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New beginner question: slides
New beginner question: slides
Hi. I've been learning guitar for a couple of months. I'm using Mel
Bay Mastering the Guitar 1A.
Anyway page 30: Slides
The question is which fingers to use to play a slide?
Suppose I want to slide to the 3rd fret on the first string(G). I
start on the first fret(F)and slide up to G. Now which finger should
I start the slide with? The first finger which is normal for the
first fret(F), or the third finger which is normal for the third
fret(G)?
Hi. I've been learning guitar for a couple of months. I'm using Mel
Bay Mastering the Guitar 1A.
Anyway page 30: Slides
The question is which fingers to use to play a slide?
Suppose I want to slide to the 3rd fret on the first string(G). I
start on the first fret(F)and slide up to G. Now which finger should
I start the slide with? The first finger which is normal for the
first fret(F), or the third finger which is normal for the third
fret(G)?
Re: New beginner question: slides
On 27 Apr 2008, donny <x.smiling_tiger@yahoo . com > wrote in
alt.guitar.beginner:
> Suppose I want to slide to the 3rd fret on the first string(G). I
> start on the first fret(F)and slide up to G. Now which finger should
> I start the slide with? The first finger which is normal for the
> first fret(F), or the third finger which is normal for the third
> fret(G)?
You can use any of the four fingers you want. There are no rules. The
things to consider are where you are coming from and where you are
going. You will obviously prefer a starting finger that's not otherwise
occupied, and you want the right fingers free at the end of the slide
to play whatever comes next. In other words, use whichever finger works
best for that particular musical situation.
On 27 Apr 2008, donny <x.smiling_tiger@yahoo . com > wrote in
alt.guitar.beginner:
> Suppose I want to slide to the 3rd fret on the first string(G). I
> start on the first fret(F)and slide up to G. Now which finger should
> I start the slide with? The first finger which is normal for the
> first fret(F), or the third finger which is normal for the third
> fret(G)?
You can use any of the four fingers you want. There are no rules. The
things to consider are where you are coming from and where you are
going. You will obviously prefer a starting finger that's not otherwise
occupied, and you want the right fingers free at the end of the slide
to play whatever comes next. In other words, use whichever finger works
best for that particular musical situation.
Re: New beginner question: slides
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 10:52:02 -0500, Nil wrote:
> On 27 Apr 2008, donny <x.smiling_tiger@yahoo . com > wrote in
> alt.guitar.beginner:
>
>> Suppose I want to slide to the 3rd fret on the first string(G). I
>> start on the first fret(F)and slide up to G. Now which finger should I
>> start the slide with? The first finger which is normal for the first
>> fret(F), or the third finger which is normal for the third fret(G)?
>
> You can use any of the four fingers you want. There are no rules. The
> things to consider are where you are coming from and where you are
> going. You will obviously prefer a starting finger that's not otherwise
> occupied, and you want the right fingers free at the end of the slide to
> play whatever comes next. In other words, use whichever finger works
> best for that particular musical situation.
You must also not use any particular finger too much. It is a good idea
to slide on a spot near the end of the finger that you hardly
ever press with. Sliding beats the finger ends up a lot, so
you should always find ways to avoid wearing off too much
skin. daveA
--
email: darnold4@cox . net (put "poisonal" anywhere in subject)
DGT: The very best technical exercises for all guitarists:
* w w w .openguitar . com /dynamic.html. Original easy solos at:
* w w w .openguitar . com . :::=={_o) David Raleigh Arnold
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 10:52:02 -0500, Nil wrote:
> On 27 Apr 2008, donny <x.smiling_tiger@yahoo . com > wrote in
> alt.guitar.beginner:
>
>> Suppose I want to slide to the 3rd fret on the first string(G). I
>> start on the first fret(F)and slide up to G. Now which finger should I
>> start the slide with? The first finger which is normal for the first
>> fret(F), or the third finger which is normal for the third fret(G)?
