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Rank Beginner's Question
As I look through a songbook I bought, I see some chords described as C/G or F/G
or F/C. No doubt there are several of them and they all seem clumsy to play.
How do you refer to them when you speak to another musician?
Is it "see slash gee" or "see gee" or is some other way to put it?
Is there an internet reference that goes into some detail with how to refer to
the more involved chord names, such as A7sus4?
--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr . com
As I look through a songbook I bought, I see some chords described as C/G or F/G
or F/C. No doubt there are several of them and they all seem clumsy to play.
How do you refer to them when you speak to another musician?
Is it "see slash gee" or "see gee" or is some other way to put it?
Is there an internet reference that goes into some detail with how to refer to
the more involved chord names, such as A7sus4?
--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr . com
Re: Rank Beginner's Question
On 23 Apr, 13:59, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <mschnerdatcarolina.rr . com >
wrote:
> As I look through a songbook I bought, I see some chords described as C/G =
or F/G
> or F/C. No doubt there are several of them and they all seem clumsy to =
play.
> How do you refer to them when you speak to another musician?
>
> Is it "see slash gee" or "see gee" or is some other way to put it?
>
> Is there an internet reference that goes into some detail with how to refe=
r to
> the more involved chord names, such as A7sus4?
>
> --
> Mortimer Schnerd, RN
> mschnerdatcarolina.rr . com
Hi,
C slash G would be understood but, probably better to call that "C
with a G bass". The first or top letter refers to the chord type
while, the second or lower letter tells you the bottom (or bass) note
of the chord.
If another instrument is playing the base line you can forget the note
under the slash. You usually see this type of notation where the music
contains a base run or some similar figure on the bass notes.
Cliff
On 23 Apr, 13:59, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <mschnerdatcarolina.rr . com >
wrote:
> As I look through a songbook I bought, I see some chords described as C/G =
or F/G
> or F/C. No doubt there are several of them and they all seem clumsy to =
play.
> How do you refer to them when you speak to another musician?
>
> Is it "see slash gee" or "see gee" or is some other way to put it?
>
> Is there an internet reference that goes into some detail with how to refe=
r to
> the more involved chord names, such as A7sus4?
>
> --
> Mortimer Schnerd, RN
> mschnerdatcarolina.rr . com
Hi,
C slash G would be understood but, probably better to call that "C
with a G bass". The first or top letter refers to the chord type
while, the second or lower letter tells you the bottom (or bass) note
of the chord.
If another instrument is playing the base line you can forget the note
under the slash. You usually see this type of notation where the music
contains a base run or some similar figure on the bass notes.
Cliff
Re: Rank Beginner's Question
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:59:14 -0400, Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
> As I look through a songbook I bought, I see some chords described as
> C/G or F/G or F/C. No doubt there are several of them and they all seem
> clumsy to play. How do you refer to them when you speak to another
> musician?
>
> Is it "see slash gee" or "see gee" or is some other way to put it?
>
> Is there an internet reference that goes into some detail with how to
> refer to the more involved chord names, such as A7sus4?
What is there to talk about that you have to refer to them at all?
C slash g is fine. Everybody knows it means g is the bass note.
Slash chords started in the 60's. It's the only good thing that's
happened to chord names since the 1950's. At long last people
are starting to use lower case for the bass:
A/g# / A/g / is better than
A/G# / A/G / IMO, and many agree with me. daveA
--
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:59:14 -0400, Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
> As I look through a songbook I bought, I see some chords described as
> C/G or F/G or F/C. No doubt there are several of them and they all seem
> clumsy to play. How do you refer to them when you speak to another
> musician?
>
> Is it "see slash gee" or "see gee" or is some other way to put it?
>
> Is there an internet reference that goes into some detail with how to
> refer to the more involved chord names, such as A7sus4?
What is there to talk about that you have to refer to them at all?
C slash g is fine. Everybody knows it means g is the bass note.
Slash chords started in the 60's. It's the only good thing that's
happened to chord names since the 1950's. At long last people
are starting to use lower case for the bass:
A/g# / A/g / is better than
A/G# / A/G / IMO, and many agree with me. daveA
--
email: darnold4@cox . net (put "poisonal" anywhere in subject)
DGT: The very best technical exercises for all guitarists:
* w w w .openguitar . com /dynamic.html. Original easy solos at:
* w w w .openguitar . com . :::=={_o) David Raleigh Arnold
Re: Rank Beginner's Question
David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
> A/g# / A/g / is better than
> A/G# / A/G / IMO, and many agree with me. daveA
>
Why? I think it looks ugly.
David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
> A/g# / A/g / is better than
> A/G# / A/G / IMO, and many agree with me. daveA
>
Why? I think it looks ugly.
