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Jimix Hendrix - Hey Joe + Harmonica

Reply from: Stri
Date: 15 May 2008, 21:58
Jimix Hendrix - Hey Joe + Harmonica

Hi, I'm trying to play Hey Joe and trying to get harmonica in with
it.

I normally just change the guitar key by fretting it. But I thought
Hey Joe was in C or E but it isn't. Some help here would be great,

Cheers

Scotti

Reply from: RichL
Date: 15 May 2008, 23:02
Re: Jimix Hendrix - Hey Joe + Harmonica

Stri <geordiekid@gmail,com > wrote:
> Hi, I'm trying to play Hey Joe and trying to get harmonica in with
> it.
>
> I normally just change the guitar key by fretting it. But I thought
> Hey Joe was in C or E but it isn't. Some help here would be great,
>
> Cheers
>
> Scotti

The chords to Hendrix's version are C G D A E. We could argue all day
about what key it's in.

I think though that if you used a harmonica that's in the key of G you'd
be matching pretty much all the important notes in the song. Mainly
they're from Em pentatonic, with a C# note thrown in here or there.



Reply from: Stri
Date: 15 May 2008, 23:38
Re: Jimix Hendrix - Hey Joe + Harmonica

Thanks a lot RichL

> > Hi, I'm trying to play Hey Joe and trying to get harmonica in with
> > it.
>
> > I normally just change the guitar key by fretting it. But I thought
> > Hey Joe was in C or E but it isn't. Some help here would be great,
>
> > Cheers
>
> > Scotti
>
> The chords to Hendrix's version are C G D A E. We could argue all day
> about what key it's in.
>
> I think though that if you used a harmonica that's in the key of G you'd
> be matching pretty much all the important notes in the song. Mainly
> they're from Em pentatonic, with a C# note thrown in here or there.


Reply from: Rufus
Date: 16 May 2008, 02:23
Re: Jimix Hendrix - Hey Joe + Harmonica

RichL wrote:
> Stri <geordiekid@gmail,com > wrote:
>> Hi, I'm trying to play Hey Joe and trying to get harmonica in with
>> it.
>>
>> I normally just change the guitar key by fretting it. But I thought
>> Hey Joe was in C or E but it isn't. Some help here would be great,
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Scotti
>
> The chords to Hendrix's version are C G D A E. We could argue all day
> about what key it's in.
>
> I think though that if you used a harmonica that's in the key of G you'd
> be matching pretty much all the important notes in the song. Mainly
> they're from Em pentatonic, with a C# note thrown in here or there.
>
>

...if a G harp doesn't work, try a D.

--
- Rufus

Reply from: RichL
Date: 16 May 2008, 05:50
Re: Jimix Hendrix - Hey Joe + Harmonica

Rufus <not@home,com > wrote:
> RichL wrote:
>> Stri <geordiekid@gmail,com > wrote:
>>> Hi, I'm trying to play Hey Joe and trying to get harmonica in with
>>> it.
>>>
>>> I normally just change the guitar key by fretting it. But I thought
>>> Hey Joe was in C or E but it isn't. Some help here would be great,
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Scotti
>>
>> The chords to Hendrix's version are C G D A E. We could argue all
>> day about what key it's in.
>>
>> I think though that if you used a harmonica that's in the key of G
>> you'd be matching pretty much all the important notes in the song.
>> Mainly they're from Em pentatonic, with a C# note thrown in here or
>> there.
>>
>>
>
> ...if a G harp doesn't work, try a D.

Yeah, that'll have the C#.



Reply from: Inyo
Date: 16 May 2008, 21:40
Re: Jimix Hendrix - Hey Joe + Harmonica

On May 15, 2:02=EF=BF=BDpm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> Stri <geordie...@gmail,com > wrote:
> > Hi, I'm trying to play Hey Joe and trying to get harmonica in with
> > it.
>
> > I normally just change the guitar key by fretting it. But I thought
> > Hey Joe was in C or E but it isn't. Some help here would be great,
>
> > Cheers
>
> > Scotti
>
> The chords to Hendrix's version are C G D A E. =EF=BF=BDWe could argue all=
day
> about what key it's in.

Yes, I agree. Your chord sequence to Hey Joe is correct, at least the
way I recollect it.