>
> You can use any of the four fingers you want. There are no rules. The
> things to consider are where you are coming from and where you are
> going. You will obviously prefer a starting finger that's not otherwise
> occupied, and you want the right fingers free at the end of the slide to
> play whatever comes next. In other words, use whichever finger works
> best for that particular musical situation.
You must also not use any particular finger too much. It is a good idea
to slide on a spot near the end of the finger that you hardly
ever press with. Sliding beats the finger ends up a lot, so
you should always find ways to avoid wearing off too much
skin. daveA
--
email: darnold4@cox . net (put "poisonal" anywhere in subject)
DGT: The very best technical exercises for all guitarists:
* w w w .openguitar . com /dynamic.html. Original easy solos at:
* w w w .openguitar . com . :::=={_o) David Raleigh Arnold
Re: New beginner question: slides
On 27 Apr 2008, David Raleigh Arnold <darnold4@cox . net > wrote in
alt.guitar.beginner:
> You must also not use any particular finger too much.
This is true. I use them all equally.
> It is a good idea to slide on a spot near the end of the finger
> that you hardly ever press with.
I don't find that to be at all true. It would be inconvenient and
impractical to release the string, move to a different spot on the
same finger, press down again and slide.
> Sliding beats the finger ends up a lot, so you should always find
> ways to avoid wearing off too much skin.
Not really. Once you develop some good callus, your skin won't wear off
enough during normal playing to be a problem. You don't need to press
hard - it's not like you're sliding across a knife edge. There's no
reason to baby them like you suggest.
On 27 Apr 2008, David Raleigh Arnold <darnold4@cox . net > wrote in
alt.guitar.beginner:
> You must also not use any particular finger too much.
This is true. I use them all equally.
> It is a good idea to slide on a spot near the end of the finger
> that you hardly ever press with.
I don't find that to be at all true. It would be inconvenient and
impractical to release the string, move to a different spot on the
same finger, press down again and slide.
> Sliding beats the finger ends up a lot, so you should always find
> ways to avoid wearing off too much skin.
Not really. Once you develop some good callus, your skin won't wear off
enough during normal playing to be a problem. You don't need to press
hard - it's not like you're sliding across a knife edge. There's no
reason to baby them like you suggest.
Re: New beginner question: slides
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:50:07 -0500, Nil wrote:
> On 27 Apr 2008, David Raleigh Arnold <darnold4@cox . net > wrote in
> alt.guitar.beginner:
>
>> You must also not use any particular finger too much.
>
> This is true. I use them all equally.
>
>> It is a good idea to slide on a spot near the end of the finger that
>> you hardly ever press with.
>
> I don't find that to be at all true. It would be inconvenient and
> impractical to release the string, move to a different spot on the same
> finger, press down again and slide.
It just requires a bit more foresight than you have, I guess. daveA
--
email: darnold4@cox . net (put "poisonal" anywhere in subject)
DGT: The very best technical exercises for all guitarists:
* w w w .openguitar . com /dynamic.html. Original easy solos at:
* w w w .openguitar . com . :::=={_o) David Raleigh Arnold
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:50:07 -0500, Nil wrote:
> On 27 Apr 2008, David Raleigh Arnold <darnold4@cox . net > wrote in
> alt.guitar.beginner:
>
>> You must also not use any particular finger too much.
>
> This is true. I use them all equally.
>
>> It is a good idea to slide on a spot near the end of the finger that
>> you hardly ever press with.
>
> I don't find that to be at all true. It would be inconvenient and
> impractical to release the string, move to a different spot on the same
> finger, press down again and slide.
It just requires a bit more foresight than you have, I guess. daveA
--
email: darnold4@cox . net (put "poisonal" anywhere in subject)
DGT: The very best technical exercises for all guitarists:
* w w w .openguitar . com /dynamic.html. Original easy solos at:
* w w w .openguitar . com . :::=={_o) David Raleigh Arnold
Re: New beginner question: slides
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:52:50 GMT, David Raleigh Arnold
<darnold4@cox . net > wrote:
>On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:50:07 -0500, Nil wrote:
>
>> On 27 Apr 2008, David Raleigh Arnold <darnold4@cox . net > wrote in
>> alt.guitar.beginner:
>>
>>> You must also not use any particular finger too much.
