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Re: Jamming vs. Working
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:12:38 -0700 (PDT), Pt <peatea@yahoo,com > wrote:
>On Apr 30, 9:45 pm, JimmyM <m...@nnn,com > wrote:
>
>I am not a pro player but I have been playing covers and jazz for over
>40 years.
>If someone says they will show up at a gig without extensive
>rehearsing with the band and not knowing the songs I don't want
>anything to do with them no matter how good they are.
Who says I wouldn't know the songs?
>Too many bass players have the attitude that they are better than
>everybody else.
>They may be very good but if they don't know the arrangemtnts, hooks
>etc they are no better than a rank beginner in my opinion.
>You would not be welcome to join my band no matter how good you are or
>think you are.
>
>Learn then Earn.
Fair enough. I get enough work from people who don't make me rehearse
;)
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:12:38 -0700 (PDT), Pt <peatea@yahoo,com > wrote:
>On Apr 30, 9:45 pm, JimmyM <m...@nnn,com > wrote:
>
>I am not a pro player but I have been playing covers and jazz for over
>40 years.
>If someone says they will show up at a gig without extensive
>rehearsing with the band and not knowing the songs I don't want
>anything to do with them no matter how good they are.
Who says I wouldn't know the songs?
>Too many bass players have the attitude that they are better than
>everybody else.
>They may be very good but if they don't know the arrangemtnts, hooks
>etc they are no better than a rank beginner in my opinion.
>You would not be welcome to join my band no matter how good you are or
>think you are.
>
>Learn then Earn.
Fair enough. I get enough work from people who don't make me rehearse
;)
Re: Jamming vs. Working
On May 1, 10:19 am, JimmyM <m...@nnn,com > wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:12:38 -0700 (PDT), Pt <pea...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> >On Apr 30, 9:45 pm, JimmyM <m...@nnn,com > wrote:
>
> >I am not a pro player but I have been playing covers and jazz for over
> >40 years.
> >If someone says they will show up at a gig without extensive
> >rehearsing with the band and not knowing the songs I don't want
> >anything to do with them no matter how good they are.
>
> Who says I wouldn't know the songs?
>
> >Too many bass players have the attitude that they are better than
> >everybody else.
> >They may be very good but if they don't know the arrangemtnts, hooks
> >etc they are no better than a rank beginner in my opinion.
> >You would not be welcome to join my band no matter how good you are or
> >think you are.
>
> >Learn then Earn.
>
> Fair enough. I get enough work from people who don't make me rehearse
> ;)
Glad you are taking this in jest.
Pt
On May 1, 10:19 am, JimmyM <m...@nnn,com > wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:12:38 -0700 (PDT), Pt <pea...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> >On Apr 30, 9:45 pm, JimmyM <m...@nnn,com > wrote:
>
> >I am not a pro player but I have been playing covers and jazz for over
> >40 years.
> >If someone says they will show up at a gig without extensive
> >rehearsing with the band and not knowing the songs I don't want
> >anything to do with them no matter how good they are.
>
> Who says I wouldn't know the songs?
>
> >Too many bass players have the attitude that they are better than
> >everybody else.
> >They may be very good but if they don't know the arrangemtnts, hooks
> >etc they are no better than a rank beginner in my opinion.
> >You would not be welcome to join my band no matter how good you are or
> >think you are.
>
> >Learn then Earn.
>
> Fair enough. I get enough work from people who don't make me rehearse
> ;)
Glad you are taking this in jest.
Pt
Re: Jamming vs. Working
On May 1, 12:48 pm, Pt <pea...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> Glad you are taking this in jest.
>
> Pt
Oh! You meant your comments as a JOKE! Well, then... never mind!
Corey
On May 1, 12:48 pm, Pt <pea...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> Glad you are taking this in jest.
>
> Pt
Oh! You meant your comments as a JOKE! Well, then... never mind!
Corey
Re: Jamming vs. Working
On May 1, 1:14 pm, coreybenson <coreyben...@gmail,com > wrote:
> On May 1, 12:48 pm, Pt <pea...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > Glad you are taking this in jest.
>
> > Pt
>
> Oh! You meant your comments as a JOKE! Well, then... never mind!
>
> Corey
I never want to hurt anyones feelings unless they deserve it.
