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Guitar Center Strikes Again
Guitar Center Strikes Again
Well, not that this is a new phenomena, but Guitar Center has decided
that my blood pressure is just too low and has set out once again to
raise it to steam boiler levels.
My gigging rig is heavy, heavy, hernia-inducing heavy, so after
reading about MarkBass for about the tenth time today, I figured God
was sending me a sign and that I must go to GC and buy one. Of course
all the salespeople are playing instruments and the 1 X 15 that I
really want is out of stock, but I had already made up my mind that if
I couldn't get the 1 X 15, then the 1 X 12 will be mine.
After waiting about ten minutes, a bewildered youth approaches me.
Turns out he is a salesman. "Is there one in a box?", I ask, pointing
to the 1 X 12, already knowing the answer is no. "Just a minute, let
me see." Ten minutes pass. "No." Arggh.
"Well, can you take off a few dollars since this one has been sitting
here for a month or two?", I ask, knowing my optimism will soon be
dashed to the ground by the 13 year old waiting on me. "I'm new
here," he says (what a surprise) "Let me ask my manager." Wait ten
minutes. "No."
"Can I see the manager?", says I, in my most restrained, biting my lip
until it bleeds, voice. "Yes, he's in there.", pointing to an office
with a 17 year old senior manager. I gird my loins for battle and
enter the 17 year-old's sanctuary. Amazingly, he is respectful (Well,
hell, I probably remind him of his grandfather.) and convinces me that
the unboxed unit will come with all manuals and warranty paperwork -
even a MarkBass sticker! Oh, boundless joy! I agree to wait, while
the 13 year old retrieves said paperwork.
After 20 minutes, during which I watch 3 other salespeople interrupt
MY PARTICULAR IDIOT, I am informed that they can not find this
mythical paperwork. I leave the store, sans amp, defeated and humbled
once again by the unmet promise of Guitar Center. Aye, she is a cruel
mistress.
Jeff
Well, not that this is a new phenomena, but Guitar Center has decided
that my blood pressure is just too low and has set out once again to
raise it to steam boiler levels.
My gigging rig is heavy, heavy, hernia-inducing heavy, so after
reading about MarkBass for about the tenth time today, I figured God
was sending me a sign and that I must go to GC and buy one. Of course
all the salespeople are playing instruments and the 1 X 15 that I
really want is out of stock, but I had already made up my mind that if
I couldn't get the 1 X 15, then the 1 X 12 will be mine.
After waiting about ten minutes, a bewildered youth approaches me.
Turns out he is a salesman. "Is there one in a box?", I ask, pointing
to the 1 X 12, already knowing the answer is no. "Just a minute, let
me see." Ten minutes pass. "No." Arggh.
"Well, can you take off a few dollars since this one has been sitting
here for a month or two?", I ask, knowing my optimism will soon be
dashed to the ground by the 13 year old waiting on me. "I'm new
here," he says (what a surprise) "Let me ask my manager." Wait ten
minutes. "No."
"Can I see the manager?", says I, in my most restrained, biting my lip
until it bleeds, voice. "Yes, he's in there.", pointing to an office
with a 17 year old senior manager. I gird my loins for battle and
enter the 17 year-old's sanctuary. Amazingly, he is respectful (Well,
hell, I probably remind him of his grandfather.) and convinces me that
the unboxed unit will come with all manuals and warranty paperwork -
even a MarkBass sticker! Oh, boundless joy! I agree to wait, while
the 13 year old retrieves said paperwork.
After 20 minutes, during which I watch 3 other salespeople interrupt
MY PARTICULAR IDIOT, I am informed that they can not find this
mythical paperwork. I leave the store, sans amp, defeated and humbled
once again by the unmet promise of Guitar Center. Aye, she is a cruel
mistress.
Jeff
Re: Guitar Center Strikes Again
"Jeff Witkop" <jwitkop@frontiernet . net > wrote in message
news:rgSQj.2166$NU2.1202@news01.roc.ny...
> Well, not that this is a new phenomena, but Guitar Center has decided that
> my blood pressure is just too low and has set out once again to raise it
> to steam boiler levels.
>
> My gigging rig is heavy, heavy, hernia-inducing heavy, so after reading
> about MarkBass for about the tenth time today, I figured God was sending
> me a sign and that I must go to GC and buy one. Of course all the
> salespeople are playing instruments and the 1 X 15 that I really want is
> out of stock, but I had already made up my mind that if I couldn't get the
> 1 X 15, then the 1 X 12 will be mine.
