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I hate long posts
Re: I hate long posts
> Pt <peatea@yahoo,com > wrote:
> So I'll keep it short.
>
> TAP YOUR FOOT!
>
> Pt
ack! I can't think of anything long to write in reply!
why must you give short, succinct and nearly bullet proof advice!
heh.
> Pt <peatea@yahoo,com > wrote:
> So I'll keep it short.
>
> TAP YOUR FOOT!
>
> Pt
ack! I can't think of anything long to write in reply!
why must you give short, succinct and nearly bullet proof advice!
heh.
Re: I hate long posts
On 7 Apr, 02:20, Pt <pea...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> So I'll keep it short.
>
> TAP YOUR FOOT!
>
> Pt
Would the right be right or, should it be the left? Does it make a
difference if I'm left handed or playing a twelve string?
Cliff :-)
On 7 Apr, 02:20, Pt <pea...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> So I'll keep it short.
>
> TAP YOUR FOOT!
>
> Pt
Would the right be right or, should it be the left? Does it make a
difference if I'm left handed or playing a twelve string?
Cliff :-)
Re: I hate long posts
On Apr 6, 9:20 pm, Pt <pea...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> TAP YOUR FOOT!
My wife and I saw "Shine a Light" this weekend. It's amazing how much
mileage Keith Richards gets out of *smiling* on stage. I enjoyed
watching him just because he looked like he was having the time of his
life on stage.
ENJOY PERFORMING! (or at least act really well)
=)
--Cliff (US)
On Apr 6, 9:20 pm, Pt <pea...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> TAP YOUR FOOT!
My wife and I saw "Shine a Light" this weekend. It's amazing how much
mileage Keith Richards gets out of *smiling* on stage. I enjoyed
watching him just because he looked like he was having the time of his
life on stage.
ENJOY PERFORMING! (or at least act really well)
=)
--Cliff (US)
Re: I hate long posts
On Apr 6, 9:20 pm, Pt <pea...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> So I'll keep it short.
>
> TAP YOUR FOOT!
>
> Pt
I know you've mentioned this before Pat, but I agree. To tell an older
story that I've told elsewhere... a guy I played with in a band didn't
tape his foot. Consequently - probably not just because of the foot -
he would sometimes fall off the rhythm of a song. We encouraged him to
tap his foot, but it wasn't his style and after 1/2 of a song, he'd
stop.
Greg
On Apr 6, 9:20 pm, Pt <pea...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> So I'll keep it short.
>
> TAP YOUR FOOT!
>
> Pt
I know you've mentioned this before Pat, but I agree. To tell an older
story that I've told elsewhere... a guy I played with in a band didn't
tape his foot. Consequently - probably not just because of the foot -
he would sometimes fall off the rhythm of a song. We encouraged him to
tap his foot, but it wasn't his style and after 1/2 of a song, he'd
stop.
Greg
Re: I hate long posts
On 7 Apr, 13:32, oasysco <wilderkom...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> On Apr 6, 9:20 pm, Pt <pea...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > So I'll keep it short.
>
> > TAP YOUR FOOT!
>
> > Pt
>
> I know you've mentioned this before Pat, but I agree. To tell an older
> story that I've told elsewhere... a guy I played with in a band didn't
> tape his foot. Consequently - probably not just because of the foot -
> he would sometimes fall off the rhythm of a song. We encouraged him to
> tap his foot, but it wasn't his style and after 1/2 of a song, he'd
> stop.
>
> Greg
Suppose this foot tapping thing could be taken much deeper. Recently
posted a few clips in the jazz group. Most of the really helpful
advice I got was related to timing issues. You can learn modes and
various fancy scales etc but: it's not worth a think if it aint
got .............you know ;-)
Cliff
On 7 Apr, 13:32, oasysco <wilderkom...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> On Apr 6, 9:20 pm, Pt <pea...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > So I'll keep it short.
>
> > TAP YOUR FOOT!
>
> > Pt
>
> I know you've mentioned this before Pat, but I agree. To tell an older
> story that I've told elsewhere... a guy I played with in a band didn't
> tape his foot. Consequently - probably not just because of the foot -
> he would sometimes fall off the rhythm of a song. We encouraged him to
> tap his foot, but it wasn't his style and after 1/2 of a song, he'd
> stop.
