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Switching between instruments
It usually takes me 2 or 3 songs to get in the mood and really feel
that I am grooving. Not that the firsts songs of the gig are badly
played, but I just feel better after a couple of songs.
My last gig was to comp some amateur chick singers at their annual
singing class concert. My wife is one of them. I did the
arrangements. I played bass on most of the songs, but I had to play the
guitar on 1, and piano on 2 others (keys where doing the strings). I
liked to play all of that, but I never had really enough time to feel I
was grooving. I just played music like a robot, since my brain never
had time to adjust to the new instrument.
Can you switch instrument easily? Even if it's just from fretless to
fretted, do you need some time to feel your instrument?
--
Frederic Gelinas
It usually takes me 2 or 3 songs to get in the mood and really feel
that I am grooving. Not that the firsts songs of the gig are badly
played, but I just feel better after a couple of songs.
My last gig was to comp some amateur chick singers at their annual
singing class concert. My wife is one of them. I did the
arrangements. I played bass on most of the songs, but I had to play the
guitar on 1, and piano on 2 others (keys where doing the strings). I
liked to play all of that, but I never had really enough time to feel I
was grooving. I just played music like a robot, since my brain never
had time to adjust to the new instrument.
Can you switch instrument easily? Even if it's just from fretless to
fretted, do you need some time to feel your instrument?
--
Frederic Gelinas
Re: Switching between instruments
On May 28, 7:21 am, "Frederic Gelinas"
> Can you switch instrument easily? Even if it's just from fretless to
> fretted, do you need some time to feel your instrument?
I have been playing guitar, bass and keyboard for 40 years.
Even though I can change quickly to another instrument I don't feel
what I'm playing.
If I am playing guitar in a band I don't even touch another
instrument.
Same with bass or keys.
Pt
On May 28, 7:21 am, "Frederic Gelinas"
> Can you switch instrument easily? Even if it's just from fretless to
> fretted, do you need some time to feel your instrument?
I have been playing guitar, bass and keyboard for 40 years.
Even though I can change quickly to another instrument I don't feel
what I'm playing.
If I am playing guitar in a band I don't even touch another
instrument.
Same with bass or keys.
Pt
Re: Switching between instruments
On Wed, 28 May 2008 12:21:01 GMT, "Frederic Gelinas"
<frederic_gelinas@hotmail,com > wrote:
>It usually takes me 2 or 3 songs to get in the mood and really feel
>that I am grooving. Not that the firsts songs of the gig are badly
>played, but I just feel better after a couple of songs.
>
>My last gig was to comp some amateur chick singers at their annual
>singing class concert. My wife is one of them. I did the
>arrangements. I played bass on most of the songs, but I had to play the
>guitar on 1, and piano on 2 others (keys where doing the strings). I
>liked to play all of that, but I never had really enough time to feel I
>was grooving. I just played music like a robot, since my brain never
>had time to adjust to the new instrument.
>
>Can you switch instrument easily? Even if it's just from fretless to
>fretted, do you need some time to feel your instrument?
I play 12-string guitar and 5-string bass (neither very well, but I
get by), and have no real adjustment period in switching. I guess I'm
fortunate.
On Wed, 28 May 2008 12:21:01 GMT, "Frederic Gelinas"
<frederic_gelinas@hotmail,com > wrote:
>It usually takes me 2 or 3 songs to get in the mood and really feel
>that I am grooving. Not that the firsts songs of the gig are badly
>played, but I just feel better after a couple of songs.
>
>My last gig was to comp some amateur chick singers at their annual
>singing class concert. My wife is one of them. I did the
>arrangements. I played bass on most of the songs, but I had to play the
>guitar on 1, and piano on 2 others (keys where doing the strings). I
>liked to play all of that, but I never had really enough time to feel I
>was grooving. I just played music like a robot, since my brain never
>had time to adjust to the new instrument.
>
>Can you switch instrument easily? Even if it's just from fretless to
>fretted, do you need some time to feel your instrument?
I play 12-string guitar and 5-string bass (neither very well, but I
get by), and have no real adjustment period in switching. I guess I'm
fortunate.
Re: Switching between instruments
"Frederic Gelinas" <frederic_gelinas@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:N6c%j.12155$79.8516@read1.cgocable,net ...