Pt
On May 1, 1:14 pm, coreybenson <coreyben...@gmail,com > wrote:
> On May 1, 12:48 pm, Pt <pea...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > Glad you are taking this in jest.
>
> > Pt
>
> Oh! You meant your comments as a JOKE! Well, then... never mind!
>
> Corey
I never want to hurt anyones feelings unless they deserve it.
Pt
Re: Jamming vs. Working
On May 1, 1:35 pm, Pt <pea...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> On May 1, 1:14 pm, coreybenson <coreyben...@gmail,com > wrote:
>
> > On May 1, 12:48 pm, Pt <pea...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > > Glad you are taking this in jest.
>
> > > Pt
>
> > Oh! You meant your comments as a JOKE! Well, then... never mind!
>
> > Corey
>
> I never want to hurt anyones feelings unless they deserve it.
>
> Pt
I have no idea what you mean by this statement. Do you or do you not
think bands should rehearse a minimum of 6 months before they gig out?
Corey
On May 1, 1:35 pm, Pt <pea...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> On May 1, 1:14 pm, coreybenson <coreyben...@gmail,com > wrote:
>
> > On May 1, 12:48 pm, Pt <pea...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > > Glad you are taking this in jest.
>
> > > Pt
>
> > Oh! You meant your comments as a JOKE! Well, then... never mind!
>
> > Corey
>
> I never want to hurt anyones feelings unless they deserve it.
>
> Pt
I have no idea what you mean by this statement. Do you or do you not
think bands should rehearse a minimum of 6 months before they gig out?
Corey
Re: Jamming vs Working
A-fucking-men.
"Jim Carr" <newsgroups@azwebpages,com > wrote in message
news:d25Sj.3576$iu3.778@newsfe11.phx...
> This was in a local Craigslist ad. I thought it was pretty spot-on. It
> kinda ties into an e-mail discussion I had recently with a guy who
> wanted a talented bass player in his 30s or older who had cover band
> experience to play in his '70s classic rock band. So far so good except
> that you had to be willing to practice two times per week.
>
> I tried to explain to him that somebody with those qualifications
> doesn't need to practice 2X per week. I don't think he ever got it.
>
> Anyway, here's the post.
>
> Looking To Work v.s. Looking To Jam
>
> This is an important distinction, and seems to be confused very often
> here in the Valley by some of the local musicians.
>
> Looking To Jam - I need to rehearse for the next three to six months to
> gain the skills I need to play the material.
>
> Looking To Work - Audition me, if we're compatible then give me your set
> lists, a couple weeks to memorize them and one or two rehearsals, and
> then let's start playing jobs.
>
> Looking To Jam - I don't want to drive outside of my local community to
> meet anyone more than 20 minutes distance by car, unless it's to go
> watch a band.
>
> Looking To Work - I realize that driving is a requirement of being in a
> band, I'll invest in the fuel cost to make a couple rehearsals and
> recoup it when I show up on the gigs in the areas we agreed to work at.
>
> Looking To Jam - I don't want to play unless we do my song list.
>
> Looking To Work - unless there's a salary being paid or an established
> name/existing band being promoted, we'll compromise in choosing the
> songs that suit the lead singer(s) and the venue(s).
>
> Looking To Jam - I run the same ad year after year, misusing all the
> jobbing musician buzzwords, making all the same mistakes in the process
> and failing to improve my craft while I'm at it.
>
> Looking To Work - (looks up) try being a roadie for a local working
> band, get used to seeing how it's done right and then approach the idea
> again.
>
> There's nothing wrong with just getting together to jam for fun. It
> becomes wrong when you present yourself as someone who's "looking to
> work" in order to attract jobbing musicians for your rehearsal room band.
>
>
> --
> Write a wise saying and your name will live forever.
> - Anonymous
A-fucking-men.
"Jim Carr" <newsgroups@azwebpages,com > wrote in message
news:d25Sj.3576$iu3.778@newsfe11.phx...
> This was in a local Craigslist ad. I thought it was pretty spot-on. It
> kinda ties into an e-mail discussion I had recently with a guy who
> wanted a talented bass player in his 30s or older who had cover band
> experience to play in his '70s classic rock band. So far so good except
> that you had to be willing to practice two times per week.
