Monster cable aholes at it again

But looks like they may have picked on the wrong small company?

* w w w .audioholics . com /news/industry-news/blue-jeans-strikes-back

Please boycott these greedy fsckers.

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On Apr 15, 10:18 am, bmia...@toddh . net (Todd H.) wrote:
> But looks like they may have picked on the wrong small company?
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> * w w w .audioholics . com /news/industry-news/blue-jeans-strikes-back
>
> Please boycott these greedy fsckers.
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Can't stand that company. Blech!

Pretty funny read though! LOL

Corey

> But looks like they may have picked on the wrong small company?
>
> * w w w .audioholics . com /news/industry-news/blue-jeans-strikes-back
>
> Please boycott these greedy fsckers.

I've been refusing to buy Monster products for a few years, now, so I'm
with you on that -- but the fact that this letter is dated April 1, and
the fact that I can't seem to locate a reputable source for the story in
the news media, makes me a little suspicious if its genuineness.

Brian Running <brunning@XXameritechXX . net > writes:

>> But looks like they may have picked on the wrong small company?
>> * w w w .audioholics . com /news/industry-news/blue-jeans-strikes-back
>> Please boycott these greedy fsckers.
>
> I've been refusing to buy Monster products for a few years, now, so
> I'm with you on that -- but the fact that this letter is dated April
> 1, and the fact that I can't seem to locate a reputable source for the
> story in the news media, makes me a little suspicious if its
> genuineness.

Yeah, funny that it arrived on 4/1. Apparently dated 3/28 though.

* w w w .bluejeanscable . com /legal/mcp/index.htm



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On Apr 15, 12:32 pm, Brian Running <brunn...@XXameritechXX . net > wrote:

> I've been refusing to buy Monster products for a few years, now, so I'm
> with you on that -- but the fact that this letter is dated April 1, and
> the fact that I can't seem to locate a reputable source for the story in
> the news media, makes me a little suspicious if its genuineness.

Say wait! I thought if something was on the INTERNET it had to be
true?

I am also a bit suspicious myself. The April 1st date and the lack of
other sources (except for other audio sites that seem to just be
repeating the original story) make me suspicious as well. Clearly
Blue Jeans cables is a real company (with pretty nice cables at a
decent price I might add!) and maybe even the CEO is a lawyer. And
also the purported "response letter" is a total hoot made even more so
by the fact that Monster cables are so obviously over-priced. But as
to the authenticity of the infringement notice, who can say?

Surely it's a reason for a good yuk at Monster's expense, but calling
for a boycott is a bit far. Hey, as far as I can see Monster makes
GREAT cables! They use great wire, they are solidly in the connectors
(unlike most cheapies) and perform about as well as a cable can. If
you are like me and find their price schedule more than just a bit
hyper-inflated, so then buy something else. I do.

As the Monster reply shows they have been given a reputation for legal
attacks that apparently they haven't made and given the comparison
with the guys at Rickenbacker or the Stick who won't even tolerate a
replacement logo on an authentic instrument you can PROVE is authentic
and you own, makes these Monster gags, rather mild in comparison.

Settling a dispute over trademarks in court is one thing, but where I
get rankled is when a large company doesn't go to court but just uses
pure economic clout to smash the little guy. A perfect example was the
frivolous claim by DW drums that they owned the rights to ALL "round"
drum lugs. It was a lie clearly exposed by an examination of their
trademark papers which clearly showed they claimed a stepped round
drum lug with two diameters! The company making cylindrical drum
lugs was then forced to stop making them by sheer economic pressure.
That's what I find nasty.

> Hey, as far as I can see Monster makes
> GREAT cables! They use great wire, they are solidly in the connectors
> (unlike most cheapies) and perform about as well as a cable can.

I've never had to re-solder the connectors in any brand other than
Monster Cable. I'm not favorably impressed with their quality,
especially for the absurd prices they charge.

On Apr 15, 4:20 pm, Brian Running <brunn...@XXameritechXX . net > wrote:
> > Hey, as far as I can see Monster makes
> > GREAT cables!  They use great wire, they are solidly in the connectors=

> > (unlike most cheapies) and perform about as well as a cable can.
>
> I've never had to re-solder the connectors in any brand other than
> Monster Cable.  I'm not favorably impressed with their quality,
> especially for the absurd prices they charge.

The only connector I've had fall to pieces in my hand? Monster's
"Improved Design" 1/4" jack.

Monster is the Bose of the cable world. All smoke and mirrors, no real
value.

Corey

On Apr 15, 5:20 pm, Brian Running <brunn...@XXameritechXX . net > wrote:

> > Hey, as far as I can see Monster makes
> > GREAT cables! They use great wire, they are solidly in the connectors
> > (unlike most cheapies) and perform about as well as a cable can.

> I've never had to re-solder the connectors in any brand other than
> Monster Cable. I'm not favorably impressed with their quality,
> especially for the absurd prices they charge.

