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Desi Serna
Has anyone here purchased Desi Serna's Books and/or DVD's?
If so, what do you think of them?
Has anyone here purchased Desi Serna's Books and/or DVD's?
If so, what do you think of them?
Re: Desi Serna
On Apr 20, 12:00 pm, Mitch@ . wrote:
> Has anyone here purchased Desi Serna's Books and/or DVD's?
>
> If so, what do you think of them?
I bought the "Modes" DVD and was put off by his statement that all
other ways to look at modes are wrong and to forget them. His
explanation of modes is from a different perspective and may 'click'
for some people where other perspectives didn't. I found it to be OK
but will sell it at the next purge of DVDs/Books.
Mike
On Apr 20, 12:00 pm, Mitch@ . wrote:
> Has anyone here purchased Desi Serna's Books and/or DVD's?
>
> If so, what do you think of them?
I bought the "Modes" DVD and was put off by his statement that all
other ways to look at modes are wrong and to forget them. His
explanation of modes is from a different perspective and may 'click'
for some people where other perspectives didn't. I found it to be OK
but will sell it at the next purge of DVDs/Books.
Mike
Re: Desi Serna
On Apr 22, 7:40 pm, MikeA <mjamund...@gmail . com > wrote:
> On Apr 20, 12:00 pm, Mitch@ . wrote:
>
> > Has anyone here purchased Desi Serna's Books and/or DVD's?
>
> > If so, what do you think of them?
>
> I bought the "Modes" DVD and was put off by his statement that all
> other ways to look at modes are wrong and to forget them. His
> explanation of modes is from a different perspective and may 'click'
> for some people where other perspectives didn't. I found it to be OK
> but will sell it at the next purge of DVDs/Books.
>
> Mike
Hi Mike,
I am an intermadiate player and bought Desi's dvds on an impulse
thinking they would be like the other tutorial dvds I have. Nothing
could be further from the truth. I found Desi's lessons to be
excellent in every way. His teaching is methodical with clear
explanations whilst he does not assume you a high degree of knowledge
(unlike many other tutorials). There are no missing links and, for
me, Desi's lessons have helped me learn more in weeks than I would
hope to learn in several months. Desi's dvds are superb both in value
and information.
Brian
On Apr 22, 7:40 pm, MikeA <mjamund...@gmail . com > wrote:
> On Apr 20, 12:00 pm, Mitch@ . wrote:
>
> > Has anyone here purchased Desi Serna's Books and/or DVD's?
>
> > If so, what do you think of them?
>
> I bought the "Modes" DVD and was put off by his statement that all
> other ways to look at modes are wrong and to forget them. His
> explanation of modes is from a different perspective and may 'click'
> for some people where other perspectives didn't. I found it to be OK
> but will sell it at the next purge of DVDs/Books.
>
> Mike
Hi Mike,
I am an intermadiate player and bought Desi's dvds on an impulse
thinking they would be like the other tutorial dvds I have. Nothing
could be further from the truth. I found Desi's lessons to be
excellent in every way. His teaching is methodical with clear
explanations whilst he does not assume you a high degree of knowledge
(unlike many other tutorials). There are no missing links and, for
me, Desi's lessons have helped me learn more in weeks than I would
hope to learn in several months. Desi's dvds are superb both in value
and information.
Brian
Re: Desi Serna
expounded in news:0c248720-4fb7-4fed-b897-e36c0b558973
@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups . com :
> On Apr 22, 7:40 pm, MikeA <mjamund...@gmail . com > wrote:
>> On Apr 20, 12:00 pm, Mitch@_._ wrote:
>>
>> > Has anyone here purchased Desi Serna's Books and/or DVD's?
>>
>> > If so, what do you think of them?
>>
>> I bought the "Modes" DVD and was put off by his statement that all
>> other ways to look at modes are wrong and to forget them. His
>> explanation of modes is from a different perspective and may 'click'
>> for some people where other perspectives didn't. I found it to be OK
>> but will sell it at the next purge of DVDs/Books.