>
> I tried to explain to him that somebody with those qualifications
> doesn't need to practice 2X per week. I don't think he ever got it.
>
> Anyway, here's the post.
>
> Looking To Work v.s. Looking To Jam
>
> This is an important distinction, and seems to be confused very often
> here in the Valley by some of the local musicians.
>
> Looking To Jam - I need to rehearse for the next three to six months to
> gain the skills I need to play the material.
>
> Looking To Work - Audition me, if we're compatible then give me your set
> lists, a couple weeks to memorize them and one or two rehearsals, and
> then let's start playing jobs.
>
> Looking To Jam - I don't want to drive outside of my local community to
> meet anyone more than 20 minutes distance by car, unless it's to go
> watch a band.
>
> Looking To Work - I realize that driving is a requirement of being in a
> band, I'll invest in the fuel cost to make a couple rehearsals and
> recoup it when I show up on the gigs in the areas we agreed to work at.
>
> Looking To Jam - I don't want to play unless we do my song list.
>
> Looking To Work - unless there's a salary being paid or an established
> name/existing band being promoted, we'll compromise in choosing the
> songs that suit the lead singer(s) and the venue(s).
>
> Looking To Jam - I run the same ad year after year, misusing all the
> jobbing musician buzzwords, making all the same mistakes in the process
> and failing to improve my craft while I'm at it.
>
> Looking To Work - (looks up) try being a roadie for a local working
> band, get used to seeing how it's done right and then approach the idea
> again.
>
> There's nothing wrong with just getting together to jam for fun. It
> becomes wrong when you present yourself as someone who's "looking to
> work" in order to attract jobbing musicians for your rehearsal room band.
>
>
> --
> Write a wise saying and your name will live forever.
> - Anonymous
Re: Jamming vs Working
Back in the 60's and 70's I played in top 40 bands.
We rehearsed 3 times a week and learned new songs every week.
With the exception of the disco era we played the same songs for the
next 25 years.
Around 2000 modern country bands started taking over the top 40.
Rock had turned to metal and hip hop leaving country pop the rock
music of choice.
And this music is not simple 4 to the bar or 12 bar blues tunes.
I can't fathom a new band getting out there and playing this stuff
without extensive rehearsing.
Other than fusion this is the most difficult music I have ever had to
learn.
It is all very interactive and everyone in the band must depend on
everyone else in the band.
Like many people here I could play bass to Mustang Sally, Roadhouse
Blues, Can't you see, Sweet Home Alabama and countless other old rock
songs that have been played to death without much thought or
rehearsing.
If that's what I gotta do to play out I'd rather stay home.
Did that, been there, move on.
I love to jam and I have been jamming most of my life but there is a
time and place for everything.
Pt
Back in the 60's and 70's I played in top 40 bands.
We rehearsed 3 times a week and learned new songs every week.
With the exception of the disco era we played the same songs for the
next 25 years.
Around 2000 modern country bands started taking over the top 40.
Rock had turned to metal and hip hop leaving country pop the rock
music of choice.
And this music is not simple 4 to the bar or 12 bar blues tunes.
I can't fathom a new band getting out there and playing this stuff
without extensive rehearsing.
Other than fusion this is the most difficult music I have ever had to
learn.
It is all very interactive and everyone in the band must depend on
everyone else in the band.
Like many people here I could play bass to Mustang Sally, Roadhouse
Blues, Can't you see, Sweet Home Alabama and countless other old rock
songs that have been played to death without much thought or
rehearsing.
If that's what I gotta do to play out I'd rather stay home.
Did that, been there, move on.
I love to jam and I have been jamming most of my life but there is a
time and place for everything.
Pt
Re: Jamming vs Working
Singer/songwriter/guitarist I've worked with for years booked a
concert in California (we're east coasters). For whatever reason, keys
and drums couldn't make the gig. She hired one of each, sent them her
CDs and a song list for the gig, booked 4 hours in a NYC rehearsal
studio. They did their homework, we met to fine tune some stuff (4
hours only), they did a bit more homework on their own, we flew out
and knocked it out, every note as it should be, audienced LOVED it, we
had a great time, got a hefty check, flew home happy.