> It usually takes me 2 or 3 songs to get in the mood and really feel
> that I am grooving. Not that the firsts songs of the gig are badly
> played, but I just feel better after a couple of songs.
>
> My last gig was to comp some amateur chick singers at their annual
> singing class concert. My wife is one of them. I did the
> arrangements. I played bass on most of the songs, but I had to play
> the
> guitar on 1, and piano on 2 others (keys where doing the strings). I
> liked to play all of that, but I never had really enough time to feel
> I
> was grooving. I just played music like a robot, since my brain never
> had time to adjust to the new instrument.
>
> Can you switch instrument easily? Even if it's just from fretless to
> fretted, do you need some time to feel your instrument?
>
> --
> Frederic Gelinas
One thing I've learned over the years is that how I feel about a
particular performance doesn't have a lot to do with what the audience
thought, e.g., I've done some things I thought were great and my wife
come back and said I seemed "off" the entire time, and I've had the
opposite, too - felt like nothing clicked but everyone said it was
great.
I wouldn't worry too much about not having enough time to "feel I was
grooving." If people liked it, that's what matters unless you're
recording it.
-S-
"Frederic Gelinas" <frederic_gelinas@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:N6c%j.12155$79.8516@read1.cgocable,net ...
> It usually takes me 2 or 3 songs to get in the mood and really feel
> that I am grooving. Not that the firsts songs of the gig are badly
> played, but I just feel better after a couple of songs.
>
> My last gig was to comp some amateur chick singers at their annual
> singing class concert. My wife is one of them. I did the
> arrangements. I played bass on most of the songs, but I had to play
> the
> guitar on 1, and piano on 2 others (keys where doing the strings). I
> liked to play all of that, but I never had really enough time to feel
> I
> was grooving. I just played music like a robot, since my brain never
> had time to adjust to the new instrument.
>
> Can you switch instrument easily? Even if it's just from fretless to
> fretted, do you need some time to feel your instrument?
>
> --
> Frederic Gelinas
One thing I've learned over the years is that how I feel about a
particular performance doesn't have a lot to do with what the audience
thought, e.g., I've done some things I thought were great and my wife
come back and said I seemed "off" the entire time, and I've had the
opposite, too - felt like nothing clicked but everyone said it was
great.
I wouldn't worry too much about not having enough time to "feel I was
grooving." If people liked it, that's what matters unless you're
recording it.
-S-
Re: Switching between instruments
> It usually takes me 2 or 3 songs to get in the mood and really feel that I am grooving.
I think you put it pretty well. I play several instruments and I'd
say this applies to me as well. Part of the problem is the right hand
technique is different: On guitar I will fingerpick with three
fingers and a thumb or use a pick. On bass I play with two fingers,
on ukulele I play with thumb and forefinger, banjo is thumb and two
finger, drumming uses sticks, and piano uses all the fingers in a
different way. It takes me a little while to settle in with each
method. If you go from picking guitar to picking mandolin it's not so
bad, but even there the distance between frets is quite different.
A lot of these merely has to do with not practicing enough. I play
too many instruments to keep my chops sharp on all of them at once. I
like playing ukulele but if I picked one up now it would take me
several days probably to even remember enough songs I play on there to
put together an effective repertoire. I've thought about practicing
switching instruments, that would probably help, but usually if I'm in
a real playing situation I just pick one instrument and stick with
that.
> It usually takes me 2 or 3 songs to get in the mood and really feel that I am grooving.
I think you put it pretty well. I play several instruments and I'd
say this applies to me as well. Part of the problem is the right hand
technique is different: On guitar I will fingerpick with three
fingers and a thumb or use a pick. On bass I play with two fingers,
on ukulele I play with thumb and forefinger, banjo is thumb and two
finger, drumming uses sticks, and piano uses all the fingers in a
different way. It takes me a little while to settle in with each
method. If you go from picking guitar to picking mandolin it's not so
bad, but even there the distance between frets is quite different.
A lot of these merely has to do with not practicing enough. I play
too many instruments to keep my chops sharp on all of them at once. I
like playing ukulele but if I picked one up now it would take me
several days probably to even remember enough songs I play on there to
put together an effective repertoire. I've thought about practicing
switching instruments, that would probably help, but usually if I'm in
a real playing situation I just pick one instrument and stick with
that.
