is it necessary in the first place? Why is
the angle important. (the only function I see)
TIA
Re: OK, I got my Strat today and was wondering about something...
Triad wrote:
> Do you know that little piece of hardware on the head stock that
> changes the angle that B & high E comes off the nut (toward the tuning
> pegs)...
String tree.
> ...Is it supposed to flap in the breeze when those two strings
> are removed or should it fit snugly against the head stock?
Probably shouldn't "flop". Should sit there pretty snug.
If it's the kind that looks like a batwing on a post,
it gets loose if one of it's prisoners is removed
while the other remains in place.
> ... Why is it necessary in the first place? Why is
> the angle important. (the only function I see)
If the strings don't have much of a "take off angle"
as they cross the nut, they aren't making good
contact at that end of the neck. It might be like
fretting too lightly.
It also allows you to tell chicks that you have
a steep take off angle. That, and humidifiers,
will get you laid every time.
Lumpy
Oooh!
www .CraigAndHeather,net
Triad wrote:
> Do you know that little piece of hardware on the head stock that
> changes the angle that B & high E comes off the nut (toward the tuning
> pegs)...
String tree.
> ...Is it supposed to flap in the breeze when those two strings
> are removed or should it fit snugly against the head stock?
Probably shouldn't "flop". Should sit there pretty snug.
If it's the kind that looks like a batwing on a post,
it gets loose if one of it's prisoners is removed
while the other remains in place.
> ... Why is it necessary in the first place? Why is
> the angle important. (the only function I see)
If the strings don't have much of a "take off angle"
as they cross the nut, they aren't making good
contact at that end of the neck. It might be like
fretting too lightly.
It also allows you to tell chicks that you have
a steep take off angle. That, and humidifiers,
will get you laid every time.
Lumpy
Oooh!
www .CraigAndHeather,net
Re: OK, I got my Strat today and was wondering about something...
"Lumpy" <lumpy@digitalcartography,com > wrote in message
news:65ivtbF2e2hqbU1@mid.individual,net ...
> Triad wrote:
>
>> Do you know that little piece of hardware on the head stock that
>> changes the angle that B & high E comes off the nut (toward the tuning
>> pegs)...
>
> String tree.
>
>> ...Is it supposed to flap in the breeze when those two strings
>> are removed or should it fit snugly against the head stock?
>
> Probably shouldn't "flop". Should sit there pretty snug.
> If it's the kind that looks like a batwing on a post,
> it gets loose if one of it's prisoners is removed
> while the other remains in place.
I think all the ones I've seen have had a spacer between the headstock and
the batwing thingy to hold it firm when there aren't any strings on. Maybe
that bit was missed on the OP's guitar, or the screw wasn't tightened.
Tony D
"Lumpy" <lumpy@digitalcartography,com > wrote in message
news:65ivtbF2e2hqbU1@mid.individual,net ...
> Triad wrote:
>
>> Do you know that little piece of hardware on the head stock that
>> changes the angle that B & high E comes off the nut (toward the tuning
>> pegs)...
>
> String tree.
>
>> ...Is it supposed to flap in the breeze when those two strings
>> are removed or should it fit snugly against the head stock?
>
> Probably shouldn't "flop". Should sit there pretty snug.
> If it's the kind that looks like a batwing on a post,
> it gets loose if one of it's prisoners is removed
> while the other remains in place.
I think all the ones I've seen have had a spacer between the headstock and
the batwing thingy to hold it firm when there aren't any strings on. Maybe
that bit was missed on the OP's guitar, or the screw wasn't tightened.
Tony D
Re: OK, I got my Strat today and was wondering about something...
On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 03:25:43 GMT, "Tony Done" <tonydone@bigpond,com >
wrote:
>
>"Lumpy" <lumpy@digitalcartography,com > wrote in message
>news:65ivtbF2e2hqbU1@mid.individual,net ...