Re: Rank Beginner's Question
Sean expounded in news:wGSPj.1870$XI1.247@edtnps91:
> David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
>
>> A/g# / A/g / is better than
>> A/G# / A/G / IMO, and many agree with me. daveA
>>
>
> Why? I think it looks ugly.
I think the MS Windows convention is worse:
A:\G# A:\G
Snark.
** Posted from * w w w .teranews . com **
Sean expounded in news:wGSPj.1870$XI1.247@edtnps91:
> David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
>
>> A/g# / A/g / is better than
>> A/G# / A/G / IMO, and many agree with me. daveA
>>
>
> Why? I think it looks ugly.
I think the MS Windows convention is worse:
A:\G# A:\G
Snark.
** Posted from * w w w .teranews . com **
Re: Rank Beginner's Question
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:57:32 +0000, Sean wrote:
> David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
>
>> A/g# / A/g / is better than
>> A/G# / A/G / IMO, and many agree with me. daveA
>>
>>
> Why? I think it looks ugly.
Because the slashes could also be slash repeats. daveA
--
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:57:32 +0000, Sean wrote:
> David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
>
>> A/g# / A/g / is better than
>> A/G# / A/G / IMO, and many agree with me. daveA
>>
>>
> Why? I think it looks ugly.
Because the slashes could also be slash repeats. daveA
--
email: darnold4@cox . net (put "poisonal" anywhere in subject)
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Re: Rank Beginner's Question
On 23 Apr 2008, David Raleigh Arnold <darnold4@cox . net > wrote in
alt.guitar.beginner:
> A/g# / A/g / is better than
> A/G# / A/G / IMO, and many agree with me. daveA
Who agrees with you? I've heard few, if anyone, ever discuss the issue.
On 23 Apr 2008, David Raleigh Arnold <darnold4@cox . net > wrote in
alt.guitar.beginner:
> A/g# / A/g / is better than
> A/G# / A/G / IMO, and many agree with me. daveA
Who agrees with you? I've heard few, if anyone, ever discuss the issue.
Re: Rank Beginner's Question
DRA:
> > A/g# / A/g / is better than
> > A/G# / A/G / IMO, and many agree with me.
Nil:
> Who agrees with you? I've heard few,
> if anyone, ever discuss the issue.
I too, have never heard of it as an issue.
The vast majority of charts I read in studios
or even in orchestra/combos are hand transcribed
and re-edited a bunch of times. Years of corrections
are pencil/ink/crayon'd in.
I'm not sure, but I don't think my notation
software allows lower case chord letters.
The jazz font that is typically used in
fake books does not contain lower case letters.
A/g in sloppy, fast handwriting looks like
A79 or A9 with a squiggle in it. Or if the / is
layed over closer to horizontal, it looks like a -.
That makes the chord A- (A minor) something.
I can't think of ever seeing the slash note
in lower case.
DRA:
> Slash chords started in the 60's.
I see them all over Glen Miller, Sammy Cahn,
Harold Arlen charts that were written and
transcribed 20+ years prior to the 60s.
Lumpy
In Your Ears for 40 Years
w w w .LumpyMusic . com
DRA:
> > A/g# / A/g / is better than
> > A/G# / A/G / IMO, and many agree with me.
Nil:
> Who agrees with you? I've heard few,
> if anyone, ever discuss the issue.
I too, have never heard of it as an issue.
The vast majority of charts I read in studios
or even in orchestra/combos are hand transcribed
and re-edited a bunch of times. Years of corrections
are pencil/ink/crayon'd in.
I'm not sure, but I don't think my notation
software allows lower case chord letters.
The jazz font that is typically used in
fake books does not contain lower case letters.
A/g in sloppy, fast handwriting looks like
A79 or A9 with a squiggle in it. Or if the / is
layed over closer to horizontal, it looks like a -.
That makes the chord A- (A minor) something.
I can't think of ever seeing the slash note
in lower case.
DRA:
> Slash chords started in the 60's.
I see them all over Glen Miller, Sammy Cahn,
Harold Arlen charts that were written and
transcribed 20+ years prior to the 60s.
Lumpy
In Your Ears for 40 Years
w w w .LumpyMusic . com
Re: Rank Beginner's Question
Lumpy expounded in news:67ajajF2o78urU1@mid.individual . net :
> I'm not sure, but I don't think my notation
> software allows lower case chord letters.
> The jazz font that is typically used in
> fake books does not contain lower case letters.
> Lumpy
Cool. I never knew there was a Jazz font. But
I see from * w w w .jazzfont . com that they
have a number of varieties.
It sure beats Courier.
