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Please note that Paylessguitars are crooks.

Reply from: jararm@gmail,com
Date: 17 May 2008, 07:57
Please note that Paylessguitars are crooks.

Please note that Paylessguitars are crooks. On their website
playlessguitars,com they offer a "Genuine" Epiphone guitar for sale. I
unfortunately tested their offer and received a crappy Chinese copy.

http :// jararm.googlepages,com /paylessguitarssuck

Reply from: nog
Date: 17 May 2008, 09:21
Re: Please note that Paylessguitars are crooks.

On Fri, 16 May 2008 22:57:29 -0700 (PDT), jararm@gmail,com wrote:

> Please note that Paylessguitars are crooks. On their website
> playlessguitars,com they offer a "Genuine" Epiphone guitar for sale. I
> unfortunately tested their offer and received a crappy Chinese copy.
>
> http :// jararm.googlepages,com /paylessguitarssuck

You sound surprised.

Reply from: Lumpy
Date: 17 May 2008, 16:17
Re: Please note that Paylessguitars are crooks.


jararm:
> > Please note that Paylessguitars are crooks. On their website
> > playlessguitars,com they offer a "Genuine" Epiphone guitar for
> > sale. I unfortunately tested their offer and received a crappy
> > Chinese copy.

nog:
> You sound surprised.

A Chinese copy of a genuine Chinese copy.


Lumpy

In Your Ears for 40 Years
www .LumpyMusic,com




Reply from: kitekrazy
Date: 17 May 2008, 19:02
Re: Please note that Paylessguitars are crooks.

jararm@gmail,com wrote:
> Please note that Paylessguitars are crooks. On their website
> playlessguitars,com they offer a "Genuine" Epiphone guitar for sale. I
> unfortunately tested their offer and received a crappy Chinese copy.
>
> http :// jararm.googlepages,com /paylessguitarssuck

They don't even have a website.

Reply from: Angof
Date: 17 May 2008, 22:43
Re: Please note that Paylessguitars are crooks.


"kitekrazy" <kitekrazy@sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
news:YcEXj.5680$r82.543@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc,com ...
> jararm@gmail,com wrote:
>> Please note that Paylessguitars are crooks. On their website
>> playlessguitars,com they offer a "Genuine" Epiphone guitar for sale. I
>> unfortunately tested their offer and received a crappy Chinese copy.
>>
>> http :// jararm.googlepages,com /paylessguitarssuck
>
> They don't even have a website.


Oh yes they do:

http :// www .paylessguitars,com /bproducts.asp

They are selling Gibson Les Paul Customs for $250

PRODUCT NAME : Gibson Les Paul Custom Shop Guitar
ITEM NUMBER : 0008
CONDITION :BRAND NEW
PACKING WEIGHT :11KG
OUR PRICE :250(USD)
SHIPPING COST :110(USD)

I can't believe anyone would actually buy from them.

This is from their 'about us' page

"We have our own guitar factory and we can make any kind of guitar with any
kind of logo you want."


Angof



Reply from: Cyberserf
Date: 17 May 2008, 23:23
Re: Please note that Paylessguitars are crooks.

On May 17, 3:43 pm, "Angof" <an...@nospam,com > wrote:
> "kitekrazy" <kitekr...@sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
>
> news:YcEXj.5680$r82.543@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc,com ...
>
> > jar...@gmail,com wrote:
> >> Please note that Paylessguitars are crooks. On their website
> >> playlessguitars,com they offer a "Genuine" Epiphone guitar for sale. I
> >> unfortunately tested their offer and received a crappy Chinese copy.
>
> >> http :// jararm.googlepages,com /paylessguitarssuck
>
> > They don't even have a website.
>
> Oh yes they do:
>
> http :// www .paylessguitars,com /bproducts.asp
>
> They are selling Gibson Les Paul Customs for $250
>
> PRODUCT NAME : Gibson Les Paul Custom Shop Guitar
> ITEM NUMBER : 0008
> CONDITION :BRAND NEW
> PACKING WEIGHT :11KG
> OUR PRICE :250(USD)
> SHIPPING COST :110(USD)
>
> I can't believe anyone would actually buy from them.
>
> This is from their 'about us' page
>
> "We have our own guitar factory and we can make any kind of guitar with any
> kind of logo you want."
>
> Angof

Gotta love them Ricken Baker's and Eddie's Frank en Karmer's
(?)....LOL...

Seriously though, bad enough to have the Logo rips but to put a serial
on the back and emboss "Made in the USA" when you state (as they do on
their "About Us" page),

"....All the musical instruments are fabricated in our China factory ,
and all the guitar accessories , like pickups , etc. , are imported
from Korea . "

That just sucks.

Don't get me wrong, the site is dead honest...they say it straight: We
make rip-offs...and our prices prove it...but we make 'em good.

Good enough that it could really tests the moral fiber of whoever re-
sells the buggers... I've not seen one live, but from the pics, I'm
not sure I could tell one from the real McCoy (particularly if they
put lead weights in 'em).