>> Triad wrote:
>>
>>> Do you know that little piece of hardware on the head stock that
>>> changes the angle that B & high E comes off the nut (toward the tuning
>>> pegs)...
>>
>> String tree.
>>
>>> ...Is it supposed to flap in the breeze when those two strings
>>> are removed or should it fit snugly against the head stock?
>>
>> Probably shouldn't "flop". Should sit there pretty snug.
>> If it's the kind that looks like a batwing on a post,
>> it gets loose if one of it's prisoners is removed
>> while the other remains in place.
>
>I think all the ones I've seen have had a spacer between the headstock and
>the batwing thingy to hold it firm when there aren't any strings on. Maybe
>that bit was missed on the OP's guitar, or the screw wasn't tightened.
>
>Tony D
>
There is no spacer. Just a gold(faux) plated screw and string tree.
I've also asked Fender, but I'm sure they'll be slow to respond.
Thanks Much!
On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 03:25:43 GMT, "Tony Done" <tonydone@bigpond,com >
wrote:
>
>"Lumpy" <lumpy@digitalcartography,com > wrote in message
>news:65ivtbF2e2hqbU1@mid.individual,net ...
>> Triad wrote:
>>
>>> Do you know that little piece of hardware on the head stock that
>>> changes the angle that B & high E comes off the nut (toward the tuning
>>> pegs)...
>>
>> String tree.
>>
>>> ...Is it supposed to flap in the breeze when those two strings
>>> are removed or should it fit snugly against the head stock?
>>
>> Probably shouldn't "flop". Should sit there pretty snug.
>> If it's the kind that looks like a batwing on a post,
>> it gets loose if one of it's prisoners is removed
>> while the other remains in place.
>
>I think all the ones I've seen have had a spacer between the headstock and
>the batwing thingy to hold it firm when there aren't any strings on. Maybe
>that bit was missed on the OP's guitar, or the screw wasn't tightened.
>
>Tony D
>
There is no spacer. Just a gold(faux) plated screw and string tree.
I've also asked Fender, but I'm sure they'll be slow to respond.
Thanks Much!
Re: OK, I got my Strat today and was wondering about something...
Triad wrote:
> There is no spacer. Just a gold(faux) plated screw and string tree.
> I've also asked Fender, but I'm sure they'll be slow to respond.
You can safely tighten it down to make it snug.
Obviously use common sense. The screw is tiny
and seated in wood. It tends to work loose and
strip. I frequently plug, glue and redrill string
tree holes that have stripped, as I do for tuner
machine screw holes.
Lumpy
In Your Ears for 40 Years
www .LumpyMusic,com
Triad wrote:
> There is no spacer. Just a gold(faux) plated screw and string tree.
> I've also asked Fender, but I'm sure they'll be slow to respond.
You can safely tighten it down to make it snug.
Obviously use common sense. The screw is tiny
and seated in wood. It tends to work loose and
strip. I frequently plug, glue and redrill string
tree holes that have stripped, as I do for tuner
machine screw holes.
Lumpy
In Your Ears for 40 Years
www .LumpyMusic,com
Re: OK, I got my Strat today and was wondering about something...
In article <rfk8v3tfqeksn5fdv0j3f856p8r2h9qcp1@4ax,com >, Triad <Music@TheCore,net > wrote:
> I just got my Fender Deluxe Players Stratocaster today and have a
> question.
>
> Do you know that little piece of hardware on the head stock that
> changes the angle that B & high E comes off the nut (toward the tuning
> pegs). Is it supposed to flap in the breeze when those two strings
> are removed or should it fit snugly against the head stock?
>
> On mine the little screw is not all the way in so that if I removed
> the strings it would flap around, and to me it just doesn't seem
> right.
>
> What's going on here? Why is it necessary in the first place? Why is
> the angle important. (the only function I see)
>
> TIA
>
>
that's common for those string tree screws to come loose (that little
thingie is called a string tree - it keeps pressure on the strings
to hold them down on the nut - it keeps a steeper angle on the strings
more than just the angle provided by the strings on the tuning peg)
anyways - just get a little phillips head screwdriver and tighten it up.