I think it boils down to a combination of ability, diligence
(homework), experience and focus. If you have all four, you have it
all, and at times, 4 hours is enough rehearsal. Of course, those
rehearsals must be well run. Nothing tries my patience more than
unfocused "we've been playing for fifteen minutes, let's open some
wine" crap (I like my wine, btw), or endless solos. Just not
necessary. And the fact that it's a job does not in any way diminish
the joy of making my living with my instrument. In fact, working with
organized pros is one of the benefits, and I'm in heaven when I do. (I
work with the amateurs, too, and it can - not always - suck the
enthusiasm right out of me.)
One other "two cents": I heard a Billy Cobham concert some years ago.
Lee Sklar on bass, forgot the other names (blinded by Sklar's
brilliance). Everyone used a music stand. Spoke with Lee for a long
time after the gig. Their schedule was 4 days of rehearsal, then out
on tour. This was VERY difficult, high energy jazz. They were
brilliant, and I didn't give a moment of thought to the music stands,
except perhaps to think, "He's READING that?". (A side to Sklar I
didn't know he had. He was phenomenal. Euphonic Audio rig, before
anyone even asks.)
BW
Singer/songwriter/guitarist I've worked with for years booked a
concert in California (we're east coasters). For whatever reason, keys
and drums couldn't make the gig. She hired one of each, sent them her
CDs and a song list for the gig, booked 4 hours in a NYC rehearsal
studio. They did their homework, we met to fine tune some stuff (4
hours only), they did a bit more homework on their own, we flew out
and knocked it out, every note as it should be, audienced LOVED it, we
had a great time, got a hefty check, flew home happy.
I think it boils down to a combination of ability, diligence
(homework), experience and focus. If you have all four, you have it
all, and at times, 4 hours is enough rehearsal. Of course, those
rehearsals must be well run. Nothing tries my patience more than
unfocused "we've been playing for fifteen minutes, let's open some
wine" crap (I like my wine, btw), or endless solos. Just not
necessary. And the fact that it's a job does not in any way diminish
the joy of making my living with my instrument. In fact, working with
organized pros is one of the benefits, and I'm in heaven when I do. (I
work with the amateurs, too, and it can - not always - suck the
enthusiasm right out of me.)
One other "two cents": I heard a Billy Cobham concert some years ago.
Lee Sklar on bass, forgot the other names (blinded by Sklar's
brilliance). Everyone used a music stand. Spoke with Lee for a long
time after the gig. Their schedule was 4 days of rehearsal, then out
on tour. This was VERY difficult, high energy jazz. They were
brilliant, and I didn't give a moment of thought to the music stands,
except perhaps to think, "He's READING that?". (A side to Sklar I
didn't know he had. He was phenomenal. Euphonic Audio rig, before
anyone even asks.)
BW
Re: Jamming vs Working
"BW" <barrybassist@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:425028b7-b46d-4486-bbf6-3789c098594c@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups,com ...
> Singer/songwriter/guitarist I've worked with for years
> booked a
> concert in California (we're east coasters). For whatever
> reason, keys
> and drums couldn't make the gig. She hired one of each, sent
> them her
> CDs and a song list for the gig, booked 4 hours in a NYC
> rehearsal
> studio. They did their homework, we met to fine tune some
> stuff (4
> hours only), they did a bit more homework on their own, we
> flew out
> and knocked it out, every note as it should be, audienced
> LOVED it, we
> had a great time, got a hefty check, flew home happy.
> BW
This is a great start. A CD contains a lot of information
that most non rehursers have to figure out on the fly at their
gig.
Like what key the song is in for starters. How many times do
you get out there and somebody wants to do Mustang Sally in
F#. Yeah easy but wouldn't you like to know that ahead of
time.
Then how about how knowing how the song will really go when
you play it. The arrangement so to speak is on that CD and it
takes a lot of the guess work out to know that the solo goes
over the verse and the chorus or something like that. And
beginnings and endings are so much easier when you know what
to play ahead of time. A chart with the arrangement would be
nicer but with the CD you can make a chart in half hour.
Now some of you may be able to hear the CD in the car on the
way to your first gig and fool everyone into thinking you were
a founding member of the band but me ..............duh I need
some help. This chick understood that and gave the two fill in
members a clue before their 4 hour dress rehearsal.
