Preamps for a Marshall EL 34 100/100 - 1960A LEAD Cab

Preamps for a Marshall EL 34 100/100 - 1960A LEAD Cab

Greetings

I just bought a second hand Marshall EL 34 100/100 and a 1960A LEAD
cab. I want to start building my preamp setup and I am looking for
Ideas on what would sound great with my amp/cab. I like the sound of
Whitesnake, Van Halen, Satriani, Randy Rhoads etc

I currently have an old BOSS GT 5 Effects floor board but I just
don't get the right thick distortion from this unit . For clean
chorous/delay guitar it is great .

I also would appreiciate it very much If anyone can lead me on the
right track on how I can set up the 2 channels of the marshall amp
with the effect loop etc .

Thanks in advance

Re: Preamps for a Marshall EL 34 100/100 - 1960A LEAD Cab

livewire wrote:

> Greetings
>
> I just bought a second hand Marshall EL 34 100/100 and a 1960A LEAD
> cab. I want to start building my preamp setup and I am looking for
> Ideas on what would sound great with my amp/cab. I like the sound of
> Whitesnake, Van Halen, Satriani, Randy Rhoads etc
>
> I currently have an old BOSS GT 5 Effects floor board but I just
> don't get the right thick distortion from this unit . For clean
> chorous/delay guitar it is great .
>
> I also would appreiciate it very much If anyone can lead me on the
> right track on how I can set up the 2 channels of the marshall amp
> with the effect loop etc .
>
> Thanks in advance
>

First suggestion: Buy earplugs. That is gonna be LOUD (unless all your
distortion is in your preamp).

Rack gear is out of favor, so for foot controlled midi features, you
might find some deals on units like the Digitech 2112 and 2120. Toward
the budget side is the Digitech Twin Tube GFX-1, that really does sound
good if you tweak it and play with the presets.

For analog, there's the ADA MP1 and MP2 types (I'm told they are analog
signal with digital switching), the Peavey Rockmaster, and my personal
favorite the Soho QTR-1. It's the improved reincarnation of the Kitty
Hawk Quattro in a bigger case with a more reliable power supply. Four
tubes, four gain levels in two channels that go from clean to high gain.
No digital wizardry, just tube distortion.

Re: Preamps for a Marshall EL 34 100/100 - 1960A LEAD Cab

"livewire" <cvdcosta@gmail . com > schrieb:

>Greetings
>
>I just bought a second hand Marshall EL 34 100/100 and a 1960A LEAD
>cab. I want to start building my preamp setup and I am looking for
>Ideas on what would sound great with my amp/cab. I like the sound of
>Whitesnake, Van Halen, Satriani, Randy Rhoads etc
>
>I currently have an old BOSS GT 5 Effects floor board but I just
>don't get the right thick distortion from this unit . For clean
>chorous/delay guitar it is great .
>
>I also would appreiciate it very much If anyone can lead me on the
>right track on how I can set up the 2 channels of the marshall amp
>with the effect loop etc .
>
>Thanks in advance

Hi!

I use my Marshall MR9200 (EL 34 100/100 with different tubes) with a
PeavyRockmaster. The 3 channel preamp has different mono effekt loops.
After the Rockmaster I've a Boss SE-70 to get a stereo-signal for the
both channels of the MR9200.

The JMP1 is also a good preamp and has midi.

regards
Jürgen
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Re: Preamps for a Marshall EL 34 100/100 - 1960A LEAD Cab

On Feb 21, 8:39 pm, "livewire" <cvdco...@gmail . com > wrote:
> Greetings
>
> I just bought a second hand Marshall EL 34 100/100 and a 1960A LEAD
> cab. I want to start building my preamp setup and I am looking for
> Ideas on what would sound great with my amp/cab. I like the sound of
> Whitesnake, Van Halen, Satriani, Randy Rhoads etc
>
> I currently have an old BOSS GT 5 Effects floor board but I just
> don't get the right thick distortion from this unit . For clean
> chorous/delay guitar it is great .
>
> I also would appreiciate it very much If anyone can lead me on the
> right track on how I can set up the 2 channels of the marshall amp
> with the effect loop etc .
>
> Thanks in advance

Hi - I use my EL34 100/100 with a Marshall JMP-1...sounds good. I
change what effects unit I run in the effects loops depending upon how
I feel. I used a Rocktron Xpression for awhile and it sounds great.
The JMP-1 has an effect level setting that controlled the levels. I
was able to run stereo out of the JMP-1 into the channels of the EL34
with no problems. The JMP-1 is midi controllable but it only does
Program Changes, which is no big deal. Most effects untis will let you
change effects via CC's. I control it with a Rocktron All
access...works great.