It's best to tighten it while the guitar is strung up so the tree will
naturally line up where it wants to be. If you tighten it up while there
are no strings on the guitar then make sure to tighten it up so
that the tree string is lined up nicely to run the strings
under it to the associated tuner peg(s).
It's ok if it remains a little loose - once you string up the guitar
the string pressure will set it in place. But it should not be 'flapping around'
loose. So give it a tighten.
While you're at it -- get yourself a few appropriate screw drivers
and tighten down other things on the guitar (and you'll need a box wrench too).
Tighten the tuners (if you have ping tuners the nut is right at the
bottom of the tuning peg on the front side of the headstock - a box wrench
will tighten them up if they are loose - don't tighten the thing in a death
grip - just give a turn until they are snug tight)
then - go around your pickguard and make sure all the screws on the
pickguard are tight including the screws that hold in the 5 way pickup switch.
But DO NOT turn or tighten down the pickup adjustment screws (the screws
located right next to your pickups). These screws move the pickups up
and down and you can experiment with pickup height at a later time.
You can raise and lower them or raise one side and lower the other.
These will create different output changes which can affect the sounds
of the guitar for eac pickup - however - there are points in which you
raise the pickup too high and it will start to affect sustain and
lower them too much and the decreased output will make for a guitar
with very little volume output.
ok - let's not get too distracted - tighten up the strap holder screws.
(these are the little screws that hold down the strap buttons).
Tighten down the jack screws (the 2 little screws holding in the jack plate)
And finally - turn your guitar around and tighten down the 4 wood screws
holding in your neck. (the 4 screws at the neck plate).
Do NOT try to over muscle these neck screws. Just tighten until they
are nice and snug.
You have to remember that these screws (with the exception of the
pickup height adjustment screws) are wood screws. And wood being
what it is will allow these screws to slightly loosen over time.
They may have been tight at the time of production but it is normal
for them to loosen over time. So snug them up tight and you'll be all
set for a while.
that's my 2 cents.
In article <rfk8v3tfqeksn5fdv0j3f856p8r2h9qcp1@4ax,com >, Triad <Music@TheCore,net > wrote:
> I just got my Fender Deluxe Players Stratocaster today and have a
> question.
>
> Do you know that little piece of hardware on the head stock that
> changes the angle that B & high E comes off the nut (toward the tuning
> pegs). Is it supposed to flap in the breeze when those two strings
> are removed or should it fit snugly against the head stock?
>
> On mine the little screw is not all the way in so that if I removed
> the strings it would flap around, and to me it just doesn't seem
> right.
>
> What's going on here? Why is it necessary in the first place? Why is
> the angle important. (the only function I see)
>
> TIA
>
>
that's common for those string tree screws to come loose (that little
thingie is called a string tree - it keeps pressure on the strings
to hold them down on the nut - it keeps a steeper angle on the strings
more than just the angle provided by the strings on the tuning peg)
anyways - just get a little phillips head screwdriver and tighten it up.
It's best to tighten it while the guitar is strung up so the tree will
naturally line up where it wants to be. If you tighten it up while there
are no strings on the guitar then make sure to tighten it up so
that the tree string is lined up nicely to run the strings
under it to the associated tuner peg(s).
It's ok if it remains a little loose - once you string up the guitar
the string pressure will set it in place. But it should not be 'flapping around'
loose. So give it a tighten.
While you're at it -- get yourself a few appropriate screw drivers
and tighten down other things on the guitar (and you'll need a box wrench too).
Tighten the tuners (if you have ping tuners the nut is right at the
bottom of the tuning peg on the front side of the headstock - a box wrench
will tighten them up if they are loose - don't tighten the thing in a death
grip - just give a turn until they are snug tight)
then - go around your pickguard and make sure all the screws on the
pickguard are tight including the screws that hold in the 5 way pickup switch.
