More American Idol

Re: More American Idol

BW wrote:
> On May 16, 1:50 pm, Jim Carr <newsgro...@azwebpages,com > wrote:
>> Brian Running wrote:
>>> My youngest son went on a school field trip a couple of days ago. They
>>> were out in the woods, and apparently walked through a new hatch of wood
>>> ticks. So, the teacher sent home a note yesterday, titled "Tic Alert!"
>>> and warning us that our kids might have come home with some tics. For
>>> cryin' out loud...
>> If my kid gets a teacher like that, I'm gonna tell him to put a tac on
>> her chair.
>>
>> --
>> Write a wise saying and your name will live forever.
>> - Anonymous
>
>
> There's something I don't get here. When you go out in the woods, you
> encounter "things". Some of those are almost impossible to avoid, like
> tics. So the choice becomes stay in the classroom and learn about
> nature from books and movies, or go out into nature and learn about
> nature from nature. I choose the latter, but maybe that's just me, a
> serious nature lover. Seems to me the teacher did exactly the right
> thing in alerting the parents.
>
> Aside: When my wife was a teenager, she went to an outdoor-oriented
> summer camp, more outdoorsy than most. First week was spent
> backpacking. When she told her aunt (think pampered, obnoxiously
> wealthy) about her experience, the aunt said, "Can't you find a camp
> with inside bathrooms?". Missed the point entirely.
>
> Anyway, I don't see the issue with encountering bugs in the outdoors.
> It happens.

Tic - a sudden, spasmodic, painless, involuntary muscular contraction,
as of the face.

Tick - any of numerous bloodsucking arachnids of the order Acarina,
including the families Ixodidae and Argasidae, somewhat larger than the
related mites and having a barbed proboscis for attachment to the skin
of warm-blooded vertebrates: some ticks are vectors of disease.

Tack - a short, sharp-pointed nail, usually with a flat, broad head.

Tac - the second half of a name of a popular breath mint.

Tic Tac - See http :// www .tictacusa,com /

Teacher - somebody we would expect to know all this.


--
Write a wise saying and your name will live forever.
- Anonymous

Re: More American Idol

On Sat, 17 May 2008 14:39:44 -0700, Jim Carr
<newsgroups@azwebpages,com > wrote:


>
>Tic - a sudden, spasmodic, painless, involuntary muscular contraction,
>as of the face.
>
>Tick - any of numerous bloodsucking arachnids of the order Acarina,
>including the families Ixodidae and Argasidae, somewhat larger than the
>related mites and having a barbed proboscis for attachment to the skin
>of warm-blooded vertebrates: some ticks are vectors of disease.
>
>Tack - a short, sharp-pointed nail, usually with a flat, broad head.
>
>Tac - the second half of a name of a popular breath mint.
>
>Tic Tac - See http :// www .tictacusa,com /
>
>Teacher - somebody we would expect to know all this.

THANK you, Jim! :-D This is almost as bad as 'then' vs. 'than'.

Re: More American Idol


"Charlie S." <w5cds (at) arrl (dot) net> wrote in message
news:p51v245gslot17fjq2qrolbiqrjgs81dsr@4ax,com ...
> On Sat, 17 May 2008 14:39:44 -0700, Jim Carr
> <newsgroups@azwebpages,com > wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Tic - a sudden, spasmodic, painless, involuntary muscular contraction,
>>as of the face.
>>
>>Tick - any of numerous bloodsucking arachnids of the order Acarina,
>>including the families Ixodidae and Argasidae, somewhat larger than the
>>related mites and having a barbed proboscis for attachment to the skin
>>of warm-blooded vertebrates: some ticks are vectors of disease.
>>
>>Tack - a short, sharp-pointed nail, usually with a flat, broad head.
>>
>>Tac - the second half of a name of a popular breath mint.
>>
>>Tic Tac - See http :// www .tictacusa,com /
>>
>>Teacher - somebody we would expect to know all this.
>
> THANK you, Jim! :-D This is almost as bad as 'then' vs. 'than'.
>

That may well be.... but I must admit -- I expect a teacher to know the
difference between 'tic' and 'tick'... and 'then' and 'than'... and
'further' and 'farther', for that matter. Likewise, I'd expect them to not
write 'alright' (all right) and 'alot' (a lot).

But, hey! That's just me... :-)

Re: More American Idol

Lane Baldwin wrote:

> That may well be.... but I must admit -- I expect a teacher to know the
> difference between 'tic' and 'tick'... and 'then' and 'than'... and
> 'further' and 'farther', for that matter. Likewise, I'd expect them to not
> write 'alright' (all right) and 'alot' (a lot).
>
> But, hey! That's just me... :-)

Alot and alright are two different beasts. Alot is not recognized by
dictionaries as a word yet, and there's not much case to be made for
doing so.