>
> After waiting about ten minutes, a bewildered youth approaches me. Turns
> out he is a salesman. "Is there one in a box?", I ask, pointing to the 1
> X 12, already knowing the answer is no. "Just a minute, let me see." Ten
> minutes pass. "No." Arggh.
>
> "Well, can you take off a few dollars since this one has been sitting here
> for a month or two?", I ask, knowing my optimism will soon be dashed to
> the ground by the 13 year old waiting on me. "I'm new here," he says
> (what a surprise) "Let me ask my manager." Wait ten minutes. "No."
>
> "Can I see the manager?", says I, in my most restrained, biting my lip
> until it bleeds, voice. "Yes, he's in there.", pointing to an office with
> a 17 year old senior manager. I gird my loins for battle and enter the 17
> year-old's sanctuary. Amazingly, he is respectful (Well, hell, I probably
> remind him of his grandfather.) and convinces me that the unboxed unit
> will come with all manuals and warranty paperwork - even a MarkBass
> sticker! Oh, boundless joy! I agree to wait, while the 13 year old
> retrieves said paperwork.
>
> After 20 minutes, during which I watch 3 other salespeople interrupt MY
> PARTICULAR IDIOT, I am informed that they can not find this mythical
> paperwork. I leave the store, sans amp, defeated and humbled once again
> by the unmet promise of Guitar Center. Aye, she is a cruel mistress.
>
> Jeff
You should have returned with a baseball bat and given a few lessons in
etiquette.
-DA
"Jeff Witkop" <jwitkop@frontiernet . net > wrote in message
news:rgSQj.2166$NU2.1202@news01.roc.ny...
> Well, not that this is a new phenomena, but Guitar Center has decided that
> my blood pressure is just too low and has set out once again to raise it
> to steam boiler levels.
>
> My gigging rig is heavy, heavy, hernia-inducing heavy, so after reading
> about MarkBass for about the tenth time today, I figured God was sending
> me a sign and that I must go to GC and buy one. Of course all the
> salespeople are playing instruments and the 1 X 15 that I really want is
> out of stock, but I had already made up my mind that if I couldn't get the
> 1 X 15, then the 1 X 12 will be mine.
>
> After waiting about ten minutes, a bewildered youth approaches me. Turns
> out he is a salesman. "Is there one in a box?", I ask, pointing to the 1
> X 12, already knowing the answer is no. "Just a minute, let me see." Ten
> minutes pass. "No." Arggh.
>
> "Well, can you take off a few dollars since this one has been sitting here
> for a month or two?", I ask, knowing my optimism will soon be dashed to
> the ground by the 13 year old waiting on me. "I'm new here," he says
> (what a surprise) "Let me ask my manager." Wait ten minutes. "No."
>
> "Can I see the manager?", says I, in my most restrained, biting my lip
> until it bleeds, voice. "Yes, he's in there.", pointing to an office with
> a 17 year old senior manager. I gird my loins for battle and enter the 17
> year-old's sanctuary. Amazingly, he is respectful (Well, hell, I probably
> remind him of his grandfather.) and convinces me that the unboxed unit
> will come with all manuals and warranty paperwork - even a MarkBass
> sticker! Oh, boundless joy! I agree to wait, while the 13 year old
> retrieves said paperwork.
>
> After 20 minutes, during which I watch 3 other salespeople interrupt MY
> PARTICULAR IDIOT, I am informed that they can not find this mythical
> paperwork. I leave the store, sans amp, defeated and humbled once again
> by the unmet promise of Guitar Center. Aye, she is a cruel mistress.
>
> Jeff
You should have returned with a baseball bat and given a few lessons in
etiquette.
-DA
Re: Guitar Center Strikes Again
Too bad you weren't in Hollywood, they had a JB. See my "Un-gassed" thread.
Updated just now.
SotR
Too bad you weren't in Hollywood, they had a JB. See my "Un-gassed" thread.
Updated just now.
SotR
Re: Guitar Center Strikes Again
Consider yourself lucky. Speaking from the other side of the fence: you
don't want "the one in the box" because it's shinny and new and has all the
paperwork.
You want it because 25 teenagers have not slapped "Higher Ground" on it for
hours on end, with the EQs and volume maxed out past clipping, trying to
get it to distort...using a speaker cable as an instrument cable...
I waited for a good while to get a Markbass in the box from My GC. I wanted
the 15, but while I was waiting I found I liked the 12 better - which was
good because it was in stock.