But DO NOT turn or tighten down the pickup adjustment screws (the screws
located right next to your pickups). These screws move the pickups up
and down and you can experiment with pickup height at a later time.
You can raise and lower them or raise one side and lower the other.
These will create different output changes which can affect the sounds
of the guitar for eac pickup - however - there are points in which you
raise the pickup too high and it will start to affect sustain and
lower them too much and the decreased output will make for a guitar
with very little volume output.
ok - let's not get too distracted - tighten up the strap holder screws.
(these are the little screws that hold down the strap buttons).
Tighten down the jack screws (the 2 little screws holding in the jack plate)
And finally - turn your guitar around and tighten down the 4 wood screws
holding in your neck. (the 4 screws at the neck plate).
Do NOT try to over muscle these neck screws. Just tighten until they
are nice and snug.
You have to remember that these screws (with the exception of the
pickup height adjustment screws) are wood screws. And wood being
what it is will allow these screws to slightly loosen over time.
They may have been tight at the time of production but it is normal
for them to loosen over time. So snug them up tight and you'll be all
set for a while.
that's my 2 cents.
Re: OK, I got my Strat today and was wondering about something...
Squier,
Good advice. Is Fender having quality control problems? These aren't
things the owner should have to fix.
Dave M.
Squier,
Good advice. Is Fender having quality control problems? These aren't
things the owner should have to fix.
Dave M.
Re: OK, I got my Strat today and was wondering about something...
> David L. Martel <marte005@earthlink,net > wrote:
> Squier,
>
> Good advice. Is Fender having quality control problems? These aren't
> things the owner should have to fix.
>
> Dave M.
>
>
ah that's all part of owning the guitar.
no biggie.
> David L. Martel <marte005@earthlink,net > wrote:
> Squier,
>
> Good advice. Is Fender having quality control problems? These aren't
> things the owner should have to fix.
>
> Dave M.
>
>
ah that's all part of owning the guitar.
no biggie.
Re: OK, I got my Strat today and was wondering about something...
On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 02:00:23 -0400, Squier <squier@strats,net > wrote:
>In article <rfk8v3tfqeksn5fdv0j3f856p8r2h9qcp1@4ax,com >, Triad <Music@TheCore,net > wrote:
>
>> I just got my Fender Deluxe Players Stratocaster today and have a
>> question.
>>
>> Do you know that little piece of hardware on the head stock that
>> changes the angle that B & high E comes off the nut (toward the tuning
>> pegs). Is it supposed to flap in the breeze when those two strings
>> are removed or should it fit snugly against the head stock?
>>
>> On mine the little screw is not all the way in so that if I removed
>> the strings it would flap around, and to me it just doesn't seem
>> right.
>>
>> What's going on here? Why is it necessary in the first place? Why is
>> the angle important. (the only function I see)
>>
>> TIA
>>
>>
>
>that's common for those string tree screws to come loose (that little
>thingie is called a string tree - it keeps pressure on the strings
>to hold them down on the nut - it keeps a steeper angle on the strings
>more than just the angle provided by the strings on the tuning peg)
>
>anyways - just get a little phillips head screwdriver and tighten it up.
>It's best to tighten it while the guitar is strung up so the tree will
>naturally line up where it wants to be. If you tighten it up while there
>are no strings on the guitar then make sure to tighten it up so
>that the tree string is lined up nicely to run the strings
>under it to the associated tuner peg(s).
>
>It's ok if it remains a little loose - once you string up the guitar
>the string pressure will set it in place. But it should not be 'flapping around'
>loose. So give it a tighten.
>
>While you're at it -- get yourself a few appropriate screw drivers
>and tighten down other things on the guitar (and you'll need a box wrench too).
