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Re: More American Idol
Brian Running wrote:
> Mariah Carey is responsible for the fad of yodeling, not blaring, so
> she gets the blame for all the Star Spangled Banner "interpreters." I
> would also like to get my hands on whoever is responsible for the
> current fad of sliding up into correct pitches, instead of precisely
> hitting notes. It's another one of those things that can be used as
> an interpretive device, but kids do it on every single note these
> days. I chew my kids out every time I hear them doing it.
It's not unlike the difference between playing guitar and shredding, the
silences between the notes are as important as the notes themselves and
non-stop shredders don't get that. Spice is important, but loading it onto
every dish by the pound just makes everything taste the same.
Brian Running wrote:
> Mariah Carey is responsible for the fad of yodeling, not blaring, so
> she gets the blame for all the Star Spangled Banner "interpreters." I
> would also like to get my hands on whoever is responsible for the
> current fad of sliding up into correct pitches, instead of precisely
> hitting notes. It's another one of those things that can be used as
> an interpretive device, but kids do it on every single note these
> days. I chew my kids out every time I hear them doing it.
It's not unlike the difference between playing guitar and shredding, the
silences between the notes are as important as the notes themselves and
non-stop shredders don't get that. Spice is important, but loading it onto
every dish by the pound just makes everything taste the same.
Re: More American Idol
Lane Baldwin wrote:
> "Brian Running" <brunning@XXameritechXX . net > wrote in message
> news:5DYWj.107$mh5.19@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc . com ...
>> Last night, I had a close encounter with what American Idol is doing to
>> music, at a high-school choir concert. There were several different
>> choirs.
>>
>> One choir did an old spiritual, and the soloist stepped right up to the
>> mike and proceeded to suck the heart and soul right out of it with a
>> typical American-Idol solo, full of the chirpy,
>> slide-into-every-note-so-I-don't-have-to-hit-a-precise-pitch, yodeling and
>> howling that passes as singing these days in the minds of AI's audience.
>> The "Vocal Jazz" group did three pure-pop-dreck tunes with a series of
>> solos that Simon would have torn to pieces, and then finished with a
>> Broadway-show-tune-style rendition of "Mack the Knife." But not a single
>> note of jazz, none at all. It was painful.
>>
>> When they stuck to traditional choral music, where there was no temptation
>> to go pop, they were fantastic. But you give a young singer the
>> opportunity to solo these days, and you're going to hear the same awful
>> caterwauling you can hear any night on American Idol. It's a sad thing.
>>
>
> Yeah...well...Whitney started it!!!
>
> ;-)
>
>
>
>
YES!
--
Les Cargill
Lane Baldwin wrote:
> "Brian Running" <brunning@XXameritechXX . net > wrote in message
> news:5DYWj.107$mh5.19@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc . com ...
>> Last night, I had a close encounter with what American Idol is doing to
>> music, at a high-school choir concert. There were several different
>> choirs.
>>
>> One choir did an old spiritual, and the soloist stepped right up to the
>> mike and proceeded to suck the heart and soul right out of it with a
>> typical American-Idol solo, full of the chirpy,
>> slide-into-every-note-so-I-don't-have-to-hit-a-precise-pitch, yodeling and
>> howling that passes as singing these days in the minds of AI's audience.
>> The "Vocal Jazz" group did three pure-pop-dreck tunes with a series of
>> solos that Simon would have torn to pieces, and then finished with a
>> Broadway-show-tune-style rendition of "Mack the Knife." But not a single
>> note of jazz, none at all. It was painful.
>>
>> When they stuck to traditional choral music, where there was no temptation
>> to go pop, they were fantastic. But you give a young singer the
>> opportunity to solo these days, and you're going to hear the same awful
>> caterwauling you can hear any night on American Idol. It's a sad thing.
>>
>
> Yeah...well...Whitney started it!!!
>
> ;-)
>
>
>
>
YES!
--
Les Cargill
Re: More American Idol
On May 15, 11:26 am, Brian Running <brunn...@XXameritechXX . net > wrote:
> Last night, I had a close encounter with what American Idol is doing to
> music, at a high-school choir concert. There were several different choirs.
