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What guitar do I buy for my daughter?

Reply from: Gags
Date: 15 May 2008, 12:39
What guitar do I buy for my daughter?

My daughter's school is offering guitar lessons and she wants to take them
up. I got the flyer today and it says that she will need access to a nylon
string or folk guitar and that she will be learning guitar chords and music
notation on the treble clef.

As I have no idea of what any of this means I am hoping that someone may be
able to give me some advice on what sort of guitar I should be looking at
buying her to start out with. I would appreciate any advice on what sort of
guitar would best suit an 8 y.o. girl as a starting point.

My daughter is also left handed - do I need to buy her a left handed guitar
or do they just string a normal one upside down??

Thanks in advance for any responses.

Gags



Reply from: G. Verhoef
Date: 15 May 2008, 13:03
Re: What guitar do I buy for my daughter?

Gags wrote:
> My daughter's school is offering guitar lessons and she wants to take them
> up. I got the flyer today and it says that she will need access to a nylon
> string or folk guitar and that she will be learning guitar chords and music
> notation on the treble clef.
>
> As I have no idea of what any of this means I am hoping that someone may be
> able to give me some advice on what sort of guitar I should be looking at
> buying her to start out with. I would appreciate any advice on what sort of
> guitar would best suit an 8 y.o. girl as a starting point.
>
> My daughter is also left handed - do I need to buy her a left handed guitar
> or do they just string a normal one upside down??
>
> Thanks in advance for any responses.
>
> Gags
>
>
Nylon string guitars (also called classical or Spanish guitars)
- are (in my opinion) easier to play for young kids (they don't hurt the
fretting fingers);
- sound different, have a more mellow sound, meant for classical music
(or Spanish music)

Folk guitars
- are typically meant for folk / pop music
- have a greater string tension and when you start playing, it will hurt
after 10 minutes or less. Pressing down the string needs more force and
the strings are sharper, so pressure on the fingertips is larger. After
some time there is no problem anymore.

But: You can play folk or pop music on a classical guitar and the other
way around

I would advise to buy a guitar for left handers (I'm not sure if there
are lefty classical guitars though, perhaps you can simply string them
in reverse order.

Perhaps most important: make sure the guitar is set up right, with low
action. That is: the strings are close to the fretboard. Thats easier to
play. A decent guitar can be set up right. Playability is more important
than the tone or sound of the guitar.

Also important: your daughter must be happy with the guitar, for my kids
that means that if everyone else uses a folk guitar, they would like to
have one as well. I guess most kids will have a classical one though.

Gerard

Reply from: Rick N. Backer
Date: 19 May 2008, 04:04
Re: What guitar do I buy for my daughter?

On Thu, 15 May 2008 13:03:22 +0200, "G. Verhoef"
<Gerard_Verhoef@hotmail,com > did courageously avow:

>Gags wrote:
>> My daughter's school is offering guitar lessons and she wants to take them
>> up. I got the flyer today and it says that she will need access to a nylon
>> string or folk guitar and that she will be learning guitar chords and music
>> notation on the treble clef.
>>
>> As I have no idea of what any of this means I am hoping that someone may be
>> able to give me some advice on what sort of guitar I should be looking at
>> buying her to start out with. I would appreciate any advice on what sort of
>> guitar would best suit an 8 y.o. girl as a starting point.
>>
>> My daughter is also left handed - do I need to buy her a left handed guitar
>> or do they just string a normal one upside down??
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any responses.
>>
>> Gags
>>
>>
>Nylon string guitars (also called classical or Spanish guitars)
>- are (in my opinion) easier to play for young kids (they don't hurt the
>fretting fingers);
>- sound different, have a more mellow sound, meant for classical music
>(or Spanish music)
>
>Folk guitars
>- are typically meant for folk / pop music
>- have a greater string tension and when you start playing, it will hurt
>after 10 minutes or less. Pressing down the string needs more force and
>the strings are sharper, so pressure on the fingertips is larger. After
>some time there is no problem anymore.
>
>But: You can play folk or pop music on a classical guitar and the other
>way around
>
>I would advise to buy a guitar for left handers (I'm not sure if there
>are lefty classical guitars though, perhaps you can simply string them
>in reverse order.
>
>Perhaps most important: make sure the guitar is set up right, with low
>action. That is: the strings are close to the fretboard. Thats easier to
>play. A decent guitar can be set up right. Playability is more important
>than the tone or sound of the guitar.
>
>Also important: your daughter must be happy with the guitar, for my kids
>that means that if everyone else uses a folk guitar, they would like to
>have one as well. I guess most kids will have a classical one though.
>
>Gerard