Just a little FYI: I've been told they can't discount on markbass, so get
them to throw in some other crap like strings, or do an "out the door"
without tax.
Also, I heard that only managers can deal on price now, and that they are
severely constrained as to the discounts they can give.
"Jeff Witkop" <jwitkop@frontiernet . net > wrote in message
news:rgSQj.2166$NU2.1202@news01.roc.ny...
> Well, not that this is a new phenomena, but Guitar Center has decided
> that my blood pressure is just too low and has set out once again to
> raise it to steam boiler levels.
>
> My gigging rig is heavy, heavy, hernia-inducing heavy, so after
> reading about MarkBass for about the tenth time today, I figured God
> was sending me a sign and that I must go to GC and buy one. Of course
> all the salespeople are playing instruments and the 1 X 15 that I
> really want is out of stock, but I had already made up my mind that if
> I couldn't get the 1 X 15, then the 1 X 12 will be mine.
>
> After waiting about ten minutes, a bewildered youth approaches me.
> Turns out he is a salesman. "Is there one in a box?", I ask, pointing
> to the 1 X 12, already knowing the answer is no. "Just a minute, let
> me see." Ten minutes pass. "No." Arggh.
>
> "Well, can you take off a few dollars since this one has been sitting
> here for a month or two?", I ask, knowing my optimism will soon be
> dashed to the ground by the 13 year old waiting on me. "I'm new
> here," he says (what a surprise) "Let me ask my manager." Wait ten
> minutes. "No."
>
> "Can I see the manager?", says I, in my most restrained, biting my lip
> until it bleeds, voice. "Yes, he's in there.", pointing to an office
> with a 17 year old senior manager. I gird my loins for battle and
> enter the 17 year-old's sanctuary. Amazingly, he is respectful (Well,
> hell, I probably remind him of his grandfather.) and convinces me that
> the unboxed unit will come with all manuals and warranty paperwork -
> even a MarkBass sticker! Oh, boundless joy! I agree to wait, while
> the 13 year old retrieves said paperwork.
>
> After 20 minutes, during which I watch 3 other salespeople interrupt
> MY PARTICULAR IDIOT, I am informed that they can not find this
> mythical paperwork. I leave the store, sans amp, defeated and humbled
> once again by the unmet promise of Guitar Center. Aye, she is a cruel
> mistress.
>
> Jeff
Consider yourself lucky. Speaking from the other side of the fence: you
don't want "the one in the box" because it's shinny and new and has all the
paperwork.
You want it because 25 teenagers have not slapped "Higher Ground" on it for
hours on end, with the EQs and volume maxed out past clipping, trying to
get it to distort...using a speaker cable as an instrument cable...
I waited for a good while to get a Markbass in the box from My GC. I wanted
the 15, but while I was waiting I found I liked the 12 better - which was
good because it was in stock.
Just a little FYI: I've been told they can't discount on markbass, so get
them to throw in some other crap like strings, or do an "out the door"
without tax.
Also, I heard that only managers can deal on price now, and that they are
severely constrained as to the discounts they can give.
"Jeff Witkop" <jwitkop@frontiernet . net > wrote in message
news:rgSQj.2166$NU2.1202@news01.roc.ny...
> Well, not that this is a new phenomena, but Guitar Center has decided
> that my blood pressure is just too low and has set out once again to
> raise it to steam boiler levels.
>
> My gigging rig is heavy, heavy, hernia-inducing heavy, so after
> reading about MarkBass for about the tenth time today, I figured God
> was sending me a sign and that I must go to GC and buy one. Of course
> all the salespeople are playing instruments and the 1 X 15 that I
> really want is out of stock, but I had already made up my mind that if
> I couldn't get the 1 X 15, then the 1 X 12 will be mine.
>
> After waiting about ten minutes, a bewildered youth approaches me.
> Turns out he is a salesman. "Is there one in a box?", I ask, pointing
> to the 1 X 12, already knowing the answer is no. "Just a minute, let
> me see." Ten minutes pass. "No." Arggh.
>
> "Well, can you take off a few dollars since this one has been sitting
> here for a month or two?", I ask, knowing my optimism will soon be
> dashed to the ground by the 13 year old waiting on me. "I'm new
> here," he says (what a surprise) "Let me ask my manager." Wait ten
> minutes. "No."