>
> One choir did an old spiritual, and the soloist stepped right up to the
> mike and proceeded to suck the heart and soul right out of it with a
> typical American-Idol solo, full of the chirpy,
> slide-into-every-note-so-I-don't-have-to-hit-a-precise-pitch, yodeling
> and howling that passes as singing these days in the minds of AI's
> audience. The "Vocal Jazz" group did three pure-pop-dreck tunes with a
> series of solos that Simon would have torn to pieces, and then finished
> with a Broadway-show-tune-style rendition of "Mack the Knife." But not
> a single note of jazz, none at all. It was painful.
>
> When they stuck to traditional choral music, where there was no
> temptation to go pop, they were fantastic. But you give a young singer
> the opportunity to solo these days, and you're going to hear the same
> awful caterwauling you can hear any night on American Idol. It's a sad
> thing.
before idol there was star search.
i remember 15 years ago bitching at my local jazz station for playing
nothing but yodelers.
so it ain't nothin new - and it search is old.
On May 15, 11:26 am, Brian Running <brunn...@XXameritechXX . net > wrote:
> Last night, I had a close encounter with what American Idol is doing to
> music, at a high-school choir concert. There were several different choirs.
>
> One choir did an old spiritual, and the soloist stepped right up to the
> mike and proceeded to suck the heart and soul right out of it with a
> typical American-Idol solo, full of the chirpy,
> slide-into-every-note-so-I-don't-have-to-hit-a-precise-pitch, yodeling
> and howling that passes as singing these days in the minds of AI's
> audience. The "Vocal Jazz" group did three pure-pop-dreck tunes with a
> series of solos that Simon would have torn to pieces, and then finished
> with a Broadway-show-tune-style rendition of "Mack the Knife." But not
> a single note of jazz, none at all. It was painful.
>
> When they stuck to traditional choral music, where there was no
> temptation to go pop, they were fantastic. But you give a young singer
> the opportunity to solo these days, and you're going to hear the same
> awful caterwauling you can hear any night on American Idol. It's a sad
> thing.
before idol there was star search.
i remember 15 years ago bitching at my local jazz station for playing
nothing but yodelers.
so it ain't nothin new - and it search is old.
Re: More American Idol
Brian Running wrote:
> Last night, I had a close encounter with what American Idol is doing to
> music, at a high-school choir concert. There were several different
> choirs.
>
> One choir did an old spiritual, and the soloist stepped right up to the
> mike and proceeded to suck the heart and soul right out of it with a
> typical American-Idol solo, full of the chirpy,
> slide-into-every-note-so-I-don't-have-to-hit-a-precise-pitch, yodeling
> and howling that passes as singing these days in the minds of AI's
> audience. The "Vocal Jazz" group did three pure-pop-dreck tunes with a
> series of solos that Simon would have torn to pieces, and then finished
> with a Broadway-show-tune-style rendition of "Mack the Knife." But not
> a single note of jazz, none at all. It was painful.
>
> When they stuck to traditional choral music, where there was no
> temptation to go pop, they were fantastic. But you give a young singer
> the opportunity to solo these days, and you're going to hear the same
> awful caterwauling you can hear any night on American Idol. It's a sad
> thing.
Did the audience like it?
--
Write a wise saying and your name will live forever.
- Anonymous
Brian Running wrote:
> Last night, I had a close encounter with what American Idol is doing to
> music, at a high-school choir concert. There were several different
> choirs.
>
> One choir did an old spiritual, and the soloist stepped right up to the
> mike and proceeded to suck the heart and soul right out of it with a
> typical American-Idol solo, full of the chirpy,
> slide-into-every-note-so-I-don't-have-to-hit-a-precise-pitch, yodeling
> and howling that passes as singing these days in the minds of AI's
> audience. The "Vocal Jazz" group did three pure-pop-dreck tunes with a
> series of solos that Simon would have torn to pieces, and then finished
> with a Broadway-show-tune-style rendition of "Mack the Knife." But not
> a single note of jazz, none at all. It was painful.
>
> When they stuck to traditional choral music, where there was no
> temptation to go pop, they were fantastic. But you give a young singer
> the opportunity to solo these days, and you're going to hear the same
> awful caterwauling you can hear any night on American Idol. It's a sad
> thing.
Did the audience like it?
--
Write a wise saying and your name will live forever.
- Anonymous
Re: More American Idol
> Did the audience like it?
Of course! I've got to believe that I was not the only one in the
audience shaking his head about it, though.
> Did the audience like it?
Of course! I've got to believe that I was not the only one in the
audience shaking his head about it, though.
Re: More American Idol
Brian Running wrote:
>> Did the audience like it?
