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Wolf notes

Reply from: Muso
Date: 26 Apr 2008, 03:47
Wolf notes

As I mentioned in another post, yesterday I took the twelve-gauge
strings off of my steel-string acoustic guitar, and then I put on some
eight-gauge strings. Everything went just fine, except that I ended
up with a wolf note on the number-five string, when played unfretted.
Since I converted my guitar into a five-string model awhile back, I
then did an internet search, and I learned that the number-six string
in an eight-gauge set is about the same size as the number-five string
in an eleven-gauge set, so I used the number-six string in place of
the number-five string, and the wolf note disappeared.

I would be curious to know if anyone here has ever had a problem with
a wolf note on their guitar. You know, a note that just won't sound
right.

Reply from: Lumpy
Date: 26 Apr 2008, 04:31
Re: Wolf notes

Muso wrote:

> I would be curious to know if anyone
> here has ever had a problem with
> a wolf note on their guitar...

You're playing jazz on a 5 string,
strung with 8's.

I think I'd allow the wolves to be
part of your sound. Then you won't
sound like all those other jazz
players with 5 string guitars and 8's.


Lumpy

In Your Ears for 40 Years
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Reply from: ARLOWE
Date: 26 Apr 2008, 08:05
Re: Wolf notes

Muso wrote on 4/26/2008 :
> As I mentioned in another post, yesterday I took the twelve-gauge
> strings off of my steel-string acoustic guitar, and then I put on some
> eight-gauge strings. Everything went just fine, except that I ended
> up with a wolf note on the number-five string, when played unfretted.
> Since I converted my guitar into a five-string model awhile back, I
> then did an internet search, and I learned that the number-six string
> in an eight-gauge set is about the same size as the number-five string
> in an eleven-gauge set, so I used the number-six string in place of
> the number-five string, and the wolf note disappeared.
>
> I would be curious to know if anyone here has ever had a problem with
> a wolf note on their guitar. You know, a note that just won't sound
> right.

Intesting....now what the hell is a "wolf" note????



Reply from: Pt
Date: 27 Apr 2008, 19:44
Re: Wolf notes

On Apr 25, 8:47 pm, Muso <MikeMandavi...@aol . com > wrote:


> I would be curious to know if anyone here has ever had a problem with
> a wolf note on their guitar.  You know, a note that just won't sound
> right.


Disregarding the 5 string 8 ga part.....
When a string is too close to a pickup you can get weird resonance.

Pt

Reply from: Tony Done
Date: 27 Apr 2008, 22:23
Re: Wolf notes


"Muso" <MikeMandaville@aol . com > wrote in message
news:12c8773c-3f18-4725-baec-d5093837ea14@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups . com ...
> As I mentioned in another post, yesterday I took the twelve-gauge
> strings off of my steel-string acoustic guitar, and then I put on some
> eight-gauge strings. Everything went just fine, except that I ended
> up with a wolf note on the number-five string, when played unfretted.
> Since I converted my guitar into a five-string model awhile back, I
> then did an internet search, and I learned that the number-six string
> in an eight-gauge set is about the same size as the number-five string
> in an eleven-gauge set, so I used the number-six string in place of
> the number-five string, and the wolf note disappeared.
>
> I would be curious to know if anyone here has ever had a problem with
> a wolf note on their guitar. You know, a note that just won't sound
> right.

Those with a good ear and a lot of experience claim they can detect wolf
notes on most acoustic guitars, that correspond to the main air and body
resonances. My repairer tells me my Bourgeois has one at the low F#, but I
can't hear it. I tried a cedar-topped Seagull S6 a couple of years ago that
had a bad wolf tone on the low G. The worst I have heard was an expensive
Spanish hand-built classical guitar that had one note totally dead, it just
when "flub" when you struck it. That was over 40 years ago, and I haven't
heard anything like it since.

Tony D



Reply from: Muso
Date: 30 Apr 2008, 02:12
Headstock-mounted tremolo? (was: Wolf notes)

On Apr 27, 3:23=EF=BF=BDpm, "Tony Done" <tonyd...@bigpond . com > wrote:
> "Muso" <MikeMandavi...@aol . com > wrote in message
>
> news:12c8773c-3f18-4725-baec-d5093837ea14@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups . com ...
>
> > As I mentioned in another post, yesterday I took the twelve-gauge
> > strings off of my steel-string acoustic guitar, and then I put on some
> > eight-gauge strings. =EF=BF=BDEverything went just fine, except that I e=
nded
> > up with a wolf note on the number-five string, when played unfretted.
> > Since I converted my guitar into a five-string model awhile back, I
> > then did an internet search, and I learned that the number-six string
> > in an eight-gauge set is about the same size as the number-five string
> > in an eleven-gauge set, so I used the number-six string in place of
> > the number-five string, and the wolf note disappeared.
>
> > I would be curious to know if anyone here has ever had a problem with
> > a wolf note on their guitar. =EF=BF=BDYou know, a note that just won't s=
ound
> > right.
>
> Those with a good ear and a lot of experience claim they can detect wolf
> notes on most acoustic guitars, that correspond to the main air and body
> resonances. My repairer tells me my Bourgeois has one at the low F#, but I=

> can't hear it. I tried a cedar-topped Seagull S6 a couple of years ago tha=
t
> had a bad wolf tone on the low G. The worst I have heard was an expensive
> Spanish hand-built classical guitar that had one note totally dead, it jus=
t
> when "flub" when you struck it. That was over 40 years ago, and I haven't
> heard anything like it since.
>
> Tony D

The original number-five string with my eight-gauge set was thirty-
gauge, and the number-six string that I replaced it with was thirty-
eight gauge. Yesterday, I bought a thirty-two gauge string, which was
the next available size up from the original size, and it works just
fine.

At this point, I can get a tremolo effect on more than one string at a
time by pushing on the strings between the nut and the tuners. Of
course, I have to raise the pitches before I can lower them, though.
For this reason, I am thinking about designing some sort of headstock-
mounted tremolo system for acoustic guitars.

Reply from: PickrHead
Date: 05 May 2008, 18:11
Re: Headstock-mounted tremolo? (was: Wolf notes)

On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:12:46 -0700 (PDT), Muso <MikeMandaville@aol . com > wrote:


>
>The original number-five string with my eight-gauge set was thirty-
>gauge, and the number-six string that I replaced it with was thirty-
>eight gauge. Yesterday, I bought a thirty-two gauge string, which was
>the next available size up from the original size, and it works just
>fine.
>
>At this point, I can get a tremolo effect on more than one string at a
>time by pushing on the strings between the nut and the tuners. Of
>course, I have to raise the pitches before I can lower them, though.
>For this reason, I am thinking about designing some sort of headstock-
>mounted tremolo system for acoustic guitars.


With what, a loooooong whammy bar reaching down to the picking area?

Better suggestion, screw a handle onto the back of the headstock to push & pull
on the neck. That way you can go down as well as up.

OR, just drill a hole thru one end of your bridge & stick a conventional
Strat-style whammy bar in it. There's enough flexibilty in your guitar's top to
yield a nice vibrato if you apply enough force.

Good luck!





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