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Chord/Key Change
I want to sing along to a tune that uses the G, G7, C, and D7 chords. I
have a bass voice and find that when I play a C chord in place of the
"G" I can match the pitch without straining. Put another way, I must
lower the pitch of the "G" note 7 semitones to match my voice. Thus the
"G" chord changes to "C". What do I change the G7, C and D7 chords to in
order to get the same tone drop?
How does one figure this out?
Thanks,
EJ in NJ
I want to sing along to a tune that uses the G, G7, C, and D7 chords. I
have a bass voice and find that when I play a C chord in place of the
"G" I can match the pitch without straining. Put another way, I must
lower the pitch of the "G" note 7 semitones to match my voice. Thus the
"G" chord changes to "C". What do I change the G7, C and D7 chords to in
order to get the same tone drop?
How does one figure this out?
Thanks,
EJ in NJ
Re: Chord/Key Change
Ernie Willson wrote:
> I want to sing along to a tune that uses the G, G7, C, and D7 chords. I
> have a bass voice and find that when I play a C chord in place of the
> "G" I can match the pitch without straining. Put another way, I must
> lower the pitch of the "G" note 7 semitones to match my voice. Thus the
> "G" chord changes to "C". What do I change the G7, C and D7 chords to in
> order to get the same tone drop?
>
> How does one figure this out?
>
> Thanks,
> EJ in NJ
...I think it's actually 8 semis, but if your basic progression is G-C-D
then you would modulate to C, C7, F, G7 by my reckoning...which may
still give you a vocal issue at the G7.
What I did was to noodle out your G progression an octave higher on the
neck, change it to start in C at in the same octave, and then modulate
down the neck to C at the third fret and just use the lower F and G on
the sixth string.
...what I ended up playing sounds a lot like "You Can't Always Get what
You Want"...in the keys of G and C...YMMV...
--
- Rufus
Ernie Willson wrote:
> I want to sing along to a tune that uses the G, G7, C, and D7 chords. I
> have a bass voice and find that when I play a C chord in place of the
> "G" I can match the pitch without straining. Put another way, I must
> lower the pitch of the "G" note 7 semitones to match my voice. Thus the
> "G" chord changes to "C". What do I change the G7, C and D7 chords to in
> order to get the same tone drop?
>
> How does one figure this out?
>
> Thanks,
> EJ in NJ
...I think it's actually 8 semis, but if your basic progression is G-C-D
then you would modulate to C, C7, F, G7 by my reckoning...which may
still give you a vocal issue at the G7.
What I did was to noodle out your G progression an octave higher on the
neck, change it to start in C at in the same octave, and then modulate
down the neck to C at the third fret and just use the lower F and G on
the sixth string.
...what I ended up playing sounds a lot like "You Can't Always Get what
You Want"...in the keys of G and C...YMMV...
--
- Rufus
Re: Chord/Key Change
Rufus wrote:
> Ernie Willson wrote:
>> I want to sing along to a tune that uses the G, G7, C, and D7 chords.
>> I have a bass voice and find that when I play a C chord in place of
>> the "G" I can match the pitch without straining. Put another way, I
>> must lower the pitch of the "G" note 7 semitones to match my voice.
>> Thus the "G" chord changes to "C". What do I change the G7, C and D7
>> chords to in order to get the same tone drop?
>>
>> How does one figure this out?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> EJ in NJ
>
> ...I think it's actually 8 semis, but if your basic progression is G-C-D
> then you would modulate to C, C7, F, G7 by my reckoning...which may
> still give you a vocal issue at the G7.
>
> What I did was to noodle out your G progression an octave higher on the
> neck, change it to start in C at in the same octave, and then modulate
> down the neck to C at the third fret and just use the lower F and G on
> the sixth string.
>
> ...what I ended up playing sounds a lot like "You Can't Always Get what
> You Want"...in the keys of G and C...YMMV...
Rufus,
Thanks for the quick answer. I think I understand. You saying that "G"
becomes "C", "G7" becomes "C7", "C" becomes "F", and "D7" becomes "G7"?
Is this correct?
Thanks
Ernie
>
Rufus wrote:
> Ernie Willson wrote:
>> I want to sing along to a tune that uses the G, G7, C, and D7 chords.
>> I have a bass voice and find that when I play a C chord in place of
>> the "G" I can match the pitch without straining. Put another way, I
>> must lower the pitch of the "G" note 7 semitones to match my voice.
>> Thus the "G" chord changes to "C". What do I change the G7, C and D7
>> chords to in order to get the same tone drop?
>>
>> How does one figure this out?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> EJ in NJ
>
> ...I think it's actually 8 semis, but if your basic progression is G-C-D
> then you would modulate to C, C7, F, G7 by my reckoning...which may
> still give you a vocal issue at the G7.