I would add consider renting if there is any doubt your daughter might
change her mind. Also, go to the store with her and enlist the help
of the staff. Maybe they can have her try some simple things to see
what actually suits her or is at most a reasonable challenge a
beginner would overcome without difficulty.

--
Ken Wilson
http :// www .myspace,com /bcislander

Reply from: ARLOWE
Date: 15 May 2008, 13:29
Re: What guitar do I buy for my daughter?

Gags submitted this idea :
> My daughter's school is offering guitar lessons and she wants to take them
> up. I got the flyer today and it says that she will need access to a nylon
> string or folk guitar and that she will be learning guitar chords and music
> notation on the treble clef.
>
> As I have no idea of what any of this means I am hoping that someone may be
> able to give me some advice on what sort of guitar I should be looking at
> buying her to start out with. I would appreciate any advice on what sort of
> guitar would best suit an 8 y.o. girl as a starting point.
>
> My daughter is also left handed - do I need to buy her a left handed guitar
> or do they just string a normal one upside down??
>
> Thanks in advance for any responses.
>
> Gags

You may want to rent a guitar for her at first...If she is still
interested in 3 months then might be the time to buy her one.



Reply from: Sean
Date: 15 May 2008, 16:28
Re: What guitar do I buy for my daughter?

ARLOWE wrote:
> Gags submitted this idea :
>> My daughter's school is offering guitar lessons and she wants to take
>> them up. I got the flyer today and it says that she will need access
>> to a nylon string or folk guitar and that she will be learning guitar
>> chords and music notation on the treble clef.
>>
>> As I have no idea of what any of this means I am hoping that someone
>> may be able to give me some advice on what sort of guitar I should be
>> looking at buying her to start out with. I would appreciate any advice
>> on what sort of guitar would best suit an 8 y.o. girl as a starting
>> point.
>>
>> My daughter is also left handed - do I need to buy her a left handed
>> guitar or do they just string a normal one upside down??
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any responses.
>>
>> Gags
>
> You may want to rent a guitar for her at first...If she is still
> interested in 3 months then might be the time to buy her one.
>
>

That's good advice. One caveat though: Sometimes those rental guitars
are pretty horrible, and could turn a kid off the instrument.
OP, do know anyone who plays guitar? Ideally, you'd have a somewhat
knowledgeable acquaintance go with you when you rent or buy the guitar
so that they can check to see that the thing is playable.

Reply from: William Black
Date: 15 May 2008, 14:07
Re: What guitar do I buy for my daughter?


"Gags" <gagsunderscore44@tpg,com .au> wrote in message
news:482c12d6@dnews.tpgi,com .au...
> My daughter's school is offering guitar lessons and she wants to take them
> up. I got the flyer today and it says that she will need access to a
> nylon string or folk guitar and that she will be learning guitar chords
> and music notation on the treble clef.
>
> As I have no idea of what any of this means I am hoping that someone may
> be able to give me some advice on what sort of guitar I should be looking
> at buying her to start out with. I would appreciate any advice on what
> sort of guitar would best suit an 8 y.o. girl as a starting point.
>
> My daughter is also left handed - do I need to buy her a left handed
> guitar or do they just string a normal one upside down??
>
> Thanks in advance for any responses.
>

Well in the UK the Yamaha F310 (a 'folk' guitar) has become almost the
standard acoustic guitar for school kids to learn on.

You can buy a kit complete with guitar, strap and other bits for under £80.

However left handed versions seem to be scarce...

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.




Reply from: Angof
Date: 15 May 2008, 18:05
Re: What guitar do I buy for my daughter?