>Tighten the tuners (if you have ping tuners the nut is right at the
>bottom of the tuning peg on the front side of the headstock - a box wrench
>will tighten them up if they are loose - don't tighten the thing in a death
>grip - just give a turn until they are snug tight)
>
>then - go around your pickguard and make sure all the screws on the
>pickguard are tight including the screws that hold in the 5 way pickup switch.
>But DO NOT turn or tighten down the pickup adjustment screws (the screws
>located right next to your pickups). These screws move the pickups up
>and down and you can experiment with pickup height at a later time.
>You can raise and lower them or raise one side and lower the other.
>These will create different output changes which can affect the sounds
>of the guitar for eac pickup - however - there are points in which you
>raise the pickup too high and it will start to affect sustain and
>lower them too much and the decreased output will make for a guitar
>with very little volume output.
>
>ok - let's not get too distracted - tighten up the strap holder screws.
>(these are the little screws that hold down the strap buttons).
>Tighten down the jack screws (the 2 little screws holding in the jack plate)
>And finally - turn your guitar around and tighten down the 4 wood screws
>holding in your neck. (the 4 screws at the neck plate).
>Do NOT try to over muscle these neck screws. Just tighten until they
>are nice and snug.
>
>You have to remember that these screws (with the exception of the
>pickup height adjustment screws) are wood screws. And wood being
>what it is will allow these screws to slightly loosen over time.
>They may have been tight at the time of production but it is normal
>for them to loosen over time. So snug them up tight and you'll be all
>set for a while.
>
>that's my 2 cents.
Seems more like a nickel at least. Thanks, I appreciate the input.
And I can see from a shipping point of view how things could get
loose.
The funny thing is that elsewhere I've been told that I should leave
the string tree loose because that's how Vintage string trees were
setup.
Actually I'm looking at it more from a functionality standpoint, i.e.,
tuning stability, angle off the nut, string wear, and any other items
I neglected to consider.
On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 02:00:23 -0400, Squier <squier@strats,net > wrote:
>In article <rfk8v3tfqeksn5fdv0j3f856p8r2h9qcp1@4ax,com >, Triad <Music@TheCore,net > wrote:
>
>> I just got my Fender Deluxe Players Stratocaster today and have a
>> question.
>>
>> Do you know that little piece of hardware on the head stock that
>> changes the angle that B & high E comes off the nut (toward the tuning
>> pegs). Is it supposed to flap in the breeze when those two strings
>> are removed or should it fit snugly against the head stock?
>>
>> On mine the little screw is not all the way in so that if I removed
>> the strings it would flap around, and to me it just doesn't seem
>> right.
>>
>> What's going on here? Why is it necessary in the first place? Why is
>> the angle important. (the only function I see)
>>
>> TIA
>>
>>
>
>that's common for those string tree screws to come loose (that little
>thingie is called a string tree - it keeps pressure on the strings
>to hold them down on the nut - it keeps a steeper angle on the strings
>more than just the angle provided by the strings on the tuning peg)
>
>anyways - just get a little phillips head screwdriver and tighten it up.
>It's best to tighten it while the guitar is strung up so the tree will
>naturally line up where it wants to be. If you tighten it up while there
>are no strings on the guitar then make sure to tighten it up so
>that the tree string is lined up nicely to run the strings
>under it to the associated tuner peg(s).
>
>It's ok if it remains a little loose - once you string up the guitar
>the string pressure will set it in place. But it should not be 'flapping around'
>loose. So give it a tighten.
>
>While you're at it -- get yourself a few appropriate screw drivers
>and tighten down other things on the guitar (and you'll need a box wrench too).
>Tighten the tuners (if you have ping tuners the nut is right at the
>bottom of the tuning peg on the front side of the headstock - a box wrench
>will tighten them up if they are loose - don't tighten the thing in a death
>grip - just give a turn until they are snug tight)
>
>then - go around your pickguard and make sure all the screws on the
>pickguard are tight including the screws that hold in the 5 way pickup switch.