>
> "Can I see the manager?", says I, in my most restrained, biting my lip
> until it bleeds, voice. "Yes, he's in there.", pointing to an office
> with a 17 year old senior manager. I gird my loins for battle and
> enter the 17 year-old's sanctuary. Amazingly, he is respectful (Well,
> hell, I probably remind him of his grandfather.) and convinces me that
> the unboxed unit will come with all manuals and warranty paperwork -
> even a MarkBass sticker! Oh, boundless joy! I agree to wait, while
> the 13 year old retrieves said paperwork.
>
> After 20 minutes, during which I watch 3 other salespeople interrupt
> MY PARTICULAR IDIOT, I am informed that they can not find this
> mythical paperwork. I leave the store, sans amp, defeated and humbled
> once again by the unmet promise of Guitar Center. Aye, she is a cruel
> mistress.
>
> Jeff
Re: Guitar Center Strikes Again
js wrote:
<snip>
>
> Also, I heard that only managers can deal on price now, and that they are
> severely constrained as to the discounts they can give.
>
>
>
GC has apparently been bought. I am unsure as to what will replace it in
the
marketplace.
I've been through a few acquisitions. They simply don't work. In order
to entice the buyers, the sellers pump up the book on the item for sale,
and it very soon becomes worth more dead than alive.
Apparently, inside every accountant is a latent instance of Hernando
Cortez. Cortez, Cortez.
Remember kids, conquered peoples should stay conquered.
--
Les Cargill
js wrote:
<snip>
>
> Also, I heard that only managers can deal on price now, and that they are
> severely constrained as to the discounts they can give.
>
>
>
GC has apparently been bought. I am unsure as to what will replace it in
the
marketplace.
I've been through a few acquisitions. They simply don't work. In order
to entice the buyers, the sellers pump up the book on the item for sale,
and it very soon becomes worth more dead than alive.
Apparently, inside every accountant is a latent instance of Hernando
Cortez. Cortez, Cortez.
Remember kids, conquered peoples should stay conquered.
--
Les Cargill
Re: Guitar Center Strikes Again
> conquered peoples should stay conquered.
Huh? What is that supposed to mean?
> conquered peoples should stay conquered.
Huh? What is that supposed to mean?
Re: Guitar Center Strikes Again
On Apr 27, 7:02 pm, "SheaNC" <z...@z . net > wrote:
> > conquered peoples should stay conquered.
>
> Huh? What is that supposed to mean?
* w w w .newadvent.org/cathen/04397a.htm
On Apr 27, 7:02 pm, "SheaNC" <z...@z . net > wrote:
> > conquered peoples should stay conquered.
>
> Huh? What is that supposed to mean?
* w w w .newadvent.org/cathen/04397a.htm
Re: Guitar Center Strikes Again
boy that is scary ..
"ArBeeBee" <russbbass@hotmail . com > wrote in message
news:70d07e30-747a-4597-b63f-ec015ca8b3c2@56g2000hsm.googlegroups . com ...
On Apr 27, 7:02 pm, "SheaNC" <z...@z . net > wrote:
> > conquered peoples should stay conquered.
>
> Huh? What is that supposed to mean?
* w w w .newadvent.org/cathen/04397a.htm
boy that is scary ..
"ArBeeBee" <russbbass@hotmail . com > wrote in message
news:70d07e30-747a-4597-b63f-ec015ca8b3c2@56g2000hsm.googlegroups . com ...
On Apr 27, 7:02 pm, "SheaNC" <z...@z . net > wrote:
> > conquered peoples should stay conquered.
>
> Huh? What is that supposed to mean?
* w w w .newadvent.org/cathen/04397a.htm
Re: Guitar Center Strikes Again
>> conquered peoples should stay conquered.
>
> Huh? What is that supposed to mean?
Well, Shea, if you can't see how Cortez relates to Jeff's negative
experience at Guitar Center, well, I just feel sorry for you. It should
be obvious.
>> conquered peoples should stay conquered.
>
> Huh? What is that supposed to mean?
Well, Shea, if you can't see how Cortez relates to Jeff's negative
experience at Guitar Center, well, I just feel sorry for you. It should
be obvious.
Re: Guitar Center Strikes Again
I think Vasco de Gama would make a better analogue...
"Brian Running" <brunning@XXameritechXX . net > wrote in message
news:%WoRj.11664$V14.174@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc . com ...
> >> conquered peoples should stay conquered.
> >
> > Huh? What is that supposed to mean?
>
> Well, Shea, if you can't see how Cortez relates to Jeff's negative
> experience at Guitar Center, well, I just feel sorry for you. It should
> be obvious.
