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Re: Sweet Emotion
> It seems to me that a good number of respectable bass players (Paul
> McCartney, for example) frequently used a pick.
> It's where you go....not how you get there.
I guess this is another one of those touchy subjects that can't be
discussed objectively. Put it on the list.
I don't think anyone has attacked the use of a pick. Some people,
including me, have commented... suggested... that the use of a pick to
make the intro on "Sweet Emotion" easier is completely wrong. If you
can't play that intro faster fingerstyle than with a pick, then you
really need to practice your fingerstyle a lot more. Not abandon your
pick, just practice your fingerstyle more. And, be less touchy about
the use of a pick. We all use a pick when it's appropriate.
> It seems to me that a good number of respectable bass players (Paul
> McCartney, for example) frequently used a pick.
> It's where you go....not how you get there.
I guess this is another one of those touchy subjects that can't be
discussed objectively. Put it on the list.
I don't think anyone has attacked the use of a pick. Some people,
including me, have commented... suggested... that the use of a pick to
make the intro on "Sweet Emotion" easier is completely wrong. If you
can't play that intro faster fingerstyle than with a pick, then you
really need to practice your fingerstyle a lot more. Not abandon your
pick, just practice your fingerstyle more. And, be less touchy about
the use of a pick. We all use a pick when it's appropriate.
Re: Sweet Emotion
Brian Running wrote:
>> It seems to me that a good number of respectable bass players (Paul
>> McCartney, for example) frequently used a pick.
>> It's where you go....not how you get there.
>
> I guess this is another one of those touchy subjects that can't be
> discussed objectively. Put it on the list.
>
> I don't think anyone has attacked the use of a pick. Some people,
> including me, have commented... suggested... that the use of a pick to
> make the intro on "Sweet Emotion" easier is completely wrong. If you
> can't play that intro faster fingerstyle than with a pick, then you
> really need to practice your fingerstyle a lot more. Not abandon your
> pick, just practice your fingerstyle more. And, be less touchy about
> the use of a pick. We all use a pick when it's appropriate.
I couldn't do this line very well at all with a pick. I tried, didn't
work out for me. We do have a few songs that we do that I use a pick
for. For the attack sound it gives me. Everything else is finger style.
I came over to bass from guitar. But when I very first started bass I
told myself I was NOT going to use a pick, and I didn't. If I had I
would have missed learning finger style and used the pick as a crutch
and I knew it. It's nice to have both styles to draw from.
Brian Running wrote:
>> It seems to me that a good number of respectable bass players (Paul
>> McCartney, for example) frequently used a pick.
>> It's where you go....not how you get there.
>
> I guess this is another one of those touchy subjects that can't be
> discussed objectively. Put it on the list.
>
> I don't think anyone has attacked the use of a pick. Some people,
> including me, have commented... suggested... that the use of a pick to
> make the intro on "Sweet Emotion" easier is completely wrong. If you
> can't play that intro faster fingerstyle than with a pick, then you
> really need to practice your fingerstyle a lot more. Not abandon your
> pick, just practice your fingerstyle more. And, be less touchy about
> the use of a pick. We all use a pick when it's appropriate.
I couldn't do this line very well at all with a pick. I tried, didn't
work out for me. We do have a few songs that we do that I use a pick
for. For the attack sound it gives me. Everything else is finger style.
I came over to bass from guitar. But when I very first started bass I
told myself I was NOT going to use a pick, and I didn't. If I had I
would have missed learning finger style and used the pick as a crutch
and I knew it. It's nice to have both styles to draw from.
Re: Sweet Emotion
> I came over to bass from guitar.
I did too -- when I was 9 years old. A hell of a long time ago. I
started playing bass with my thumb, because that old Precision bass had
the finger bar dealio below the strings, so obviously, you plucked with
your thumb!
> I came over to bass from guitar.
I did too -- when I was 9 years old. A hell of a long time ago. I
started playing bass with my thumb, because that old Precision bass had
the finger bar dealio below the strings, so obviously, you plucked with
your thumb!
Re: Sweet Emotion
Brian Running <brunning@XXameritechXX,net > wrote:
>> It seems to me that a good number of respectable bass players (Paul
>> McCartney, for example) frequently used a pick.
>> It's where you go....not how you get there.
>
> I guess this is another one of those touchy subjects that can't be
> discussed objectively. Put it on the list.
