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surprise tone
Short story:
I was at work today, finishing audio-production on a kids video thing.
i got asked if I could put a music bed under one particular piece.
"Hmmm. Yeah. Ok."
This is what I look forward to everyday, but the idea had escaped me.
It would have been completely sufficient to put some generic bed of
pre-recorded keyboard ambience. But I reached for my stratocaster and
went to work. 90 minutes later (with the help of some loops and
samples, I had a pretty cool, but completely inappropriate rock piece
finished.
The best part was the guitar solo.
I cut a track through my POD 2.0, set on something Marshall-ish I
think. I was running this through my little Mackie mixer, and still
had that 2.5k midrange level turned up from a previous sound I had
tried with the neck pickup. I also didn't notice that I had flipped
the pickup-selector to the seldom-used MIDDLE POSITION.
I ended up with this really cool unusual (for me) tone that I liked
very much. It was almost like the cocked-wah sound, without being so
honky and weird. Sadly, I couldn't use it for the project, so I ended
up using one of those aforementioned generic beds of pre-recorded
keyboard ambience.
Usually, I try for something unconventional and either end up with
something awful or ordinary. Isn't it cool when you use completely
unusual sounds and end up with something you love? That rarely happens
for me.
Anyone else ever stumbled on to a cool tone accidentally?
-dave----:::
w w w .myspace . com /geetardave
Short story:
I was at work today, finishing audio-production on a kids video thing.
i got asked if I could put a music bed under one particular piece.
"Hmmm. Yeah. Ok."
This is what I look forward to everyday, but the idea had escaped me.
It would have been completely sufficient to put some generic bed of
pre-recorded keyboard ambience. But I reached for my stratocaster and
went to work. 90 minutes later (with the help of some loops and
samples, I had a pretty cool, but completely inappropriate rock piece
finished.
The best part was the guitar solo.
I cut a track through my POD 2.0, set on something Marshall-ish I
think. I was running this through my little Mackie mixer, and still
had that 2.5k midrange level turned up from a previous sound I had
tried with the neck pickup. I also didn't notice that I had flipped
the pickup-selector to the seldom-used MIDDLE POSITION.
I ended up with this really cool unusual (for me) tone that I liked
very much. It was almost like the cocked-wah sound, without being so
honky and weird. Sadly, I couldn't use it for the project, so I ended
up using one of those aforementioned generic beds of pre-recorded
keyboard ambience.
Usually, I try for something unconventional and either end up with
something awful or ordinary. Isn't it cool when you use completely
unusual sounds and end up with something you love? That rarely happens
for me.
Anyone else ever stumbled on to a cool tone accidentally?
-dave----:::
w w w .myspace . com /geetardave
Re: surprise tone
Did they pay you for the unproductive time you spent fu---ng around with
your guitar?
"Geetar Dave" <ebz@one . net > wrote in message
news:1173403924.783433.82000@n33g2000cwc.googlegroups . com ...
> Short story:
> I was at work today, finishing audio-production on a kids video thing.
> i got asked if I could put a music bed under one particular piece.
>
> "Hmmm. Yeah. Ok."
>
> This is what I look forward to everyday, but the idea had escaped me.
>
> It would have been completely sufficient to put some generic bed of
> pre-recorded keyboard ambience. But I reached for my stratocaster and
> went to work. 90 minutes later (with the help of some loops and
> samples, I had a pretty cool, but completely inappropriate rock piece
> finished.
>
> The best part was the guitar solo.
>
> I cut a track through my POD 2.0, set on something Marshall-ish I
> think. I was running this through my little Mackie mixer, and still
> had that 2.5k midrange level turned up from a previous sound I had
> tried with the neck pickup. I also didn't notice that I had flipped
> the pickup-selector to the seldom-used MIDDLE POSITION.
>
> I ended up with this really cool unusual (for me) tone that I liked
> very much. It was almost like the cocked-wah sound, without being so
> honky and weird. Sadly, I couldn't use it for the project, so I ended
> up using one of those aforementioned generic beds of pre-recorded
> keyboard ambience.