>
> Of course! I've got to believe that I was not the only one in the
> audience shaking his head about it, though.
It's not an "of course" to me because I've been to school productions
where the audience while not *rude* was obviously not that enthusiastic.
While I certainly share your tastes, I don't see why it bothers you so
much. Lots of people like it. Lots of people think you and I are nuts
for knowing all the words to "Yummy Yummy Yummy" - so what?
Music, especially pop, is just supposed to be fun. My "super special
music snob sense" is starting to tingle.
--
Write a wise saying and your name will live forever.
- Anonymous
Brian Running wrote:
>> Did the audience like it?
>
> Of course! I've got to believe that I was not the only one in the
> audience shaking his head about it, though.
It's not an "of course" to me because I've been to school productions
where the audience while not *rude* was obviously not that enthusiastic.
While I certainly share your tastes, I don't see why it bothers you so
much. Lots of people like it. Lots of people think you and I are nuts
for knowing all the words to "Yummy Yummy Yummy" - so what?
Music, especially pop, is just supposed to be fun. My "super special
music snob sense" is starting to tingle.
--
Write a wise saying and your name will live forever.
- Anonymous
Re: More American Idol
Well if we're gonna go that route, why not just skip all the tears and the
horrible renditions of Celine Dion songs and go straight to "Ow! My Balls!"
* w w w .youtube . com /watch?v=1hj_7U40z5I&feature=related
I mean, we already have a "game show" that consists of nothing more than
picking random numbered suitcases. Might as well just cut out all the
thinking. And the numbers, because counting is hard...
"Jim Carr" <newsgroups@azwebpages . com > wrote in message
news:Nv7Xj.33142$3i3.29381@newsfe14.phx...
> Brian Running wrote:
> >> Did the audience like it?
> >
> > Of course! I've got to believe that I was not the only one in the
> > audience shaking his head about it, though.
>
> It's not an "of course" to me because I've been to school productions
> where the audience while not *rude* was obviously not that enthusiastic.
>
> While I certainly share your tastes, I don't see why it bothers you so
> much. Lots of people like it. Lots of people think you and I are nuts
> for knowing all the words to "Yummy Yummy Yummy" - so what?
>
> Music, especially pop, is just supposed to be fun. My "super special
> music snob sense" is starting to tingle.
>
>
> --
> Write a wise saying and your name will live forever.
> - Anonymous
Well if we're gonna go that route, why not just skip all the tears and the
horrible renditions of Celine Dion songs and go straight to "Ow! My Balls!"
* w w w .youtube . com /watch?v=1hj_7U40z5I&feature=related
I mean, we already have a "game show" that consists of nothing more than
picking random numbered suitcases. Might as well just cut out all the
thinking. And the numbers, because counting is hard...
"Jim Carr" <newsgroups@azwebpages . com > wrote in message
news:Nv7Xj.33142$3i3.29381@newsfe14.phx...
> Brian Running wrote:
> >> Did the audience like it?
> >
> > Of course! I've got to believe that I was not the only one in the
> > audience shaking his head about it, though.
>
> It's not an "of course" to me because I've been to school productions
> where the audience while not *rude* was obviously not that enthusiastic.
>
> While I certainly share your tastes, I don't see why it bothers you so
> much. Lots of people like it. Lots of people think you and I are nuts
> for knowing all the words to "Yummy Yummy Yummy" - so what?
>
> Music, especially pop, is just supposed to be fun. My "super special
> music snob sense" is starting to tingle.
>
>
> --
> Write a wise saying and your name will live forever.
> - Anonymous
Re: More American Idol
js wrote:
> Well if we're gonna go that route, why not just skip all the tears and the
> horrible renditions of Celine Dion songs and go straight to "Ow! My Balls!"
>
> * w w w .youtube . com /watch?v=1hj 7U40z5I&feature=related
>
> I mean, we already have a "game show" that consists of nothing more than
> picking random numbered suitcases. Might as well just cut out all the
> thinking. And the numbers, because counting is hard...
I don't disagree with your assessment of the music. I just don't get why
it bothers you so much. I don't like it, so I don't listen to it. It
doesn't bother me that others like it.
js wrote:
> Well if we're gonna go that route, why not just skip all the tears and the
> horrible renditions of Celine Dion songs and go straight to "Ow! My Balls!"
>
> * w w w .youtube . com /watch?v=1hj 7U40z5I&feature=related
>
> I mean, we already have a "game show" that consists of nothing more than
> picking random numbered suitcases. Might as well just cut out all the
> thinking. And the numbers, because counting is hard...