>>
>> Mike
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I am an intermadiate player and bought Desi's dvds on an impulse
> thinking they would be like the other tutorial dvds I have. Nothing
Pul-ease. Give this a rest! Even sheep
and lemmings see through this.
Snark.
** Posted from * w w w .teranews . com **
expounded in news:0c248720-4fb7-4fed-b897-e36c0b558973
@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups . com :
> On Apr 22, 7:40 pm, MikeA <mjamund...@gmail . com > wrote:
>> On Apr 20, 12:00 pm, Mitch@_._ wrote:
>>
>> > Has anyone here purchased Desi Serna's Books and/or DVD's?
>>
>> > If so, what do you think of them?
>>
>> I bought the "Modes" DVD and was put off by his statement that all
>> other ways to look at modes are wrong and to forget them. His
>> explanation of modes is from a different perspective and may 'click'
>> for some people where other perspectives didn't. I found it to be OK
>> but will sell it at the next purge of DVDs/Books.
>>
>> Mike
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I am an intermadiate player and bought Desi's dvds on an impulse
> thinking they would be like the other tutorial dvds I have. Nothing
Pul-ease. Give this a rest! Even sheep
and lemmings see through this.
Snark.
** Posted from * w w w .teranews . com **
Re: Desi Serna
On Apr 26, 5:15 am, bmogf...@btinternet . com wrote:
> On Apr 22, 7:40 pm, MikeA <mjamund...@gmail . com > wrote:
>
> > On Apr 20, 12:00 pm, Mitch@ . wrote:
>
> > > Has anyone here purchased Desi Serna's Books and/or DVD's?
>
> > > If so, what do you think of them?
>
> > I bought the "Modes" DVD and was put off by his statement that all
> > other ways to look at modes are wrong and to forget them. His
> > explanation of modes is from a different perspective and may 'click'
> > for some people where other perspectives didn't. I found it to be OK
> > but will sell it at the next purge of DVDs/Books.
>
> > Mike
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I am an intermadiate player and bought Desi's dvds on an impulse
> thinking they would be like the other tutorial dvds I have. Nothing
> could be further from the truth. I found Desi's lessons to be
> excellent in every way. His teaching is methodical with clear
> explanations whilst he does not assume you a high degree of knowledge
> (unlike many other tutorials). There are no missing links and, for
> me, Desi's lessons have helped me learn more in weeks than I would
> hope to learn in several months. Desi's dvds are superb both in value
> and information.
>
> Brian
Great, glad you loved them. I didn't. Wanna buy my copy of "Modes" for
what I paid for it?
There is a great deal of diversity in the world and I have a hard time
believing there is one universal method/DVD/Book that every aspiring
guitar player will find works for them. Given that, I realize that
when I purchased any guitar related instructional material that it
might not work for me but I can probably recoup part of the cost by
selling it someone else. I'm not upset that the DVD didn't speak to
me, I am a bit perturbed that I did business with a spammer. I think
I'll leave some negative feedback on Amazon . com (where I bought my
copy) about the spam.
I found that Gambale's Modes DVD was a better fit for me, his cleared
up my understanding of a statement Serna made but didn't explain. YMMV.
On Apr 26, 5:15 am, bmogf...@btinternet . com wrote:
> On Apr 22, 7:40 pm, MikeA <mjamund...@gmail . com > wrote:
>
> > On Apr 20, 12:00 pm, Mitch@ . wrote:
>
> > > Has anyone here purchased Desi Serna's Books and/or DVD's?
>
> > > If so, what do you think of them?
>
> > I bought the "Modes" DVD and was put off by his statement that all
> > other ways to look at modes are wrong and to forget them. His
> > explanation of modes is from a different perspective and may 'click'
> > for some people where other perspectives didn't. I found it to be OK
> > but will sell it at the next purge of DVDs/Books.