Re: Switching between instruments
On May 28, 12:45 pm, iarwain <iarwai...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> A lot of these merely has to do with not practicing enough. I play
> too many instruments to keep my chops sharp on all of them at once. I
> like playing ukulele but if I picked one up now it would take me
> several days probably to even remember enough songs I play on there to
> put together an effective repertoire. I've thought about practicing
> switching instruments, that would probably help, but usually if I'm in
> a real playing situation I just pick one instrument and stick with
> that.
I agree with this. Practice is a very important factor. If you've been
laying off a certain instrument a while it takes a bit to get "back in
the groove". However, I don't have much of a problem if I'm reasonably
practiced on the instruments in question. But with multiple
instruments there is the problem of spreading so many hours over the
various instruments. That makes each instrument in a sense "short
changed". This is why I tend to go in "phases" where I only
concentrate on a given instrument rather than trying to play several
in a band by switching. However I do at times switch and I find the
key is to keep each one in a kind of separate "compartment" in your
mind. For example the "up front" attitude requried for guitar is quite
different from a more laid back groove oriented mindset needed for
bass or drums. It is essential to swtich mental compartments when
switching instruments or there are problems adjusting.
On May 28, 12:45 pm, iarwain <iarwai...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> A lot of these merely has to do with not practicing enough. I play
> too many instruments to keep my chops sharp on all of them at once. I
> like playing ukulele but if I picked one up now it would take me
> several days probably to even remember enough songs I play on there to
> put together an effective repertoire. I've thought about practicing
> switching instruments, that would probably help, but usually if I'm in
> a real playing situation I just pick one instrument and stick with
> that.
I agree with this. Practice is a very important factor. If you've been
laying off a certain instrument a while it takes a bit to get "back in
the groove". However, I don't have much of a problem if I'm reasonably
practiced on the instruments in question. But with multiple
instruments there is the problem of spreading so many hours over the
various instruments. That makes each instrument in a sense "short
changed". This is why I tend to go in "phases" where I only
concentrate on a given instrument rather than trying to play several
in a band by switching. However I do at times switch and I find the
key is to keep each one in a kind of separate "compartment" in your
mind. For example the "up front" attitude requried for guitar is quite
different from a more laid back groove oriented mindset needed for
bass or drums. It is essential to swtich mental compartments when
switching instruments or there are problems adjusting.
Re: Switching between instruments
>That makes each instrument in a sense "short changed".
It's an interesting problem. On the one hand, I think playing
different instruments can broaden your perspective and make you a
better overall musician. But your playing on a certain instrument
could suffer. I don't think it's a particularly good idea to spread
yourself too thin, but I sort of can't help myself. I'll get curious
about a certain instrument and I'll want to study it. Most recently
I've been playing some harmonica - again this uses a completely
different technique.
With the stringed instruments, and with music in general, there is a
lot of crossover between different instruments. So it can be good to
focus on that, as well as the "compartments" you talk about - it
really does seem like each instrument has its own space in the
brain.
I've done some switching between drums, guitar, and bass, and between
bass and keys, but I can't say I'm real fond of it. Like you said,
I'll get focused on one instrument - I'll get fascinated with, say,
banjo all of a sudden and just play that for a week straight.
>That makes each instrument in a sense "short changed".
It's an interesting problem. On the one hand, I think playing
different instruments can broaden your perspective and make you a
better overall musician. But your playing on a certain instrument
could suffer. I don't think it's a particularly good idea to spread
yourself too thin, but I sort of can't help myself. I'll get curious
about a certain instrument and I'll want to study it. Most recently
I've been playing some harmonica - again this uses a completely
different technique.
With the stringed instruments, and with music in general, there is a
lot of crossover between different instruments. So it can be good to
focus on that, as well as the "compartments" you talk about - it
really does seem like each instrument has its own space in the
brain.
I've done some switching between drums, guitar, and bass, and between
bass and keys, but I can't say I'm real fond of it. Like you said,
I'll get focused on one instrument - I'll get fascinated with, say,
banjo all of a sudden and just play that for a week straight.