Just the other day I was learning the Cream version of
"outside woman blues". The version I was practicing was from
Disrelie Gears and is not the same as the live cream version
the guitar player was practicing. Having that worked out prior
would have eliminated the mix up. I made charts of both to
eliminate my confusion and the next time we played we were
both on the same page.
Also the Beatles I'm only sleeping. I was practicing from
Revolver. That song was slowed down on the album so they could
sing and that puts it in a weird key that the guitar players
hate. They change it to the key that it is easier to make the
chords in, probably the way Lennon and Mc Cartney played it in
the studio before the tape was slowed. Wouldn't it be nice to
know that before you get on stage at the show?
I auditioned for a guy who gave me his CD and charts of 13 of
his original songs. I had one week to get 13 original songs
down and try out. There was no confusion there. This guy
wanted to compress time and get to the best guy for his band
in a hurry. Totally pro. No I am not his new bass player.
I think other than the bass and drums , who hold the songs
together from beginning to end, other players can fake it, but
if the bass and drums get off, or go someplace different
arrangement wise, most people know something is rotten when
they hear it. Unless these guys are mind readers there has to
be some communication in advance and some rehearsal in
advance, either together or alone, of exactly what will be
played or the result at best will be a passable mess.
peace
dawg
"BW" <barrybassist@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:425028b7-b46d-4486-bbf6-3789c098594c@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups,com ...
> Singer/songwriter/guitarist I've worked with for years
> booked a
> concert in California (we're east coasters). For whatever
> reason, keys
> and drums couldn't make the gig. She hired one of each, sent
> them her
> CDs and a song list for the gig, booked 4 hours in a NYC
> rehearsal
> studio. They did their homework, we met to fine tune some
> stuff (4
> hours only), they did a bit more homework on their own, we
> flew out
> and knocked it out, every note as it should be, audienced
> LOVED it, we
> had a great time, got a hefty check, flew home happy.
> BW
This is a great start. A CD contains a lot of information
that most non rehursers have to figure out on the fly at their
gig.
Like what key the song is in for starters. How many times do
you get out there and somebody wants to do Mustang Sally in
F#. Yeah easy but wouldn't you like to know that ahead of
time.
Then how about how knowing how the song will really go when
you play it. The arrangement so to speak is on that CD and it
takes a lot of the guess work out to know that the solo goes
over the verse and the chorus or something like that. And
beginnings and endings are so much easier when you know what
to play ahead of time. A chart with the arrangement would be
nicer but with the CD you can make a chart in half hour.
Now some of you may be able to hear the CD in the car on the
way to your first gig and fool everyone into thinking you were
a founding member of the band but me ..............duh I need
some help. This chick understood that and gave the two fill in
members a clue before their 4 hour dress rehearsal.
Just the other day I was learning the Cream version of
"outside woman blues". The version I was practicing was from
Disrelie Gears and is not the same as the live cream version
the guitar player was practicing. Having that worked out prior
would have eliminated the mix up. I made charts of both to
eliminate my confusion and the next time we played we were
both on the same page.
Also the Beatles I'm only sleeping. I was practicing from
Revolver. That song was slowed down on the album so they could
sing and that puts it in a weird key that the guitar players
hate. They change it to the key that it is easier to make the
chords in, probably the way Lennon and Mc Cartney played it in
the studio before the tape was slowed. Wouldn't it be nice to
know that before you get on stage at the show?
I auditioned for a guy who gave me his CD and charts of 13 of
his original songs. I had one week to get 13 original songs
down and try out. There was no confusion there. This guy
wanted to compress time and get to the best guy for his band
in a hurry. Totally pro. No I am not his new bass player.
I think other than the bass and drums , who hold the songs
together from beginning to end, other players can fake it, but
if the bass and drums get off, or go someplace different
arrangement wise, most people know something is rotten when
they hear it. Unless these guys are mind readers there has to
be some communication in advance and some rehearsal in
advance, either together or alone, of exactly what will be
played or the result at best will be a passable mess.
peace
dawg
Re: Jamming vs Working
Pt wrote:
> Back in the 60's and 70's I played in top 40 bands.
> We rehearsed 3 times a week and learned new songs every week.
> With the exception of the disco era we played the same songs for the
> next 25 years.
> Around 2000 modern country bands started taking over the top 40.