"William Black" <william.black@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:g0h916$ot3$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>
> "Gags" <gagsunderscore44@tpg,com .au> wrote in message
> news:482c12d6@dnews.tpgi,com .au...
>> My daughter's school is offering guitar lessons and she wants to take
>> them up. I got the flyer today and it says that she will need access to
>> a nylon string or folk guitar and that she will be learning guitar chords
>> and music notation on the treble clef.
>>
>> As I have no idea of what any of this means I am hoping that someone may
>> be able to give me some advice on what sort of guitar I should be looking
>> at buying her to start out with. I would appreciate any advice on what
>> sort of guitar would best suit an 8 y.o. girl as a starting point.
>>
>> My daughter is also left handed - do I need to buy her a left handed
>> guitar or do they just string a normal one upside down??
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any responses.
>>
>
> Well in the UK the Yamaha F310 (a 'folk' guitar) has become almost the
> standard acoustic guitar for school kids to learn on.
>
> You can buy a kit complete with guitar, strap and other bits for under
> £80.
>
> However left handed versions seem to be scarce...
>
> --
> William Black

I'm left handed and play right handed by preference, always have. don't
assume 'handedness'when choosing a guitar. I think you'll need to see what
comes naturally to her. It may be worth booking her in with a guitar tutor
just for one session to assess her learning needs in terms of a guitar to
buy.

Angof



Reply from: David L. Martel
Date: 15 May 2008, 18:36
Re: What guitar do I buy for my daughter?

Gags,

Take her with you and look for guitars she can hold comfortably. At 8 yrs
she may need a 3/4 rather than a full size guitar.
Ok, you've figured out what size guitar is good. Now decide on nylon or
steel strung. Nylon strung guitars are easy to fret but the fret board is
very wide Nylon strings take a long time to settle in when they are replaced
which can be a real nuisance. Steel strings can be tough on beginner fingers
till callusses form. Steel strung guitars are more common for today's pop
music but you can use either type of guitar as a beginner
I'm right handed so this isn't my fight but I'd recommend that she learn
to play on a right handed guitar. There is a much wider selection of
guitars. Since she'll be doing something new with each hand she may have no
trouble with a right hand guitar. I really don't recommend she play a guitar
upside down.
Download a tuner and a metronome from the internet. There are plenty of
free ones. I like the Audio Phonics tuner.
Don't forget to get a case or a gig bag. I recommend a case since an 8 yr
old may not treat the guitar too gently. Buy a cheap music stand. . Buy a
footstool. Buy a peg winder. Ask whether folks use case humidifiers in your
locale.
Expect to replace the strings every 2-3 monthes. After she's had the
guitar for 3 monthes take it to a luthier's shop to see if it needs a set
up.

Dave M.



Reply from: Charmed Snark
Date: 15 May 2008, 18:52
Re: What guitar do I buy for my daughter?

David L. Martel expounded in
news:D4GdnYJCn-jh-7HVnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@earthlink,com :

> Gags,
>
> Take her with you and look for guitars she can hold comfortably. At
> 8 yrs
> she may need a 3/4 rather than a full size guitar.
> Ok, you've figured out what size guitar is good. Now decide on
> nylon or
> steel strung. Nylon strung guitars are easy to fret but the fret board
> is very wide Nylon strings take a long time to settle in when they are
> replaced which can be a real nuisance.

Get a child sized classical. Their
fretboards are not too wide for a child
(they're durn small!)

Snark.
** Posted from http :// www .teranews,com **

Reply from: Charmed Snark
Date: 15 May 2008, 18:43
Re: What guitar do I buy for my daughter?

Gags expounded in news:482c12d6@dnews.tpgi,com .au:

> My daughter's school is offering guitar lessons and she wants to take
> them up. I got the flyer today and it says that she will need access
> to a nylon string or folk guitar and that she will be learning guitar

As the others have said, this is sugesting a
classical guitar. There are some classical
guitars made that have smaller necks-- presumably
targeted for children. I know because before I
got into this, we had purchased one cheap and
repaired it. However, when I pick it up, the
strings are much too close together for me to
play it well. A child however, would find it
comfortable.

> chords and music notation on the treble clef.

This just means that she'll be learning from
standard notation, which is a good thing.

As for the guitar, check out the many instruments
coming from Asia these days. These CNC made
instruments are not too bad and can be obtained
cheap. But don't get the under $100 kind, unless
you really know something about its quality. In
the "lowest price is the law" range, you are
likely to get an Estaban instrument!