Re: Switching between instruments
For me, it's been fairly easy to switch instruments and bring up the feel
immediately on the new one, but that's probably because in my acoustic duo,
I alternate between guitar, bass, and piano on probably every other song, so
I guess I'm just used to it. I also switch intruments frequently while just
practicing around the house, so that probably helps, too. Plus being the
only musician on stage (the other half of the duo is the singer), it's
rather easy to get into my own rhythm without having to keep in step with
other players. In the full bands I've played with over the years, I've
always been on a single instrument, either guitar or bass, so I don't know
how easy it would be to switch under those conditions.
Of course, frequent switching of instruments may also be why I can't play
any of them worth a s..t! :)
David
"Frederic Gelinas" <frederic_gelinas@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:N6c%j.12155$79.8516@read1.cgocable,net ...
> It usually takes me 2 or 3 songs to get in the mood and really feel
> that I am grooving. Not that the firsts songs of the gig are badly
> played, but I just feel better after a couple of songs.
>
> My last gig was to comp some amateur chick singers at their annual
> singing class concert. My wife is one of them. I did the
> arrangements. I played bass on most of the songs, but I had to play the
> guitar on 1, and piano on 2 others (keys where doing the strings). I
> liked to play all of that, but I never had really enough time to feel I
> was grooving. I just played music like a robot, since my brain never
> had time to adjust to the new instrument.
>
> Can you switch instrument easily? Even if it's just from fretless to
> fretted, do you need some time to feel your instrument?
>
> --
> Frederic Gelinas
For me, it's been fairly easy to switch instruments and bring up the feel
immediately on the new one, but that's probably because in my acoustic duo,
I alternate between guitar, bass, and piano on probably every other song, so
I guess I'm just used to it. I also switch intruments frequently while just
practicing around the house, so that probably helps, too. Plus being the
only musician on stage (the other half of the duo is the singer), it's
rather easy to get into my own rhythm without having to keep in step with
other players. In the full bands I've played with over the years, I've
always been on a single instrument, either guitar or bass, so I don't know
how easy it would be to switch under those conditions.
Of course, frequent switching of instruments may also be why I can't play
any of them worth a s..t! :)
David
"Frederic Gelinas" <frederic_gelinas@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:N6c%j.12155$79.8516@read1.cgocable,net ...
> It usually takes me 2 or 3 songs to get in the mood and really feel
> that I am grooving. Not that the firsts songs of the gig are badly
> played, but I just feel better after a couple of songs.
>
> My last gig was to comp some amateur chick singers at their annual
> singing class concert. My wife is one of them. I did the
> arrangements. I played bass on most of the songs, but I had to play the
> guitar on 1, and piano on 2 others (keys where doing the strings). I
> liked to play all of that, but I never had really enough time to feel I
> was grooving. I just played music like a robot, since my brain never
> had time to adjust to the new instrument.
>
> Can you switch instrument easily? Even if it's just from fretless to
> fretted, do you need some time to feel your instrument?
>
> --
> Frederic Gelinas
Re: Switching between instruments
> I guess I'm just used to it. I also switch intruments frequently while just practicing around the house
That makes sense. Another thing is, if you switch instruments a lot,
even just around the house, you're getting a fair amount of practice
time on each instrument. My problem is I'll go through phases where I
won't play a certain instrument for months at a time, so of course
I'll get rusty on it. If I was in a band situation where I switched
instruments I would make sure I was practiced on them.
Right now I'd like a lap steel and a violin. And an autoharp. I
always thought it would be cool to have a hurdy gurdy but they sound
kind of expensive.
> I guess I'm just used to it. I also switch intruments frequently while just practicing around the house
That makes sense. Another thing is, if you switch instruments a lot,
even just around the house, you're getting a fair amount of practice
time on each instrument. My problem is I'll go through phases where I
won't play a certain instrument for months at a time, so of course
I'll get rusty on it. If I was in a band situation where I switched
instruments I would make sure I was practiced on them.
Right now I'd like a lap steel and a violin. And an autoharp. I
always thought it would be cool to have a hurdy gurdy but they sound
kind of expensive.
Re: Switching between instruments
On Thu, 29 May 2008 02:59:24 -0700 (PDT), iarwain
<iarwain_8@hotmail,com > wrote:
>> I guess I'm just used to it. I also switch intruments frequently while just practicing around the house
>
>That makes sense. Another thing is, if you switch instruments a lot,
>even just around the house, you're getting a fair amount of practice
>time on each instrument. My problem is I'll go through phases where I
>won't play a certain instrument for months at a time, so of course
>I'll get rusty on it. If I was in a band situation where I switched
>instruments I would make sure I was practiced on them.