> Rock had turned to metal and hip hop leaving country pop the rock
> music of choice.
> And this music is not simple 4 to the bar or 12 bar blues tunes.
> I can't fathom a new band getting out there and playing this stuff
> without extensive rehearsing.
I did it in 2006 with three rehearsals. Er, at least the
eight or nine Toby Keith, Keith Urban, Josh Turner, yadda songs were
that way. I think we did "Memories of You" in Bb, or
Ab. Neat.
The drummer never really did figure all the changes out, after
gigging for nearly a year....
> Other than fusion this is the most difficult music I have ever had to
> learn.
This is true. Anybody thinks Toby Keith is a dumb Okie needs to
chart out "Beer For My Horses." All of it.
> It is all very interactive and everyone in the band must depend on
> everyone else in the band.
> Like many people here I could play bass to Mustang Sally, Roadhouse
> Blues, Can't you see, Sweet Home Alabama and countless other old rock
> songs that have been played to death without much thought or
> rehearsing.
> If that's what I gotta do to play out I'd rather stay home.
We play the best Mustang Sally you ever heard. True story - until
the 2006 band, I had never played that song before.
> Did that, been there, move on.
> I love to jam and I have been jamming most of my life but there is a
> time and place for everything.
>
> Pt
>
>
Jamming is the mothers milk of band writing, as opposed to
folk song writing. Wish I could do jam-writing now...
--
Les Cargill
Pt wrote:
> Back in the 60's and 70's I played in top 40 bands.
> We rehearsed 3 times a week and learned new songs every week.
> With the exception of the disco era we played the same songs for the
> next 25 years.
> Around 2000 modern country bands started taking over the top 40.
> Rock had turned to metal and hip hop leaving country pop the rock
> music of choice.
> And this music is not simple 4 to the bar or 12 bar blues tunes.
> I can't fathom a new band getting out there and playing this stuff
> without extensive rehearsing.
I did it in 2006 with three rehearsals. Er, at least the
eight or nine Toby Keith, Keith Urban, Josh Turner, yadda songs were
that way. I think we did "Memories of You" in Bb, or
Ab. Neat.
The drummer never really did figure all the changes out, after
gigging for nearly a year....
> Other than fusion this is the most difficult music I have ever had to
> learn.
This is true. Anybody thinks Toby Keith is a dumb Okie needs to
chart out "Beer For My Horses." All of it.
> It is all very interactive and everyone in the band must depend on
> everyone else in the band.
> Like many people here I could play bass to Mustang Sally, Roadhouse
> Blues, Can't you see, Sweet Home Alabama and countless other old rock
> songs that have been played to death without much thought or
> rehearsing.
> If that's what I gotta do to play out I'd rather stay home.
We play the best Mustang Sally you ever heard. True story - until
the 2006 band, I had never played that song before.
> Did that, been there, move on.
> I love to jam and I have been jamming most of my life but there is a
> time and place for everything.
>
> Pt
>
>
Jamming is the mothers milk of band writing, as opposed to
folk song writing. Wish I could do jam-writing now...
--
Les Cargill
Re: Jamming vs Working
On May 2, 7:38 pm, Les Cargill <lcarg...@cfl.rr,com > wrote:
> Jamming is the mothers milk of band writing, as opposed to
> folk song writing. Wish I could do jam-writing now...
>
> --
> Les Cargill
Les.
I have been reading and exchanging posts with you for a good ten years
now (I think).
I always appreciate what you have to say from bass to Fostex VF16.
Pt
On May 2, 7:38 pm, Les Cargill <lcarg...@cfl.rr,com > wrote:
> Jamming is the mothers milk of band writing, as opposed to
> folk song writing. Wish I could do jam-writing now...
>
> --
> Les Cargill
Les.
I have been reading and exchanging posts with you for a good ten years
now (I think).
I always appreciate what you have to say from bass to Fostex VF16.
Pt
Re: Jamming vs Working
Pt wrote:
> On May 2, 7:38 pm, Les Cargill <lcarg...@cfl.rr,com > wrote:
>
>> Jamming is the mothers milk of band writing, as opposed to
>> folk song writing. Wish I could do jam-writing now...
>>
>> --
>> Les Cargill
>
>
> Les.
> I have been reading and exchanging posts with you for a good ten years
> now (I think).