>But DO NOT turn or tighten down the pickup adjustment screws (the screws
>located right next to your pickups). These screws move the pickups up
>and down and you can experiment with pickup height at a later time.
>You can raise and lower them or raise one side and lower the other.
>These will create different output changes which can affect the sounds
>of the guitar for eac pickup - however - there are points in which you
>raise the pickup too high and it will start to affect sustain and
>lower them too much and the decreased output will make for a guitar
>with very little volume output.
>
>ok - let's not get too distracted - tighten up the strap holder screws.
>(these are the little screws that hold down the strap buttons).
>Tighten down the jack screws (the 2 little screws holding in the jack plate)
>And finally - turn your guitar around and tighten down the 4 wood screws
>holding in your neck. (the 4 screws at the neck plate).
>Do NOT try to over muscle these neck screws. Just tighten until they
>are nice and snug.
>
>You have to remember that these screws (with the exception of the
>pickup height adjustment screws) are wood screws. And wood being
>what it is will allow these screws to slightly loosen over time.
>They may have been tight at the time of production but it is normal
>for them to loosen over time. So snug them up tight and you'll be all
>set for a while.
>
>that's my 2 cents.
Seems more like a nickel at least. Thanks, I appreciate the input.
And I can see from a shipping point of view how things could get
loose.
The funny thing is that elsewhere I've been told that I should leave
the string tree loose because that's how Vintage string trees were
setup.
Actually I'm looking at it more from a functionality standpoint, i.e.,
tuning stability, angle off the nut, string wear, and any other items
I neglected to consider.
Re: OK, I got my Strat today and was wondering about something...
> Triad <Music@TheCore,net > wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 02:00:23 -0400, Squier <squier@strats,net > wrote:
>
> Triad <Music@TheCore,net > wrote:
> >
> >> I just got my Fender Deluxe Players Stratocaster today and have a
> >> question.
> >>
> >> Do you know that little piece of hardware on the head stock that
> >> changes the angle that B & high E comes off the nut (toward the tuning
> >> pegs). Is it supposed to flap in the breeze when those two strings
> >> are removed or should it fit snugly against the head stock?
> >>
> >> On mine the little screw is not all the way in so that if I removed
> >> the strings it would flap around, and to me it just doesn't seem
> >> right.
> >>
> >> What's going on here? Why is it necessary in the first place? Why is
> >> the angle important. (the only function I see)
> >>
> >> TIA
> >>
> >>
> >
> >that's common for those string tree screws to come loose (that little
> >thingie is called a string tree - it keeps pressure on the strings
> >to hold them down on the nut - it keeps a steeper angle on the strings
> >more than just the angle provided by the strings on the tuning peg)
> >
> >anyways - just get a little phillips head screwdriver and tighten it up.
> >It's best to tighten it while the guitar is strung up so the tree will
> >naturally line up where it wants to be. If you tighten it up while there
> >are no strings on the guitar then make sure to tighten it up so
> >that the tree string is lined up nicely to run the strings
> >under it to the associated tuner peg(s).
> >
> >It's ok if it remains a little loose - once you string up the guitar
> >the string pressure will set it in place. But it should not be 'flapping around'
> >loose. So give it a tighten.
> >
> >While you're at it -- get yourself a few appropriate screw drivers
> >and tighten down other things on the guitar (and you'll need a box wrench too).
> >Tighten the tuners (if you have ping tuners the nut is right at the
> >bottom of the tuning peg on the front side of the headstock - a box wrench
> >will tighten them up if they are loose - don't tighten the thing in a death
> >grip - just give a turn until they are snug tight)
> >
> >then - go around your pickguard and make sure all the screws on the
> >pickguard are tight including the screws that hold in the 5 way pickup switch.
> >But DO NOT turn or tighten down the pickup adjustment screws (the screws
> >located right next to your pickups). These screws move the pickups up
> >and down and you can experiment with pickup height at a later time.