Snark.
** Posted from http :// www .teranews,com **

Reply from: Tony Done
Date: 15 May 2008, 22:26
Re: What guitar do I buy for my daughter?


"Gags" <gagsunderscore44@tpg,com .au> wrote in message
news:482c12d6@dnews.tpgi,com .au...
> My daughter's school is offering guitar lessons and she wants to take them
> up. I got the flyer today and it says that she will need access to a
> nylon string or folk guitar and that she will be learning guitar chords
> and music notation on the treble clef.
>
> As I have no idea of what any of this means I am hoping that someone may
> be able to give me some advice on what sort of guitar I should be looking
> at buying her to start out with. I would appreciate any advice on what
> sort of guitar would best suit an 8 y.o. girl as a starting point.
>
> My daughter is also left handed - do I need to buy her a left handed
> guitar or do they just string a normal one upside down??
>
> Thanks in advance for any responses.
>
> Gags
>

The question of handedness is interesting, and always seems to cause heated
debate among guitar players. My take on this is that if she is only weakly
left handed, then she may be better learning to play right handed, but there
is absolutely no consensus on this. A bit internet research would find info
on weak and strong handedness; apart from guitar choices, you might find it
interesting anyway.

Tony D



Reply from: ARLOWE
Date: 15 May 2008, 22:48
Re: What guitar do I buy for my daughter?

Tony Done used his keyboard to write :
> "Gags" <gagsunderscore44@tpg,com .au> wrote in message
> news:482c12d6@dnews.tpgi,com .au...
>> My daughter's school is offering guitar lessons and she wants to take them
>> up. I got the flyer today and it says that she will need access to a
>> nylon string or folk guitar and that she will be learning guitar chords and
>> music notation on the treble clef.
>>
>> As I have no idea of what any of this means I am hoping that someone may be
>> able to give me some advice on what sort of guitar I should be looking at
>> buying her to start out with. I would appreciate any advice on what sort of
>> guitar would best suit an 8 y.o. girl as a starting point.
>>
>> My daughter is also left handed - do I need to buy her a left handed guitar
>> or do they just string a normal one upside down??
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any responses.
>>
>> Gags
>>
>
> The question of handedness is interesting, and always seems to cause heated
> debate among guitar players. My take on this is that if she is only weakly
> left handed, then she may be better learning to play right handed, but there
> is absolutely no consensus on this. A bit internet research would find info
> on weak and strong handedness; apart from guitar choices, you might find it
> interesting anyway.
>
> Tony D

As a kid I played Bass Violin in the school orchestra. I recall a girl
in our group who played violin and she was left handed. She was taught
to play right handed. She quickly caught on and became very good, so
good that she held first chair for the 3 years I was in the orchestra.
Maybe she was just a natural...but even if she was learning oposite
hand didn't seem to hinder her.
Just food for thought...



Reply from: Tony Done
Date: 15 May 2008, 23:09
Re: What guitar do I buy for my daughter?


"ARLOWE" <ARLOWE@nose.picker,com > wrote in message
news:mn.81987d8546af3a4a.90583@nose.picker,com ...
> Tony Done used his keyboard to write :
>> "Gags" <gagsunderscore44@tpg,com .au> wrote in message
>> news:482c12d6@dnews.tpgi,com .au...
>>> My daughter's school is offering guitar lessons and she wants to take
>>> them up. I got the flyer today and it says that she will need access to
>>> a nylon string or folk guitar and that she will be learning guitar
>>> chords and music notation on the treble clef.
>>>
>>> As I have no idea of what any of this means I am hoping that someone may
>>> be able to give me some advice on what sort of guitar I should be
>>> looking at buying her to start out with. I would appreciate any advice
>>> on what sort of guitar would best suit an 8 y.o. girl as a starting
>>> point.
>>>
>>> My daughter is also left handed - do I need to buy her a left handed
>>> guitar or do they just string a normal one upside down??
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any responses.
>>>
>>> Gags
>>>
>>
>> The question of handedness is interesting, and always seems to cause
>> heated debate among guitar players. My take on this is that if she is
>> only weakly left handed, then she may be better learning to play right
>> handed, but there is absolutely no consensus on this. A bit internet
>> research would find info on weak and strong handedness; apart from guitar
>> choices, you might find it interesting anyway.
>>
>> Tony D
>
> As a kid I played Bass Violin in the school orchestra. I recall a girl in
> our group who played violin and she was left handed. She was taught to
> play right handed. She quickly caught on and became very good, so good
> that she held first chair for the 3 years I was in the orchestra.
> Maybe she was just a natural...but even if she was learning oposite hand
> didn't seem to hinder her.
> Just food for thought...
>
>