I think Vasco de Gama would make a better analogue...
"Brian Running" <brunning@XXameritechXX . net > wrote in message
news:%WoRj.11664$V14.174@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc . com ...
> >> conquered peoples should stay conquered.
> >
> > Huh? What is that supposed to mean?
>
> Well, Shea, if you can't see how Cortez relates to Jeff's negative
> experience at Guitar Center, well, I just feel sorry for you. It should
> be obvious.
Re: Guitar Center Strikes Again
Brian Running wrote:
>>> conquered peoples should stay conquered.
>>
>> Huh? What is that supposed to mean?
>
> Well, Shea, if you can't see how Cortez relates to Jeff's negative
> experience at Guitar Center, well, I just feel sorry for you. It should
> be obvious.
He come dancin' across the water, mon.
--
Les Cargill
Brian Running wrote:
>>> conquered peoples should stay conquered.
>>
>> Huh? What is that supposed to mean?
>
> Well, Shea, if you can't see how Cortez relates to Jeff's negative
> experience at Guitar Center, well, I just feel sorry for you. It should
> be obvious.
He come dancin' across the water, mon.
--
Les Cargill
Re: Guitar Center Strikes Again
> He come dancin' across the water, mon.
He plenty bad mon.
> He come dancin' across the water, mon.
He plenty bad mon.
Re: Guitar Center Strikes Again
iarwain wrote:
>> He come dancin' across the water, mon.
>
> He plenty bad mon.
>
>
Best. DVD. Ever.
"When I get really big, I'm gonna get an electric guitar.
When I get real big."
--
Les Cargill
iarwain wrote:
>> He come dancin' across the water, mon.
>
> He plenty bad mon.
>
>
Best. DVD. Ever.
"When I get really big, I'm gonna get an electric guitar.
When I get real big."
--
Les Cargill
Re: Guitar Center Strikes Again
SheaNC wrote:
>> conquered peoples should stay conquered.
>
> Huh? What is that supposed to mean?
Companies are never quite the same after an acquisition.
--
Les Cargill
SheaNC wrote:
>> conquered peoples should stay conquered.
>
> Huh? What is that supposed to mean?
Companies are never quite the same after an acquisition.
--
Les Cargill
Re: Guitar Center Strikes Again
"Jeff Witkop" <jwitkop@frontiernet . net > wrote in message
news:rgSQj.2166$NU2.1202@news01.roc.ny...
> Well, not that this is a new phenomena, but Guitar Center has decided
> that my blood pressure is just too low and has set out once again to
> raise it to steam boiler levels.
>
>---------------------------------8<-----------------------------------
>
> After 20 minutes, during which I watch 3 other salespeople interrupt
> MY PARTICULAR IDIOT, I am informed that they can not find this
> mythical paperwork. I leave the store, sans amp, defeated and humbled
> once again by the unmet promise of Guitar Center. Aye, she is a cruel
> mistress.
>
It still never ceases to amaze me how many retail operations, the sole
objective of which is to separate customers from their money, are so bad at
actually doing so.
And that GC is even worse than the rest of them.
The amount of time I've spent standing there waiting for them to complete
the actual mechanism of taking my money if frightening.
--
--Llarry Amrose
This was the sort of time where people were prone to say
'God only knows'. However, it was generally conceded
that if there was anything God didn't know, this would most likely be it.
"Jeff Witkop" <jwitkop@frontiernet . net > wrote in message
news:rgSQj.2166$NU2.1202@news01.roc.ny...
> Well, not that this is a new phenomena, but Guitar Center has decided
> that my blood pressure is just too low and has set out once again to
> raise it to steam boiler levels.
>
>---------------------------------8<-----------------------------------
>
> After 20 minutes, during which I watch 3 other salespeople interrupt
> MY PARTICULAR IDIOT, I am informed that they can not find this
> mythical paperwork. I leave the store, sans amp, defeated and humbled
> once again by the unmet promise of Guitar Center. Aye, she is a cruel
> mistress.
>
It still never ceases to amaze me how many retail operations, the sole
objective of which is to separate customers from their money, are so bad at
actually doing so.
And that GC is even worse than the rest of them.
The amount of time I've spent standing there waiting for them to complete
the actual mechanism of taking my money if frightening.
--
--Llarry Amrose
This was the sort of time where people were prone to say
'God only knows'. However, it was generally conceded
that if there was anything God didn't know, this would most likely be it.