The Asian label does not bother me much...Fact is, most Epi's have
been made in Asia for decades...Samick (Korea and Indonesia) is the
biggest instrument maker on the planet (making "spec" guitars for 70%
of the market). Doesn't mean they're bad...but Caveat Emptor fur
sure,,,Like Feilo in China and the bulk of current discount condenser
microphones... hey, dat's Wock and Wole, but wow...ripping off Zakk
Wylde...that really takes balls of steel.

-C[sigh]S

Reply from: Mitch@_._
Date: 17 May 2008, 23:45
Re: Please note that Paylessguitars are crooks.

On Sat, 17 May 2008 21:43:42 +0100, "Angof" <angof@nospam,com > wrote:

>They are selling Gibson Les Paul Customs for $250

What does the real thing go for?

Reply from: Angof
Date: 17 May 2008, 23:59
Re: Please note that Paylessguitars are crooks.


<Mitch@_._> wrote in message
news:7fku24tup1csdaj8cn6ko249mtr0031t52@4ax,com ...
> On Sat, 17 May 2008 21:43:42 +0100, "Angof" <angof@nospam,com > wrote:
>
>>They are selling Gibson Les Paul Customs for $250
>
> What does the real thing go for?

Dude just google for gibson Les Paul Custom and you get loads of hits. Its
about £2000, but are probably sold stateside for $3000-$3500

Angof



Reply from: Alai
Date: 20 May 2008, 18:07
Re: Please note that Paylessguitars are crooks.

"Angof" <angof@nospam,com > wrote in message
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>
> "kitekrazy" <kitekrazy@sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
> news:YcEXj.5680$r82.543@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc,com ...
>> jararm@gmail,com wrote:
>>> Please note that Paylessguitars are crooks. On their website
>>> playlessguitars,com they offer a "Genuine" Epiphone guitar for sale. I
>>> unfortunately tested their offer and received a crappy Chinese copy.
>>>
>>> http :// jararm.googlepages,com /paylessguitarssuck
>>
>> They don't even have a website.
>
>
> Oh yes they do:
>
> http :// www .paylessguitars,com /bproducts.asp
>
> They are selling Gibson Les Paul Customs for $250
>
> PRODUCT NAME : Gibson Les Paul Custom Shop Guitar
> ITEM NUMBER : 0008
> CONDITION :BRAND NEW
> PACKING WEIGHT :11KG
> OUR PRICE :250(USD)
> SHIPPING COST :110(USD)
>
> I can't believe anyone would actually buy from them.
>
> This is from their 'about us' page
>
> "We have our own guitar factory and we can make any kind of guitar with
> any kind of logo you want."

Wowwy, that place is lawsuits waiting to happen.



Reply from: jararm@gmail,com
Date: 22 May 2008, 14:09
Re: Please note that Paylessguitars are crooks.

On May 21, 2:07 am, "Alai" <alai...@msn,com > wrote:
> "Angof" <an...@nospam,com > wrote in message
>
> news:Z8udnSbqKv m3rLVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@plusnet...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "kitekrazy" <kitekr...@sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
> >news:YcEXj.5680$r82.543@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc,com ...
> >> jar...@gmail,com wrote:
> >>> Please note that Paylessguitars are crooks. On their website
> >>> playlessguitars,com they offer a "Genuine" Epiphone guitar for sale. I
> >>> unfortunately tested their offer and received a crappy Chinese copy.
>
> >>> http :// jararm.googlepages,com /paylessguitarssuck
>
> >> They don't even have a website.
>
> > Oh yes they do:
>
> > http :// www .paylessguitars,com /bproducts.asp
>
> > They are selling Gibson Les Paul Customs for $250
>
> > PRODUCT NAME : Gibson Les Paul Custom Shop Guitar
> > ITEM NUMBER : 0008
> > CONDITION :BRAND NEW
> > PACKING WEIGHT :11KG
> > OUR PRICE :250(USD)
> > SHIPPING COST :110(USD)
>
> > I can't believe anyone would actually buy from them.
>
> > This is from their 'about us' page
>
> > "We have our own guitar factory and we can make any kind of guitar with
> > any kind of logo you want."
>
> Wowwy, that place is lawsuits waiting to happen.

I get a laugh when I see people talk about lawsuits when a Chinese
company is involved.
http :// jararm.googlepages,com /paylessguitarssuck

Reply from: Mitch@_._
Date: 17 May 2008, 20:51
Re: Please note that Paylessguitars are crooks.

On Fri, 16 May 2008 22:57:29 -0700 (PDT), jararm@gmail,com wrote:

>Please note that Paylessguitars are crooks. On their website
>playlessguitars,com they offer a "Genuine" Epiphone guitar for sale. I
>unfortunately tested their offer and received a crappy Chinese copy.
>
> http :// jararm.googlepages,com /paylessguitarssuck


I cheaped out on a Chinese accordion a few years ago and definitely
got what I paid for.




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