>
> Usually, I try for something unconventional and either end up with
> something awful or ordinary. Isn't it cool when you use completely
> unusual sounds and end up with something you love? That rarely happens
> for me.
>
> Anyone else ever stumbled on to a cool tone accidentally?
>
> -dave----:::
> w w w .myspace . com /geetardave
>
Did they pay you for the unproductive time you spent fu---ng around with
your guitar?
"Geetar Dave" <ebz@one . net > wrote in message
news:1173403924.783433.82000@n33g2000cwc.googlegroups . com ...
> Short story:
> I was at work today, finishing audio-production on a kids video thing.
> i got asked if I could put a music bed under one particular piece.
>
> "Hmmm. Yeah. Ok."
>
> This is what I look forward to everyday, but the idea had escaped me.
>
> It would have been completely sufficient to put some generic bed of
> pre-recorded keyboard ambience. But I reached for my stratocaster and
> went to work. 90 minutes later (with the help of some loops and
> samples, I had a pretty cool, but completely inappropriate rock piece
> finished.
>
> The best part was the guitar solo.
>
> I cut a track through my POD 2.0, set on something Marshall-ish I
> think. I was running this through my little Mackie mixer, and still
> had that 2.5k midrange level turned up from a previous sound I had
> tried with the neck pickup. I also didn't notice that I had flipped
> the pickup-selector to the seldom-used MIDDLE POSITION.
>
> I ended up with this really cool unusual (for me) tone that I liked
> very much. It was almost like the cocked-wah sound, without being so
> honky and weird. Sadly, I couldn't use it for the project, so I ended
> up using one of those aforementioned generic beds of pre-recorded
> keyboard ambience.
>
> Usually, I try for something unconventional and either end up with
> something awful or ordinary. Isn't it cool when you use completely
> unusual sounds and end up with something you love? That rarely happens
> for me.
>
> Anyone else ever stumbled on to a cool tone accidentally?
>
> -dave----:::
> w w w .myspace . com /geetardave
>
Re: surprise tone
On Mar 8, 9:10 pm, "Keith Adams" <keithad...@socal.rr . com > wrote:
> Did they pay you for the unproductive time you spent fu---ng around with
> your guitar?
What was unproductive about what he did at work? In the creative
process, there are almost always ideas and exploratory concepts that
you spend time developing in the hope that it will lead to a finished
product or, at least, make you think of something else that will lead
to a finished product. If nothing else, he learned something new
today and will probably apply it to another project later on even if
it didn't work for what he is currently working on.
>
> "Geetar Dave" <e...@one . net > wrote in message
>
> news:1173403924.783433.82000@n33g2000cwc.googlegroups . com ...
>
> > Short story:
> > I was at work today, finishing audio-production on a kids video thing.
> > i got asked if I could put a music bed under one particular piece.
>
> > "Hmmm. Yeah. Ok."
>
> > This is what I look forward to everyday, but the idea had escaped me.
>
> > It would have been completely sufficient to put some generic bed of
> > pre-recorded keyboard ambience. But I reached for my stratocaster and
> > went to work. 90 minutes later (with the help of some loops and
> > samples, I had a pretty cool, but completely inappropriate rock piece
> > finished.
>
> > The best part was the guitar solo.
>
> > I cut a track through my POD 2.0, set on something Marshall-ish I
> > think. I was running this through my little Mackie mixer, and still
> > had that 2.5k midrange level turned up from a previous sound I had
> > tried with the neck pickup. I also didn't notice that I had flipped
> > the pickup-selector to the seldom-used MIDDLE POSITION.
>
> > I ended up with this really cool unusual (for me) tone that I liked
> > very much. It was almost like the cocked-wah sound, without being so
> > honky and weird. Sadly, I couldn't use it for the project, so I ended
> > up using one of those aforementioned generic beds of pre-recorded
> > keyboard ambience.
>
> > Usually, I try for something unconventional and either end up with
> > something awful or ordinary. Isn't it cool when you use completely
> > unusual sounds and end up with something you love? That rarely happens
> > for me.