>
> What I did was to noodle out your G progression an octave higher on the
> neck, change it to start in C at in the same octave, and then modulate
> down the neck to C at the third fret and just use the lower F and G on
> the sixth string.
>
> ...what I ended up playing sounds a lot like "You Can't Always Get what
> You Want"...in the keys of G and C...YMMV...
Rufus,
Thanks for the quick answer. I think I understand. You saying that "G"
becomes "C", "G7" becomes "C7", "C" becomes "F", and "D7" becomes "G7"?
Is this correct?
Thanks
Ernie
>
Re: Chord/Key Change
Ernie,
\> Thanks for the quick answer. I think I understand. You saying that "G"
> becomes "C", "G7" becomes "C7", "C" becomes "F", and "D7" becomes "G7"? Is
> this correct?
Yes. You've gone from the key of G major to the key of C major.
Dave M.
Ernie,
\> Thanks for the quick answer. I think I understand. You saying that "G"
> becomes "C", "G7" becomes "C7", "C" becomes "F", and "D7" becomes "G7"? Is
> this correct?
Yes. You've gone from the key of G major to the key of C major.
Dave M.
Re: Chord/Key Change
Ernie Willson wrote:
>
>
> Rufus wrote:
>> Ernie Willson wrote:
>>> I want to sing along to a tune that uses the G, G7, C, and D7 chords.
>>> I have a bass voice and find that when I play a C chord in place of
>>> the "G" I can match the pitch without straining. Put another way, I
>>> must lower the pitch of the "G" note 7 semitones to match my voice.
>>> Thus the "G" chord changes to "C". What do I change the G7, C and D7
>>> chords to in order to get the same tone drop?
>>>
>>> How does one figure this out?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> EJ in NJ
>>
>> ...I think it's actually 8 semis, but if your basic progression is
>> G-C-D then you would modulate to C, C7, F, G7 by my reckoning...which
>> may still give you a vocal issue at the G7.
>>
>> What I did was to noodle out your G progression an octave higher on
>> the neck, change it to start in C at in the same octave, and then
>> modulate down the neck to C at the third fret and just use the lower F
>> and G on the sixth string.
>>
>> ...what I ended up playing sounds a lot like "You Can't Always Get
>> what You Want"...in the keys of G and C...YMMV...
>
> Rufus,
>
> Thanks for the quick answer. I think I understand. You saying that "G"
> becomes "C", "G7" becomes "C7", "C" becomes "F", and "D7" becomes "G7"?
> Is this correct?
>
> Thanks
> Ernie
>>
Yes - that's what I did. I just modulated it into a C based
progression, and then pulled it all back an octave lower.
--
- Rufus
Ernie Willson wrote:
>
>
> Rufus wrote:
>> Ernie Willson wrote:
>>> I want to sing along to a tune that uses the G, G7, C, and D7 chords.
>>> I have a bass voice and find that when I play a C chord in place of
>>> the "G" I can match the pitch without straining. Put another way, I
>>> must lower the pitch of the "G" note 7 semitones to match my voice.
>>> Thus the "G" chord changes to "C". What do I change the G7, C and D7
>>> chords to in order to get the same tone drop?
>>>
>>> How does one figure this out?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> EJ in NJ
>>
>> ...I think it's actually 8 semis, but if your basic progression is
>> G-C-D then you would modulate to C, C7, F, G7 by my reckoning...which
>> may still give you a vocal issue at the G7.
>>
>> What I did was to noodle out your G progression an octave higher on
>> the neck, change it to start in C at in the same octave, and then
>> modulate down the neck to C at the third fret and just use the lower F
>> and G on the sixth string.
>>
>> ...what I ended up playing sounds a lot like "You Can't Always Get
>> what You Want"...in the keys of G and C...YMMV...
>
> Rufus,
>
> Thanks for the quick answer. I think I understand. You saying that "G"
> becomes "C", "G7" becomes "C7", "C" becomes "F", and "D7" becomes "G7"?
> Is this correct?
>
> Thanks
> Ernie
>>
Yes - that's what I did. I just modulated it into a C based
progression, and then pulled it all back an octave lower.
--
- Rufus
Re: Chord/Key Change
"Ernie Willson" <ewillson@patmedia . net > wrote in message
news:4817cf4f$0$12614$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting . com ...
>I want to sing along to a tune that uses the G, G7, C, and D7 chords. I
>have a bass voice and find that when I play a C chord in place of the "G" I
>can match the pitch without straining. Put another way, I must lower the
>pitch of the "G" note 7 semitones to match my voice. Thus the "G" chord
>changes to "C". What do I change the G7, C and D7 chords to in order to get
>the same tone drop?