>
> I don't think anyone has attacked the use of a pick. Some people,
> including me, have commented... suggested... that the use of a pick
> to make the intro on "Sweet Emotion" easier is completely wrong. If
> you can't play that intro faster fingerstyle than with a pick, then
> you really need to practice your fingerstyle a lot more. Not abandon
> your pick, just practice your fingerstyle more. And, be less touchy
> about the use of a pick. We all use a pick when it's appropriate.
Sure it can be discussed objectively. What I don't understand is what
makes the use of a pick inappropriate for this song!
And yeah, I'll practice my fingerstyle more. Actually whoever it was
(forget now, too lazy to look) who suggested using the thumb on the A
string and two fingers on the D and G strings kind of excited a
resonance in me. That's something that's worth trying, for me at least!
Brian Running <brunning@XXameritechXX,net > wrote:
>> It seems to me that a good number of respectable bass players (Paul
>> McCartney, for example) frequently used a pick.
>> It's where you go....not how you get there.
>
> I guess this is another one of those touchy subjects that can't be
> discussed objectively. Put it on the list.
>
> I don't think anyone has attacked the use of a pick. Some people,
> including me, have commented... suggested... that the use of a pick
> to make the intro on "Sweet Emotion" easier is completely wrong. If
> you can't play that intro faster fingerstyle than with a pick, then
> you really need to practice your fingerstyle a lot more. Not abandon
> your pick, just practice your fingerstyle more. And, be less touchy
> about the use of a pick. We all use a pick when it's appropriate.
Sure it can be discussed objectively. What I don't understand is what
makes the use of a pick inappropriate for this song!
And yeah, I'll practice my fingerstyle more. Actually whoever it was
(forget now, too lazy to look) who suggested using the thumb on the A
string and two fingers on the D and G strings kind of excited a
resonance in me. That's something that's worth trying, for me at least!
Re: Sweet Emotion
On Apr 21, 7:54 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> Brian Running <brunn...@XXameritechXX,net > wrote:
> >> It seems to me that a good number of respectable bass players (Paul
> >> McCartney, for example) frequently used a pick.
> >> It's where you go....not how you get there.
>
> > I guess this is another one of those touchy subjects that can't be
> > discussed objectively. Put it on the list.
>
> > I don't think anyone has attacked the use of a pick. Some people,
> > including me, have commented... suggested... that the use of a pick
> > to make the intro on "Sweet Emotion" easier is completely wrong. If
> > you can't play that intro faster fingerstyle than with a pick, then
> > you really need to practice your fingerstyle a lot more. Not abandon
> > your pick, just practice your fingerstyle more. And, be less touchy
> > about the use of a pick. We all use a pick when it's appropriate.
>
> Sure it can be discussed objectively. What I don't understand is what
> makes the use of a pick inappropriate for this song!
>
> And yeah, I'll practice my fingerstyle more. Actually whoever it was
> (forget now, too lazy to look) who suggested using the thumb on the A
> string and two fingers on the D and G strings kind of excited a
> resonance in me. That's something that's worth trying, for me at least!
Nice, I've touched two lives in a positive manner. Somedays, that's
enough right there.
On Apr 21, 7:54 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> Brian Running <brunn...@XXameritechXX,net > wrote:
> >> It seems to me that a good number of respectable bass players (Paul
> >> McCartney, for example) frequently used a pick.
> >> It's where you go....not how you get there.
>
> > I guess this is another one of those touchy subjects that can't be
> > discussed objectively. Put it on the list.
>
> > I don't think anyone has attacked the use of a pick. Some people,
> > including me, have commented... suggested... that the use of a pick
> > to make the intro on "Sweet Emotion" easier is completely wrong. If
> > you can't play that intro faster fingerstyle than with a pick, then
> > you really need to practice your fingerstyle a lot more. Not abandon
> > your pick, just practice your fingerstyle more. And, be less touchy
> > about the use of a pick. We all use a pick when it's appropriate.
>
> Sure it can be discussed objectively. What I don't understand is what
> makes the use of a pick inappropriate for this song!
>
> And yeah, I'll practice my fingerstyle more. Actually whoever it was
> (forget now, too lazy to look) who suggested using the thumb on the A
> string and two fingers on the D and G strings kind of excited a
> resonance in me. That's something that's worth trying, for me at least!