>
> > Anyone else ever stumbled on to a cool tone accidentally?
>
> > -dave----:::
> >w w w .myspace . com /geetardave
On Mar 8, 9:10 pm, "Keith Adams" <keithad...@socal.rr . com > wrote:
> Did they pay you for the unproductive time you spent fu---ng around with
> your guitar?
What was unproductive about what he did at work? In the creative
process, there are almost always ideas and exploratory concepts that
you spend time developing in the hope that it will lead to a finished
product or, at least, make you think of something else that will lead
to a finished product. If nothing else, he learned something new
today and will probably apply it to another project later on even if
it didn't work for what he is currently working on.
>
> "Geetar Dave" <e...@one . net > wrote in message
>
> news:1173403924.783433.82000@n33g2000cwc.googlegroups . com ...
>
> > Short story:
> > I was at work today, finishing audio-production on a kids video thing.
> > i got asked if I could put a music bed under one particular piece.
>
> > "Hmmm. Yeah. Ok."
>
> > This is what I look forward to everyday, but the idea had escaped me.
>
> > It would have been completely sufficient to put some generic bed of
> > pre-recorded keyboard ambience. But I reached for my stratocaster and
> > went to work. 90 minutes later (with the help of some loops and
> > samples, I had a pretty cool, but completely inappropriate rock piece
> > finished.
>
> > The best part was the guitar solo.
>
> > I cut a track through my POD 2.0, set on something Marshall-ish I
> > think. I was running this through my little Mackie mixer, and still
> > had that 2.5k midrange level turned up from a previous sound I had
> > tried with the neck pickup. I also didn't notice that I had flipped
> > the pickup-selector to the seldom-used MIDDLE POSITION.
>
> > I ended up with this really cool unusual (for me) tone that I liked
> > very much. It was almost like the cocked-wah sound, without being so
> > honky and weird. Sadly, I couldn't use it for the project, so I ended
> > up using one of those aforementioned generic beds of pre-recorded
> > keyboard ambience.
>
> > Usually, I try for something unconventional and either end up with
> > something awful or ordinary. Isn't it cool when you use completely
> > unusual sounds and end up with something you love? That rarely happens
> > for me.
>
> > Anyone else ever stumbled on to a cool tone accidentally?
>
> > -dave----:::
> >w w w .myspace . com /geetardave
Re: surprise tone
"Keith Adams" <keithadams@socal.rr . com > wrote in message
news:45f0c1fe$0$24702$4c368faf@roadrunner . com ...
> Did they pay you for the unproductive time you spent fu---ng around with
> your guitar?
I would give my left arm to make the $$$ I make at my day gig, but do THAT
for a living...
What an oddball question to ask... Dude, you need to understand times have
changed. I thought *I* was a dinosaur...
Keef... How much did you make today and what did you do to earn it?
I won't pressure you to answer. You won't have one.
Jeff
"Keith Adams" <keithadams@socal.rr . com > wrote in message
news:45f0c1fe$0$24702$4c368faf@roadrunner . com ...
> Did they pay you for the unproductive time you spent fu---ng around with
> your guitar?
I would give my left arm to make the $$$ I make at my day gig, but do THAT
for a living...
What an oddball question to ask... Dude, you need to understand times have
changed. I thought *I* was a dinosaur...
Keef... How much did you make today and what did you do to earn it?
I won't pressure you to answer. You won't have one.
Jeff
Re: surprise tone
"PRS Geek" <nospam@nospam . com > wrote in message
news:4q5Ih.5835$M65.3378@newssvr21.news.prodigy . net ...
> I won't pressure you to answer. You won't have one.
Jealousy doth need no explanation; tis a curse plain and simple.
"PRS Geek" <nospam@nospam . com > wrote in message
news:4q5Ih.5835$M65.3378@newssvr21.news.prodigy . net ...
> I won't pressure you to answer. You won't have one.
Jealousy doth need no explanation; tis a curse plain and simple.
