Rockman X100 Phone/Output question

Rockman X100 Phone/Output question

Hello:

I just purchased a Rockman X100 on eBay. I have been unable to get a
signal on the right channel from either of the two Phone/Output
jacks. In other words, I only hear my guitar on the left side
(channel) of my headphones when plugged into either of the two Rockman
Phone\Output jacks. I've tried two sets of headphones. One headphone
has a built-in stereo mini-jack input connector. The other headphone
has an adapter (1/4" stereo -> stereo mini-jack). Both headphones work
in other stereo devices. Also, I only get the left channel thru my
headphones when I plug into my stereo thru the Rockman Aux Input to
listen to music while playing my guitar. So I think I've isolated the
problem to the Phone/Output jacks. NOTE: I CAN get stereo (both
channels) thru the headphones if I pull the headphone mini-jack
connector about half-way out of the Rockman Phone/Output jack(s). But
I have to get the connector in just the right spot (it won't lock) to
keep the stereo signal. Am I doing something wrong? I thought the
Rockman Phone/Output jacks accepted stereo headphone connectors? I
know the Rockman X100's have a history of problems with loose Phone/
Output jacks... But these jacks seem rock solid compared to other
Rockman's I've played thru. It's been awhile since I played thru one
though, so I thought I was maybe missing something simple. Thanks!

Re: Rockman X100 Phone/Output question

"obcbeatle" <obcbeatle@yahoo . com > wrote in news:1173631656.301837.324630
@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups . com :

> Hello:
>
> I just purchased a Rockman X100 on eBay. I have been unable to get a
> signal on the right channel from either of the two Phone/Output
> jacks. In other words, I only hear my guitar on the left side
> (channel) of my headphones when plugged into either of the two Rockman
> Phone\Output jacks. I've tried two sets of headphones. One headphone
> has a built-in stereo mini-jack input connector. The other headphone
> has an adapter (1/4" stereo -> stereo mini-jack). Both headphones work
> in other stereo devices. Also, I only get the left channel thru my
> headphones when I plug into my stereo thru the Rockman Aux Input to
> listen to music while playing my guitar. So I think I've isolated the
> problem to the Phone/Output jacks. NOTE: I CAN get stereo (both
> channels) thru the headphones if I pull the headphone mini-jack
> connector about half-way out of the Rockman Phone/Output jack(s). But
> I have to get the connector in just the right spot (it won't lock) to
> keep the stereo signal. Am I doing something wrong? I thought the
> Rockman Phone/Output jacks accepted stereo headphone connectors? I
> know the Rockman X100's have a history of problems with loose Phone/
> Output jacks... But these jacks seem rock solid compared to other
> Rockman's I've played thru. It's been awhile since I played thru one
> though, so I thought I was maybe missing something simple. Thanks!
>
>

Those connectors were cheap as hell - and soldered to boards. The one in
my XPR broke too. Who the F puts a mini jack on gear???

Anyway, the reason you *think* you're getting both channels when you have
the connector halfway out is because you're spreading the one channel
across both leads...

If you can - fix the connector. It's going to be tight in there.

Re: Rockman X100 Phone/Output question

On Mar 11, 3:02 pm, The Chris <cab...@nospam.hotmail . com > wrote:
> "obcbeatle" <obcbea...@yahoo . com > wrote in news:1173631656.301837.324630
> @q40g2000cwq.googlegroups . com :

> Anyway, the reason you *think* you're getting both channels when you have
> the connector halfway out is because you're spreading the one channel
> across both leads...

Thanks for the reply. I found a pair of computer headphones (stereo
mini-jack) that have a "stereo/mono" switch on them. When I swith to
"mono" I get a stereo signal from the Rockman. Switch to "stereo" and
I get left channel only. Weird. The headphone mini-jack connector is
all the way in though, so I THINK I'm getting a true stereo signal, as
opposed to the one channel spread you indicate above. I guess tonight
I'll try to send a stereo signal from the Rockman output to my 4-track
tape deck and see if I get a stereo signal to tape. Thanks again for
the reply.

Re: Rockman X100 Phone/Output question

"obcbeatle" <obcbeatle@yahoo . com > wrote in
news:1173743959.952340.131800@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups . com :

> On Mar 11, 3:02 pm, The Chris <cab...@nospam.hotmail . com > wrote:
>> "obcbeatle" <obcbea...@yahoo . com > wrote in
>> news:1173631656.301837.324630 @q40g2000cwq.googlegroups . com :
>
>> Anyway, the reason you *think* you're getting both channels when you
>> have the connector halfway out is because you're spreading the one
>> channel across both leads...
>
> Thanks for the reply. I found a pair of computer headphones (stereo
> mini-jack) that have a "stereo/mono" switch on them. When I swith to
> "mono" I get a stereo signal from the Rockman. Switch to "stereo" and
> I get left channel only. Weird. The headphone mini-jack connector is
> all the way in though, so I THINK I'm getting a true stereo signal, as
> opposed to the one channel spread you indicate above. I guess tonight
> I'll try to send a stereo signal from the Rockman output to my 4-track
> tape deck and see if I get a stereo signal to tape. Thanks again for
> the reply.
>
>

I'm telling you - you're getting one side. Those things had remarkable
stereo imagery - you'd know if you were hearing stereo.