>
>Right now I'd like a lap steel and a violin. And an autoharp. I
>always thought it would be cool to have a hurdy gurdy but they sound
>kind of expensive.
You can get a kit to build it yourself for $550.
http :// www .harpkit,com /Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=hurdy
(No, I don't work for them OR get a 'referral fee'. :-) )
On Thu, 29 May 2008 02:59:24 -0700 (PDT), iarwain
<iarwain_8@hotmail,com > wrote:
>> I guess I'm just used to it. I also switch intruments frequently while just practicing around the house
>
>That makes sense. Another thing is, if you switch instruments a lot,
>even just around the house, you're getting a fair amount of practice
>time on each instrument. My problem is I'll go through phases where I
>won't play a certain instrument for months at a time, so of course
>I'll get rusty on it. If I was in a band situation where I switched
>instruments I would make sure I was practiced on them.
>
>Right now I'd like a lap steel and a violin. And an autoharp. I
>always thought it would be cool to have a hurdy gurdy but they sound
>kind of expensive.
You can get a kit to build it yourself for $550.
http :// www .harpkit,com /Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=hurdy
(No, I don't work for them OR get a 'referral fee'. :-) )
Re: Switching between instruments
> You can get a kit to build it yourself for $550.
Looks really cool, but of course I see the hurdy gurdy has the highest
difficulty rating they give out. It looks like a very interesting
thing to work on, but I have so many things to fill my time now I'm
not too keen on starting a new project. I've got a Pure Western
pickup I still haven't installed in my acoustic. Have you ever built
anything from them?
> You can get a kit to build it yourself for $550.
Looks really cool, but of course I see the hurdy gurdy has the highest
difficulty rating they give out. It looks like a very interesting
thing to work on, but I have so many things to fill my time now I'm
not too keen on starting a new project. I've got a Pure Western
pickup I still haven't installed in my acoustic. Have you ever built
anything from them?
Re: Switching between instruments
On Thu, 29 May 2008 04:37:15 -0700 (PDT), iarwain
<iarwain_8@hotmail,com > wrote:
>> You can get a kit to build it yourself for $550.
>
>Looks really cool, but of course I see the hurdy gurdy has the highest
>difficulty rating they give out. It looks like a very interesting
>thing to work on, but I have so many things to fill my time now I'm
>not too keen on starting a new project. I've got a Pure Western
>pickup I still haven't installed in my acoustic. Have you ever built
>anything from them?
>
Only a dulcimer. Easy kit and came out fairly nice. I'd REALLY like
to have their old bass kit (not the suitcase base that they sell now).
It was a really nice-looking bass that broke down to pieces you could
stash behind the seat of a VW bug. :-)
On Thu, 29 May 2008 04:37:15 -0700 (PDT), iarwain
<iarwain_8@hotmail,com > wrote:
>> You can get a kit to build it yourself for $550.
>
>Looks really cool, but of course I see the hurdy gurdy has the highest
>difficulty rating they give out. It looks like a very interesting
>thing to work on, but I have so many things to fill my time now I'm
>not too keen on starting a new project. I've got a Pure Western
>pickup I still haven't installed in my acoustic. Have you ever built
>anything from them?
>
Only a dulcimer. Easy kit and came out fairly nice. I'd REALLY like
to have their old bass kit (not the suitcase base that they sell now).
It was a really nice-looking bass that broke down to pieces you could
stash behind the seat of a VW bug. :-)
Re: Switching between instruments
> Only a dulcimer. Easy kit and came out fairly nice.
Looks like the dulcimer would be quite a bit easier, plus it doesn't
cost as much. The only problem I have with their hurdy gurdy is I'm
not particularly impressed with the sound of it on the mp3 sample they
have on their page. I mean, it doesn't sound bad, just not as good as
other clips of hurdy gurdies that I've heard. They look like
beautiful instruments though.
> Only a dulcimer. Easy kit and came out fairly nice.