Re: surprise tone
On Mar 8, 9:10 pm, "Keith Adams" <keithad...@socal.rr . com > wrote:
> Did they pay you for the unproductive time you spent fu---ng around with
> your guitar?
Heheh. Keith, you really know how to bring joy to my day, you dainty
little ray of sunshine.
Yep, they pay me to make music and produce audio EVERY DAY.
Now, does anyone have any cool surpising tones they discovered? I am
looking to find some new sounds.
-dave----:::
w w w .myspace . com /geetardave
On Mar 8, 9:10 pm, "Keith Adams" <keithad...@socal.rr . com > wrote:
> Did they pay you for the unproductive time you spent fu---ng around with
> your guitar?
Heheh. Keith, you really know how to bring joy to my day, you dainty
little ray of sunshine.
Yep, they pay me to make music and produce audio EVERY DAY.
Now, does anyone have any cool surpising tones they discovered? I am
looking to find some new sounds.
-dave----:::
w w w .myspace . com /geetardave
Re: surprise tone
PRS Geek wrote:
>I would give my left arm to make the $$$ I make at my day gig, but do THAT
>for a living...
I don't think there is much call for a one armed guitarist my PRS
brother. :-)
PRS Geek wrote:
>I would give my left arm to make the $$$ I make at my day gig, but do THAT
>for a living...
I don't think there is much call for a one armed guitarist my PRS
brother. :-)
Re: surprise tone
"Derek" <derek@ycoaoffice . com > wrote in message
news:1173469238.203172.54780@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups . com ...
> PRS Geek wrote:
>
>>I would give my left arm to make the $$$ I make at my day gig, but do THAT
>>for a living...
>
> I don't think there is much call for a one armed guitarist my PRS
> brother. :-)
Damn... I knew I should been using both!
--
Jeff
* tinyurl . com /8sz9r
"Derek" <derek@ycoaoffice . com > wrote in message
news:1173469238.203172.54780@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups . com ...
> PRS Geek wrote:
>
>>I would give my left arm to make the $$$ I make at my day gig, but do THAT
>>for a living...
>
> I don't think there is much call for a one armed guitarist my PRS
> brother. :-)
Damn... I knew I should been using both!
--
Jeff
* tinyurl . com /8sz9r
Re: surprise tone
On Mar 9, 2:31 pm, "Geetar Dave" <e...@one . net > wrote:
> On Mar 8, 9:10 pm, "Keith Adams" <keithad...@socal.rr . com > wrote:
>
> > Did they pay you for the unproductive time you spent fu---ng around with
> > your guitar?
>
> Heheh. Keith, you really know how to bring joy to my day, you dainty
> little ray of sunshine.
>
> Yep, they pay me to make music and produce audio EVERY DAY.
>
> Now, does anyone have any cool surpising tones they discovered? I am
> looking to find some new sounds.
>
If you have a treble booster, try placing some sort of other device
with an output control (like a clean boost or a compressor set to a
mild setting) before it in your signal chain. Vary the output of that
other device to effect the tone of the treble booster; you'll go from
the regular sound of the treble booster to something even brighter
sounding until, eventually, you start overloading the treble booster.
On Mar 9, 2:31 pm, "Geetar Dave" <e...@one . net > wrote:
> On Mar 8, 9:10 pm, "Keith Adams" <keithad...@socal.rr . com > wrote:
>
> > Did they pay you for the unproductive time you spent fu---ng around with
> > your guitar?
>
> Heheh. Keith, you really know how to bring joy to my day, you dainty
> little ray of sunshine.
>
> Yep, they pay me to make music and produce audio EVERY DAY.
>
> Now, does anyone have any cool surpising tones they discovered? I am
> looking to find some new sounds.
>
If you have a treble booster, try placing some sort of other device
with an output control (like a clean boost or a compressor set to a
mild setting) before it in your signal chain. Vary the output of that
other device to effect the tone of the treble booster; you'll go from
the regular sound of the treble booster to something even brighter
sounding until, eventually, you start overloading the treble booster.