> I always appreciate what you have to say from bass to Fostex VF16.
>
> Pt
Of all the ways I have found to waste time, this is one of 'em.
--
Les Cargill
Pt wrote:
> On May 2, 7:38 pm, Les Cargill <lcarg...@cfl.rr,com > wrote:
>
>> Jamming is the mothers milk of band writing, as opposed to
>> folk song writing. Wish I could do jam-writing now...
>>
>> --
>> Les Cargill
>
>
> Les.
> I have been reading and exchanging posts with you for a good ten years
> now (I think).
> I always appreciate what you have to say from bass to Fostex VF16.
>
> Pt
Of all the ways I have found to waste time, this is one of 'em.
--
Les Cargill
Re: Jamming vs Working
"Pt" <peatea@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:fcda329a-0935-4361-a653-3da0dfe0182c@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
On May 2, 7:38 pm, Les Cargill <lcarg...@cfl.rr,com > wrote:
> Jamming is the mothers milk of band writing, as opposed to
> folk song writing. Wish I could do jam-writing now...
>
> --
> Les Cargill
Les.
I have been reading and exchanging posts with you for a good
ten years
now (I think).
I always appreciate what you have to say from bass to Fostex
VF16.
Pt
I have a VF16.
peace
dawg
"Pt" <peatea@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:fcda329a-0935-4361-a653-3da0dfe0182c@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
On May 2, 7:38 pm, Les Cargill <lcarg...@cfl.rr,com > wrote:
> Jamming is the mothers milk of band writing, as opposed to
> folk song writing. Wish I could do jam-writing now...
>
> --
> Les Cargill
Les.
I have been reading and exchanging posts with you for a good
ten years
now (I think).
I always appreciate what you have to say from bass to Fostex
VF16.
Pt
I have a VF16.
peace
dawg
Re: Jamming vs Working
On May 3, 11:52 am, "We Can Do It" <Ca...@motivation,com >
> I have a VF16.
>
> peace
> dawg
I recently picked up a VF 160 but I don't know how to use it yet.
Pt
On May 3, 11:52 am, "We Can Do It" <Ca...@motivation,com >
> I have a VF16.
>
> peace
> dawg
I recently picked up a VF 160 but I don't know how to use it yet.
Pt
Re: Jamming vs Working
Mine has been sitting for a year or two. Moved to the computer
and never went back. Could be handy to record 16 tracks live
some day though. My new love is the Zoom H2.
"Pt" <peatea@yahoo,com > wrote in message
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On May 3, 11:52 am, "We Can Do It" <Ca...@motivation,com >
> I have a VF16.
>
> peace
> dawg
I recently picked up a VF 160 but I don't know how to use it
yet.
Pt
Mine has been sitting for a year or two. Moved to the computer
and never went back. Could be handy to record 16 tracks live
on location some day though. My new love is the Zoom H2. Great
for recording practice and just found out yesterday that it
works great to plug into the phono stage at a friends to rip
his albums. All for about $230 with a 4gig memory card. Fits
in my pocket.
I paid $900 for my Fozzie in 2001. Then 250 more for the VC-8
to get 16 tracks at once, then about a hundred for a used zip
drive and some disks. All obsolete and worth about $230 on
Ebay.
peace
dawg
Mine has been sitting for a year or two. Moved to the computer
and never went back. Could be handy to record 16 tracks live
some day though. My new love is the Zoom H2.
"Pt" <peatea@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:bd62f5a0-0c2b-4801-a430-803989dbadff@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
On May 3, 11:52 am, "We Can Do It" <Ca...@motivation,com >
> I have a VF16.
>
> peace
> dawg
I recently picked up a VF 160 but I don't know how to use it
yet.
Pt
Mine has been sitting for a year or two. Moved to the computer
and never went back. Could be handy to record 16 tracks live
on location some day though. My new love is the Zoom H2. Great
for recording practice and just found out yesterday that it
works great to plug into the phono stage at a friends to rip
his albums. All for about $230 with a 4gig memory card. Fits
in my pocket.
I paid $900 for my Fozzie in 2001. Then 250 more for the VC-8
to get 16 tracks at once, then about a hundred for a used zip
drive and some disks. All obsolete and worth about $230 on
Ebay.
peace
dawg
