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Octave pedal to mimic barytone guitar?
Octave pedal to mimic barytone guitar?
Hi,
Just an idea I got. Can an octave pedal (octave down) be used to mimic
a barytone guitar. I'¨m thinking spaghetti western here. Spent some
time yesterday with a friends a computer and a program called Guitar
Rig and really liked the simulated Boss OC-2 that it had there.
The OC-2 in itself might sound a bit too synthetic to make a
believable baryton, but still a very cool sound. (I plan to use it
clean, due to metal allergy).
Thanks for input!
C
Hi,
Just an idea I got. Can an octave pedal (octave down) be used to mimic
a barytone guitar. I'¨m thinking spaghetti western here. Spent some
time yesterday with a friends a computer and a program called Guitar
Rig and really liked the simulated Boss OC-2 that it had there.
The OC-2 in itself might sound a bit too synthetic to make a
believable baryton, but still a very cool sound. (I plan to use it
clean, due to metal allergy).
Thanks for input!
C
Re: Octave pedal to mimic barytone guitar?
C wrote...
> Can an octave pedal (octave down) be used to mimic
> a barytone guitar. I'¨m thinking spaghetti western here.
[...]
I'd guess you could get a fair approximation, if you just wanted to play around with the sound. But if you really wanted to use that sound for a number of songs, or gig as a baritone player, you would better off with a baritone guitar.
I think Dano baritones can be had pretty cheap, and Fender Jag CIJ baritones seem like a pretty good deal for a nice guitar, IMO.
Checked the scales on a few guitars here - the tele is 25-3/4", the baritone is 28", and the bass is 34". I think the scale length is a big factor in getting that rich tone that characterizes baritone guitar, IMO. It would be fun to A/B a real baritone, and a standard scale guitar played through the pedal, though.
Don't want to go too clean with baritone guitar - reverb is a big part of the sound, and tremolo and vibrato are often used, too.
Some tunes off the top of my head that iirc feature the lovely haunting tones of the baritone guitar:
Ventures - 9th Wave, Lonely Bull, Sukyaki, Diamonds, Lonely Sea
Challengers - Rebel Rouser, Work Song
Lively Ones - Surf Rider
Jack Nitzsche - Lonely Surfer
Blue Stingrays - Blue Venus, Surfers Life
..and, lastly, a pic of my own lovely Harmony Vibra-Jet baritone guitar:
http :// tjwoodworking,com /IMGP0237.jpg
--
Timothy Juvenal
www .tjwoodworking,com
C wrote...
> Can an octave pedal (octave down) be used to mimic
> a barytone guitar. I'¨m thinking spaghetti western here.
[...]
I'd guess you could get a fair approximation, if you just wanted to play around with the sound. But if you really wanted to use that sound for a number of songs, or gig as a baritone player, you would better off with a baritone guitar.
I think Dano baritones can be had pretty cheap, and Fender Jag CIJ baritones seem like a pretty good deal for a nice guitar, IMO.
Checked the scales on a few guitars here - the tele is 25-3/4", the baritone is 28", and the bass is 34". I think the scale length is a big factor in getting that rich tone that characterizes baritone guitar, IMO. It would be fun to A/B a real baritone, and a standard scale guitar played through the pedal, though.
Don't want to go too clean with baritone guitar - reverb is a big part of the sound, and tremolo and vibrato are often used, too.
Some tunes off the top of my head that iirc feature the lovely haunting tones of the baritone guitar:
Ventures - 9th Wave, Lonely Bull, Sukyaki, Diamonds, Lonely Sea
Challengers - Rebel Rouser, Work Song
Lively Ones - Surf Rider
Jack Nitzsche - Lonely Surfer
Blue Stingrays - Blue Venus, Surfers Life
..and, lastly, a pic of my own lovely Harmony Vibra-Jet baritone guitar:
http :// tjwoodworking,com /IMGP0237.jpg
--
Timothy Juvenal
www .tjwoodworking,com
Re: Octave pedal to mimic barytone guitar?
On 7 Feb, 16:08, "Juvenal" <timo...@tjwoodworkingnospamming,com >
wrote:
> C wrote...
> > Can an octave pedal (octave down) be used to mimic
> > a barytone guitar. I'¨m thinking spaghetti western here.