Re: surprise tone
"Geetar Dave" <ebz@one . net > wrote in message
news:1173468702.815700.34310@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups . com ...
> On Mar 8, 9:10 pm, "Keith Adams" <keithad...@socal.rr . com > wrote:
>> Did they pay you for the unproductive time you spent fu---ng around with
>> your guitar?
>
> Heheh. Keith, you really know how to bring joy to my day, you dainty
> little ray of sunshine.
>
> Yep, they pay me to make music and produce audio EVERY DAY.
>
> Now, does anyone have any cool surpising tones they discovered? I am
> looking to find some new sounds.
>
> -dave----:::
> w w w .myspace . com /geetardave
I don't know, but I bought 2 Mullard preamp tubes (used) at the Columbus
Guitar Show in January. Stuck one in the V1 of my DSL 100 head and it
actually made that head sound "decent". The other was a tad microphonic.
I get some cool sounds live by using a Whammy 2 (one octave up) and an
Envelope Filter... I've never heard that before and it's quite cool. Same
Whammy setting and Slow Gear is also very cool. Using the Line6 Filter
Modeler. Those sounds turn some heads.
--
Jeff
* tinyurl . com /8sz9r
"Geetar Dave" <ebz@one . net > wrote in message
news:1173468702.815700.34310@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups . com ...
> On Mar 8, 9:10 pm, "Keith Adams" <keithad...@socal.rr . com > wrote:
>> Did they pay you for the unproductive time you spent fu---ng around with
>> your guitar?
>
> Heheh. Keith, you really know how to bring joy to my day, you dainty
> little ray of sunshine.
>
> Yep, they pay me to make music and produce audio EVERY DAY.
>
> Now, does anyone have any cool surpising tones they discovered? I am
> looking to find some new sounds.
>
> -dave----:::
> w w w .myspace . com /geetardave
I don't know, but I bought 2 Mullard preamp tubes (used) at the Columbus
Guitar Show in January. Stuck one in the V1 of my DSL 100 head and it
actually made that head sound "decent". The other was a tad microphonic.
I get some cool sounds live by using a Whammy 2 (one octave up) and an
Envelope Filter... I've never heard that before and it's quite cool. Same
Whammy setting and Slow Gear is also very cool. Using the Line6 Filter
Modeler. Those sounds turn some heads.
--
Jeff
* tinyurl . com /8sz9r
Re: surprise tone
I did recently discover some great tone....sort of by accident.
I bought one of those little mini Marshall stacks (15 watts & 2 cabs).
I know the speakers in those little cabs are nothing worth getting
excited about...but just for grins, I plugged my Soldano into them.
Holy CRAP!! Talk about monster tone!!!
Of course, my Soldano would likely blow the magnets off those
speakers....so not a good idea for gigs.
However, I have now purchased a second mini stack and upgraded all the
speakers in all the cabs..
So now, my gig-rig consists of the Soldano "Atomic 16" head sitting on
top of FOUR mini Marshall cabs. Not only does it sound good, it looks
ultra cool!
Mike
>
>
I did recently discover some great tone....sort of by accident.
I bought one of those little mini Marshall stacks (15 watts & 2 cabs).
I know the speakers in those little cabs are nothing worth getting
excited about...but just for grins, I plugged my Soldano into them.
Holy CRAP!! Talk about monster tone!!!
Of course, my Soldano would likely blow the magnets off those
speakers....so not a good idea for gigs.
However, I have now purchased a second mini stack and upgraded all the
speakers in all the cabs..
So now, my gig-rig consists of the Soldano "Atomic 16" head sitting on
top of FOUR mini Marshall cabs. Not only does it sound good, it looks
ultra cool!
Mike
>
>
Re: surprise tone
On Mar 8, 8:32 pm, "Geetar Dave" <e...@one . net > wrote:
> Anyone else ever stumbled on to a cool tone accidentally?
> -dave----:::w w w .myspace . com /geetardave
Oh yeah...and it was by just that...*accident*.
I think the only was to get those is to play without thought, and to
twist the shit outta your recording knobs and do tests.