I don't disagree with your assessment of the music. I just don't get why
it bothers you so much. I don't like it, so I don't listen to it. It
doesn't bother me that others like it.
Re: More American Idol
On May 16, 2:28 am, "js" <nothing AT nothing DOT com> wrote:
> Well if we're gonna go that route, why not just skip all the tears and the=
> horrible renditions of Celine Dion songs and go straight to "Ow! My Balls!=
"
>
> * w w w .youtube . com /watch?v=1hj 7U40z5I&feature=related
>
> I mean, we already have a "game show" that consists of nothing more tha=
n
> picking random numbered suitcases. Might as well just cut out all the
> thinking. And the numbers, because counting is hard...
>
> "Jim Carr" <newsgro...@azwebpages . com > wrote in message
>
> news:Nv7Xj.33142$3i3.29381@newsfe14.phx...
>
>
>
> > Brian Running wrote:
> > >> Did the audience like it?
>
> > > Of course! I've got to believe that I was not the only one in the
> > > audience shaking his head about it, though.
>
> > It's not an "of course" to me because I've been to school productions
> > where the audience while not *rude* was obviously not that enthusiastic.=
>
> > While I certainly share your tastes, I don't see why it bothers you so
> > much. Lots of people like it. Lots of people think you and I are nuts
> > for knowing all the words to "Yummy Yummy Yummy" - so what?
>
> > Music, especially pop, is just supposed to be fun. My "super special
> > music snob sense" is starting to tingle.
>
> > --
> > Write a wise saying and your name will live forever.
> > - Anonymous- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
THAT's NUMBERWANG!
On May 16, 2:28 am, "js" <nothing AT nothing DOT com> wrote:
> Well if we're gonna go that route, why not just skip all the tears and the=
> horrible renditions of Celine Dion songs and go straight to "Ow! My Balls!=
"
>
> * w w w .youtube . com /watch?v=1hj 7U40z5I&feature=related
>
> I mean, we already have a "game show" that consists of nothing more tha=
n
> picking random numbered suitcases. Might as well just cut out all the
> thinking. And the numbers, because counting is hard...
>
> "Jim Carr" <newsgro...@azwebpages . com > wrote in message
>
> news:Nv7Xj.33142$3i3.29381@newsfe14.phx...
>
>
>
> > Brian Running wrote:
> > >> Did the audience like it?
>
> > > Of course! I've got to believe that I was not the only one in the
> > > audience shaking his head about it, though.
>
> > It's not an "of course" to me because I've been to school productions
> > where the audience while not *rude* was obviously not that enthusiastic.=
>
> > While I certainly share your tastes, I don't see why it bothers you so
> > much. Lots of people like it. Lots of people think you and I are nuts
> > for knowing all the words to "Yummy Yummy Yummy" - so what?
>
> > Music, especially pop, is just supposed to be fun. My "super special
> > music snob sense" is starting to tingle.
>
> > --
> > Write a wise saying and your name will live forever.
> > - Anonymous- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
THAT's NUMBERWANG!
Re: More American Idol
> Music, especially pop, is just supposed to be fun. My "super special music snob sense" is starting to tingle.
No, it isn't. You just want to argue. You have no "super special music
snob sense." Your only frame of reference is old rock and roll covers
played in bars -- just because some musicians aim a little higher than
the least common denominator doesn't make them snobs.
But, for anyone else that might care -- a school is not an entertainment
venue. School music programs are there to teach music, not entertain.
I don't pay thousands of dollars of taxes each year to support public
schools so they can provide a forum for kids to do what they see and
hear on TV and radio. They are there to provide education, and to
create a disciplined atmosphere in which that education can take place.
A music teacher has a duty to teach music. If a choir is presenting
spirituals, then there's an obligation to teach the kids how to sing
spirituals, to put them in context, to understand their origins and the
purpose they served to the people that created them. There's an
obligation to present them authentically, and if they don't, then that
tells me that there's not a proper education about spirituals going on.
If you call your group a "vocal jazz choir," then you'd better present
some jazz. As a music teacher, you'd better be able to educate your
students about jazz, and if you can't show, at a concert which parents
are attending, that your students can do jazz, then the only conclusion
is that jazz is not being taught.
