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Can someone explain what "modeling", or "modeling guitars" are?
I hear the term tossed around a lot, but I've never heard an explanation
of what it is.
Thanks!
Can someone explain what "modeling", or "modeling guitars" are?
I hear the term tossed around a lot, but I've never heard an explanation
of what it is.
Thanks!
Re: Modeling
On 19 Apr 2008, Tafkog <tafkog@some.server> wrote in
alt.guitar.beginner:
> Can someone explain what "modeling", or "modeling guitars" are?
> I hear the term tossed around a lot, but I've never heard an
> explanation of what it is.
"Modeling" in this context means "simulating", usually by digital
computer technology. There are a number of boxes that model a miked
amplifier, usually with a bunch of popular effects built-in - the most
well-known of which is the Line6 POD:
* line6 . com /products/pod/
There are also now available some guitars that have circuitry inside
them that makes them sound remarkably like other kinds of guitars. For
example, the one 6-string solidbody electric guitar can sound like a
12-string electric, an steelstring acoustic, a hollowbody electric,
etc. They can output different tunings, regardless of how you have it
tuned. Line 6 seems to be in the forefront of that kind of product with
their Variax line:
* line6 . com /variax/
None of these devices sound or respond to your playing quite like the
real thing. But they do give you a wide variety of sounds in a small
package.
On 19 Apr 2008, Tafkog <tafkog@some.server> wrote in
alt.guitar.beginner:
> Can someone explain what "modeling", or "modeling guitars" are?
> I hear the term tossed around a lot, but I've never heard an
> explanation of what it is.
"Modeling" in this context means "simulating", usually by digital
computer technology. There are a number of boxes that model a miked
amplifier, usually with a bunch of popular effects built-in - the most
well-known of which is the Line6 POD:
* line6 . com /products/pod/
There are also now available some guitars that have circuitry inside
them that makes them sound remarkably like other kinds of guitars. For
example, the one 6-string solidbody electric guitar can sound like a
12-string electric, an steelstring acoustic, a hollowbody electric,
etc. They can output different tunings, regardless of how you have it
tuned. Line 6 seems to be in the forefront of that kind of product with
their Variax line:
* line6 . com /variax/
None of these devices sound or respond to your playing quite like the
real thing. But they do give you a wide variety of sounds in a small
package.
Re: Modeling
Tafkog wrote:
> Can someone explain what "modeling", or "modeling guitars" are?
> I hear the term tossed around a lot, but I've never heard an explanation
> of what it is.
>
> Thanks!
>
Google would have told you.
here's an example:
* w w w .zzounds . com /item--LINVA300S
--
Stephen
Ballina, Australia
Tafkog wrote:
> Can someone explain what "modeling", or "modeling guitars" are?
> I hear the term tossed around a lot, but I've never heard an explanation
> of what it is.
>
> Thanks!
>
Google would have told you.
here's an example:
* w w w .zzounds . com /item--LINVA300S
--
Stephen
Ballina, Australia
Re: Modeling
The above explainations are correct, but just to go a bit further, the
Line 6 guys are kinda geeky.
They gathered many very popular models of amps, both new and vintage,
and studied them from every angle they could figure out.
Mearsuing various electrical responses, and captured this data, and
tried to put this in a digital format.
Cool idea, because in the case of their amps, who can afford, or want
to tote around a Vox AC30, Fender Bassman, Marshall JMP, and Boogie
Rectifier?
While they don't nail them exactly, they get pretty close. I look
forward to this technology evolving as the years go by.
The above explainations are correct, but just to go a bit further, the
Line 6 guys are kinda geeky.
They gathered many very popular models of amps, both new and vintage,
and studied them from every angle they could figure out.
Mearsuing various electrical responses, and captured this data, and
tried to put this in a digital format.
Cool idea, because in the case of their amps, who can afford, or want
to tote around a Vox AC30, Fender Bassman, Marshall JMP, and Boogie
Rectifier?
While they don't nail them exactly, they get pretty close. I look
forward to this technology evolving as the years go by.
Re: Modeling
On 20 Apr, 19:23, Derek <de...@ycoaoffice . com > wrote:
> The above explainations are correct, but just to go a bit further, the
> Line 6 guys are kinda geeky.
>
> They gathered many very popular models of amps, both new and vintage,
> and studied them from every angle they could figure out.
>
> Mearsuing various electrical responses, and captured this data, and
> tried to put this in a digital format.
>
> Cool idea, because in the case of their amps, who can afford, or want
> to tote around a Vox AC30, Fender Bassman, Marshall JMP, and Boogie
> Rectifier?
>
> While they don't nail them exactly, they get pretty close. I look
> forward to this technology evolving as the years go by.
I'm with you on that. IMO modelling has got to be the way to go for
home use. Nothing beats it for getting the sound of a cranked amp at
very low or headphone volume.
My little box contains simulations of amps I've never been in the same
room as so, now I want to know if a real Matchless sounds as good as
the sim!
Cliff
On 20 Apr, 19:23, Derek <de...@ycoaoffice . com > wrote:
> The above explainations are correct, but just to go a bit further, the
> Line 6 guys are kinda geeky.