>
> How does one figure this out?
>
> Thanks,
> EJ in NJ
The original is in the key of is in the key of G
G,G7,C,D7
You want the key of C
C,C7,F,G7
Bob
"Ernie Willson" <ewillson@patmedia . net > wrote in message
news:4817cf4f$0$12614$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting . com ...
>I want to sing along to a tune that uses the G, G7, C, and D7 chords. I
>have a bass voice and find that when I play a C chord in place of the "G" I
>can match the pitch without straining. Put another way, I must lower the
>pitch of the "G" note 7 semitones to match my voice. Thus the "G" chord
>changes to "C". What do I change the G7, C and D7 chords to in order to get
>the same tone drop?
>
> How does one figure this out?
>
> Thanks,
> EJ in NJ
The original is in the key of is in the key of G
G,G7,C,D7
You want the key of C
C,C7,F,G7
Bob
Re: Chord/Key Change
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:10:21 -0400, Ernie Willson wrote:
> I want to sing along to a tune that uses the G, G7, C, and D7 chords. I
> have a bass voice and find that when I play a C chord in place of the
> "G" I can match the pitch without straining. Put another way, I must
> lower the pitch of the "G" note 7 semitones to match my voice. Thus the
> "G" chord changes to "C". What do I change the G7, C and D7 chords to in
> order to get the same tone drop?
>
> How does one figure this out?
>
> Thanks,
> EJ in NJ
To transpose from G to C, make a list of notes
in the old key and the new key:
g a b c d e f#
c d e f g a b
Change a to d, f to b-flat, d# to g#, Am to Dm, etc.
It's a lot quicker to make your own chart than it is to mess
with a published one which has too much information. daveA
--
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On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:10:21 -0400, Ernie Willson wrote:
> I want to sing along to a tune that uses the G, G7, C, and D7 chords. I
> have a bass voice and find that when I play a C chord in place of the
> "G" I can match the pitch without straining. Put another way, I must
> lower the pitch of the "G" note 7 semitones to match my voice. Thus the
> "G" chord changes to "C". What do I change the G7, C and D7 chords to in
> order to get the same tone drop?
>
> How does one figure this out?
>
> Thanks,
> EJ in NJ
To transpose from G to C, make a list of notes
in the old key and the new key:
g a b c d e f#
c d e f g a b
Change a to d, f to b-flat, d# to g#, Am to Dm, etc.
It's a lot quicker to make your own chart than it is to mess
with a published one which has too much information. daveA
--
email: darnold4@cox . net (put "poisonal" anywhere in subject)
DGT: The very best technical exercises for all guitarists:
* w w w .openguitar . com /dynamic.html. Original easy solos at:
* w w w .openguitar . com . :::=={_o) David Raleigh Arnold
Re: Chord/Key Change
Thanks Rufus, Bob and Dave. I think I've got it now.
Ernie
David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:10:21 -0400, Ernie Willson wrote:
>
>> I want to sing along to a tune that uses the G, G7, C, and D7 chords. I
>> have a bass voice and find that when I play a C chord in place of the
>> "G" I can match the pitch without straining. Put another way, I must
>> lower the pitch of the "G" note 7 semitones to match my voice. Thus the
>> "G" chord changes to "C". What do I change the G7, C and D7 chords to in
>> order to get the same tone drop?
>>
>> How does one figure this out?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> EJ in NJ
>
> To transpose from G to C, make a list of notes
> in the old key and the new key:
>
> g a b c d e f#
> c d e f g a b
>
> Change a to d, f to b-flat, d# to g#, Am to Dm, etc.
>
> It's a lot quicker to make your own chart than it is to mess
> with a published one which has too much information. daveA
>
Thanks Rufus, Bob and Dave. I think I've got it now.
Ernie
David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:10:21 -0400, Ernie Willson wrote:
>
>> I want to sing along to a tune that uses the G, G7, C, and D7 chords. I
>> have a bass voice and find that when I play a C chord in place of the
>> "G" I can match the pitch without straining. Put another way, I must
>> lower the pitch of the "G" note 7 semitones to match my voice. Thus the
>> "G" chord changes to "C". What do I change the G7, C and D7 chords to in
>> order to get the same tone drop?
>>
>> How does one figure this out?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> EJ in NJ
>
> To transpose from G to C, make a list of notes
> in the old key and the new key:
>
> g a b c d e f#
> c d e f g a b
>
> Change a to d, f to b-flat, d# to g#, Am to Dm, etc.
>
> It's a lot quicker to make your own chart than it is to mess
> with a published one which has too much information. daveA
>