And then there are effects....perhaps you are drifting towards a
processor with a tone of tones in it?
That may help...can't think of anything else.
Peace,
Jason
On Mar 8, 8:32 pm, "Geetar Dave" <e...@one . net > wrote:
> Anyone else ever stumbled on to a cool tone accidentally?
> -dave----:::w w w .myspace . com /geetardave
Oh yeah...and it was by just that...*accident*.
I think the only was to get those is to play without thought, and to
twist the shit outta your recording knobs and do tests.
And then there are effects....perhaps you are drifting towards a
processor with a tone of tones in it?
That may help...can't think of anything else.
Peace,
Jason
Re: surprise tone
Geetar Dave wrote:
> Anyone else ever stumbled on to a cool tone accidentally?
Not accidentally but I tried to get a real sick tone:
The signal goes into a EHX Metal Muff followed by a Boss Tremolo and
next into a EHX Big Muff.
On the Tremolo the rate is set to 8-9, the depth to 10 and the wave to
8.
When I put a Wah after it the guitar almost sounded like vomiting.
Geetar Dave wrote:
> Anyone else ever stumbled on to a cool tone accidentally?
Not accidentally but I tried to get a real sick tone:
The signal goes into a EHX Metal Muff followed by a Boss Tremolo and
next into a EHX Big Muff.
On the Tremolo the rate is set to 8-9, the depth to 10 and the wave to
8.
When I put a Wah after it the guitar almost sounded like vomiting.
Re: surprise tone
On Mar 10, 8:49 am, MGrd <m...@gmx . net > wrote:
> Geetar Dave wrote:
> > Anyone else ever stumbled on to a cool tone accidentally?
>
> Not accidentally but I tried to get a real sick tone:
>
> The signal goes into a EHX Metal Muff followed by a Boss Tremolo and
> next into a EHX Big Muff.
> On the Tremolo the rate is set to 8-9, the depth to 10 and the wave to
> 8.
>
> When I put a Wah after it the guitar almost sounded like vomiting.
Sounds like something we all need to add to our repertiores : )
On Mar 10, 8:49 am, MGrd <m...@gmx . net > wrote:
> Geetar Dave wrote:
> > Anyone else ever stumbled on to a cool tone accidentally?
>
> Not accidentally but I tried to get a real sick tone:
>
> The signal goes into a EHX Metal Muff followed by a Boss Tremolo and
> next into a EHX Big Muff.
> On the Tremolo the rate is set to 8-9, the depth to 10 and the wave to
> 8.
>
> When I put a Wah after it the guitar almost sounded like vomiting.
Sounds like something we all need to add to our repertiores : )
Re: surprise tone
RichL wrote:
> On Mar 10, 8:49 am, MGrd <m...@gmx . net > wrote:
>> Geetar Dave wrote:
>>> Anyone else ever stumbled on to a cool tone accidentally?
>> Not accidentally but I tried to get a real sick tone:
>>
>> The signal goes into a EHX Metal Muff followed by a Boss Tremolo and
>> next into a EHX Big Muff.
>> On the Tremolo the rate is set to 8-9, the depth to 10 and the wave to
>> 8.
>>
>> When I put a Wah after it the guitar almost sounded like vomiting.
>
> Sounds like something we all need to add to our repertiores : )
Not really. If you want your band mates look angry, sure. Otherwise ...
RichL wrote:
> On Mar 10, 8:49 am, MGrd <m...@gmx . net > wrote:
>> Geetar Dave wrote:
>>> Anyone else ever stumbled on to a cool tone accidentally?
>> Not accidentally but I tried to get a real sick tone:
>>
>> The signal goes into a EHX Metal Muff followed by a Boss Tremolo and
>> next into a EHX Big Muff.
>> On the Tremolo the rate is set to 8-9, the depth to 10 and the wave to
>> 8.
>>
>> When I put a Wah after it the guitar almost sounded like vomiting.
>
> Sounds like something we all need to add to our repertiores : )
Not really. If you want your band mates look angry, sure. Otherwise ...