>>
>> This is true. I use them all equally.
>>
>>> It is a good idea to slide on a spot near the end of the finger that
>>> you hardly ever press with.
>>
>> I don't find that to be at all true. It would be inconvenient and
>> impractical to release the string, move to a different spot on the same
>> finger, press down again and slide.
>
>It just requires a bit more foresight than you have, I guess. daveA
You boys both know some stuff about guitars but you really should give
up yer pissin' match.. . it 's boring as hell.
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:52:50 GMT, David Raleigh Arnold
<darnold4@cox . net > wrote:
>On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:50:07 -0500, Nil wrote:
>
>> On 27 Apr 2008, David Raleigh Arnold <darnold4@cox . net > wrote in
>> alt.guitar.beginner:
>>
>>> You must also not use any particular finger too much.
>>
>> This is true. I use them all equally.
>>
>>> It is a good idea to slide on a spot near the end of the finger that
>>> you hardly ever press with.
>>
>> I don't find that to be at all true. It would be inconvenient and
>> impractical to release the string, move to a different spot on the same
>> finger, press down again and slide.
>
>It just requires a bit more foresight than you have, I guess. daveA
You boys both know some stuff about guitars but you really should give
up yer pissin' match.. . it 's boring as hell.
Re: New beginner question: slides
On 29 Apr 2008, jimmy <bigtoehere@hotmail . com > wrote in
alt.guitar.beginner:
> You boys both know some stuff about guitars but you really should
> give up yer pissin' match.. . it 's boring as hell.
You should notice that he's the one who's tossing out the childish
bitchy digs. I commented only on the topic and my experience. I was
ignoring his attempt to start a fight... until you brought it up again.
Thanks, man, that's what we really need around here!
On 29 Apr 2008, jimmy <bigtoehere@hotmail . com > wrote in
alt.guitar.beginner:
> You boys both know some stuff about guitars but you really should
> give up yer pissin' match.. . it 's boring as hell.
You should notice that he's the one who's tossing out the childish
bitchy digs. I commented only on the topic and my experience. I was
ignoring his attempt to start a fight... until you brought it up again.
Thanks, man, that's what we really need around here!
Re: New beginner question: slides
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:00:12 -0500, Nil
<rednoise+news@REMOVETHIScomcast . net > wrote:
>On 29 Apr 2008, jimmy <bigtoehere@hotmail . com > wrote in
>alt.guitar.beginner:
>
>> You boys both know some stuff about guitars but you really should
>> give up yer pissin' match.. . it 's boring as hell.
>
>You should notice that he's the one who's tossing out the childish
>bitchy digs. I commented only on the topic and my experience. I was
>ignoring his attempt to start a fight... until you brought it up again.
>Thanks, man, that's what we really need around here!
Maybe I'm just so used to seeing it. That's the second time I've
mentioned it....first & last.
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:00:12 -0500, Nil
<rednoise+news@REMOVETHIScomcast . net > wrote:
>On 29 Apr 2008, jimmy <bigtoehere@hotmail . com > wrote in
>alt.guitar.beginner:
>
>> You boys both know some stuff about guitars but you really should
>> give up yer pissin' match.. . it 's boring as hell.
>
>You should notice that he's the one who's tossing out the childish
>bitchy digs. I commented only on the topic and my experience. I was
>ignoring his attempt to start a fight... until you brought it up again.
>Thanks, man, that's what we really need around here!
Maybe I'm just so used to seeing it. That's the second time I've
mentioned it....first & last.