Nice, I've touched two lives in a positive manner. Somedays, that's
enough right there.
Re: Sweet Emotion
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:34:20 -0500, bmiawmb@toddh,net (Todd H.) wrote:
>JimmyM <mmm@nnn,com > writes:
>
>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:05:34 GMT, "RichL" <rpleavitt@yahoo,com > wrote:
>>
>>>OscartheGrouch <tondaleo@hotmail,com > wrote:
>>>> My band does this song. They also want me to do the bass intro
>>>> correctly. (Funny they can't do it well enough to SHOW me.) Anyway, I
>>>> do a close approximation of the intro line as shown in this tab:
>>>>
>>> http :// www .ultimate-guitar,com /tabs/a/aerosmith/sweet_emotion_ver2_btab.htm
>>>> (sure hope they don't get shut down on the basis of this post lol)
>>>>
>>>> That tab seems to me to be accurate, that is exactly what I hear being
>>>> played. However it is quite a little tongue twister so to speak. I can
>>>> do it as per the tab slowly, but up to tempo I have trouble doing it
>>>> consistently. Specifically, it's the G note on the G string followed
>>>> by two sixteenth notes on the A note of the A string followed by the A
>>>> (octave) on the G string, all done as consecutive sixteenth notes,
>>>> that get my index and middle finger tied up. The only way I can see to
>>>> correctly play this is to alternate fingers on each and every note in
>>>> that part. ( I can get away with raking in the 2nd measure as the
>>>> notes fall on the A and the D string.)
>>>>
>>>> Anyone else do this song? Do you agree that this tab is correct? Do
>>>> you play it that way, if so, got any suggestions or tips? Just
>>>> practice it more maybe?
>>>
>>>Use a pick. Much easier that way.
>>>
>> YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!!!
>
>Ironically, the hit "I'm the Man" by Joe Jackson has a rockin bass part
>played fabulously by Graham Maby.....
>
>
>with a pick.
>
>I'm an all fingerstyle player myself, but to go after someone's
>manliness based on right hand bass guitar technique choice is, well
>rather gay.
>
>(Yes, irony intended just for JimmyM)
LOL! What's the matter? Can't break balls now and then?!?
Anyway, the only reason I said that is that Tom Hamilton plays it with
fingers, and if he can do it, I would think most people can because
he's not exactly a naturally strong bass player, which he even admits.
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:34:20 -0500, bmiawmb@toddh,net (Todd H.) wrote:
>JimmyM <mmm@nnn,com > writes:
>
>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:05:34 GMT, "RichL" <rpleavitt@yahoo,com > wrote:
>>
>>>OscartheGrouch <tondaleo@hotmail,com > wrote:
>>>> My band does this song. They also want me to do the bass intro
>>>> correctly. (Funny they can't do it well enough to SHOW me.) Anyway, I
>>>> do a close approximation of the intro line as shown in this tab:
>>>>
>>> http :// www .ultimate-guitar,com /tabs/a/aerosmith/sweet_emotion_ver2_btab.htm
>>>> (sure hope they don't get shut down on the basis of this post lol)
>>>>
>>>> That tab seems to me to be accurate, that is exactly what I hear being
>>>> played. However it is quite a little tongue twister so to speak. I can
>>>> do it as per the tab slowly, but up to tempo I have trouble doing it
>>>> consistently. Specifically, it's the G note on the G string followed
>>>> by two sixteenth notes on the A note of the A string followed by the A
>>>> (octave) on the G string, all done as consecutive sixteenth notes,
>>>> that get my index and middle finger tied up. The only way I can see to
>>>> correctly play this is to alternate fingers on each and every note in
>>>> that part. ( I can get away with raking in the 2nd measure as the
>>>> notes fall on the A and the D string.)
>>>>
>>>> Anyone else do this song? Do you agree that this tab is correct? Do
>>>> you play it that way, if so, got any suggestions or tips? Just
>>>> practice it more maybe?
>>>
>>>Use a pick. Much easier that way.
>>>
>> YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!!!
>
>Ironically, the hit "I'm the Man" by Joe Jackson has a rockin bass part
>played fabulously by Graham Maby.....
>
>
>with a pick.
>
>I'm an all fingerstyle player myself, but to go after someone's
>manliness based on right hand bass guitar technique choice is, well
>rather gay.