Looks like the dulcimer would be quite a bit easier, plus it doesn't
cost as much. The only problem I have with their hurdy gurdy is I'm
not particularly impressed with the sound of it on the mp3 sample they
have on their page. I mean, it doesn't sound bad, just not as good as
other clips of hurdy gurdies that I've heard. They look like
beautiful instruments though.
Re: Switching between instruments
iarwain wrote:
>> Only a dulcimer. Easy kit and came out fairly nice.
>
> Looks like the dulcimer would be quite a bit easier, plus it doesn't
> cost as much. The only problem I have with their hurdy gurdy is I'm
> not particularly impressed with the sound of it on the mp3 sample they
> have on their page. I mean, it doesn't sound bad, just not as good as
> other clips of hurdy gurdies that I've heard. They look like
> beautiful instruments though.
they are easy to make out of old stuff, and I only had wood shop in high
school.
I once made a dulcimer out of an old door. as long as you get the frets
& fretboard laid right....
but back on topic about switching...dulcimer was the first instrument I
learned to play and it was difficult for me to not want to lay my bass
on its back and mess with it like that. the fun thing though was to play
the dulcimer like a bass!
:)
--
dr g
oxoxoxo
http :// www .youtube,com /user/DavidSinRocks
iarwain wrote:
>> Only a dulcimer. Easy kit and came out fairly nice.
>
> Looks like the dulcimer would be quite a bit easier, plus it doesn't
> cost as much. The only problem I have with their hurdy gurdy is I'm
> not particularly impressed with the sound of it on the mp3 sample they
> have on their page. I mean, it doesn't sound bad, just not as good as
> other clips of hurdy gurdies that I've heard. They look like
> beautiful instruments though.
they are easy to make out of old stuff, and I only had wood shop in high
school.
I once made a dulcimer out of an old door. as long as you get the frets
& fretboard laid right....
but back on topic about switching...dulcimer was the first instrument I
learned to play and it was difficult for me to not want to lay my bass
on its back and mess with it like that. the fun thing though was to play
the dulcimer like a bass!
:)
--
dr g
oxoxoxo
http :// www .youtube,com /user/DavidSinRocks
Re: Switching between instruments
On Sat, 31 May 2008 12:52:06 -0500, brujeria diosa
<senora@glitterworld,net > wrote:
>iarwain wrote:
>>> Only a dulcimer. Easy kit and came out fairly nice.
>>
>> Looks like the dulcimer would be quite a bit easier, plus it doesn't
>> cost as much. The only problem I have with their hurdy gurdy is I'm
>> not particularly impressed with the sound of it on the mp3 sample they
>> have on their page. I mean, it doesn't sound bad, just not as good as
>> other clips of hurdy gurdies that I've heard. They look like
>> beautiful instruments though.
>
>they are easy to make out of old stuff, and I only had wood shop in high
>school.
>I once made a dulcimer out of an old door. as long as you get the frets
>& fretboard laid right....
>
>but back on topic about switching...dulcimer was the first instrument I
>learned to play and it was difficult for me to not want to lay my bass
>on its back and mess with it like that. the fun thing though was to play
>the dulcimer like a bass!
>
>:)
Why DIDN'T you lay the bass on its back? Jeff Healey plays(played?)
his guitar like that! :-D
On Sat, 31 May 2008 12:52:06 -0500, brujeria diosa
<senora@glitterworld,net > wrote:
>iarwain wrote:
>>> Only a dulcimer. Easy kit and came out fairly nice.
>>
>> Looks like the dulcimer would be quite a bit easier, plus it doesn't
>> cost as much. The only problem I have with their hurdy gurdy is I'm
>> not particularly impressed with the sound of it on the mp3 sample they
>> have on their page. I mean, it doesn't sound bad, just not as good as
>> other clips of hurdy gurdies that I've heard. They look like
>> beautiful instruments though.
>
>they are easy to make out of old stuff, and I only had wood shop in high
>school.
>I once made a dulcimer out of an old door. as long as you get the frets
>& fretboard laid right....
>
>but back on topic about switching...dulcimer was the first instrument I
>learned to play and it was difficult for me to not want to lay my bass
>on its back and mess with it like that. the fun thing though was to play
>the dulcimer like a bass!
>
>:)
Why DIDN'T you lay the bass on its back? Jeff Healey plays(played?)
his guitar like that! :-D