The band program in this school is similar. They're fixated on marching
band. When they put on a jazz, classical or pops concert, it all sounds
like marching band. Fer chrissakes, they can't even do a concert march
without it sounding like they're all out on a football field, huffing
and puffing, blaring and blatting out the song like they're playing to
an audience that's 100 yards away. They're more concerned with
formations than music theory. My two oldest kids are sophomore and
senior in high school, have been in the band and choir programs
throughout their school years, but they've never been taught key
signatures, for instance.
I have a theory about high school choir teachers. It seems that the
vast majority of them, at least around here, come out of religious
colleges, such as St. Olaf or Luther. Those schools have excellent
choirs, no doubt, but they have an emphasis on religious music, of
course. After their students graduate with their music-education
degrees, they hit the public schools, and they can't do exclusively
religious music any more. They don't know what to do, they seem to have
no background in secular music in general, and jazz in particular. This
leads to public-school concert programs with a large percentage of
religious songs, and the remainder defaults to pop. I'd speculate
further and guess that the current state of pop Christian music
influences the situation, too -- and pop Christian music is the single
worst genre of music existent on Earth right now. Even worse than
modern country. Every horrible musical cliche and fad applied to
excess. Ack.
> Music, especially pop, is just supposed to be fun. My "super special music snob sense" is starting to tingle.
No, it isn't. You just want to argue. You have no "super special music
snob sense." Your only frame of reference is old rock and roll covers
played in bars -- just because some musicians aim a little higher than
the least common denominator doesn't make them snobs.
But, for anyone else that might care -- a school is not an entertainment
venue. School music programs are there to teach music, not entertain.
I don't pay thousands of dollars of taxes each year to support public
schools so they can provide a forum for kids to do what they see and
hear on TV and radio. They are there to provide education, and to
create a disciplined atmosphere in which that education can take place.
A music teacher has a duty to teach music. If a choir is presenting
spirituals, then there's an obligation to teach the kids how to sing
spirituals, to put them in context, to understand their origins and the
purpose they served to the people that created them. There's an
obligation to present them authentically, and if they don't, then that
tells me that there's not a proper education about spirituals going on.
If you call your group a "vocal jazz choir," then you'd better present
some jazz. As a music teacher, you'd better be able to educate your
students about jazz, and if you can't show, at a concert which parents
are attending, that your students can do jazz, then the only conclusion
is that jazz is not being taught.
The band program in this school is similar. They're fixated on marching
band. When they put on a jazz, classical or pops concert, it all sounds
like marching band. Fer chrissakes, they can't even do a concert march
without it sounding like they're all out on a football field, huffing
and puffing, blaring and blatting out the song like they're playing to
an audience that's 100 yards away. They're more concerned with
formations than music theory. My two oldest kids are sophomore and
senior in high school, have been in the band and choir programs
throughout their school years, but they've never been taught key
signatures, for instance.
I have a theory about high school choir teachers. It seems that the
vast majority of them, at least around here, come out of religious
colleges, such as St. Olaf or Luther. Those schools have excellent
choirs, no doubt, but they have an emphasis on religious music, of
course. After their students graduate with their music-education
degrees, they hit the public schools, and they can't do exclusively
religious music any more. They don't know what to do, they seem to have
no background in secular music in general, and jazz in particular. This
leads to public-school concert programs with a large percentage of
religious songs, and the remainder defaults to pop. I'd speculate
further and guess that the current state of pop Christian music
influences the situation, too -- and pop Christian music is the single
worst genre of music existent on Earth right now. Even worse than
modern country. Every horrible musical cliche and fad applied to
excess. Ack.
Re: More American Idol
Brian Running wrote:
>> Music, especially pop, is just supposed to be fun. My "super special
>> music snob sense" is starting to tingle.
>
> No, it isn't. You just want to argue. You have no "super special music
> snob sense." Your only frame of reference is old rock and roll covers
> played in bars -- just because some musicians aim a little higher than
> the least common denominator doesn't make them snobs.
Yeh, that's not snobbery at all. Glad we got *that* cleared up.
> But, for anyone else that might care -- a school is not an entertainment
> venue. School music programs are there to teach music, not entertain. I
> don't pay thousands of dollars of taxes each year to support public
> schools so they can provide a forum for kids to do what they see and
> hear on TV and radio. They are there to provide education, and to
> create a disciplined atmosphere in which that education can take place.
I'd say that's a little uptight and unrealistic, but at least its an answer.
Brian Running wrote:
>> Music, especially pop, is just supposed to be fun. My "super special
>> music snob sense" is starting to tingle.
