What guitar do I buy for my daughter?

Charmed Snark wrote:
> The thumb is in the wrong place.

Well then, do my tech.


Lumpy

In Your Ears for 40 Years
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Lumpy expounded in news:6974laF30n0skU1@mid.individual . net :

> Charmed Snark wrote:
>> The thumb is in the wrong place.
>
> Well then, do my tech.
>
> Lumpy

But I need the Desi Martha CD first.

SNark.
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ARLOWE wrote:
> Lumpy explained :
>> ARLOWE wrote:
>>> I really can't see any you couldn't
>>> play violin left handed....your
>>> fingering would be reversed as
>>> would your Bow position and direction.
>>
>> The violin would have to be rebuilt.
>> Nut, bridge, bracing, chin rest etc
>> are all built for right handed players.
>>
>> Just like a guitar, you can't simply
>> string it backwards.
>>
>>
>> Lumpy
>>
>> In Your Ears for 40 Years
>> w w w .LumpyMusic . com
>
> You wouldn't have to change the strings, just playing techique.
> Externally A violin is virually symetrical so there is nothing to stop
> you from holding the violin from the right (to play left handed)
>
> The chin rest is not part of the instument. It's an accessory like a
> capo. There are many players who don't use a chin rest.
> And unlike a guitar you can not play all of the strings at the same
> time. The maximum number of strings is two, maybe with a bit of force
> three strings. You would also have to push the bow to get the same sound
> as a right handed player drawing the bow.
>
> I guess it would be an iteresting exercise to give it a try...
>
> Of course OH&S rules would require that all musicians wear saftey
> glasses in the pit....
>
>

Here's something about violins.

* violin.koopal . com /violin-anatomy.htm

If one where to string a violin for a LH, The A and E strings would not
be very audible.

Lumpy wrote:
> ARLOWE wrote:
>> I really can't see any you couldn't
>> play violin left handed....your
>> fingering would be reversed as
>> would your Bow position and direction.
>
> The violin would have to be rebuilt.
> Nut, bridge, bracing, chin rest etc
> are all built for right handed players.
>
> Just like a guitar, you can't simply
> string it backwards.
>
>
> Lumpy
>
> In Your Ears for 40 Years
> w w w .LumpyMusic . com
>
>
>

Also the bass bar and sound post would have to be reversed.

You'll never get a job in an orchestra playing violin LH.

kitekrazy presented the following explanation :
> Lumpy wrote:
>> ARLOWE wrote:
>>> I really can't see any you couldn't
>>> play violin left handed....your
>>> fingering would be reversed as
>>> would your Bow position and direction.
>>
>> The violin would have to be rebuilt.
>> Nut, bridge, bracing, chin rest etc
>> are all built for right handed players.
>>
>> Just like a guitar, you can't simply
>> string it backwards.
>>
>>
>> Lumpy
>>
>> In Your Ears for 40 Years
>> w w w .LumpyMusic . com
>>
>>
>>
>
> Also the bass bar and sound post would have to be reversed.
>
> You'll never get a job in an orchestra playing violin LH.

I didn't say change the strings.... I said you can play left handed on
a standard violin as is no changes....just take it and stick it under
your right chin....

On Thu, 15 May 2008 20:39:18 +1000, "Gags"
<gagsunderscore44@tpg . com .au> wrote:

>My daughter's school is offering guitar lessons and she wants to take them
>up. I got the flyer today and it says that she will need access to a nylon
>string or folk guitar and that she will be learning guitar chords and music
>notation on the treble clef.
>
>As I have no idea of what any of this means I am hoping that someone may be
>able to give me some advice on what sort of guitar I should be looking at
>buying her to start out with. I would appreciate any advice on what sort of
>guitar would best suit an 8 y.o. girl as a starting point.
>
>My daughter is also left handed - do I need to buy her a left handed guitar
>or do they just string a normal one upside down??
>
>Thanks in advance for any responses.
>
>Gags
>

I think of the 100's of times I've been somewhere other than home and
picked up someone elses guitar & played. 99 times out of 100 that
wouldn't have happened if I played left handed. There's great demand
from each hand when playing guitar. I think anyone could learn to
play either way.

tgif,
tony

jimmy expounded in news:ftir24h4jod71u3msfeemk327g6o4l6v0b@4ax . com :

>>My daughter is also left handed - do I need to buy her a left handed
>>guitar or do they just string a normal one upside down??
..
> I think of the 100's of times I've been somewhere other than home and
> picked up someone elses guitar & played. 99 times out of 100 that
> wouldn't have happened if I played left handed. There's great demand
> from each hand when playing guitar. I think anyone could learn to
> play either way.
>
> tgif,
> tony

Well if GP magazine is any indicator, there seesm to
be several "stars" that were left handed and
succeeded at playing righty.