>
> > Mike
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I am an intermadiate player and bought Desi's dvds on an impulse
> thinking they would be like the other tutorial dvds I have. Nothing
> could be further from the truth. I found Desi's lessons to be
> excellent in every way. His teaching is methodical with clear
> explanations whilst he does not assume you a high degree of knowledge
> (unlike many other tutorials). There are no missing links and, for
> me, Desi's lessons have helped me learn more in weeks than I would
> hope to learn in several months. Desi's dvds are superb both in value
> and information.
>
> Brian
Great, glad you loved them. I didn't. Wanna buy my copy of "Modes" for
what I paid for it?
There is a great deal of diversity in the world and I have a hard time
believing there is one universal method/DVD/Book that every aspiring
guitar player will find works for them. Given that, I realize that
when I purchased any guitar related instructional material that it
might not work for me but I can probably recoup part of the cost by
selling it someone else. I'm not upset that the DVD didn't speak to
me, I am a bit perturbed that I did business with a spammer. I think
I'll leave some negative feedback on Amazon . com (where I bought my
copy) about the spam.
I found that Gambale's Modes DVD was a better fit for me, his cleared
up my understanding of a statement Serna made but didn't explain. YMMV.
Re: Modsi Gambla
MikeA wrote:
> I found that Gambale's Modes DVD was
> a better fit for me, his cleared
> up my understanding of a statement
> Serna made but didn't explain.
Could you share?
Lumpy
In Your Ears for 40 Years
w w w .LumpyMusic . com
MikeA wrote:
> I found that Gambale's Modes DVD was
> a better fit for me, his cleared
> up my understanding of a statement
> Serna made but didn't explain.
Could you share?
Lumpy
In Your Ears for 40 Years
w w w .LumpyMusic . com
Re: Modsi Gambla
On May 1, 11:49 am, "Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography . com > wrote:
> MikeA wrote:
> > I found that Gambale's Modes DVD was
> > a better fit for me, his cleared
> > up my understanding of a statement
> > Serna made but didn't explain.
>
> Could you share?
>
> Lumpy
>
> In Your Ears for 40 Years
> w w w .LumpyMusic . com
What I heard Serna say was something like "For any mode, it doesn't
matter what note you start or end on, you are playing that mode" but
didn't explain why that was true. Despite watching the DVD a few times
I still didn't get it because I was stuck with the incorrect notion
that the mode was defined by the starting/ending note.
Gambale compared C-Ionian to C-Dorian and the light went on over my
head.
Even though I may be a dimwit for not understanding what Serna was
trying to say, I think it illustrates that different people see/hear/
learn differently and one persons excellent DVD may be crap for the
next guy and vice-versa.
Your question helped me notice that in my post I did what I dinged
Serna for, made a statement without explaining the 'why' behind it.
mea culpa. Thanks, I appreciate the subtle hint to examine my own
post. It's not an excuse but spammers who imply/argue my opinion of
somethings value to me is wrong annoy me to the point that my thinking
is clouded.
On May 1, 11:49 am, "Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography . com > wrote:
> MikeA wrote:
> > I found that Gambale's Modes DVD was
> > a better fit for me, his cleared
> > up my understanding of a statement
> > Serna made but didn't explain.
>
> Could you share?
>
> Lumpy
>
> In Your Ears for 40 Years
> w w w .LumpyMusic . com
What I heard Serna say was something like "For any mode, it doesn't
matter what note you start or end on, you are playing that mode" but
didn't explain why that was true. Despite watching the DVD a few times
I still didn't get it because I was stuck with the incorrect notion
that the mode was defined by the starting/ending note.
Gambale compared C-Ionian to C-Dorian and the light went on over my
head.
Even though I may be a dimwit for not understanding what Serna was
trying to say, I think it illustrates that different people see/hear/
learn differently and one persons excellent DVD may be crap for the
next guy and vice-versa.