>
>(Yes, irony intended just for JimmyM)
LOL! What's the matter? Can't break balls now and then?!?
Anyway, the only reason I said that is that Tom Hamilton plays it with
fingers, and if he can do it, I would think most people can because
he's not exactly a naturally strong bass player, which he even admits.
Re: Sweet Emotion
> Anyone else do this song? Do you agree that this tab is correct?
Yeah, I do that song. Tab looks generally right, though if that
vertical line is supposed to be a measure line, then I think it's
misplaced. There should be one more A at the very end of the phrase,
too, I think. But anyway, as far as plucking, I watched my right hand
as I played it, and it turns out I do it both ways -- starting with
index finger and starting with second finger -- subconsciously. More
often starting with index finger. It just comes out that way. This is
for sure, though, each note is plucked separately, there are no
hammer-ons or pull-offs, and between the D-A and the D-flat-A I drag my
plucking finger from D string to A string. That's not a "rake" to me,
that's just simple economy of motion. A rake is three strings or more,
just as two notes is only an interval, it take three to make a chord.
> Anyone else do this song? Do you agree that this tab is correct?
Yeah, I do that song. Tab looks generally right, though if that
vertical line is supposed to be a measure line, then I think it's
misplaced. There should be one more A at the very end of the phrase,
too, I think. But anyway, as far as plucking, I watched my right hand
as I played it, and it turns out I do it both ways -- starting with
index finger and starting with second finger -- subconsciously. More
often starting with index finger. It just comes out that way. This is
for sure, though, each note is plucked separately, there are no
hammer-ons or pull-offs, and between the D-A and the D-flat-A I drag my
plucking finger from D string to A string. That's not a "rake" to me,
that's just simple economy of motion. A rake is three strings or more,
just as two notes is only an interval, it take three to make a chord.
Re: Sweet Emotion
That's not a "rake" to me,
> that's just simple economy of motion.
Thank you, I agree wholehearetedly. I mean you could pluck every note
separately, including those notes, and make more work for yourself in
the process. But why? I also drag my plucking finger in the D-A and
D-flat-A part, economizing motion and effort. Wasn't sure about the
"rake" terminology. Anyway it sounds from all this like I'm basically on
the right track and just need more practice on this. It's that cross
string plucking/alternating fingers at sixteenth note speed that's
making it tough for me. But I do now see how that is a skill worth
working on, and not just for this song.
That's not a "rake" to me,
> that's just simple economy of motion.
Thank you, I agree wholehearetedly. I mean you could pluck every note
separately, including those notes, and make more work for yourself in
the process. But why? I also drag my plucking finger in the D-A and
D-flat-A part, economizing motion and effort. Wasn't sure about the
"rake" terminology. Anyway it sounds from all this like I'm basically on
the right track and just need more practice on this. It's that cross
string plucking/alternating fingers at sixteenth note speed that's
making it tough for me. But I do now see how that is a skill worth
working on, and not just for this song.
Re: Sweet Emotion
On Apr 18, 2:44 pm, OscartheGrouch <tonda...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> That's not a "rake" to me,
>
> > that's just simple economy of motion.
>
> Thank you, I agree wholehearetedly. I mean you could pluck every note
> separately, including those notes, and make more work for yourself in
> the process. But why? I also drag my plucking finger in the D-A and
> D-flat-A part, economizing motion and effort. Wasn't sure about the
> "rake" terminology. Anyway it sounds from all this like I'm basically on
> the right track and just need more practice on this. It's that cross
> string plucking/alternating fingers at sixteenth note speed that's
> making it tough for me. But I do now see how that is a skill worth
> working on, and not just for this song.
Ok another attempt. IMHO, that tab you are reading is inaccurate.
The rythym is thus : 1 + 2 e + a 3 e a 4 e + a
The notes are thus : A A g a A A a A a d A c c#
Where the capital "A"s are open A string, and the g and a are played
on the D string at the 17th and 19th fret. d c and c# 12th , 10th
and 11th.
Fairly easy to play, and there is definitely a "c" natural in the
lick. Unless we are somehow referencing different versions.
If you want to string skip to add difficulty, play the g and a on the
Gstring...
I wish there was a way to write proper notation online somewhere...