>
> Greg
Suppose this foot tapping thing could be taken much deeper. Recently
posted a few clips in the jazz group. Most of the really helpful
advice I got was related to timing issues. You can learn modes and
various fancy scales etc but: it's not worth a think if it aint
got .............you know ;-)
Cliff
Re: I hate long posts
On Apr 6, 6:20 pm, Pt <pea...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> So I'll keep it short.
>
> TAP YOUR FOOT!
>
> Pt
Tap your foot, but don't stop there - get the whole bod groovin. hard
to fall off time if your dancin away.. ( well keep one ear on the
snare !!)- ed s.
On Apr 6, 6:20 pm, Pt <pea...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> So I'll keep it short.
>
> TAP YOUR FOOT!
>
> Pt
Tap your foot, but don't stop there - get the whole bod groovin. hard
to fall off time if your dancin away.. ( well keep one ear on the
snare !!)- ed s.
Re: I hate long posts
ed s wrote:
> Tap your foot, but don't stop there - get the whole bod groovin. hard
> to fall off time if your dancin away.. ( well keep one ear on the
> snare !!)- ed s.
Absolutely. If you don't feel the groove BEFORE you
even start playing, you're lost.
Orchestra players are strongly and specifically
directed NOT to tap their feet.
Lumpy
In Your Ears for 40 Years
www .LumpyMusic,com
ed s wrote:
> Tap your foot, but don't stop there - get the whole bod groovin. hard
> to fall off time if your dancin away.. ( well keep one ear on the
> snare !!)- ed s.
Absolutely. If you don't feel the groove BEFORE you
even start playing, you're lost.
Orchestra players are strongly and specifically
directed NOT to tap their feet.
Lumpy
In Your Ears for 40 Years
www .LumpyMusic,com
Re: I hate long posts
On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 07:08:27 -0700, Lumpy wrote:
> Orchestra players are strongly and specifically
> directed NOT to tap their feet.
They've got to follow the conductor, 'cause they know best. Like the one my
gf told me about a while ago (she sings in an opera choir in Austria)
during rehearsals who was conducting a 7/4 time piece. "no, no" he scolded
the choir, "it's one, two, three, four, five, six, sev-ven".
--
Tim C.
On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 07:08:27 -0700, Lumpy wrote:
> Orchestra players are strongly and specifically
> directed NOT to tap their feet.
They've got to follow the conductor, 'cause they know best. Like the one my
gf told me about a while ago (she sings in an opera choir in Austria)
during rehearsals who was conducting a 7/4 time piece. "no, no" he scolded
the choir, "it's one, two, three, four, five, six, sev-ven".
--
Tim C.
Re: I hate log posts
Lump:
> > Orchestra players are strongly and specifically
> > directed NOT to tap their feet.
Tim C.:
> They've got to follow the conductor, 'cause they know best. Like the
> one my gf told me about a while ago (she sings in an opera choir in
> Austria) during rehearsals who was conducting a 7/4 time piece. "no,
> no" he scolded the choir, "it's one, two, three, four, five, six,
> sev-ven".
That guy's inability to count 7/4 notwithstanding,
actually, orchestra players have to follow their
own sense of internal rhythm. From soloist to
thousand voice choir, each muso has to have
the internal rhythm happening first before they
try and match the rest of the group.
Conductors, particularly from the Vienna school
of conducting, are deliberately in front of or
behind the beat. They are not "tapping their foot"
to REPLACE the internal rhythm of each player.
They are "tapping their foot" along with everyone
else in the ensemble.
IF the players were to hang on every ictus of the
conductor's baton, they would tend to lag. It's the
same phenomenom when small combo players watch each
other too much. Each tiny timing error is compounded
by the "watcher" trying to match the error, then the
"watched" trys to compensate and it's a downward spiral.
The players have to "feel" and "anticipate" where the
beats fall. They shouldn't be watching the baton to
know where every beat happens.
Lumpy
In Your Ears for 40 Years
www .LumpyMusic,com
Lump:
> > Orchestra players are strongly and specifically
> > directed NOT to tap their feet.