I do have to admit that because of thier prices I've actually never
USED a monster cable! (you mean you actually paid for one???)

However, just looking them over in the store they sure LOOKED pretty
nice to me. Not for the money, though.

Benj wrote:

> Surely it's a reason for a good yuk at Monster's expense, but calling
> for a boycott is a bit far. Hey, as far as I can see Monster makes
> GREAT cables! They use great wire, they are solidly in the connectors
> (unlike most cheapies) and perform about as well as a cable can. If
> you are like me and find their price schedule more than just a bit
> hyper-inflated, so then buy something else. I do.

I can't think of anyone I know in the business who doesn't avoid MC, and
that includes live sound roadies, amp techs, AV installers and a studio
owner. Their view seems to be that MC isn't just overpriced but is poorly
made and prone to failure, it's marketed to nonprofessional consumers for a
reason. When guys whose job depends on the band hitting the opening number
on time every night say they won't touch a particular brand, that tells me
what I need to know.

> I can't think of anyone I know in the business who doesn't avoid MC, and
> that includes live sound roadies, amp techs, AV installers and a studio
> owner.

I don't know about that, DG. Every month I read about studios in Mix
magazine, and these are the big studios, the top places in New York, LA
and Nashville. Very frequently, they are wired with Monster Cable. And
whenever I read that, it always makes me shake my head and wonder -- is
the reason because they have a top-quality product, or is the reason
because they give the stuff away for free to the top studios in order to
get the kind of publicity that articles in Mix, and other publications,
provide? That would not surprise me in the least -- their initial push
in the music industry was accompanied by spiff programs that drove
music-store salespeople into a frenzy.

It's worth noting, too, that those same salespeople complained bitterly
later when the promised spiffs didn't materialize.

Brian Running wrote:

>> I can't think of anyone I know in the business who doesn't avoid MC,
>> and that includes live sound roadies, amp techs, AV installers and
>> a studio owner.
>
> I don't know about that, DG. Every month I read about studios in Mix
> magazine, and these are the big studios, the top places in New York,
> LA and Nashville. Very frequently, they are wired with Monster
> Cable. And whenever I read that, it always makes me shake my head
> and wonder -- is the reason because they have a top-quality product,
> or is the reason because they give the stuff away for free to the top
> studios in order to get the kind of publicity that articles in Mix,
> and other publications, provide? That would not surprise me in the
> least -- their initial push in the music industry was accompanied by
> spiff programs that drove music-store salespeople into a frenzy.

I think you nailed it, the very fact that the presence of their products at
these facilities makes it into print points to it being a promotional tool
just like a can of Coke in a shot in a movie. But in the case of people who
have to cough up their own money for gear they need to rely on, would we
expect to see this same brand name very often?

Todd H. wrote:

> But looks like they may have picked on the wrong small company?
>
> * w w w .audioholics . com /news/industry-news/blue-jeans-strikes-back
>
> Please boycott these greedy fsckers.

Wouldn't give them a dime of my money for any reason, they've been on my
do-not-buy list for some time. I'd love to see them be arrogant enough to
file against this guy and end up losing in a way that undercuts their whole
profit-via-fear business model.

"Todd H." <bmiawmb@toddh . net > wrote in message
news:84k5iztacy@news.giganews . com ...
>
> But looks like they may have picked on the wrong small company?
>
> * w w w .audioholics . com /news/industry-news/blue-jeans-strikes-back
>
> Please boycott these greedy fsckers.



Nice letter. He gave Monster enough homework to keep them busy for years.

Todd H. wrote:
> But looks like they may have picked on the wrong small company?
>
> * w w w .audioholics . com /news/industry-news/blue-jeans-strikes-back
>
> Please boycott these greedy fsckers.
>

There was a story going around a few years ago that Monster Cable was
going after ANY company that used the word Monster in their name or
product - including Monster . com and the Monsters, Inc movie. But the
story was bogus. In fact, Monster Cable wrote a letter (which was
posted on their website, IIRC) making it clear that they were NOT
involved in any litigation or threatened litigation of that nature.

BTW, I have no business relationship with Monster Cable, and generally
stay away from their products, which I find ridiculously overpriced.

--Steve

Steve wrote:

> There was a story going around a few years ago that Monster Cable was
> going after ANY company that used the word Monster in their name or
> product - including Monster . com and the Monsters, Inc movie. But the
> story was bogus. In fact, Monster Cable wrote a letter (which was
> posted on their website, IIRC) making it clear that they were NOT
> involved in any litigation or threatened litigation of that nature.
>
> BTW, I have no business relationship with Monster Cable, and generally
> stay away from their products, which I find ridiculously overpriced.
>
> --Steve

Really, so how are we to interpret this list of trademark claims and
lawsuits etc. Monster Cable Products, Inc. has filed? Why else would they
be suing Monster Mini Golf if not over the name?

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