Don't confuse 'stereo' with 'dual mono'....

Like I said, I had an XPR with the same crappy headphone jack... They
just break in there...

Doesn't the X100 have two outputs (2 sets of headphones??) or was that
some other model, like the soloist?

Re: Rockman X100 Phone/Output question

On 13 Mar 2007 02:42:29 GMT, The Chris <cabell@nospam.hotmail . com > wrote:

>"obcbeatle" <obcbeatle@yahoo . com > wrote in
>news:1173743959.952340.131800@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups . com :
>
>> On Mar 11, 3:02 pm, The Chris <cab...@nospam.hotmail . com > wrote:
>>> "obcbeatle" <obcbea...@yahoo . com > wrote in
>>> news:1173631656.301837.324630 @q40g2000cwq.googlegroups . com :
>>
>>> Anyway, the reason you *think* you're getting both channels when you
>>> have the connector halfway out is because you're spreading the one
>>> channel across both leads...
>>
>> Thanks for the reply. I found a pair of computer headphones (stereo
>> mini-jack) that have a "stereo/mono" switch on them. When I swith to
>> "mono" I get a stereo signal from the Rockman. Switch to "stereo" and
>> I get left channel only. Weird. The headphone mini-jack connector is
>> all the way in though, so I THINK I'm getting a true stereo signal, as
>> opposed to the one channel spread you indicate above. I guess tonight
>> I'll try to send a stereo signal from the Rockman output to my 4-track
>> tape deck and see if I get a stereo signal to tape. Thanks again for
>> the reply.
>>
>>
>
>I'm telling you - you're getting one side. Those things had remarkable
>stereo imagery - you'd know if you were hearing stereo.
>
>Don't confuse 'stereo' with 'dual mono'....
>
>Like I said, I had an XPR with the same crappy headphone jack... They
>just break in there...
>
>Doesn't the X100 have two outputs (2 sets of headphones??) or was that
>some other model, like the soloist?

My original issue Rockman has two headphone jacks. And, yes, stereo is very
obvious.

There's a lot of stuff packed into those boxes and they do break from time to
time. Those jacks are a bit of a weak spot.

Ron

Effect pedal demo's up at * w w w .soundclick . com /ronsonicpedalry

Re: Rockman X100 Phone/Output question

On Mar 12, 10:42 pm, The Chris <cab...@nospam.hotmail . com > wrote:
> "obcbeatle" <obcbea...@yahoo . com > wrote innews:1173743959.952340.131800@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups . com :

> Doesn't the X100 have two outputs (2 sets of headphones??) or was that
> some other model, like the soloist?

Yes. Both outputs behave the same. That's why I initially thought I
was doing something wrong. Seems now like it might be something else
on the PCB. Both connectors seem soldered tight. I guess I can open
it up and look, but I may just try to return it. I agree that I
should be wowed by the stereo sound since I owned a Rockman X100 many
years ago, and it sounded awesom. But then I had the original
headphones which colored the sound. This one sounds very good, but
I'm not wowed. I think that's because the outputs are not sending a
true stereo signal. Thanks again for the replies.

Re: Rockman X100 Phone/Output question

"obcbeatle" <obcbeatle@yahoo . com > wrote in
news:1173829696.667133.21130@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups . com :

> On Mar 12, 10:42 pm, The Chris <cab...@nospam.hotmail . com > wrote:
>> "obcbeatle" <obcbea...@yahoo . com > wrote
>> innews:1173743959.952340.131800@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups . com :
>
>> Doesn't the X100 have two outputs (2 sets of headphones??) or was
>> that some other model, like the soloist?
>
> Yes. Both outputs behave the same. That's why I initially thought I
> was doing something wrong. Seems now like it might be something else
> on the PCB. Both connectors seem soldered tight. I guess I can open
> it up and look, but I may just try to return it. I agree that I
> should be wowed by the stereo sound since I owned a Rockman X100 many
> years ago, and it sounded awesom. But then I had the original
> headphones which colored the sound. This one sounds very good, but
> I'm not wowed. I think that's because the outputs are not sending a
> true stereo signal. Thanks again for the replies.
>
>

Both outputs are only giving you one side?? And the headphones are good?

Well, that does sound like something worse...

By all means, if you can return it... do it...