>
> [...]
>
> I'd guess you could get a fair approximation, if you just wanted to play around with the sound. But if you really wanted to use that sound for a number of songs, or gig as a baritone player, you would better off with a baritone guitar.
>
> I think Dano baritones can be had pretty cheap, and Fender Jag CIJ baritones seem like a pretty good deal for a nice guitar, IMO.
>
> Checked the scales on a few guitars here - the tele is 25-3/4", the baritone is 28", and the bass is 34". I think the scale length is a big factor in getting that rich tone that characterizes baritone guitar, IMO. It would be fun to A/B a real baritone, and a standard scale guitar played through the pedal, though.
>
> Don't want to go too clean with baritone guitar - reverb is a big part of the sound, and tremolo and vibrato are often used, too.
>
> Some tunes off the top of my head that iirc feature the lovely haunting tones of the baritone guitar:
> Ventures - 9th Wave, Lonely Bull, Sukyaki, Diamonds, Lonely Sea
> Challengers - Rebel Rouser, Work Song
> Lively Ones - Surf Rider
> Jack Nitzsche - Lonely Surfer
> Blue Stingrays - Blue Venus, Surfers Life
>
> ..and, lastly, a pic of my own lovely Harmony Vibra-Jet baritone guitar:
>
> http :// tjwoodworking,com /IMGP0237.jpg
>
> --
> Timothy Juvenalwww .tjwoodworking,com
Hi there,
Thanks for helpful input. I'd love to check out those tunes you
mention! I wasn't even aware that barytone guitars were used in surf
music! Truth is, I've never heard a lot of baryton guitar at all, but
like you said I have sometimes seen Danelectros sold pretty cheap.
Anyway, I'll probably start out with a cheap OC-2 and later see if
there's a Danelectro coming up somewhere nearby!
Thanks,
Carl
On 7 Feb, 16:08, "Juvenal" <timo...@tjwoodworkingnospamming,com >
wrote:
> C wrote...
> > Can an octave pedal (octave down) be used to mimic
> > a barytone guitar. I'¨m thinking spaghetti western here.
>
> [...]
>
> I'd guess you could get a fair approximation, if you just wanted to play around with the sound. But if you really wanted to use that sound for a number of songs, or gig as a baritone player, you would better off with a baritone guitar.
>
> I think Dano baritones can be had pretty cheap, and Fender Jag CIJ baritones seem like a pretty good deal for a nice guitar, IMO.
>
> Checked the scales on a few guitars here - the tele is 25-3/4", the baritone is 28", and the bass is 34". I think the scale length is a big factor in getting that rich tone that characterizes baritone guitar, IMO. It would be fun to A/B a real baritone, and a standard scale guitar played through the pedal, though.
>
> Don't want to go too clean with baritone guitar - reverb is a big part of the sound, and tremolo and vibrato are often used, too.
>
> Some tunes off the top of my head that iirc feature the lovely haunting tones of the baritone guitar:
> Ventures - 9th Wave, Lonely Bull, Sukyaki, Diamonds, Lonely Sea
> Challengers - Rebel Rouser, Work Song
> Lively Ones - Surf Rider
> Jack Nitzsche - Lonely Surfer
> Blue Stingrays - Blue Venus, Surfers Life
>
> ..and, lastly, a pic of my own lovely Harmony Vibra-Jet baritone guitar:
>
> http :// tjwoodworking,com /IMGP0237.jpg
>
> --
> Timothy Juvenalwww .tjwoodworking,com
Hi there,
Thanks for helpful input. I'd love to check out those tunes you
mention! I wasn't even aware that barytone guitars were used in surf
music! Truth is, I've never heard a lot of baryton guitar at all, but
like you said I have sometimes seen Danelectros sold pretty cheap.
Anyway, I'll probably start out with a cheap OC-2 and later see if
there's a Danelectro coming up somewhere nearby!
Thanks,
Carl
Re: Octave pedal to mimic barytone guitar?
<carljoensson@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:1170877699.917186.271960@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups,com ...
On 7 Feb, 16:08, "Juvenal" <timo...@tjwoodworkingnospamming,com >
wrote:
> C wrote...
> > Can an octave pedal (octave down) be used to mimic
> > a barytone guitar. I'¨m thinking spaghetti western here.