On Apr 18, 2:44 pm, OscartheGrouch <tonda...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> That's not a "rake" to me,
>
> > that's just simple economy of motion.
>
> Thank you, I agree wholehearetedly. I mean you could pluck every note
> separately, including those notes, and make more work for yourself in
> the process. But why? I also drag my plucking finger in the D-A and
> D-flat-A part, economizing motion and effort. Wasn't sure about the
> "rake" terminology. Anyway it sounds from all this like I'm basically on
> the right track and just need more practice on this. It's that cross
> string plucking/alternating fingers at sixteenth note speed that's
> making it tough for me. But I do now see how that is a skill worth
> working on, and not just for this song.
Ok another attempt. IMHO, that tab you are reading is inaccurate.
The rythym is thus : 1 + 2 e + a 3 e a 4 e + a
The notes are thus : A A g a A A a A a d A c c#
Where the capital "A"s are open A string, and the g and a are played
on the D string at the 17th and 19th fret. d c and c# 12th , 10th
and 11th.
Fairly easy to play, and there is definitely a "c" natural in the
lick. Unless we are somehow referencing different versions.
If you want to string skip to add difficulty, play the g and a on the
Gstring...
I wish there was a way to write proper notation online somewhere...
Re: Sweet Emotion
Neil N wrote:
> The rythym is thus : 1 + 2 e + a 3 e a 4 e + a
> The notes are thus : A A g a A A a A a d A c c#
>
> Where the capital "A"s are open A string, and the g and a are played
> on the D string at the 17th and 19th fret. d c and c# 12th , 10th
> and 11th.
> Fairly easy to play, and there is definitely a "c" natural in the
> lick.
Please stop spreading misinformation. There is no "C" natural or open
strings in the opening riff.
If you beg to differ, please consult the transcription from "Bass
Player" magazine which Tom Hamilton *himself* was consulted for. Next
you'll say Tom's playing it wrong...?
Neil N wrote:
> The rythym is thus : 1 + 2 e + a 3 e a 4 e + a
> The notes are thus : A A g a A A a A a d A c c#
>
> Where the capital "A"s are open A string, and the g and a are played
> on the D string at the 17th and 19th fret. d c and c# 12th , 10th
> and 11th.
> Fairly easy to play, and there is definitely a "c" natural in the
> lick.
Please stop spreading misinformation. There is no "C" natural or open
strings in the opening riff.
If you beg to differ, please consult the transcription from "Bass
Player" magazine which Tom Hamilton *himself* was consulted for. Next
you'll say Tom's playing it wrong...?
Re: Sweet Emotion
Crash Bandicoot wrote:
> Neil N wrote:
>
>> The rythym is thus : 1 + 2 e + a 3 e a 4 e + a
>> The notes are thus : A A g a A A a A a d A c c#
>>
>> Where the capital "A"s are open A string, and the g and a are played
>> on the D string at the 17th and 19th fret. d c and c# 12th , 10th
>> and 11th.
>> Fairly easy to play, and there is definitely a "c" natural in the
>> lick.
>
>
> Please stop spreading misinformation. There is no "C" natural or open
> strings in the opening riff.
>
It can be a B, it can be a C. It's a very short passing tone to the C#,
then to the A. The B gives it a major flavor, the C a blues flavor.
> If you beg to differ, please consult the transcription from "Bass
> Player" magazine which Tom Hamilton *himself* was consulted for. Next
> you'll say Tom's playing it wrong...?
--
Les Cargill
Crash Bandicoot wrote:
> Neil N wrote:
>
>> The rythym is thus : 1 + 2 e + a 3 e a 4 e + a
>> The notes are thus : A A g a A A a A a d A c c#
>>
>> Where the capital "A"s are open A string, and the g and a are played
>> on the D string at the 17th and 19th fret. d c and c# 12th , 10th
>> and 11th.
>> Fairly easy to play, and there is definitely a "c" natural in the
>> lick.
>
>
> Please stop spreading misinformation. There is no "C" natural or open
> strings in the opening riff.
>
It can be a B, it can be a C. It's a very short passing tone to the C#,
then to the A. The B gives it a major flavor, the C a blues flavor.
> If you beg to differ, please consult the transcription from "Bass
> Player" magazine which Tom Hamilton *himself* was consulted for. Next
> you'll say Tom's playing it wrong...?