> >You can raise and lower them or raise one side and lower the other.
> >These will create different output changes which can affect the sounds
> >of the guitar for eac pickup - however - there are points in which you
> >raise the pickup too high and it will start to affect sustain and
> >lower them too much and the decreased output will make for a guitar
> >with very little volume output.
> >
> >ok - let's not get too distracted - tighten up the strap holder screws.
> >(these are the little screws that hold down the strap buttons).
> >Tighten down the jack screws (the 2 little screws holding in the jack plate)
> >And finally - turn your guitar around and tighten down the 4 wood screws
> >holding in your neck. (the 4 screws at the neck plate).
> >Do NOT try to over muscle these neck screws. Just tighten until they
> >are nice and snug.
> >
> >You have to remember that these screws (with the exception of the
> >pickup height adjustment screws) are wood screws. And wood being
> >what it is will allow these screws to slightly loosen over time.
> >They may have been tight at the time of production but it is normal
> >for them to loosen over time. So snug them up tight and you'll be all
> >set for a while.
> >
> >that's my 2 cents.
>
> Seems more like a nickel at least. Thanks, I appreciate the input.
> And I can see from a shipping point of view how things could get
> loose.
>
> The funny thing is that elsewhere I've been told that I should leave
> the string tree loose because that's how Vintage string trees were
> setup.
>
> Actually I'm looking at it more from a functionality standpoint, i.e.,
> tuning stability, angle off the nut, string wear, and any other items
> I neglected to consider.
well once again don't tighten it down super tight.
just so that it is snug. this was under string tension
that little tree still has some movement (so it will let the
string guide where it wants to be under tension) but it really
should not be flapping around. you'll know you have it tight
enough when it was still wiggle a little from side to side (but not
flapping or spinning around).
ok. have at it.
enjoy the strat! that's a nice one. (dlx player's)
> Triad <Music@TheCore,net > wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 02:00:23 -0400, Squier <squier@strats,net > wrote:
>
> Triad <Music@TheCore,net > wrote:
> >
> >> I just got my Fender Deluxe Players Stratocaster today and have a
> >> question.
> >>
> >> Do you know that little piece of hardware on the head stock that
> >> changes the angle that B & high E comes off the nut (toward the tuning
> >> pegs). Is it supposed to flap in the breeze when those two strings
> >> are removed or should it fit snugly against the head stock?
> >>
> >> On mine the little screw is not all the way in so that if I removed
> >> the strings it would flap around, and to me it just doesn't seem
> >> right.
> >>
> >> What's going on here? Why is it necessary in the first place? Why is
> >> the angle important. (the only function I see)
> >>
> >> TIA
> >>
> >>
> >
> >that's common for those string tree screws to come loose (that little
> >thingie is called a string tree - it keeps pressure on the strings
> >to hold them down on the nut - it keeps a steeper angle on the strings
> >more than just the angle provided by the strings on the tuning peg)
> >
> >anyways - just get a little phillips head screwdriver and tighten it up.
> >It's best to tighten it while the guitar is strung up so the tree will
> >naturally line up where it wants to be. If you tighten it up while there
> >are no strings on the guitar then make sure to tighten it up so
> >that the tree string is lined up nicely to run the strings
> >under it to the associated tuner peg(s).
> >
> >It's ok if it remains a little loose - once you string up the guitar
> >the string pressure will set it in place. But it should not be 'flapping around'
> >loose. So give it a tighten.
> >
> >While you're at it -- get yourself a few appropriate screw drivers
> >and tighten down other things on the guitar (and you'll need a box wrench too).
> >Tighten the tuners (if you have ping tuners the nut is right at the
> >bottom of the tuning peg on the front side of the headstock - a box wrench
> >will tighten them up if they are loose - don't tighten the thing in a death
> >grip - just give a turn until they are snug tight)
> >
> >then - go around your pickguard and make sure all the screws on the
> >pickguard are tight including the screws that hold in the 5 way pickup switch.