>
> [...]
>
> I'd guess you could get a fair approximation, if you just wanted to play
> around with the sound. But if you really wanted to use that sound for a
> number of songs, or gig as a baritone player, you would better off with a
> baritone guitar.
>
> I think Dano baritones can be had pretty cheap, and Fender Jag CIJ
> baritones seem like a pretty good deal for a nice guitar, IMO.
>
> Checked the scales on a few guitars here - the tele is 25-3/4", the
> baritone is 28", and the bass is 34". I think the scale length is a big
> factor in getting that rich tone that characterizes baritone guitar, IMO.
> It would be fun to A/B a real baritone, and a standard scale guitar played
> through the pedal, though.
>
> Don't want to go too clean with baritone guitar - reverb is a big part of
> the sound, and tremolo and vibrato are often used, too.
>
> Some tunes off the top of my head that iirc feature the lovely haunting
> tones of the baritone guitar:
> Ventures - 9th Wave, Lonely Bull, Sukyaki, Diamonds, Lonely Sea
> Challengers - Rebel Rouser, Work Song
> Lively Ones - Surf Rider
> Jack Nitzsche - Lonely Surfer
> Blue Stingrays - Blue Venus, Surfers Life
>
> ..and, lastly, a pic of my own lovely Harmony Vibra-Jet baritone guitar:
>
> http :// tjwoodworking,com /IMGP0237.jpg
>
> --
> Timothy Juvenalwww .tjwoodworking,com
Hi there,
Thanks for helpful input. I'd love to check out those tunes you
mention! I wasn't even aware that barytone guitars were used in surf
music! Truth is, I've never heard a lot of baryton guitar at all, but
like you said I have sometimes seen Danelectros sold pretty cheap.
Anyway, I'll probably start out with a cheap OC-2 and later see if
there's a Danelectro coming up somewhere nearby!
Thanks,
Carl
OLP make a Music Man knockoff bari with a 30" scale, probably cheaper than a
Dan. Mine is the best sounding electric I have, after replacing the pickups.
I use 13-56 S/S strings tuned to open D (wear safety glasses when tuning
!!!), but it tunes down to B OK.
Tony D
<carljoensson@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:1170877699.917186.271960@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups,com ...
On 7 Feb, 16:08, "Juvenal" <timo...@tjwoodworkingnospamming,com >
wrote:
> C wrote...
> > Can an octave pedal (octave down) be used to mimic
> > a barytone guitar. I'¨m thinking spaghetti western here.
>
> [...]
>
> I'd guess you could get a fair approximation, if you just wanted to play
> around with the sound. But if you really wanted to use that sound for a
> number of songs, or gig as a baritone player, you would better off with a
> baritone guitar.
>
> I think Dano baritones can be had pretty cheap, and Fender Jag CIJ
> baritones seem like a pretty good deal for a nice guitar, IMO.
>
> Checked the scales on a few guitars here - the tele is 25-3/4", the
> baritone is 28", and the bass is 34". I think the scale length is a big
> factor in getting that rich tone that characterizes baritone guitar, IMO.
> It would be fun to A/B a real baritone, and a standard scale guitar played
> through the pedal, though.
>
> Don't want to go too clean with baritone guitar - reverb is a big part of
> the sound, and tremolo and vibrato are often used, too.
>
> Some tunes off the top of my head that iirc feature the lovely haunting
> tones of the baritone guitar:
> Ventures - 9th Wave, Lonely Bull, Sukyaki, Diamonds, Lonely Sea
> Challengers - Rebel Rouser, Work Song
> Lively Ones - Surf Rider
> Jack Nitzsche - Lonely Surfer
> Blue Stingrays - Blue Venus, Surfers Life
>
> ..and, lastly, a pic of my own lovely Harmony Vibra-Jet baritone guitar:
>
> http :// tjwoodworking,com /IMGP0237.jpg
>
> --
> Timothy Juvenalwww .tjwoodworking,com
Hi there,
Thanks for helpful input. I'd love to check out those tunes you
mention! I wasn't even aware that barytone guitars were used in surf
music! Truth is, I've never heard a lot of baryton guitar at all, but
like you said I have sometimes seen Danelectros sold pretty cheap.