--
Les Cargill
Re: Sweet Emotion
On Apr 18, 10:09 pm, Les Cargill <lcarg...@cfl.rr,com > wrote:
> Crash Bandicoot wrote:
> > Neil N wrote:
>
> >> The rythym is thus : 1 + 2 e + a 3 e a 4 e + a
> >> The notes are thus : A A g a A A a A a d A c c#
>
> >> Where the capital "A"s are open A string, and the g and a are played
> >> on the D string at the 17th and 19th fret. d c and c# 12th , 10th
> >> and 11th.
> >> Fairly easy to play, and there is definitely a "c" natural in the
> >> lick.
>
> > Please stop spreading misinformation. There is no "C" natural or open
> > strings in the opening riff.
>
> It can be a B, it can be a C. It's a very short passing tone to the C#,
> then to the A. The B gives it a major flavor, the C a blues flavor.
>
> > If you beg to differ, please consult the transcription from "Bass
> > Player" magazine which Tom Hamilton *himself* was consulted for. Next
> > you'll say Tom's playing it wrong...?
>
> --
> Les Cargill- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I missed all the stuff about the JFK controversy... Sorry Jeff, if
I've somehow disapointed you... :^)
I thought I said the open A just made it easier.. IMHO, Always more
appropriate to play in the groove than flounder beyond one's
technique. That's a lesson I would teach all "newbs" without any
misgiving.
I did another quick listen, and found that what I thought was a C is
an A. Interesting phenomenon, hearing what one wants to hear and not
what's there.
I can play it exactly and easily ( for me) like the record using a
classical guitar technique, that is rh thumb (p) playing the 12th
fret A, and index (i) middle (m) playing the other notes.
I haven't checked Tom Hamilton's article, so sorry. I certainly do not
suggest he played it or dictated it wrong. :^)
On Apr 18, 10:09 pm, Les Cargill <lcarg...@cfl.rr,com > wrote:
> Crash Bandicoot wrote:
> > Neil N wrote:
>
> >> The rythym is thus : 1 + 2 e + a 3 e a 4 e + a
> >> The notes are thus : A A g a A A a A a d A c c#
>
> >> Where the capital "A"s are open A string, and the g and a are played
> >> on the D string at the 17th and 19th fret. d c and c# 12th , 10th
> >> and 11th.
> >> Fairly easy to play, and there is definitely a "c" natural in the
> >> lick.
>
> > Please stop spreading misinformation. There is no "C" natural or open
> > strings in the opening riff.
>
> It can be a B, it can be a C. It's a very short passing tone to the C#,
> then to the A. The B gives it a major flavor, the C a blues flavor.
>
> > If you beg to differ, please consult the transcription from "Bass
> > Player" magazine which Tom Hamilton *himself* was consulted for. Next
> > you'll say Tom's playing it wrong...?
>
> --
> Les Cargill- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I missed all the stuff about the JFK controversy... Sorry Jeff, if
I've somehow disapointed you... :^)
I thought I said the open A just made it easier.. IMHO, Always more
appropriate to play in the groove than flounder beyond one's
technique. That's a lesson I would teach all "newbs" without any
misgiving.
I did another quick listen, and found that what I thought was a C is
an A. Interesting phenomenon, hearing what one wants to hear and not
what's there.
I can play it exactly and easily ( for me) like the record using a
classical guitar technique, that is rh thumb (p) playing the 12th
fret A, and index (i) middle (m) playing the other notes.
I haven't checked Tom Hamilton's article, so sorry. I certainly do not
suggest he played it or dictated it wrong. :^)
Re: Sweet Emotion
>
> I can play it exactly and easily ( for me) like the record using a
> classical guitar technique, that is rh thumb (p) playing the 12th
> fret A, and index (i) middle (m) playing the other notes.
Haha, I just tried that. Piece of cake. Mission accomplished. Thanks.
That never entered my mind, yet it turned the whole thing around into a
very manageable passage. I thank you.
>
> I can play it exactly and easily ( for me) like the record using a
> classical guitar technique, that is rh thumb (p) playing the 12th
> fret A, and index (i) middle (m) playing the other notes.
Haha, I just tried that. Piece of cake. Mission accomplished. Thanks.
That never entered my mind, yet it turned the whole thing around into a
very manageable passage. I thank you.