Alright *has* been recognized by some dictionaries. Its usage is
generally confined to informal writing rather than formal, edited
writing. However, a case can be made for its acceptance. Already (hint)
I can imagine you wondering what words would make "alright" altogether
acceptable, but I'm not gonna help you. I hate to leave you in an
almighty fix, but such is how it is sometimes when discussing language.

:-)

--
Write a wise saying and your name will live forever.
- Anonymous

Re: More American Idol

"Jim Carr" <newsgroups@azwebpages,com > wrote in message
news:YjNXj.8249$GV3.8049@newsfe08.phx...
> Lane Baldwin wrote:
>
>> That may well be.... but I must admit -- I expect a teacher to know the
>> difference between 'tic' and 'tick'... and 'then' and 'than'... and
>> 'further' and 'farther', for that matter. Likewise, I'd expect them to
>> not write 'alright' (all right) and 'alot' (a lot).
>>
>> But, hey! That's just me... :-)
>
> Alot and alright are two different beasts. Alot is not recognized by
> dictionaries as a word yet, and there's not much case to be made for doing
> so.
>
> Alright *has* been recognized by some dictionaries. Its usage is generally
> confined to informal writing rather than formal, edited writing. However,
> a case can be made for its acceptance. Already (hint) I can imagine you
> wondering what words would make "alright" altogether acceptable, but I'm
> not gonna help you. I hate to leave you in an almighty fix, but such is
> how it is sometimes when discussing language.
>
> :-)
>
> --
> Write a wise saying and your name will live forever.
> - Anonymous

Just stop using the word "and" in numbers and I'll be happy. "One hundred
and seventeen" is wrong. "Seven dollars and sixteen cents" is correct. And
indicates a change of units of measure.

As is "Four score and seven years ago..."

--
Nick

Re: More American Idol

> Just stop using the word "and" in numbers and I'll be happy. "One
> hundred and seventeen" is wrong. "Seven dollars and sixteen cents" is
> correct. And indicates a change of units of measure.
Both of those would in fact be incorrect in British English.

Re: More American Idol

Stephen Malbon wrote:
>> Just stop using the word "and" in numbers and I'll be happy. "One
>> hundred and seventeen" is wrong. "Seven dollars and sixteen cents" is
>> correct. And indicates a change of units of measure.
> Both of those would in fact be incorrect in British English.
Let me clarify that, I meant that dropping the "and" from numbers would
incorrect in British English, hence "ninety eight, ninety nine, one
hundred, one hundred and one, one hundred and two" and so on. Likewise
ifI went into a shop to purchase and item costing £2.84, at the checkout
I would be asked for "two pounds eighty four" and if I offered a £10
note I would get back "your receipt and seven pounds sixteen change". If
I was really unlucky I might also get a parting shot of "have a nice
day". Which always sounds genuine when I hear in Best Buy or Circuit
City when I'm in Florida but which really grates when I'm in
Stoke-on-Trent :)

Re: More American Idol


"Jim Carr" <newsgroups@azwebpages,com > wrote in message
news:YjNXj.8249$GV3.8049@newsfe08.phx...
> Lane Baldwin wrote:
>
>> That may well be.... but I must admit -- I expect a teacher to know the
>> difference between 'tic' and 'tick'... and 'then' and 'than'... and
>> 'further' and 'farther', for that matter. Likewise, I'd expect them to
>> not write 'alright' (all right) and 'alot' (a lot).
>>
>> But, hey! That's just me... :-)
>
> Alot and alright are two different beasts. Alot is not recognized by
> dictionaries as a word yet, and there's not much case to be made for doing
> so.
>
> Alright *has* been recognized by some dictionaries. Its usage is generally
> confined to informal writing rather than formal, edited writing. However,
> a case can be made for its acceptance. Already (hint) I can imagine you
> wondering what words would make "alright" altogether acceptable, but I'm
> not gonna help you. I hate to leave you in an almighty fix, but such is
> how it is sometimes when discussing language.
>
> :-)
>

Uhm...what?