Re: New beginner question: slides
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:55:18 -0300, jimmy wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:00:12 -0500, Nil
> <rednoise+news@REMOVETHIScomcast . net > wrote:
>
>>On 29 Apr 2008, jimmy <bigtoehere@hotmail . com > wrote in
>>alt.guitar.beginner:
>>
>>> You boys both know some stuff about guitars but you really should give
>>> up yer pissin' match.. . it 's boring as hell.
>>
>>You should notice that he's the one who's tossing out the childish
>>bitchy digs. I commented only on the topic and my experience. I was
>>ignoring his attempt to start a fight... until you brought it up again.
>>Thanks, man, that's what we really need around here!
>
> Maybe I'm just so used to seeing it. That's the second time I've
> mentioned it....first & last.
He speculated that it *would* not be practical to prepare for
slides, and I said that it *was* in fact practical. The problem
is his limited experience. Simple as that. daveA
--
email: darnold4@cox . net (put "poisonal" anywhere in subject)
DGT: The very best technical exercises for all guitarists:
* w w w .openguitar . com /dynamic.html. Original easy solos at:
* w w w .openguitar . com . :::=={_o) David Raleigh Arnold
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:55:18 -0300, jimmy wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:00:12 -0500, Nil
> <rednoise+news@REMOVETHIScomcast . net > wrote:
>
>>On 29 Apr 2008, jimmy <bigtoehere@hotmail . com > wrote in
>>alt.guitar.beginner:
>>
>>> You boys both know some stuff about guitars but you really should give
>>> up yer pissin' match.. . it 's boring as hell.
>>
>>You should notice that he's the one who's tossing out the childish
>>bitchy digs. I commented only on the topic and my experience. I was
>>ignoring his attempt to start a fight... until you brought it up again.
>>Thanks, man, that's what we really need around here!
>
> Maybe I'm just so used to seeing it. That's the second time I've
> mentioned it....first & last.
He speculated that it *would* not be practical to prepare for
slides, and I said that it *was* in fact practical. The problem
is his limited experience. Simple as that. daveA
--
email: darnold4@cox . net (put "poisonal" anywhere in subject)
DGT: The very best technical exercises for all guitarists:
* w w w .openguitar . com /dynamic.html. Original easy solos at:
* w w w .openguitar . com . :::=={_o) David Raleigh Arnold
Re: New beginner question: slides
On 29 Apr 2008, David Raleigh Arnold <darnold4@cox . net > wrote in
alt.guitar.beginner:
> He speculated that it *would* not be practical to prepare for
> slides, and I said that it *was* in fact practical. The problem
> is his limited experience. Simple as that. daveA
I go beyond speculation: "preparing for slides" in the way you describe
is an impractical, unnecessary waste of effort.
Not only that, but the "issue" is completely irrelevant to the original
question. You're obviously trying to start an argument, but I'm not in
the mood. Go troll somewhere else.
You have no idea what the limit of my experience is.
On 29 Apr 2008, David Raleigh Arnold <darnold4@cox . net > wrote in
alt.guitar.beginner:
> He speculated that it *would* not be practical to prepare for
> slides, and I said that it *was* in fact practical. The problem
> is his limited experience. Simple as that. daveA
I go beyond speculation: "preparing for slides" in the way you describe
is an impractical, unnecessary waste of effort.
Not only that, but the "issue" is completely irrelevant to the original
question. You're obviously trying to start an argument, but I'm not in
the mood. Go troll somewhere else.
You have no idea what the limit of my experience is.
Re: New beginner question: slides
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:25:43 -0500, Nil wrote:
> On 29 Apr 2008, David Raleigh Arnold <darnold4@cox . net > wrote in
> alt.guitar.beginner:
>
>> He speculated that it *would* not be practical to prepare for slides,
>> and I said that it *was* in fact practical. The problem is his limited
>> experience. Simple as that. daveA
>
> I go beyond speculation: "preparing for slides" in the way you describe
> is an impractical, unnecessary waste of effort.