> >But DO NOT turn or tighten down the pickup adjustment screws (the screws
> >located right next to your pickups). These screws move the pickups up
> >and down and you can experiment with pickup height at a later time.
> >You can raise and lower them or raise one side and lower the other.
> >These will create different output changes which can affect the sounds
> >of the guitar for eac pickup - however - there are points in which you
> >raise the pickup too high and it will start to affect sustain and
> >lower them too much and the decreased output will make for a guitar
> >with very little volume output.
> >
> >ok - let's not get too distracted - tighten up the strap holder screws.
> >(these are the little screws that hold down the strap buttons).
> >Tighten down the jack screws (the 2 little screws holding in the jack plate)
> >And finally - turn your guitar around and tighten down the 4 wood screws
> >holding in your neck. (the 4 screws at the neck plate).
> >Do NOT try to over muscle these neck screws. Just tighten until they
> >are nice and snug.
> >
> >You have to remember that these screws (with the exception of the
> >pickup height adjustment screws) are wood screws. And wood being
> >what it is will allow these screws to slightly loosen over time.
> >They may have been tight at the time of production but it is normal
> >for them to loosen over time. So snug them up tight and you'll be all
> >set for a while.
> >
> >that's my 2 cents.
>
> Seems more like a nickel at least. Thanks, I appreciate the input.
> And I can see from a shipping point of view how things could get
> loose.
>
> The funny thing is that elsewhere I've been told that I should leave
> the string tree loose because that's how Vintage string trees were
> setup.
>
> Actually I'm looking at it more from a functionality standpoint, i.e.,
> tuning stability, angle off the nut, string wear, and any other items
> I neglected to consider.
well once again don't tighten it down super tight.
just so that it is snug. this was under string tension
that little tree still has some movement (so it will let the
string guide where it wants to be under tension) but it really
should not be flapping around. you'll know you have it tight
enough when it was still wiggle a little from side to side (but not
flapping or spinning around).
ok. have at it.
enjoy the strat! that's a nice one. (dlx player's)
Re: OK, I got my Strat today and was wondering about something...
On Apr 2, 7:57=EF=BF=BDpm, Triad <Mu...@TheCore,net > wrote:
> I just got my Fender Deluxe Players Stratocaster today and have a
> question.
>
> Do you know that little piece of hardware on the head stock that
> changes the angle that B & high E comes off the nut (toward the tuning
> pegs). =EF=BF=BDIs it supposed to flap in the breeze when those two string=
s
> are removed or should it fit snugly against the head stock?
>
> On mine the little screw is not all the way in so that if I removed
> the strings it would flap around, and to me it just doesn't seem
> right.
>
> What's going on here? =EF=BF=BDWhy is it necessary in the first place? =EF=
=BF=BDWhy is
> the angle important. (the only function I see)
>
> TIA
Leo Fender designed his guitars to be easy to make, and he decided
that it was easier to use string retainers and to put six tuners on
one side than to angle the head and put three tuners on each side.
On Apr 2, 7:57=EF=BF=BDpm, Triad <Mu...@TheCore,net > wrote:
> I just got my Fender Deluxe Players Stratocaster today and have a
> question.
>
> Do you know that little piece of hardware on the head stock that
> changes the angle that B & high E comes off the nut (toward the tuning
> pegs). =EF=BF=BDIs it supposed to flap in the breeze when those two string=
s
> are removed or should it fit snugly against the head stock?
>
> On mine the little screw is not all the way in so that if I removed
> the strings it would flap around, and to me it just doesn't seem
> right.
>
> What's going on here? =EF=BF=BDWhy is it necessary in the first place? =EF=
=BF=BDWhy is
> the angle important. (the only function I see)
>
> TIA
Leo Fender designed his guitars to be easy to make, and he decided
that it was easier to use string retainers and to put six tuners on
one side than to angle the head and put three tuners on each side.