>
> No, it isn't. You just want to argue. You have no "super special music
> snob sense." Your only frame of reference is old rock and roll covers
> played in bars -- just because some musicians aim a little higher than
> the least common denominator doesn't make them snobs.
Yeh, that's not snobbery at all. Glad we got *that* cleared up.
> But, for anyone else that might care -- a school is not an entertainment
> venue. School music programs are there to teach music, not entertain. I
> don't pay thousands of dollars of taxes each year to support public
> schools so they can provide a forum for kids to do what they see and
> hear on TV and radio. They are there to provide education, and to
> create a disciplined atmosphere in which that education can take place.
I'd say that's a little uptight and unrealistic, but at least its an answer.
Re: More American Idol
>> But, for anyone else that might care -- a school is not an
>> entertainment venue. School music programs are there to teach music,
>> not entertain. I don't pay thousands of dollars of taxes each year to
>> support public schools so they can provide a forum for kids to do what
>> they see and hear on TV and radio. They are there to provide
>> education, and to create a disciplined atmosphere in which that
>> education can take place.
>
> I'd say that's a little uptight and unrealistic, but at least its an
> answer.
It's not uptight and certainly not unrealistic, because that's the way
it was when I came through public school. Last fall, my daughter's
regular choir teacher went on maternity leave, and they had a sub for a
few months. An old-school sub, and I do mean old, in his eighties. He
came in with certain expectations for the level at which the students
would be, and they were not met. He was strict, and demanding, and as
is almost always the case, some kids grumbled and played the prima donna
but most of them responded well to it. Their holiday concert last
December was excellent. It's not the kids' fault, human nature doesn't
change, they will respond to their teachers just the way we did 30 years
ago. What changes is the prevailing attitude of the teachers, and the
current fads in education techniques. They get looser, less disciplined
and less demanding all the time. Standards continually decline. I
worry about where the next generation of teachers is going to come from,
and how they will be able to teach anything at all. There's a total
lack of discipline.
My youngest son went on a school field trip a couple of days ago. They
were out in the woods, and apparently walked through a new hatch of wood
ticks. So, the teacher sent home a note yesterday, titled "Tic Alert!"
and warning us that our kids might have come home with some tics. For
cryin' out loud...
>> But, for anyone else that might care -- a school is not an
>> entertainment venue. School music programs are there to teach music,
>> not entertain. I don't pay thousands of dollars of taxes each year to
>> support public schools so they can provide a forum for kids to do what
>> they see and hear on TV and radio. They are there to provide
>> education, and to create a disciplined atmosphere in which that
>> education can take place.
>
> I'd say that's a little uptight and unrealistic, but at least its an
> answer.
It's not uptight and certainly not unrealistic, because that's the way
it was when I came through public school. Last fall, my daughter's
regular choir teacher went on maternity leave, and they had a sub for a
few months. An old-school sub, and I do mean old, in his eighties. He
came in with certain expectations for the level at which the students
would be, and they were not met. He was strict, and demanding, and as
is almost always the case, some kids grumbled and played the prima donna
but most of them responded well to it. Their holiday concert last
December was excellent. It's not the kids' fault, human nature doesn't
change, they will respond to their teachers just the way we did 30 years
ago. What changes is the prevailing attitude of the teachers, and the
current fads in education techniques. They get looser, less disciplined
and less demanding all the time. Standards continually decline. I
worry about where the next generation of teachers is going to come from,
and how they will be able to teach anything at all. There's a total
lack of discipline.
My youngest son went on a school field trip a couple of days ago. They
were out in the woods, and apparently walked through a new hatch of wood
ticks. So, the teacher sent home a note yesterday, titled "Tic Alert!"
and warning us that our kids might have come home with some tics. For
cryin' out loud...
Re: More American Idol
Brian Running wrote:
> My youngest son went on a school field trip a couple of days ago. They
> were out in the woods, and apparently walked through a new hatch of wood
> ticks. So, the teacher sent home a note yesterday, titled "Tic Alert!"
> and warning us that our kids might have come home with some tics. For
> cryin' out loud...
If my kid gets a teacher like that, I'm gonna tell him to put a tac on
her chair.
--
Write a wise saying and your name will live forever.
- Anonymous
Brian Running wrote:
> My youngest son went on a school field trip a couple of days ago. They
> were out in the woods, and apparently walked through a new hatch of wood
> ticks. So, the teacher sent home a note yesterday, titled "Tic Alert!"