Snark.
** Posted from * w w w .teranews . com **
Lumpy expounded in news:67ajajF2o78urU1@mid.individual . net :
> I'm not sure, but I don't think my notation
> software allows lower case chord letters.
> The jazz font that is typically used in
> fake books does not contain lower case letters.
> Lumpy
Cool. I never knew there was a Jazz font. But
I see from * w w w .jazzfont . com that they
have a number of varieties.
It sure beats Courier.
Snark.
** Posted from * w w w .teranews . com **
Re: Rank Beginner's Question
On 24 Apr 2008, Charmed Snark <snark@cogeco.ca> wrote in
alt.guitar.beginner:
> Cool. I never knew there was a Jazz font. But
> I see from * w w w .jazzfont . com that they
> have a number of varieties.
Interesting - somebody has turned the hand that wrote The Real Book
into a font! Somebody who must remain anonymous is getting famous! I
wonder who it is? I've heard rumors that it was Steve Swallow, but I'm
skeptical.
On 24 Apr 2008, Charmed Snark <snark@cogeco.ca> wrote in
alt.guitar.beginner:
> Cool. I never knew there was a Jazz font. But
> I see from * w w w .jazzfont . com that they
> have a number of varieties.
Interesting - somebody has turned the hand that wrote The Real Book
into a font! Somebody who must remain anonymous is getting famous! I
wonder who it is? I've heard rumors that it was Steve Swallow, but I'm
skeptical.
Re: Rank Beginner's Question
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:14:11 -0700, Lumpy wrote:
> DRA:
>> > A/g# / A/g / is better than
>> > A/G# / A/G / IMO, and many agree with me.
>
> Nil:
>> Who agrees with you? I've heard few,
>> if anyone, ever discuss the issue.
>
> I too, have never heard of it as an issue.
>
> The vast majority of charts I read in studios or even in
> orchestra/combos are hand transcribed and re-edited a bunch of times.
> Years of corrections are pencil/ink/crayon'd in.
>
> I'm not sure, but I don't think my notation software allows lower case
> chord letters. The jazz font that is typically used in fake books does
> not contain lower case letters.
>
> A/g in sloppy, fast handwriting looks like A79 or A9 with a squiggle in
> it. Or if the / is layed over closer to horizontal, it looks like a -.
> That makes the chord A- (A minor) something.
>
> I can't think of ever seeing the slash note in lower case.
>
> DRA:
>> Slash chords started in the 60's.
>
> I see them all over Glen Miller, Sammy Cahn, Harold Arlen charts that
> were written and transcribed 20+ years prior to the 60s.
Never saw it without the word "bass" before the 60's. Sheltered
life, I guess.
I've seen it on the net, but I no longer care a rat's ass whether
anyone else uses lower case or not. I think it is helpful to
beginners to use capitals for chords and small letters for notes,
so I do it.
daveA
--
email: darnold4@cox . net (put "poisonal" anywhere in subject)
DGT: The very best technical exercises for all guitarists:
* w w w .openguitar . com /dynamic.html. Original easy solos at:
* w w w .openguitar . com . :::=={_o) David Raleigh Arnold
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:14:11 -0700, Lumpy wrote:
> DRA:
>> > A/g# / A/g / is better than
>> > A/G# / A/G / IMO, and many agree with me.
>
> Nil:
>> Who agrees with you? I've heard few,
>> if anyone, ever discuss the issue.
>
> I too, have never heard of it as an issue.
>
> The vast majority of charts I read in studios or even in
> orchestra/combos are hand transcribed and re-edited a bunch of times.
> Years of corrections are pencil/ink/crayon'd in.
>
> I'm not sure, but I don't think my notation software allows lower case
> chord letters. The jazz font that is typically used in fake books does
> not contain lower case letters.
>
> A/g in sloppy, fast handwriting looks like A79 or A9 with a squiggle in
> it. Or if the / is layed over closer to horizontal, it looks like a -.
> That makes the chord A- (A minor) something.
>
> I can't think of ever seeing the slash note in lower case.
>
> DRA:
>> Slash chords started in the 60's.
>
> I see them all over Glen Miller, Sammy Cahn, Harold Arlen charts that
> were written and transcribed 20+ years prior to the 60s.
Never saw it without the word "bass" before the 60's. Sheltered
life, I guess.
