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Gripe, Gripe, Gripe
Re: Gripe, Gripe, Gripe
"andrew queisser" <andrew.queisser@hp,com > wrote in
news:ful2em$98r$1@usenet01.boi.hp,com :
>
> "Brian Running" <brunning@XXameritechXX,net > wrote in message
> news:7ypNj.4324$iK6.975@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc,com ...
>>
>> You give me one good reason why the following system can't be bought
>> at any decent music store, for under $500:
>>
>> A digital snake, with a 24-input box on stage with A/D converter,
>> going to a 24-channel digital mixer which has at least one parallel
>> 24-channel digital output to go directly to a laptop computer with
>> recording software which accepts 24 simultaneous inputs, and the
>> mixer having a digital return to a D/A converter in the stage box.
>> All going through CAT5, USB or Firewire cables. Not a single XLR
>> cable anywhere, except from on-stage mikes to the snake box.
>> Everything in digital domain. All processing and effects in the
>> mixer. Everything except the laptop computer itself included for
>> under $500 -- or less.
>
> Things are heading that way (Presonus, etc.) but there are a few
> things to keep in mind:
>
> - Digital is cheap and getting cheaper, analog is hard and not getting
> cheaper. You still need good analog front ends to feed the D/A
> converters. - Good power supplies for the analog part aren't cheap
> either
We're talking a cheap system here - the analog front end for this thing
(and power supplies) shouldn't cost anymore than they do on current cheap
desks like Mackie/Behringer.
> - Same for cases, knobs, sliders, buttons
I'd probably go with a standard keyboard/mouse interface and do
everything with screen real estate. Possibly a ATM style membrane keypad
and screen real estate scheme.
> - Cabling and connectors are expensive, especially if they are to take
> any kind of abuse. Firewire and USB 2.0 has plenty of bandwidth for
> digital audio but you still need beefy cables to hook stuff together.
CAT5.
>
> So, even though you could buy a bunch of components from DigiKey or
> whatever and put together a system like you describe I'm not really
> sure it's what the market wants yet.
...and THAT is where you get bit.
--
Aaron
"andrew queisser" <andrew.queisser@hp,com > wrote in
news:ful2em$98r$1@usenet01.boi.hp,com :
>
> "Brian Running" <brunning@XXameritechXX,net > wrote in message
> news:7ypNj.4324$iK6.975@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc,com ...
>>
>> You give me one good reason why the following system can't be bought
>> at any decent music store, for under $500:
>>
>> A digital snake, with a 24-input box on stage with A/D converter,
>> going to a 24-channel digital mixer which has at least one parallel
>> 24-channel digital output to go directly to a laptop computer with
>> recording software which accepts 24 simultaneous inputs, and the
>> mixer having a digital return to a D/A converter in the stage box.
>> All going through CAT5, USB or Firewire cables. Not a single XLR
>> cable anywhere, except from on-stage mikes to the snake box.
>> Everything in digital domain. All processing and effects in the
>> mixer. Everything except the laptop computer itself included for
>> under $500 -- or less.
>
> Things are heading that way (Presonus, etc.) but there are a few
> things to keep in mind:
>
> - Digital is cheap and getting cheaper, analog is hard and not getting
> cheaper. You still need good analog front ends to feed the D/A
> converters. - Good power supplies for the analog part aren't cheap
> either
We're talking a cheap system here - the analog front end for this thing
(and power supplies) shouldn't cost anymore than they do on current cheap
desks like Mackie/Behringer.
> - Same for cases, knobs, sliders, buttons
I'd probably go with a standard keyboard/mouse interface and do
everything with screen real estate. Possibly a ATM style membrane keypad
and screen real estate scheme.
> - Cabling and connectors are expensive, especially if they are to take
> any kind of abuse. Firewire and USB 2.0 has plenty of bandwidth for
> digital audio but you still need beefy cables to hook stuff together.
CAT5.
>
> So, even though you could buy a bunch of components from DigiKey or
> whatever and put together a system like you describe I'm not really
> sure it's what the market wants yet.
...and THAT is where you get bit.
--
Aaron