>
> Not only that, but the "issue" is completely irrelevant to the original
> question. You're obviously trying to start an argument, but I'm not in
> the mood. Go troll somewhere else.
>
> You have no idea what the limit of my experience is.
Of course I do. You have never played enough to be acquainted
with the reality that you have to consider loss of skin both when
fingering pieces with slides and when deciding whether to do slides
at all in any particular case. daveA
--
email: darnold4@cox . net (put "poisonal" anywhere in subject)
DGT: The very best technical exercises for all guitarists:
* w w w .openguitar . com /dynamic.html. Original easy solos at:
* w w w .openguitar . com . :::=={_o) David Raleigh Arnold
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:25:43 -0500, Nil wrote:
> On 29 Apr 2008, David Raleigh Arnold <darnold4@cox . net > wrote in
> alt.guitar.beginner:
>
>> He speculated that it *would* not be practical to prepare for slides,
>> and I said that it *was* in fact practical. The problem is his limited
>> experience. Simple as that. daveA
>
> I go beyond speculation: "preparing for slides" in the way you describe
> is an impractical, unnecessary waste of effort.
>
> Not only that, but the "issue" is completely irrelevant to the original
> question. You're obviously trying to start an argument, but I'm not in
> the mood. Go troll somewhere else.
>
> You have no idea what the limit of my experience is.
Of course I do. You have never played enough to be acquainted
with the reality that you have to consider loss of skin both when
fingering pieces with slides and when deciding whether to do slides
at all in any particular case. daveA
--
email: darnold4@cox . net (put "poisonal" anywhere in subject)
DGT: The very best technical exercises for all guitarists:
* w w w .openguitar . com /dynamic.html. Original easy solos at:
* w w w .openguitar . com . :::=={_o) David Raleigh Arnold
Re: New beginner question: slides
On Apr 30, 5:05 am, David Raleigh Arnold <darno...@cox . net > wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:25:43 -0500, Nil wrote:
> > On 29 Apr 2008, David Raleigh Arnold <darno...@cox . net > wrote in
> > alt.guitar.beginner:
>
> >> He speculated that it *would* not be practical to prepare for slides,
> >> and I said that it *was* in fact practical. The problem is his limited
> >> experience. Simple as that. daveA
>
> > I go beyond speculation: "preparing for slides" in the way you describe
> > is an impractical, unnecessary waste of effort.
>
> > Not only that, but the "issue" is completely irrelevant to the original
> > question. You're obviously trying to start an argument, but I'm not in
> > the mood. Go troll somewhere else.
>
> > You have no idea what the limit of my experience is.
>
> Of course I do. You have never played enough to be acquainted
> with the reality that you have to consider loss of skin both when
> fingering pieces with slides and when deciding whether to do slides
> at all in any particular case. daveA
>
> --
> email: darno...@cox . net (put "poisonal" anywhere in subject)
> DGT: The very best technical exercises for all guitarists: * w w w .openguitar . com /dynamic.html. Original easy solos at: * w w w .openguitar . com . :::=={ o) David Raleigh Arnold
As the OP I appreciate the constructive input. I'm going with
'there are no rules, use common sense'. Like the movie says:
'Do The Right Thing'.
On Apr 30, 5:05 am, David Raleigh Arnold <darno...@cox . net > wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:25:43 -0500, Nil wrote:
> > On 29 Apr 2008, David Raleigh Arnold <darno...@cox . net > wrote in
> > alt.guitar.beginner:
>
> >> He speculated that it *would* not be practical to prepare for slides,
> >> and I said that it *was* in fact practical. The problem is his limited
> >> experience. Simple as that. daveA
>
> > I go beyond speculation: "preparing for slides" in the way you describe
> > is an impractical, unnecessary waste of effort.
>
> > Not only that, but the "issue" is completely irrelevant to the original
> > question. You're obviously trying to start an argument, but I'm not in
> > the mood. Go troll somewhere else.
>
> > You have no idea what the limit of my experience is.