Anyway, I'll probably start out with a cheap OC-2 and later see if
there's a Danelectro coming up somewhere nearby!
Thanks,
Carl
OLP make a Music Man knockoff bari with a 30" scale, probably cheaper than a
Dan. Mine is the best sounding electric I have, after replacing the pickups.
I use 13-56 S/S strings tuned to open D (wear safety glasses when tuning
!!!), but it tunes down to B OK.
Tony D
Re: Octave pedal to mimic barytone guitar?
in <1170854421.892806.196960@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups,com >,
carljoensson@hotmail,com <carljoensson@hotmail,com > said:
> Hi,
> Just an idea I got. Can an octave pedal (octave down) be used to mimic
> a barytone guitar. I'¨m thinking spaghetti western here. Spent some
> time yesterday with a friends a computer and a program called Guitar
> Rig and really liked the simulated Boss OC-2 that it had there.
>
> The OC-2 in itself might sound a bit too synthetic to make a
> believable baryton, but still a very cool sound. (I plan to use it
> clean, due to metal allergy).
the octave down on my Behringer XV-AMP makes my stratocopy sound like the
bass in the beginning of Pearl Jam's "Jeremy".
well, almost :)
in <1170854421.892806.196960@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups,com >,
carljoensson@hotmail,com <carljoensson@hotmail,com > said:
> Hi,
> Just an idea I got. Can an octave pedal (octave down) be used to mimic
> a barytone guitar. I'¨m thinking spaghetti western here. Spent some
> time yesterday with a friends a computer and a program called Guitar
> Rig and really liked the simulated Boss OC-2 that it had there.
>
> The OC-2 in itself might sound a bit too synthetic to make a
> believable baryton, but still a very cool sound. (I plan to use it
> clean, due to metal allergy).
the octave down on my Behringer XV-AMP makes my stratocopy sound like the
bass in the beginning of Pearl Jam's "Jeremy".
well, almost :)
Re: Octave pedal to mimic barytone guitar?
On Feb 9, 3:47 am, Mark Outrage <nob...@mailhub.philly,net > wrote:
> in <1170854421.892806.196...@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups,com >,
> carljoens...@hotmail,com <carljoens...@hotmail,com > said:
>
> > Hi,
> > Just an idea I got. Can an octave pedal (octave down) be used to mimic
> > a barytone guitar. I'¨m thinking spaghetti western here. Spent some
> > time yesterday with a friends a computer and a program called Guitar
> > Rig and really liked the simulated Boss OC-2 that it had there.
>
> > The OC-2 in itself might sound a bit too synthetic to make a
> > believable baryton, but still a very cool sound. (I plan to use it
> > clean, due to metal allergy).
>
> the octave down on my Behringer XV-AMP makes my stratocopy sound like the
> bass in the beginning of Pearl Jam's "Jeremy".
>
> well, almost :)
The Bass on that song is an 8 string bass, so for each note he plays
you are hearing the bass note, and a note that is an octave higher as
well. So yeah, I bet a guitar with an octave pedal would get that sort
of sound - especially if you are still hearing a bit of your guitar's
original un-effected note.
On Feb 9, 3:47 am, Mark Outrage <nob...@mailhub.philly,net > wrote:
> in <1170854421.892806.196...@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups,com >,
> carljoens...@hotmail,com <carljoens...@hotmail,com > said:
>
> > Hi,
> > Just an idea I got. Can an octave pedal (octave down) be used to mimic
> > a barytone guitar. I'¨m thinking spaghetti western here. Spent some
> > time yesterday with a friends a computer and a program called Guitar
> > Rig and really liked the simulated Boss OC-2 that it had there.
>
> > The OC-2 in itself might sound a bit too synthetic to make a
> > believable baryton, but still a very cool sound. (I plan to use it
> > clean, due to metal allergy).
>
> the octave down on my Behringer XV-AMP makes my stratocopy sound like the
> bass in the beginning of Pearl Jam's "Jeremy".
>
> well, almost :)
The Bass on that song is an 8 string bass, so for each note he plays
you are hearing the bass note, and a note that is an octave higher as
well. So yeah, I bet a guitar with an octave pedal would get that sort
of sound - especially if you are still hearing a bit of your guitar's
original un-effected note.