Yeah, the sum of anecdotal evidence that I have seen suggests to me that is
related to strong and weak handedness, which isn't that obvious in an
individual unless they are truly ambidextrous - this is the ultimate
"weak-handedness" - but it is easily tested. Degree of handedness also
applies to right handers.

What isn't obvious to me is whether strong left handers can learn to play
right-handed. For example, there are no left-handed pianos, but are there
fewer strongly left-handed pianists than you would expect by chance, and are
they as good on average as right handers?

Tony D



Reply from: RichL
Date: 17 May 2008, 02:17
Re: What guitar do I buy for my daughter?

Tony Done <tonydone@bigpond,com > wrote:
> "ARLOWE" <ARLOWE@nose.picker,com > wrote in message
> news:mn.81987d8546af3a4a.90583@nose.picker,com ...
>> Tony Done used his keyboard to write :
>>> "Gags" <gagsunderscore44@tpg,com .au> wrote in message
>>> news:482c12d6@dnews.tpgi,com .au...
>>>> My daughter's school is offering guitar lessons and she wants to
>>>> take them up. I got the flyer today and it says that she will
>>>> need access to a nylon string or folk guitar and that she will be
>>>> learning guitar chords and music notation on the treble clef.
>>>>
>>>> As I have no idea of what any of this means I am hoping that
>>>> someone may be able to give me some advice on what sort of guitar
>>>> I should be looking at buying her to start out with. I would
>>>> appreciate any advice on what sort of guitar would best suit an 8
>>>> y.o. girl as a starting point.
>>>>
>>>> My daughter is also left handed - do I need to buy her a left
>>>> handed guitar or do they just string a normal one upside down??
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for any responses.
>>>>
>>>> Gags
>>>>
>>>
>>> The question of handedness is interesting, and always seems to cause
>>> heated debate among guitar players. My take on this is that if she
>>> is only weakly left handed, then she may be better learning to play
>>> right handed, but there is absolutely no consensus on this. A bit
>>> internet research would find info on weak and strong handedness;
>>> apart from guitar choices, you might find it interesting anyway.
>>>
>>> Tony D
>>
>> As a kid I played Bass Violin in the school orchestra. I recall a
>> girl in our group who played violin and she was left handed. She was
>> taught to play right handed. She quickly caught on and became very
>> good, so good that she held first chair for the 3 years I was in the
>> orchestra.
>> Maybe she was just a natural...but even if she was learning oposite
>> hand didn't seem to hinder her.
>> Just food for thought...
>>
>>
>
> Yeah, the sum of anecdotal evidence that I have seen suggests to me
> that is related to strong and weak handedness, which isn't that
> obvious in an individual unless they are truly ambidextrous - this is
> the ultimate "weak-handedness" - but it is easily tested. Degree of
> handedness also applies to right handers.
>
> What isn't obvious to me is whether strong left handers can learn to
> play right-handed. For example, there are no left-handed pianos, but
> are there fewer strongly left-handed pianists than you would expect
> by chance, and are they as good on average as right handers?
>
> Tony D

At high playing levels, dexterity with both hands on piano is an
advantage.



Reply from: Lumpy
Date: 16 May 2008, 01:06
Re: What guitar do I buy for my daughter?

ARLOWE wrote:
> As a kid I played Bass Violin in the school orchestra. I recall a girl
> in our group who played violin and she was left handed. She was taught
> to play right handed. She quickly caught on and became very good, so
> good that she held first chair for the 3 years I was in the orchestra.
> Maybe she was just a natural...but even if she was learning oposite
> hand didn't seem to hinder her.
> Just food for thought...

I've never seen a left handed violin.
For that matter, I've never seen any
instruments left handed except guitars.


Lumpy

In Your Ears for 40 Years
www .LumpyMusic,com





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