Snark.
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Well, depending on what your goals are after she either stops or continues
on... My recommendation, any of the Yamaha Classical guitars; great guitar
for the money, will not break the bank, and if she does decide to give it
up, you can always have a guitar around the house to either fool with or let
people barrow, etc..
"Gags" <gagsunderscore44@tpg . com .au> wrote in message
news:482c12d6@dnews.tpgi . com .au...
> My daughter's school is offering guitar lessons and she wants to take them
> up. I got the flyer today and it says that she will need access to a
> nylon string or folk guitar and that she will be learning guitar chords
> and music notation on the treble clef.
>
> As I have no idea of what any of this means I am hoping that someone may
> be able to give me some advice on what sort of guitar I should be looking
> at buying her to start out with. I would appreciate any advice on what
> sort of guitar would best suit an 8 y.o. girl as a starting point.
>
> My daughter is also left handed - do I need to buy her a left handed
> guitar or do they just string a normal one upside down??
>
> Thanks in advance for any responses.
>
> Gags
>

On Thu, 15 May 2008 20:39:18 +1000, "Gags"
<gagsunderscore44@tpg . com .au> wrote:

>My daughter's school is offering guitar lessons and she wants to take them
>up. I got the flyer today and it says that she will need access to a nylon
>string or folk guitar and that she will be learning guitar chords and music
>notation on the treble clef.
>
>As I have no idea of what any of this means I am hoping that someone may be
>able to give me some advice on what sort of guitar I should be looking at
>buying her to start out with. I would appreciate any advice on what sort of
>guitar would best suit an 8 y.o. girl as a starting point.
>
>My daughter is also left handed - do I need to buy her a left handed guitar
>or do they just string a normal one upside down??
>
>Thanks in advance for any responses.
>
>Gags
>

I agree that starting on a nylon stringed guitar is good for a
beginner. She will need a lefty guitar though. Good luck.

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jtees4 wrote:

> I agree that starting on a nylon stringed guitar is good for a
> beginner. She will need a lefty guitar though. Good luck.

She doesn't "need" a lefty.
She can choose to learn southpaw
but as others have continuously pointed out,
that will severely limit her choice of guitars
now and forever.


Lumpy

In Your Ears for 40 Years
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On Sun, 18 May 2008 13:08:23 -0700, "Lumpy"
<lumpy@digitalcartography . com > wrote:

>jtees4 wrote:
>
>> I agree that starting on a nylon stringed guitar is good for a
>> beginner. She will need a lefty guitar though. Good luck.
>
>She doesn't "need" a lefty.
>She can choose to learn southpaw
>but as others have continuously pointed out,
>that will severely limit her choice of guitars
>now and forever.
>
>
>Lumpy
>
>In Your Ears for 40 Years
> w w w .LumpyMusic . com
>
>


There are different types of Left Handedness.

The left hand is controlled by the right side of the brain.
The right hand is controlled by the left side of the brain.
Opposite sides (contralateral)

In Western (Occidental) countries, the Left side of the brain contains
the centers of logic. The left brain functions in an analytical
manner.
The right side of the brain is the creative /artistic side.

Left handedness does NOT mean that the brain's functions are reversed,
when compared to a right handed person.
Both Righty and Lefty still have the same neurological setup:
Right brain - Creative - controls the left hand
Left brain - Analytical- controls the right hand

Where right and left handedness differ, is in which side is dominant,
or more developed.
As kids grow it is not uncommon to switch handedness.
Ambidextrous - both hands are equally dominant.
There are varying degrees of dominance in handedness.
If a child were ambidextrous initially, They would learn to do things
like a righty, because of the way society builds, for a righty.

With a guitar you can easily see that it might be better if the
dominant hand , is associated with the creative areas of the brain.
Music is after all an art form. You can analyse music, and treat it
like a science.

The point could also be made that, with a guitar, it is better to
have an analytical, left brain, and be right handed.
There are plenty of good musicians that are righty, and the same with
lefty.
Ambidextrous might be the best , but there are plenty of exceptions,
and it would really be impossible to judge a musician by handedness.


Your daughter may be simply more dominant on the left,
left handed dominant - Right brain Creative.

Or she may have
left handed dominant - Right Brain Analytical

It seems to me that what is most important, is the fret hand being
controlled by the creative brain.
The hand working the guitar's neck, gets most of the attention and
training.

left hand = creative(right) side of brain

It is the creative side of the brain, that most people use to fret
the guitar. Even a right hand dominant person , frets with the left
hand.

A left hand dominant person, will also use the creative side of the
brain to control the fretting hand.

A lefty may have an advantage ??
Their creative side is also the dominant side.
Hence they should be great art, and NOT great in math or accounting.

A right handed musician has a dominant analytical side.
But still uses the left hand(creative) to play the guitar.

Buy her 2 guitars a left and a right , and see which one she uses.
You can be certain, she will make the correct choice.

Forcing her or labeling her as a lefty, is only referring to the
dominant side.
If her creativity and such may be the same as a right handed person,
then she may prefer to play a right handed guitar.
Even though she is left dominant.

Sorry about the repetitive sentences.
It helps to clarify a somewhat confusing situation.


To a young girl, what is most important is not steel or nylon or left
or right, it is how cool does her guitar look.
So make sure it is good looking
(according to her standards, not parent standard)
Better let "her" pick it out, under "your" guidance.

Pholtron
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"Pholtron" <Today@istheday . com > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 18 May 2008 13:08:23 -0700, "Lumpy"
> <lumpy@digitalcartography . com > wrote:
>
> To a young girl, what is most important is not steel or nylon or left
> or right, it is how cool does her guitar look.
> So make sure it is good looking
> (according to her standards, not parent standard)
> Better let "her" pick it out, under "your" guidance.
>
> Pholtron
> (Go-Bot)
> <--====-->
>

Thanks to everyone for all the advice. I especially liked Pholtron's last
paragraph and that is essentially the approach that I have decided to take.
My daughter has borrowed an old right handed guitar for her first lesson
(tomorrow) and after speaking to her tutor tomorrow I plan on taking my
daughter to a music shop on the weekend to seek further advice and for her
to pick out a suitable guitar.

Thanks again - Gags.