Re: Preamps for a Marshall EL 34 100/100 - 1960A LEAD Cab

On Feb 21, 8:39 pm, "livewire" <cvdco...@gmail . com > wrote:
> Greetings
>
> I just bought a second hand Marshall EL 34 100/100 and a 1960A LEAD
> cab. I want to start building my preamp setup and I am looking for
> Ideas on what would sound great with my amp/cab. I like the sound of
> Whitesnake, Van Halen, Satriani, Randy Rhoads etc
>
> I currently have an old BOSS GT 5 Effects floor board but I just
> don't get the right thick distortion from this unit . For clean
> chorous/delay guitar it is great .
>
> I also would appreiciate it very much If anyone can lead me on the
> right track on how I can set up the 2 channels of the marshall amp
> with the effect loop etc .
>
> Thanks in advance



Based on your tastes, I'll second what Jim and Deathlord already
suggested. The ADA MP1 was *the* hot rack preamp to have back in the
80s and they seem to go relatively inexpensively on Ebay these days.
The Marshall JMP-1 is also a great sounding preamp if you want to
stick with a more Marshall sound but with the added flexibility of
several different voicings and MIDI control.

Re: Preamps for a Marshall EL 34 100/100 - 1960A LEAD Cab


"RichCI" <richci@gmail . com > wrote in message
news:1172156289.171540.41940@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups . com ...
> On Feb 21, 8:39 pm, "livewire" <cvdco...@gmail . com > wrote:
>> Greetings
>>
>> I just bought a second hand Marshall EL 34 100/100 and a 1960A LEAD
>> cab. I want to start building my preamp setup and I am looking for
>> Ideas on what would sound great with my amp/cab. I like the sound of
>> Whitesnake, Van Halen, Satriani, Randy Rhoads etc
>>
>> I currently have an old BOSS GT 5 Effects floor board but I just
>> don't get the right thick distortion from this unit . For clean
>> chorous/delay guitar it is great .
>>
>> I also would appreiciate it very much If anyone can lead me on the
>> right track on how I can set up the 2 channels of the marshall amp
>> with the effect loop etc .
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>
>
>
> Based on your tastes, I'll second what Jim and Deathlord already
> suggested. The ADA MP1 was *the* hot rack preamp to have back in the
> 80s and they seem to go relatively inexpensively on Ebay these days.
> The Marshall JMP-1 is also a great sounding preamp if you want to
> stick with a more Marshall sound but with the added flexibility of
> several different voicings and MIDI control.
>

Do both of these have instrument- ,as well as line-level outputs ? Can they
feed the input of an amp ?

Re: Preamps for a Marshall EL 34 100/100 - 1960A LEAD Cab

Chief_Billy wrote:

> "RichCI" <richci@gmail . com > wrote in message
> news:1172156289.171540.41940@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups . com ...
>
>>On Feb 21, 8:39 pm, "livewire" <cvdco...@gmail . com > wrote:
>>
>>>Greetings
>>>
>>>I just bought a second hand Marshall EL 34 100/100 and a 1960A LEAD
>>>cab. I want to start building my preamp setup and I am looking for
>>>Ideas on what would sound great with my amp/cab. I like the sound of
>>>Whitesnake, Van Halen, Satriani, Randy Rhoads etc
>>>
>>>I currently have an old BOSS GT 5 Effects floor board but I just
>>>don't get the right thick distortion from this unit . For clean
>>>chorous/delay guitar it is great .
>>>
>>>I also would appreiciate it very much If anyone can lead me on the
>>>right track on how I can set up the 2 channels of the marshall amp
>>>with the effect loop etc .
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance
>>
>>
>>
>>Based on your tastes, I'll second what Jim and Deathlord already
>>suggested. The ADA MP1 was *the* hot rack preamp to have back in the
>>80s and they seem to go relatively inexpensively on Ebay these days.
>>The Marshall JMP-1 is also a great sounding preamp if you want to
>>stick with a more Marshall sound but with the added flexibility of
>>several different voicings and MIDI control.
>>
>
>
> Do both of these have instrument- ,as well as line-level outputs ? Can they
> feed the input of an amp ?
>
>

Try the rackmount Hughes and Kettner Tubeman Plus. Really nice cleans.
Goes to high gain. High voltage on a single 12AX7. Has a switch for
a scooped metal, and a switch for mids boost. Some have a midi module.

If you don't need high gain, rackmount Chandler Tube Driver. It also
gives you the bias control mod that only went into select pedals.