Your question helped me notice that in my post I did what I dinged
Serna for, made a statement without explaining the 'why' behind it.
mea culpa. Thanks, I appreciate the subtle hint to examine my own
post. It's not an excuse but spammers who imply/argue my opinion of
somethings value to me is wrong annoy me to the point that my thinking
is clouded.
Re: Modsi Gambla
MikeA wrote:
> Gambale compared C-Ionian to C-Dorian
> and the light went on over my head...
Elaborate please? I've read some of Frank's
stuff and it's not particularly easy to
understand, for me at least.
> Your question helped me notice that in my post I did what I dinged
> Serna for, made a statement without explaining the 'why' behind it.
> mea culpa. Thanks, I appreciate the subtle hint to examine my own
> post...
I wasn't trying to cheese you or anything.
I'm honestly curious about Gambo's explaination.
I'm not really a huge fan of his playing,
but he's pretty famous for thinking in modes.
Lumpy
In Your Ears for 40 Years
w w w .LumpyMusic . com
MikeA wrote:
> Gambale compared C-Ionian to C-Dorian
> and the light went on over my head...
Elaborate please? I've read some of Frank's
stuff and it's not particularly easy to
understand, for me at least.
> Your question helped me notice that in my post I did what I dinged
> Serna for, made a statement without explaining the 'why' behind it.
> mea culpa. Thanks, I appreciate the subtle hint to examine my own
> post...
I wasn't trying to cheese you or anything.
I'm honestly curious about Gambo's explaination.
I'm not really a huge fan of his playing,
but he's pretty famous for thinking in modes.
Lumpy
In Your Ears for 40 Years
w w w .LumpyMusic . com
Re: Modsi Gambla
On May 1, 7:30 pm, "Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography . com > wrote:
> MikeA wrote:
> > Gambale compared C-Ionian to C-Dorian
> > and the light went on over my head...
>
> Elaborate please? I've read some of Frank's
> stuff and it's not particularly easy to
> understand, for me at least.
>
> > Your question helped me notice that in my post I did what I dinged
> > Serna for, made a statement without explaining the 'why' behind it.
> > mea culpa. Thanks, I appreciate the subtle hint to examine my own
> > post...
>
> I wasn't trying to cheese you or anything.
> I'm honestly curious about Gambo's explaination.
> I'm not really a huge fan of his playing,
> but he's pretty famous for thinking in modes.
>
> Lumpy
>
> In Your Ears for 40 Years
> w w w .LumpyMusic . com
Many of the explanations of modes seem to me to describe a mode in a
way that implies that, by definition, the mode is defined by the
starting and ending note. i.e. G Ionian is G to G and A dorian is A to
A of the G major scale etc through the modes. Rather than holding the
scale constant and comparing the modes, Gambo held the starting note
constant, progressed through the modes and examined the resulting
change in scales. C-Dorian has F# rather than the F-nat of C-Ionian.
That approach to the explanation, always starting on the same note,
emphasized to me the role the scale plays in defining the mode.
It's possible that had Gambo's approach been the one I saw first that
I wouldn't have understood it either until I saw it in contrast with
what I think is the more conventional approach to explaining modes.
I've not seen enough of Frank's stuff to know whether I'll find it
generally more or less understandable for me than other approaches.
I hope that was coherent. I've been up for 20 hours and the grey
matter seems to be more sluggish than usual.
On May 1, 7:30 pm, "Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography . com > wrote:
> MikeA wrote:
> > Gambale compared C-Ionian to C-Dorian
> > and the light went on over my head...
>
> Elaborate please? I've read some of Frank's
> stuff and it's not particularly easy to
> understand, for me at least.
>
> > Your question helped me notice that in my post I did what I dinged
> > Serna for, made a statement without explaining the 'why' behind it.
> > mea culpa. Thanks, I appreciate the subtle hint to examine my own
> > post...