>
> Of course I do. You have never played enough to be acquainted
> with the reality that you have to consider loss of skin both when
> fingering pieces with slides and when deciding whether to do slides
> at all in any particular case. daveA
>
> --
> email: darno...@cox . net (put "poisonal" anywhere in subject)
> DGT: The very best technical exercises for all guitarists: * w w w .openguitar . com /dynamic.html. Original easy solos at: * w w w .openguitar . com . :::=={ o) David Raleigh Arnold
As the OP I appreciate the constructive input. I'm going with
'there are no rules, use common sense'. Like the movie says:
'Do The Right Thing'.
Re: New beginner question: slides
On 30 Apr 2008, David Raleigh Arnold <darnold4@cox . net > wrote in
alt.guitar.beginner:
> Of course I do. You have never played enough to be acquainted
> with the reality that you have to consider loss of skin both when
> fingering pieces with slides and when deciding whether to do
> slides at all in any particular case.
You're a fine one to talk, since you're the one who seems to be in
constant danger of losing your skin. Nearly every reputable method book
devotes at least one chapter on the retrieval of the tattered ribbons
of skin hanging off the strings after a vigorous session. Carcassi's
advice is to handle them with wooden tongs, and to store the skin in a
small humidor until enough is collected for a meal with fava beans and
a nice Chianti.
Get with the program, you numbskull.
On 30 Apr 2008, David Raleigh Arnold <darnold4@cox . net > wrote in
alt.guitar.beginner:
> Of course I do. You have never played enough to be acquainted
> with the reality that you have to consider loss of skin both when
> fingering pieces with slides and when deciding whether to do
> slides at all in any particular case.
You're a fine one to talk, since you're the one who seems to be in
constant danger of losing your skin. Nearly every reputable method book
devotes at least one chapter on the retrieval of the tattered ribbons
of skin hanging off the strings after a vigorous session. Carcassi's
advice is to handle them with wooden tongs, and to store the skin in a
small humidor until enough is collected for a meal with fava beans and
a nice Chianti.
Get with the program, you numbskull.
Re: New beginner question: slides
On Apr 30, 11:16 am, Nil <rednoise+n...@REMOVETHIScomcast . net > wrote:
> Nearly every reputable method book
> devotes at least one chapter on the retrieval of the tattered ribbons
> of skin hanging off the strings after a vigorous session.
Wow. I might not be committed enough to master this instrument after
all...
--Cliff (US)
On Apr 30, 11:16 am, Nil <rednoise+n...@REMOVETHIScomcast . net > wrote:
> Nearly every reputable method book
> devotes at least one chapter on the retrieval of the tattered ribbons
> of skin hanging off the strings after a vigorous session.
Wow. I might not be committed enough to master this instrument after
all...
--Cliff (US)
Re: New beginner question: slides
"hcbowman" <hcbowman@gmail . com > wrote in message
news:5acf364c-4759-48f2-9737-5dcea2f5b70c@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups . com ...
> On Apr 30, 11:16 am, Nil <rednoise+n...@REMOVETHIScomcast . net > wrote:
>> Nearly every reputable method book
>> devotes at least one chapter on the retrieval of the tattered ribbons
>> of skin hanging off the strings after a vigorous session.
>
> Wow. I might not be committed enough to master this instrument after
> all...
>
Just wait until you find out what we do with all the fingernail pieces that
break off.
"hcbowman" <hcbowman@gmail . com > wrote in message
news:5acf364c-4759-48f2-9737-5dcea2f5b70c@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups . com ...
> On Apr 30, 11:16 am, Nil <rednoise+n...@REMOVETHIScomcast . net > wrote:
>> Nearly every reputable method book
>> devotes at least one chapter on the retrieval of the tattered ribbons
>> of skin hanging off the strings after a vigorous session.
>
> Wow. I might not be committed enough to master this instrument after
> all...
>
Just wait until you find out what we do with all the fingernail pieces that
break off.
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