> and warning us that our kids might have come home with some tics. For
> cryin' out loud...
If my kid gets a teacher like that, I'm gonna tell him to put a tac on
her chair.
--
Write a wise saying and your name will live forever.
- Anonymous
Re: More American Idol
On May 16, 1:50 pm, Jim Carr <newsgro...@azwebpages . com > wrote:
> Brian Running wrote:
> > My youngest son went on a school field trip a couple of days ago. They
> > were out in the woods, and apparently walked through a new hatch of wood
> > ticks. So, the teacher sent home a note yesterday, titled "Tic Alert!"
> > and warning us that our kids might have come home with some tics. For
> > cryin' out loud...
>
> If my kid gets a teacher like that, I'm gonna tell him to put a tac on
> her chair.
>
> --
> Write a wise saying and your name will live forever.
> - Anonymous
that's why my kids go to private school.
except their music teachers at the 2nd - 4th grade levels stink.
so it's private lessons.
On May 16, 1:50 pm, Jim Carr <newsgro...@azwebpages . com > wrote:
> Brian Running wrote:
> > My youngest son went on a school field trip a couple of days ago. They
> > were out in the woods, and apparently walked through a new hatch of wood
> > ticks. So, the teacher sent home a note yesterday, titled "Tic Alert!"
> > and warning us that our kids might have come home with some tics. For
> > cryin' out loud...
>
> If my kid gets a teacher like that, I'm gonna tell him to put a tac on
> her chair.
>
> --
> Write a wise saying and your name will live forever.
> - Anonymous
that's why my kids go to private school.
except their music teachers at the 2nd - 4th grade levels stink.
so it's private lessons.
Re: More American Idol
On May 16, 1:50 pm, Jim Carr <newsgro...@azwebpages . com > wrote:
> Brian Running wrote:
> > My youngest son went on a school field trip a couple of days ago. They
> > were out in the woods, and apparently walked through a new hatch of wood
> > ticks. So, the teacher sent home a note yesterday, titled "Tic Alert!"
> > and warning us that our kids might have come home with some tics. For
> > cryin' out loud...
>
> If my kid gets a teacher like that, I'm gonna tell him to put a tac on
> her chair.
>
> --
> Write a wise saying and your name will live forever.
> - Anonymous
There's something I don't get here. When you go out in the woods, you
encounter "things". Some of those are almost impossible to avoid, like
tics. So the choice becomes stay in the classroom and learn about
nature from books and movies, or go out into nature and learn about
nature from nature. I choose the latter, but maybe that's just me, a
serious nature lover. Seems to me the teacher did exactly the right
thing in alerting the parents.
Aside: When my wife was a teenager, she went to an outdoor-oriented
summer camp, more outdoorsy than most. First week was spent
backpacking. When she told her aunt (think pampered, obnoxiously
wealthy) about her experience, the aunt said, "Can't you find a camp
with inside bathrooms?". Missed the point entirely.
Anyway, I don't see the issue with encountering bugs in the outdoors.
It happens.
BW
On May 16, 1:50 pm, Jim Carr <newsgro...@azwebpages . com > wrote:
> Brian Running wrote:
> > My youngest son went on a school field trip a couple of days ago. They
> > were out in the woods, and apparently walked through a new hatch of wood
> > ticks. So, the teacher sent home a note yesterday, titled "Tic Alert!"
> > and warning us that our kids might have come home with some tics. For
> > cryin' out loud...
>
> If my kid gets a teacher like that, I'm gonna tell him to put a tac on
> her chair.
>
> --
> Write a wise saying and your name will live forever.
> - Anonymous
There's something I don't get here. When you go out in the woods, you
encounter "things". Some of those are almost impossible to avoid, like
tics. So the choice becomes stay in the classroom and learn about
nature from books and movies, or go out into nature and learn about
nature from nature. I choose the latter, but maybe that's just me, a
serious nature lover. Seems to me the teacher did exactly the right
thing in alerting the parents.
Aside: When my wife was a teenager, she went to an outdoor-oriented
summer camp, more outdoorsy than most. First week was spent
backpacking. When she told her aunt (think pampered, obnoxiously
wealthy) about her experience, the aunt said, "Can't you find a camp
with inside bathrooms?". Missed the point entirely.
Anyway, I don't see the issue with encountering bugs in the outdoors.
It happens.
BW