I've seen it on the net, but I no longer care a rat's ass whether
anyone else uses lower case or not. I think it is helpful to
beginners to use capitals for chords and small letters for notes,
so I do it.
daveA
--
email: darnold4@cox . net (put "poisonal" anywhere in subject)
DGT: The very best technical exercises for all guitarists:
* w w w .openguitar . com /dynamic.html. Original easy solos at:
* w w w .openguitar . com . :::=={_o) David Raleigh Arnold
Re: Rank Beginner's Question
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:01:57 +1000, David Raleigh Arnold
<darnold4@cox . net > wrote:
> Never saw it without the word "bass" before the 60's. Sheltered
> life, I guess.
>
> I've seen it on the net, but I no longer care a rat's ass whether
> anyone else uses lower case or not. I think it is helpful to
> beginners to use capitals for chords and small letters for notes,
> so I do it.
> daveA
>
It's not helpful if the only place they see it is literature originating
from you. That will just lead to confusion for your beloved beginners.
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:01:57 +1000, David Raleigh Arnold
<darnold4@cox . net > wrote:
> Never saw it without the word "bass" before the 60's. Sheltered
> life, I guess.
>
> I've seen it on the net, but I no longer care a rat's ass whether
> anyone else uses lower case or not. I think it is helpful to
> beginners to use capitals for chords and small letters for notes,
> so I do it.
> daveA
>
It's not helpful if the only place they see it is literature originating
from you. That will just lead to confusion for your beloved beginners.
Re: Rank Beginner's Question
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:52:46 +1000, Stuzz wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:01:57 +1000, David Raleigh Arnold
> <darnold4@cox . net > wrote:
>
>> Never saw it without the word "bass" before the 60's. Sheltered life, I
>> guess.
>>
>> I've seen it on the net, but I no longer care a rat's ass whether
>> anyone else uses lower case or not. I think it is helpful to beginners
>> to use capitals for chords and small letters for notes, so I do it.
>> daveA
>>
>>
> It's not helpful if the only place they see it is literature originating
> from you. That will just lead to confusion for your beloved beginners.
I've seen it from others. daveA
--
email: darnold4@cox . net (put "poisonal" anywhere in subject)
DGT: The very best technical exercises for all guitarists:
* w w w .openguitar . com /dynamic.html. Original easy solos at:
* w w w .openguitar . com . :::=={_o) David Raleigh Arnold
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:52:46 +1000, Stuzz wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:01:57 +1000, David Raleigh Arnold
> <darnold4@cox . net > wrote:
>
>> Never saw it without the word "bass" before the 60's. Sheltered life, I
>> guess.
>>
>> I've seen it on the net, but I no longer care a rat's ass whether
>> anyone else uses lower case or not. I think it is helpful to beginners
>> to use capitals for chords and small letters for notes, so I do it.
>> daveA
>>
>>
> It's not helpful if the only place they see it is literature originating
> from you. That will just lead to confusion for your beloved beginners.
I've seen it from others. daveA
--
email: darnold4@cox . net (put "poisonal" anywhere in subject)
DGT: The very best technical exercises for all guitarists:
* w w w .openguitar . com /dynamic.html. Original easy solos at:
* w w w .openguitar . com . :::=={_o) David Raleigh Arnold
Re: Rank Beginner's Question
David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
> What is there to talk about that you have to refer to them at all?
>
> C slash g is fine. Everybody knows it means g is the bass note.
That's not exactly true. I didn't know until this morning when the first fellow
answered the question. I haven't had any lessons; I'm trying to teach myself
from books and the internet.
I did label it the question of a rank beginner, did I not?
--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr . com
David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
> What is there to talk about that you have to refer to them at all?
>
> C slash g is fine. Everybody knows it means g is the bass note.
That's not exactly true. I didn't know until this morning when the first fellow
answered the question. I haven't had any lessons; I'm trying to teach myself
from books and the internet.
I did label it the question of a rank beginner, did I not?
--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr . com
Re: Rank Beginner's Question
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:09:14 +1000, Mortimer Schnerd, RN
<mschnerdatcarolina.rr . com > wrote:
> That's not exactly true. I didn't know until this morning when the
> first fellow
> answered the question. I haven't had any lessons; I'm trying to teach
> myself
> from books and the internet.
>
> I did label it the question of a rank beginner, did I not?
>
Good luck with your learning Morty. I don't post much in hear, but I do
read quite often. I suggest you stick around. There's some good info
floating around in here.
Regards
Stuzz
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:09:14 +1000, Mortimer Schnerd, RN
<mschnerdatcarolina.rr . com > wrote:
> That's not exactly true. I didn't know until this morning when the
> first fellow
> answered the question. I haven't had any lessons; I'm trying to teach
> myself
> from books and the internet.
>
> I did label it the question of a rank beginner, did I not?
>
Good luck with your learning Morty. I don't post much in hear, but I do
read quite often. I suggest you stick around. There's some good info
floating around in here.
Regards
Stuzz