Re: More American Idol

Lane Baldwin wrote:
> "Jim Carr" <newsgroups@azwebpages,com > wrote in message
> news:YjNXj.8249$GV3.8049@newsfe08.phx...
>> Lane Baldwin wrote:
>>
>>> That may well be.... but I must admit -- I expect a teacher to know the
>>> difference between 'tic' and 'tick'... and 'then' and 'than'... and
>>> 'further' and 'farther', for that matter. Likewise, I'd expect them to
>>> not write 'alright' (all right) and 'alot' (a lot).
>>>
>>> But, hey! That's just me... :-)
>> Alot and alright are two different beasts. Alot is not recognized by
>> dictionaries as a word yet, and there's not much case to be made for doing
>> so.
>>
>> Alright *has* been recognized by some dictionaries. Its usage is generally
>> confined to informal writing rather than formal, edited writing. However,
>> a case can be made for its acceptance. Already (hint) I can imagine you
>> wondering what words would make "alright" altogether acceptable, but I'm
>> not gonna help you. I hate to leave you in an almighty fix, but such is
>> how it is sometimes when discussing language.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>
> Uhm...what?

Enough already!

Re: More American Idol

On May 16, 11:02 am, Brian Running <brunn...@XXameritechXX,net > wrote:
>  It's not the kids' fault, (snip)

no, it's the parents' fault.

> human nature doesn't
> change, they will respond to their teachers just the way we did 30 years
> ago.  What changes is the prevailing attitude of the teachers, and the
> current fads in education techniques.  They get looser, less disciplined
> and less demanding all the time.  Standards continually decline.  I
> worry about where the next generation of teachers is going to come from,
> and how they will be able to teach anything at all.  There's a total
> lack of discipline.

Teachers in most places are not allowed to discipline. Meaning, no
physical contact. That's a choice the society seems to have made and
here we are. I'm HS class of '67, right on the cusp of the change.
Don't you dare offend my child! And so forth-- the devaluing of
teachers and teaching, not wanting to pay taxes to support good public
schools, due to "social integration", on and on.

Music programs pander to adults, parents, too. So, you see the cheap,
trashy whitebread crap culture that's on TV.

Getting what we deserve, except that my kids are being dragged into
the swirl, too. That's what pisses me off.

I have a friend who had exposure to a really good public school system
music education. I've always envied him. That's why I spent the money
and became a Suzuki parent (heavy PITA aspects to that lifestyle), so
my kid could play, and get the basics incl. sightsinging, knowing her
key sigs, know some repetoire, be musically literate.

Instead of DUH let's go to Target and buy some crap...

Thanks, feel better. Kill your TV. --D-y

Re: More American Idol

On May 15, 4:10 pm, Brian Running <brunn...@XXameritechXX,net > wrote:
> > Did the audience like it?
>
> Of course! I've got to believe that I was not the only one in the
> audience shaking his head about it, though.

about what?
what is this thing called music that we wish to cling to
as if music were something akin to the smell of your moms fresh baked
cookies
and if your mom never baked cookies
much more the question
my question has less to do with pissing on sentiment than it has to do
with which pissing action causes the pissed off reaction
and the question really narrows down to what are the pissed off people
really pissed off about
seems like a bunch of uck stuck to a bunch of yuk that don't know
where the shit came from.
read my book......

Re: More American Idol

Brian Running wrote:
> Last night, I had a close encounter with what American Idol is doing to
> music, at a high-school choir concert. There were several different
> choirs.
>
> One choir did an old spiritual, and the soloist stepped right up to the
> mike and proceeded to suck the heart and soul right out of it with a
> typical American-Idol solo, full of the chirpy,
> slide-into-every-note-so-I-don't-have-to-hit-a-precise-pitch, yodeling
> and howling that passes as singing these days in the minds of AI's
> audience. The "Vocal Jazz" group did three pure-pop-dreck tunes with a
> series of solos that Simon would have torn to pieces, and then finished
> with a Broadway-show-tune-style rendition of "Mack the Knife." But not
> a single note of jazz, none at all. It was painful.
>
> When they stuck to traditional choral music, where there was no
> temptation to go pop, they were fantastic. But you give a young singer
> the opportunity to solo these days, and you're going to hear the same
> awful caterwauling you can hear any night on American Idol. It's a sad
> thing.

In... 1994, I attended a ... "show" at my daughter's school
system. Three "bird-shredders", doing melismatic Mariah Carey
rot *BADLY*. That was.... wait, I can do this... fif....no ..
six... no ... fourteen years ago and there was no American Idol.

I can prove it. We have a tape. You know... VHS, like in the
olden days?

besides everybody knows that MAD magazine and Marvel comics
were responsible to for the decline of Western Kivi...Chiva... Civlization.

Like *duh* (pops gum).

http :// www .imdb,com /title/tt0387808/

--
Les Cargill