But...I always liked to start the Hendrix arrangement of Hey Joe (my
favorite version of Hey Joe is by The Leaves, Billboard Top 40, 1966)
with a D, which then transposes into Bflat to F to C to G to D. That
way you can work in the classic Hendrix intro to Hey Joe with fluid
ease and hit those great licks out of D between verses, as well--a
lick most folks here have probably heard: rapid fire notes--A to C to
D to F to D to F to D (sounds a lot like the well-known lick on
Traffic's "Mr. Fantasy").

My SoundClick Page of original solo, acoustic, instrumental 6 and 12-
string guitar compositions
http :// www .soundclick,com /bands/default.cfm?bandID=3D817226&content=3Dmusic

Reply from: Lumpy
Date: 16 May 2008, 01:04
Re: Jimix Hendrix - Hey Joe + Harmonica

Stri wrote:
> ... I thought
> Hey Joe was in C or E but it isn't...

It's in whatever key you play it in.


Lumpy

In Your Ears for 40 Years
www .LumpyMusic,com




Reply from: Stri
Date: 16 May 2008, 01:57
Re: Jimix Hendrix - Hey Joe + Harmonica

On 16 May, 00:04, "Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography,com > wrote:
> Stri wrote:
> > ... I thought
> > Hey Joe was in C or E but it isn't...
>
> It's in whatever key you play it in.
>
> Lumpy
>
> In Your Ears for 40 Years
> www .LumpyMusic,com

Hello Lumpy, thanks for replying. If you're referring to tranposing.
I'm not familiar with that yet.

Reply from: Lumpy
Date: 16 May 2008, 02:02
Re: Jimix Hendrix - Hey Joe + Harmonica

Stri wrote:
> ... If you're referring to tranposing.
> I'm not familiar with that yet.

Move that capo till it matches your harp.

Or play it (on guitar) however you know how,
and get the appropriate key harp,

Are you playing straight or cross harp
with HJ?


Lumpy

In Your Ears for 40 Years
www .LumpyMusic,com




Reply from: Stri
Date: 16 May 2008, 02:26
Re: Jimix Hendrix - Hey Joe + Harmonica

On 16 May, 01:02, "Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography,com > wrote:
> Stri wrote:
> > ... If you're referring to tranposing.
> > I'm not familiar with that yet.
>
> Move that capo till it matches your harp.
>
> Or play it (on guitar) however you know how,
> and get the appropriate key harp,
>
> Are you playing straight or cross harp
> with HJ?
>
> Lumpy
>
> In Your Ears for 40 Years
> www .LumpyMusic,com

Hi Lumpy, yeah I've tried that.

I've either missed the capo fret (which I doubt) or missing something
else, don't know what.

Normally I figure out the key (which for me has often been the
starting note) and then pick the harp. If required capo the neck to
raise it to the key of the guitar o that of the harp.

I've tried, but when I try C harp (without capo'ing) it sounds wrong.
I think I'll give G a go as RichL said tomorrow when there aren't
people to wake up.

Reply from: Lumpy
Date: 16 May 2008, 02:36
Re: Jimix Hendrix - Hey Joe + Harmonica

Lump:
> > Move that capo till it matches your harp.

stri:
> Hi Lumpy, yeah I've tried that.
>
> I've either missed the capo fret
> (which I doubt) or missing something
> else, don't know what.

Unless you skip some frets while moving the
capo, you're going to pass through every
key possible in 12 frets.

Try open.
If no success, try first.
If no success, try 2nd.
If no success, try 3rd etc.

If none of them seem to fit, perhaps HJ
can't be played on a blues harp. That
song isn't exactly 12 bar blues. Nor
is it in a conventional key. It's got
a bunch of chords that don't naturally
fit together in any key.


Lumpy

In Your Ears for 40 Years
www .LumpyMusic,com






Reply from: Rufus
Date: 16 May 2008, 02:44
Re: Jimix Hendrix - Hey Joe + Harmonica

Stri wrote:
> On 16 May, 01:02, "Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography,com > wrote:
>> Stri wrote:
>>> ... If you're referring to tranposing.
>>> I'm not familiar with that yet.
>> Move that capo till it matches your harp.
>>
>> Or play it (on guitar) however you know how,
>> and get the appropriate key harp,
>>
>> Are you playing straight or cross harp
>> with HJ?
>>
>> Lumpy
>>
>> In Your Ears for 40 Years
>> www .LumpyMusic,com
>
> Hi Lumpy, yeah I've tried that.
>
> I've either missed the capo fret (which I doubt) or missing something
> else, don't know what.
>
> Normally I figure out the key (which for me has often been the
> starting note) and then pick the harp. If required capo the neck to
> raise it to the key of the guitar o that of the harp.
>
> I've tried, but when I try C harp (without capo'ing) it sounds wrong.
> I think I'll give G a go as RichL said tomorrow when there aren't
> people to wake up.