>
> They gathered many very popular models of amps, both new and vintage,
> and studied them from every angle they could figure out.
>
> Mearsuing various electrical responses, and captured this data, and
> tried to put this in a digital format.
>
> Cool idea, because in the case of their amps, who can afford, or want
> to tote around a Vox AC30, Fender Bassman, Marshall JMP, and Boogie
> Rectifier?
>
> While they don't nail them exactly, they get pretty close. I look
> forward to this technology evolving as the years go by.
I'm with you on that. IMO modelling has got to be the way to go for
home use. Nothing beats it for getting the sound of a cranked amp at
very low or headphone volume.
My little box contains simulations of amps I've never been in the same
room as so, now I want to know if a real Matchless sounds as good as
the sim!
Cliff
Re: Modeling
Cliff wrote:
> My little box contains simulations of amps I've never been in the same
> room as so, now I want to know if a real Matchless sounds as good as
> the sim!
>
I played a used Matchless Chieftan a few years back and it was pretty
sweet.
The one amp simulation I really want, my POD/Atomic combo doesn't do
very well, and that is a Dumble.
I ordered a clone, 50 watt, 2 channel with 6L6 tubes. Pt would be
proud.
I am going for a Larry Carlton/Robben Ford sort of sound. $1000
delivered out of Malaysia.
Ceriatone is the company. Good reputation, nice guy named Nik who
runs it. Be here end of next month.
Bad news is, I have to start collecting pedals again. Wah, Delay, and
some sort of gain boost.
Here is a demo vid if interested.
* w w w .youtube . com /watch?v=QwW3ZbnI6Cw
Cliff wrote:
> My little box contains simulations of amps I've never been in the same
> room as so, now I want to know if a real Matchless sounds as good as
> the sim!
>
I played a used Matchless Chieftan a few years back and it was pretty
sweet.
The one amp simulation I really want, my POD/Atomic combo doesn't do
very well, and that is a Dumble.
I ordered a clone, 50 watt, 2 channel with 6L6 tubes. Pt would be
proud.
I am going for a Larry Carlton/Robben Ford sort of sound. $1000
delivered out of Malaysia.
Ceriatone is the company. Good reputation, nice guy named Nik who
runs it. Be here end of next month.
Bad news is, I have to start collecting pedals again. Wah, Delay, and
some sort of gain boost.
Here is a demo vid if interested.
* w w w .youtube . com /watch?v=QwW3ZbnI6Cw
Re: Modeling
On 21 Apr, 15:31, Derek <de...@ycoaoffice . com > wrote:
> Cliff wrote:
> > My little box contains simulations of amps I've never been in the same
> > room as so, now I want to know if a real Matchless sounds as good as
> > the sim!
>
> I played a used Matchless Chieftan a few years back and it was pretty
> sweet.
>
> The one amp simulation I really want, my POD/Atomic combo doesn't do
> very well, and that is a Dumble.
>
> I ordered a clone, 50 watt, 2 channel with 6L6 tubes. Pt would be
> proud.
>
> I am going for a Larry Carlton/Robben Ford sort of sound. $1000
> delivered out of Malaysia.
>
> Ceriatone is the company. Good reputation, nice guy named Nik who
> runs it. Be here end of next month.
>
> Bad news is, I have to start collecting pedals again. Wah, Delay, and
> some sort of gain boost.
>
> Here is a demo vid if interested.
>
> * w w w .youtube . com /watch?v=QwW3ZbnI6Cw
Sounds very nice. Versatile without being covered with knobs. The Jazz
lead sound with the mid boost seems to be heading towards a smooth
Larry Carlton tone. If I got another tube amp I'd certainly be looking
for a 6L6 design. To my ears they seem to offer a bit more clarity.
Good luck with the amp, Cliff
On 21 Apr, 15:31, Derek <de...@ycoaoffice . com > wrote:
> Cliff wrote:
> > My little box contains simulations of amps I've never been in the same
> > room as so, now I want to know if a real Matchless sounds as good as
> > the sim!
>
> I played a used Matchless Chieftan a few years back and it was pretty
> sweet.
>
> The one amp simulation I really want, my POD/Atomic combo doesn't do
> very well, and that is a Dumble.
>
> I ordered a clone, 50 watt, 2 channel with 6L6 tubes. Pt would be
> proud.
>
> I am going for a Larry Carlton/Robben Ford sort of sound. $1000
> delivered out of Malaysia.
>
> Ceriatone is the company. Good reputation, nice guy named Nik who
> runs it. Be here end of next month.
>
> Bad news is, I have to start collecting pedals again. Wah, Delay, and
> some sort of gain boost.
>
> Here is a demo vid if interested.
>
> * w w w .youtube . com /watch?v=QwW3ZbnI6Cw
Sounds very nice. Versatile without being covered with knobs. The Jazz
lead sound with the mid boost seems to be heading towards a smooth
Larry Carlton tone. If I got another tube amp I'd certainly be looking
for a 6L6 design. To my ears they seem to offer a bit more clarity.
Good luck with the amp, Cliff