Tim C.:
> They've got to follow the conductor, 'cause they know best. Like the
> one my gf told me about a while ago (she sings in an opera choir in
> Austria) during rehearsals who was conducting a 7/4 time piece. "no,
> no" he scolded the choir, "it's one, two, three, four, five, six,
> sev-ven".
That guy's inability to count 7/4 notwithstanding,
actually, orchestra players have to follow their
own sense of internal rhythm. From soloist to
thousand voice choir, each muso has to have
the internal rhythm happening first before they
try and match the rest of the group.
Conductors, particularly from the Vienna school
of conducting, are deliberately in front of or
behind the beat. They are not "tapping their foot"
to REPLACE the internal rhythm of each player.
They are "tapping their foot" along with everyone
else in the ensemble.
IF the players were to hang on every ictus of the
conductor's baton, they would tend to lag. It's the
same phenomenom when small combo players watch each
other too much. Each tiny timing error is compounded
by the "watcher" trying to match the error, then the
"watched" trys to compensate and it's a downward spiral.
The players have to "feel" and "anticipate" where the
beats fall. They shouldn't be watching the baton to
know where every beat happens.
Lumpy
In Your Ears for 40 Years
www .LumpyMusic,com
Re: I hate log posts
On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 08:12:43 -0700, Lumpy wrote:
> Conductors, particularly from the Vienna school
> of conducting, are deliberately in front of or
> behind the beat. They are not "tapping their foot"
> to REPLACE the internal rhythm of each player.
> They are "tapping their foot" along with everyone
> else in the ensemble.
From what I've heard from the singers and orchestra, no-one really pays
them much attention anyway.
--
Tim C.
On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 08:12:43 -0700, Lumpy wrote:
> Conductors, particularly from the Vienna school
> of conducting, are deliberately in front of or
> behind the beat. They are not "tapping their foot"
> to REPLACE the internal rhythm of each player.
> They are "tapping their foot" along with everyone
> else in the ensemble.
From what I've heard from the singers and orchestra, no-one really pays
them much attention anyway.
--
Tim C.
Re: I hate long posts
On Apr 7, 7:20 am, "Tim C." <timchallen...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 07:08:27 -0700, Lumpy wrote:
> > Orchestra players are strongly and specifically
> > directed NOT to tap their feet.
>
> They've got to follow the conductor, 'cause they know best. Like the one my
> gf told me about a while ago (she sings in an opera choir in Austria)
> during rehearsals who was conducting a 7/4 time piece. "no, no" he scolded
> the choir, "it's one, two, three, four, five, six, sev-ven".
>
> --
> Tim C.
Another interesting point for a shosrt post thread:
Not all things fall into equal beats. Western music is mush so, but
as my first intrument was sitar. I not only learned 1 string (vs
cords) but rhythmic patterns vs 4/4 beats etc. Some things need a
"Dance " if you will, not just a thump thump thump thump ( I don't
know how to explain it). ed s.
On Apr 7, 7:20 am, "Tim C." <timchallen...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 07:08:27 -0700, Lumpy wrote:
> > Orchestra players are strongly and specifically
> > directed NOT to tap their feet.
>
> They've got to follow the conductor, 'cause they know best. Like the one my
> gf told me about a while ago (she sings in an opera choir in Austria)
> during rehearsals who was conducting a 7/4 time piece. "no, no" he scolded
> the choir, "it's one, two, three, four, five, six, sev-ven".
>
> --
> Tim C.
Another interesting point for a shosrt post thread:
Not all things fall into equal beats. Western music is mush so, but
as my first intrument was sitar. I not only learned 1 string (vs
cords) but rhythmic patterns vs 4/4 beats etc. Some things need a
"Dance " if you will, not just a thump thump thump thump ( I don't
know how to explain it). ed s.
Re: I hate long posts
On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 18:20:03 -0700 (PDT), Pt <peatea@yahoo,com > wrote:
>So I'll keep it short.
>
>TAP YOUR FOOT!
>
>Pt
I like one word ansers to go with those posts...damn!!!
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On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 18:20:03 -0700 (PDT), Pt <peatea@yahoo,com > wrote:
>So I'll keep it short.
>
>TAP YOUR FOOT!
>
>Pt
I like one word ansers to go with those posts...damn!!!
*********The softer side of JTees4*******
http :// www .soundclick,com /bands/default.cfm?bandID=819923