>
> I wasn't trying to cheese you or anything.
> I'm honestly curious about Gambo's explaination.
> I'm not really a huge fan of his playing,
> but he's pretty famous for thinking in modes.
>
> Lumpy
>
> In Your Ears for 40 Years
> w w w .LumpyMusic . com
Many of the explanations of modes seem to me to describe a mode in a
way that implies that, by definition, the mode is defined by the
starting and ending note. i.e. G Ionian is G to G and A dorian is A to
A of the G major scale etc through the modes. Rather than holding the
scale constant and comparing the modes, Gambo held the starting note
constant, progressed through the modes and examined the resulting
change in scales. C-Dorian has F# rather than the F-nat of C-Ionian.
That approach to the explanation, always starting on the same note,
emphasized to me the role the scale plays in defining the mode.
It's possible that had Gambo's approach been the one I saw first that
I wouldn't have understood it either until I saw it in contrast with
what I think is the more conventional approach to explaining modes.
I've not seen enough of Frank's stuff to know whether I'll find it
generally more or less understandable for me than other approaches.
I hope that was coherent. I've been up for 20 hours and the grey
matter seems to be more sluggish than usual.
Re: Desi Serna
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:00:07 GMT, Mitch@_._ wrote:
>Has anyone here purchased Desi Serna's Books and/or DVD's?
>
>If so, what do you think of them?
I bought the book and the DVDs.
I thought it was a waste of money,
Flamencoman
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:00:07 GMT, Mitch@_._ wrote:
>Has anyone here purchased Desi Serna's Books and/or DVD's?
>
>If so, what do you think of them?
I bought the book and the DVDs.
I thought it was a waste of money,
Flamencoman
Re: Desi Serna
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:07:22 -0700, Flamencoman
<flamencoman@earthlink . net > wrote:
>On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:00:07 GMT, Mitch@_._ wrote:
>
>>Has anyone here purchased Desi Serna's Books and/or DVD's?
>>
>>If so, what do you think of them?
>I bought the book and the DVDs.
>
>I thought it was a waste of money,
>
>Flamencoman
Do you want to sell them?
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:07:22 -0700, Flamencoman
<flamencoman@earthlink . net > wrote:
>On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:00:07 GMT, Mitch@_._ wrote:
>
>>Has anyone here purchased Desi Serna's Books and/or DVD's?
>>
>>If so, what do you think of them?
>I bought the book and the DVDs.
>
>I thought it was a waste of money,
>
>Flamencoman
Do you want to sell them?
Re: Desi Serna
On Apr 23, 8:05 am, Mitch@ . wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:07:22 -0700, Flamencoman
>
> <flamenco...@earthlink . net > wrote:
> >On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:00:07 GMT, Mitch@ . wrote:
>
> >>Has anyone here purchased Desi Serna's Books and/or DVD's?
>
> >>If so, what do you think of them?
> >I bought the book and the DVDs.
>
> >I thought it was a waste of money,
>
> >Flamencoman
>
> Do you want to sell them?
I have purchased the fretboard theory book and am following along with
it and the website to learn. I am a beginner and am finding this
extremely useful. Also listening to the podcasts and seeing him play
on youtube have been great. check him out on youtube, especially when
he plays, no woman no cry, amazing. My guitar teacher is teaching the
same way the book is written.
On Apr 23, 8:05 am, Mitch@ . wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:07:22 -0700, Flamencoman
>
> <flamenco...@earthlink . net > wrote:
> >On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:00:07 GMT, Mitch@ . wrote:
>
> >>Has anyone here purchased Desi Serna's Books and/or DVD's?
>
> >>If so, what do you think of them?
> >I bought the book and the DVDs.
>
> >I thought it was a waste of money,
>
> >Flamencoman
>
> Do you want to sell them?