Re: Sweet Emotion
On Apr 18, 2:44 pm, OscartheGrouch <tonda...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> That's not a "rake" to me,
>
> > that's just simple economy of motion.
>
> Thank you, I agree wholehearetedly. I mean you could pluck every note
> separately, including those notes, and make more work for yourself in
> the process. But why? I also drag my plucking finger in the D-A and
> D-flat-A part, economizing motion and effort. Wasn't sure about the
> "rake" terminology. Anyway it sounds from all this like I'm basically on
> the right track and just need more practice on this. It's that cross
> string plucking/alternating fingers at sixteenth note speed that's
> making it tough for me. But I do now see how that is a skill worth
> working on, and not just for this song.
well the exact correct way is to quickly stuff your fingers into your
armpits after each measure
On Apr 18, 2:44 pm, OscartheGrouch <tonda...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> That's not a "rake" to me,
>
> > that's just simple economy of motion.
>
> Thank you, I agree wholehearetedly. I mean you could pluck every note
> separately, including those notes, and make more work for yourself in
> the process. But why? I also drag my plucking finger in the D-A and
> D-flat-A part, economizing motion and effort. Wasn't sure about the
> "rake" terminology. Anyway it sounds from all this like I'm basically on
> the right track and just need more practice on this. It's that cross
> string plucking/alternating fingers at sixteenth note speed that's
> making it tough for me. But I do now see how that is a skill worth
> working on, and not just for this song.
well the exact correct way is to quickly stuff your fingers into your
armpits after each measure
Re: Sweet Emotion
jeffb wrote:
> Crash Bandicoot wrote:
>
>>
>> Please stop spreading misinformation. There is no "C" natural or open
>> strings in the opening riff.
>
> Relax dude, it's just a stupid rock song. "Misinformation" would be
> something like "Hey kids, it's FINE to plug yer 120v power amp into a
> 240v panel" when really it's not all that fine. I'm not saying Neil's
> right and you're wrong..,fr ankly I couldn't care less about the exact
> bass part on a 30 year old cover tune. I am saying it doesn't even come
> close to mattering enough to call it "misinformation". If you played
> what Neil's saying is the part during a bar gig (and where the fuck else
> are you gonna play it?), right or wrong, nobody, and I mean NOBODY would
> know the difference much less care. And you or any other Arrowsmith
> bass scholars don't count as you will never buy enough beer for your
> opinions to matter to a bar owner. That's the stone cold reality of the
> bass line for Sweet Emotion.
>
> And all that said there's absolutely NOTHING wrong with getting the
> exact line down..,it just doesn't matter much.
>
>
When someone asks how to play something *properly* then the correct
answer is the one that reflects what's on the recording.
The OP did not ask, "How can I expand on this classic riff and make it
my own?". If that were the question, then anything goes...
Since the OP wants to play it as written, why debate what notes and
positions comprise the bass line when the *author* of the part was
diligent enough to explain *exactly* how he plays it?
jeffb wrote:
> Crash Bandicoot wrote:
>
>>
>> Please stop spreading misinformation. There is no "C" natural or open
>> strings in the opening riff.
>
> Relax dude, it's just a stupid rock song. "Misinformation" would be
> something like "Hey kids, it's FINE to plug yer 120v power amp into a
> 240v panel" when really it's not all that fine. I'm not saying Neil's
> right and you're wrong..,fr ankly I couldn't care less about the exact
> bass part on a 30 year old cover tune. I am saying it doesn't even come
> close to mattering enough to call it "misinformation". If you played
> what Neil's saying is the part during a bar gig (and where the fuck else
> are you gonna play it?), right or wrong, nobody, and I mean NOBODY would
> know the difference much less care. And you or any other Arrowsmith
> bass scholars don't count as you will never buy enough beer for your
> opinions to matter to a bar owner. That's the stone cold reality of the
> bass line for Sweet Emotion.
>
> And all that said there's absolutely NOTHING wrong with getting the
> exact line down..,it just doesn't matter much.
>
>
When someone asks how to play something *properly* then the correct
answer is the one that reflects what's on the recording.
The OP did not ask, "How can I expand on this classic riff and make it
my own?". If that were the question, then anything goes...
Since the OP wants to play it as written, why debate what notes and
positions comprise the bass line when the *author* of the part was
diligent enough to explain *exactly* how he plays it?