From what harp players have told me, you select the harp one full step
down from the key of the song - so if it's in C, you'd want an A#/Bb harp.

...but I'd call it E, and try a D harp and see what you get. I play the
lead for Hey Joe in E.

--
- Rufus

Reply from: RichL
Date: 16 May 2008, 05:54
Re: Jimix Hendrix - Hey Joe + Harmonica

Rufus <not@home,com > wrote:
> Stri wrote:
>> On 16 May, 01:02, "Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography,com > wrote:
>>> Stri wrote:
>>>> ... If you're referring to tranposing.
>>>> I'm not familiar with that yet.
>>> Move that capo till it matches your harp.
>>>
>>> Or play it (on guitar) however you know how,
>>> and get the appropriate key harp,
>>>
>>> Are you playing straight or cross harp
>>> with HJ?
>>>
>>> Lumpy
>>>
>>> In Your Ears for 40 Years
>>> www .LumpyMusic,com
>>
>> Hi Lumpy, yeah I've tried that.
>>
>> I've either missed the capo fret (which I doubt) or missing something
>> else, don't know what.
>>
>> Normally I figure out the key (which for me has often been the
>> starting note) and then pick the harp. If required capo the neck to
>> raise it to the key of the guitar o that of the harp.
>>
>> I've tried, but when I try C harp (without capo'ing) it sounds wrong.
>> I think I'll give G a go as RichL said tomorrow when there aren't
>> people to wake up.
>
> From what harp players have told me, you select the harp one full
> step down from the key of the song - so if it's in C, you'd want an
> A#/Bb harp.
>
> ...but I'd call it E, and try a D harp and see what you get. I play
> the lead for Hey Joe in E.

Although there's an E chord in the song, if you listen to the lead it's
mainly Em pent. First four notes in the solo are E (bent up from D), B,
A, G. But the D harp will work for this, as will a G.



Reply from: Greg Cisko
Date: 16 May 2008, 08:25
Re: Jimix Hendrix - Hey Joe + Harmonica

"RichL" <rpleavitt@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:Jz7Xj.7725$0h.1922@trnddc02...
> Although there's an E chord in the song, if you listen to the lead it's
> mainly Em pent. First four notes in the solo are E (bent up from D), B,
> A, G. But the D harp will work for this, as will a G.

Em pent is correct. Not sure about that harp and very interested in that.
If you know what harp to use for the wizard, it would be most appreciated.

--

gcisko@hotmail,com

The Pentatonic Scale Explained
http :// bluechainlightning,net





Reply from: Rufus
Date: 16 May 2008, 21:12
Re: Jimix Hendrix - Hey Joe + Harmonica

RichL wrote:
> Rufus <not@home,com > wrote:
>> Stri wrote:
>>> On 16 May, 01:02, "Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography,com > wrote:
>>>> Stri wrote:
>>>>> ... If you're referring to tranposing.
>>>>> I'm not familiar with that yet.
>>>> Move that capo till it matches your harp.
>>>>
>>>> Or play it (on guitar) however you know how,
>>>> and get the appropriate key harp,
>>>>
>>>> Are you playing straight or cross harp
>>>> with HJ?
>>>>
>>>> Lumpy
>>>>
>>>> In Your Ears for 40 Years
>>>> www .LumpyMusic,com
>>> Hi Lumpy, yeah I've tried that.
>>>
>>> I've either missed the capo fret (which I doubt) or missing something
>>> else, don't know what.
>>>
>>> Normally I figure out the key (which for me has often been the
>>> starting note) and then pick the harp. If required capo the neck to
>>> raise it to the key of the guitar o that of the harp.
>>>
>>> I've tried, but when I try C harp (without capo'ing) it sounds wrong.
>>> I think I'll give G a go as RichL said tomorrow when there aren't
>>> people to wake up.
>> From what harp players have told me, you select the harp one full
>> step down from the key of the song - so if it's in C, you'd want an
>> A#/Bb harp.
>>
>> ...but I'd call it E, and try a D harp and see what you get. I play
>> the lead for Hey Joe in E.
>
> Although there's an E chord in the song, if you listen to the lead it's
> mainly Em pent. First four notes in the solo are E (bent up from D), B,
> A, G. But the D harp will work for this, as will a G.
>
>

...that's what I was thinking.

--
- Rufus


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