I have purchased the fretboard theory book and am following along with
it and the website to learn. I am a beginner and am finding this
extremely useful. Also listening to the podcasts and seeing him play
on youtube have been great. check him out on youtube, especially when
he plays, no woman no cry, amazing. My guitar teacher is teaching the
same way the book is written.
Re: Desi Serna
On Apr 25, 8:25 am, fonzo <astutzm...@gmail . com > wrote:
> On Apr 23, 8:05 am, Mitch@ . wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:07:22 -0700, Flamencoman
>
> > <flamenco...@earthlink . net > wrote:
> > >On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:00:07 GMT, Mitch@ . wrote:
>
> > >>Has anyone here purchased Desi Serna's Books and/or DVD's?
>
> > >>If so, what do you think of them?
> > >I bought the book and the DVDs.
>
> > >I thought it was a waste of money,
>
> > >Flamencoman
>
> > Do you want to sell them?
>
> I have purchased the fretboard theory book and am following along with
> it and the website to learn. I am a beginner and am finding this
> extremely useful. Also listening to the podcasts and seeing him play
> on youtube have been great. check him out on youtube, especially when
> he plays, no woman no cry, amazing. My guitar teacher is teaching the
> same way the book is written.
I purchased both the fretboard theory book and Getting started with
the pentatonic scale DVD at * Guitar-Music-Theory . com . I found
both to be the most useful teaching tools I have encountered. I have
been playing guitar a long time. I am able to play just about
anything I want, but I can't tell you how much these teaching tools
have improved my KNOWLEDGE of the symmetery(?) of the freatbaord. I
highly recommend Desi Sarna's teaching method!
On Apr 25, 8:25 am, fonzo <astutzm...@gmail . com > wrote:
> On Apr 23, 8:05 am, Mitch@ . wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:07:22 -0700, Flamencoman
>
> > <flamenco...@earthlink . net > wrote:
> > >On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:00:07 GMT, Mitch@ . wrote:
>
> > >>Has anyone here purchased Desi Serna's Books and/or DVD's?
>
> > >>If so, what do you think of them?
> > >I bought the book and the DVDs.
>
> > >I thought it was a waste of money,
>
> > >Flamencoman
>
> > Do you want to sell them?
>
> I have purchased the fretboard theory book and am following along with
> it and the website to learn. I am a beginner and am finding this
> extremely useful. Also listening to the podcasts and seeing him play
> on youtube have been great. check him out on youtube, especially when
> he plays, no woman no cry, amazing. My guitar teacher is teaching the
> same way the book is written.
I purchased both the fretboard theory book and Getting started with
the pentatonic scale DVD at * Guitar-Music-Theory . com . I found
both to be the most useful teaching tools I have encountered. I have
been playing guitar a long time. I am able to play just about
anything I want, but I can't tell you how much these teaching tools
have improved my KNOWLEDGE of the symmetery(?) of the freatbaord. I
highly recommend Desi Sarna's teaching method!
Re: Desi Serna
I have no idea who or what Desi Serna is.
But I find it curious that suddenly several
previously unheard of posters, with generic
email addresses, are posting testimonials.
Lumpy
In Your Ears for 40 Years
w w w .LumpyMusic . com
I have no idea who or what Desi Serna is.
But I find it curious that suddenly several
previously unheard of posters, with generic
email addresses, are posting testimonials.
Lumpy
In Your Ears for 40 Years
w w w .LumpyMusic . com
Re: Desi Serna
>I have no idea who or what Desi Serna is.
>But I find it curious that suddenly several
>previously unheard of posters, with generic
>email addresses, are posting testimonials.
>
Pretty fishy.
But I read enough good reviews on Amazon to make it worth $20 to me.
>I have no idea who or what Desi Serna is.
>But I find it curious that suddenly several
>previously unheard of posters, with generic
>email addresses, are posting testimonials.
>
Pretty fishy.
But I read enough good reviews on Amazon to make it worth $20 to me.
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